On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 2:47 AM Teemu Likonen wrote:
> * 2023-06-08 19:32:13-0400, Timothy M. Butterworth wrote:
>
> > I have a 2012 MacBook Pro that I am going to install Debian Bookworm on.
> I
> > will not be keeping OSX on the Mac as it is no longer supported for
> > updates. Does anyone have
On 2023-06-12, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> Typically, when Debian installs a GUI environment (GNOME, XFCE4, etc.),
> it also installs lightdm or some other X session manager. This takes up
> memory, and isn't something I really need (as far as I know). Instead,
> I'm perfectly happy to have
Le 12-06-2023, à 21:25:40 +0200, Michel Verdier a écrit :
On 2023-06-11, steve wrote:
After a few days with this configuration, same errors are still present.
I guess I'll have either to reinstall or go the postfix way.
Just to be sure before you reinstall can you provide
exim -bP | grep
Hello,
Recebi mais de 100 updates hoje no testing. Agora eles removeram o bloqueio.
Leandro
David Wright wrote:
...
> That's just plain wrong. What was added to bookworm,
> the current stable release, on Release Day was a an
> official number (12 in this instance). Please stop
> trying to sow confusion about codenames.
ok.
songbird
David Wright wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
> I can't understand that paragraph. Too many "this", "that"
> and "it"s to know what refers to what.
haha, that's ok, just let it go.
>> release notes may not be written and some cases may
>> even be forgotten about.
>
> Which release doesn't have
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 03:59:40PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> Folks:
>
> Typically, when Debian installs a GUI environment (GNOME, XFCE4, etc.),
> it also installs lightdm or some other X session manager.
Nitpick: xdm is the X display manager. The X session is something completely
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:53:03PM +0200, Smits Katze wrote:
> >What would be the difference to simply saying
> >
> > sudo -i
>
> The effect should be the same (and the command is more concise).
>
> Thanks for pointing it out.
Thank you for confirmation & sorry for the nitpick :)
Cheers
--
t
> Using "stable" in your sources.list is idiotic, and you should not do
> it. Ever.
I guess I'm an idiot, then.
I find it quite convenient because it says exactly what I want: I want
those machines to run Debian stable, whichever version that "stable"
happens to be at any particular time.
On 2023-06-12 at 18:55, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:18:15 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-06-11 at 17:36, David Wright wrote:
>>> There are several sources:
>
> [ snipped the back and forth ]
>
> I'm sorry, but I just can't take seriously your not being acquainted
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:23:02 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > songbird wrote:
> ...
> >> except that is a misconception for those who are running
> >> testing. we're not upgrading to a new release.
> >
> > I don't understand. Suite testing was codenamed bookworm until today,
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 09:46:49 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 09:34, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:20:41AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-11 at 09:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> >>> Using "stable" in your sources.list is idiotic, and you should
>
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:18:15 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 17:36, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 09:32:04 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-11 at 09:05, David Wright wrote:
>
> >>> It would seem very simple, the first time this happens, to
> >>>
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:06:02 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> ...
> > The overwhelming majority of people who track testing think that it's
> > a rolling release. It's not. It's actually a series of evolving
> > release candidates, with periods of great disruption interspersed
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:35:13PM +, bw wrote:
> Right now I'm studying and trying to come up with a way to identify duplicate
> filenames and/or symlinks between /bin /sbin /lib, and /usr/bin /usr/sbin
> /usr/lib. I bet someone on the list could do it in a one line command.
Well, it's not
On 2023-06-12 at 17:47, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 13/6/23 04:52, The Wanderer wrote:
>> I have to apologize; I completely misremembered the name of the program
>> that I was referencing, probably because of the filenames I store its
>> output under. hwinfo is absolutely not it. I would not consider
On 13/6/23 04:52, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2023-06-12 at 16:45, Bret Busby wrote:
On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote:
I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
command line. The information needed is :-
Total RAM stored
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 1:33 PM Leo Marín wrote:
>
>
>
> El lun, 12 jun 2023 a las 13:33, Camaleón () escribió:
>>
>> El 2023-06-12 a las 11:37 -0400, Leo Marín escribió:
>>
>> > Saludos lista,
>> >
>> > pregunta random para no abrir otro hilo,
>> > cambiaron el sourcelist? porque actualizo y veo
for "mouse" read "trackpad" except when referring to external mouse
in-reply-to=
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 11:24:00AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led
> to an hard-to-fix situation
...
>>Well, that's somewhat terrifying. I looked at bugs.debian.org/usrmerge
>>and didn't see any bugs like this
On 2023-06-11 18:43, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 6/11/23 10:23, mick.crane wrote:
On 2023-06-11 17:53, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On June 11, 2023 9:05:13 AM "mick.crane"
wrote:
Somebody gave me a Toshiba satellite laptop with the identifying
number
C50-A-19T
I think this is what is called a
El 12/6/23 a las 15:37, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
El 10/6/23 a las 07:20, riveravaldez escribió:
On Friday, June 2, 2023, