Re: [CTRL] The Hiram Key

2002-09-29 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- There are at least 56 used copies of the Hiram Key available from one used book source on the net, some as low as $7. The secret is secret no more. Christians didn't buy the idea. Jews didn't buy the idea. Religious academics didn't either. Probably it sold well to those who liked

[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] Thousands, Hundreds of Thousands, or Millions of Demonstrators?

2002-09-29 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

[CTRL] Fwd: Unfinished Recession

2002-09-29 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

[CTRL] Fw: Latest from Pilger

2002-09-29 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Mermaid To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 1:10 AM Subject: Latest from Pilger MARCH FOR DEMOCRACY John Pilger on why we should take to the streets and demand that a great crime is not

[CTRL] Fw: the truth comes out

2002-09-29 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Mermaid To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: the truth comes out The Smallpox Vaccine And HHV-6http://www.rense.com/general29/smallpoxHHV6.htmThe Smallpox Vaccine And HHV-6By Charles Ortleb9-27-2On

[CTRL] Fw: [RMNEWS2] Electronic tagging for Alzheimer's pateints

2002-09-29 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- First the babies get tagged 2 years ago then the children in case they go missing and now the elderly! Now I wonder who is next it will certainly make it easier to round up the sheeple to put in their concentration camps. If they have been chipping by vaccination in the young

[CTRL] The War Party's imperial plans by Patrick J. Buchanan

2002-09-29 Thread lloyd
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related New Paradigms Posts at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html Subject: The War Party's imperial plans by

[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: With Court Nod, Parents Debate School Drug Tests

2002-09-29 Thread Tenor Love
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Court Nod, Parents Debate School Drug Tests September 29, 2002 By TAMAR LEWIN NEW BUFFALO, Mich. - In this serene lakeside town, a group has gathered at the high school each week since August

[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: As Security Cameras Sprout, Someone's Always Watching

2002-09-29 Thread Tenor Love
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Security Cameras Sprout, Someone's Always Watching September 29, 2002 By DEAN E. MURPHY PORTERVILLE, Calif., Sept. 27 - This is the kind of place, small and out of the way, where people keep

[CTRL] Diplomacy prepares the way for war

2002-09-29 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- Along with suitably found Uranium on the way to Iraq and other operations, giving proper justification... ... Diplomacy prepares the way for war By Alan Woods The law is like a spider's web: the small are caught, and the great tear it up. (Solon of Athens) On September 16,

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/28/2002 8:52:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good point. Christians ( whose first allegiance is to Christ) are Christians first and Americans second. Does that make them disloyal Americans? JR Perhaps not, but in what case should we

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Another point of view -Caveat Lector- Prudy - She did not say anything about Israel, she said something about being Jewish. More importantly, you persist in this lie that Israel only allows Jews. (Since there is no country that allows only Christians... I can't find an

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Another point of view -Caveat Lector- Er.. That should read there are plenty of non-Jews in Israel, obviously.. Teach me to type before I consume caffeine. on 9/29/02 10:05 AM, thew at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Prudy - She did not say anything about

Re: [CTRL] Israelis Kill Baby for Violating Curfew

2002-09-29 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Oppressors often pay a horrible price for their oppression. flw So the ends justify the means? If that isn't the simplest description of evil, I don't know what is. yeah, he's a vicious amoral murderer, but he's our vicious amoral murderer Your point makes no sense. Only

Re: [CTRL] Israelis Kill Baby for Violating Curfew

2002-09-29 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Blowing up children on school buses is NOT fighting back against an oppressor. It is killing innocents. ( can you show me an example where the Warsaw uprising targeted German civilians? (seeing as it was in Poland , pretty much all the Germans there were military personnel- no?

[CTRL] Byrd Reveals US Shipments of Biological Weapons to Iraq

2002-09-29 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 10:18:23 -0400 From: t r u t h o u t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: t r u t h o u t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Byrd Reveals US Shipments of Biological Weapons to Iraq 09/30/02 t r u t h o u t |

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Prudy, you do read a lot into a few words. Jews have been moving in and out of Israel for many, many years now. She didn't say she was joining the army did she? Almost all people need a sense of community. Here in the US there is a sense of Christian culture, not only in the

Re: [CTRL] Israelis Kill Baby for Violating Curfew

2002-09-29 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- But you didn't answer my question ( the one that encompasses my senseless point) - do you believe in that sort of ends justify the means philosophy of action? Your question is childish. What I think or don't think is irrelevant. What is relevant is this basic reality. When a

[CTRL] Fwd: HoffmanWire: War with Iraq Threatens Afghanistan

2002-09-29 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- 9/28/02 7:52:04 PM, Jim Rarey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Good point. Christians ( whose first allegiance is to Christ) are Christians first and Americans second. Does that make them disloyal Americans? The point IS that without being an American

[CTRL] Time To Look For A Pornographic Link ...

2002-09-29 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=6987 Time To Look For A Pornographic Link Posted By: Patriotlad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, 18 February 2001, 5:06 p.m. In Response To: Car Found in Dartmouth Professors' Deaths (hobie) Precisely one year ago today,

[CTRL] Grams not Kilos

2002-09-29 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=214088contrassID= 1subContrassID=8sbSubContrassID=0listSrc=Y w w w . h a a r e t z d a i l y . c o m Refined uranium found in Turkey weighs grams, not kilograms The refined uranium caught by Turkish police

Re: [CTRL] Israelis Kill Baby for Violating Curfew

2002-09-29 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- I guess an intelligent conversation is impossible with you, yet I keep trying. What you think is the ONLY thing relevant in terms of this conversation. It's the whole point of having conversations. Nowhere did I defend colonial rule. Nowhere did I say Israel has carte blanche

Re: [CTRL] Time To Look For A Pornographic Link ...

2002-09-29 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Quick question: What does ANY of this have to do with the Clintons, and if nothing, why are they mentioned at the top of the article as if it were germane? on 9/29/02 1:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector-

[CTRL] HOORAY for sane Israelis

2002-09-29 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- education is the way forward these guys should recieve a commendation for speaking out! The Mermaid Urgent Cry to World From Israeli AcademicsURGENT WARNING: THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT MAY BE CONTEMPLAING CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. We, members of Israeli academe, are horrified

[CTRL] Spying in Iraq: From Fact to Allegation

2002-09-29 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.fair.org/activism/unscom-history.html FAIR Fairness Accuracy In Reporting 112 W. 27th Street New York, NY 10001 ACTION ALERT: Spying in Iraq: From Fact to Allegation September 24, 2002 Nothing makes a newspaper prouder than a juicy foreign-policy scoop.

[CTRL] you reap what you sow

2002-09-29 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- (*Editors Note | (1) Senator Robert Byrd has torn the lid off some of the darkest and nastiest secrets of the Reagan/Bush I years, and he did so standing in the well of the Senate. Consider well what you read below, and understand: Our entanglements with Iraq, most

[CTRL] War tax likely (news.com.au report)

2002-09-29 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Euphorian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has suggested you might be interested in the following http://news.com.au article: Iraq war tax likely 28 September 2002 A SPECIAL Iraq war tax is likely if Australia goes to war. The full story is available at:

[CTRL] Fwd: 100 countries building cyber weapons

2002-09-29 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- --- Start of forwarded message --- From http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/27265.html Hot linques @ site http://worldfactsandfigures.com/internet_users.htm At least 100 countries building cyber weapons - expert By John Lettice Posted: 24/09/2002 at 10:09 GMT

[CTRL] For your attention

2002-09-29 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Euphorian spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited Observer site and thought you should see it. To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited Observer site, go to http://www.observer.co.uk 'Bullied' opponents stand up to Bush's challenge Democrats break

[CTRL] For your attention

2002-09-29 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Euphorian spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited Observer site and thought you should see it. To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited Observer site, go to http://www.observer.co.uk Fleet Street goes topsy-turvy after dossier skirmish Can war be

[CTRL] MSNBC News Link: A War Waiting for a Pretext

2002-09-29 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Euphorian sent you this MSNBC News Link: ** A War Waiting for a Pretext ** A Persian Gulf War POW accuses the United States and Britain of being hypocritical about Saddam http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_email.asp?/news/814085.asp

[CTRL] BUSH'S PREEMPTIVE WAR IS ILLEGAL: Attorneys speak out

2002-09-29 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- GEORGE BUSH PLANS HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS: Why We Are Marching on October 26th By Carl Messineo and Mara Verheyden-Hilliard [The authors, attorneys and co-founders of the Partnership for Civil Justice - LDEF, are members of the national steering committee of the

[CTRL] Saddam Connection -- West Nile Virus the First Bioweapon?

2002-09-29 Thread lloyd
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related New Paradigms Posts at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html Subject: Saddam Connection -- West Nile

[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Kris Milligan as Guest on A Closer Look

2002-09-29 Thread Michael Corbin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Michael Corbin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:47 PM Subject: [CTRL] Kris Milligan as Guest on A Closer Look -Caveat Lector- The nationally-syndicated and webcast talk radioprogram, A Closer Look will

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/29/2002 10:06:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She did not say anything about Israel, she said something about being Jewish. She said when some journalist asked her why they were emigrating to Israel to live in a settlement since they

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/29/2002 10:13:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Er.. That should read there are plenty of non-Jews in Israel, obviously.. Teach me to type before I consume caffeine. I understood what you meant. There are non-Jews in Israel, but

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/29/2002 11:27:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Prudy, you do read a lot into a few words. Jews have been moving in and out of Israel for many, many years now. She didn't say she was joining the army did she? It was her word and

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- It's an interesting idea that one's government allows one to follow a particular religion. This assumes the government is a paternal body and not of the people and by the people who make it up. Well, maybe that's what we have in reality now in the US, but that's not the way it

Re: [CTRL] Another point of view

2002-09-29 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Prudy says: Most of the people I have known who lived or worked in other Middle Eastern countries liked it just fine. Yes Prudy, all of those thriving Christian and Jewish communities are where in the Middle East? From Palestinefacts.org Islam remains intolerant of any other

[CTRL] The John Birch Society - A Puppet Of the Mormon Church

2002-09-29 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- (Regardless, I find their magazine NEW AMERICAN to be essential - Bill) http://www.friendsofliberty.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=171 The John Birch Society - A Puppet Of the Mormon Church By Dennis A. Wright Recently some information has been passed along to this

[CTRL] clergy abuse, convent slave labor, abusers experienced trauma

2002-09-29 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors Retired Priest Taken Into Custody - Los Angeles (AP) - "...was arrested Friday in Alaska while on a world cruise...Rucker is among four Southern California priests arrested this week in the first criminal cases brought in Los Angeles and

[CTRL] Reptilian queens, UFOs, a cancer cure: Strange New Mexico case gets under way

2002-09-29 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ct/20020926/cr_ct/reptilian_que ens__ufos__a_cancer_cure__strange_new_mexico_case_gets_under_way Reptilian queens, UFOs, a cancer cure: Strange New Mexico case gets under way Thu Sep 26, 6:50 PM ET By John Springer, Court TV

[CTRL] Wake-Up America Slideshow

2002-09-29 Thread iNFoWaRZ
-Caveat Lector- Wake Up America Slideshow http://www.wakeup-amerika.info/ Note: Your browser javascripting must be on for the slideshow to work. - -iNFoWaRZ One by one, Conservative patriotic Americans are waking up to the truth that our government, and both Democrat and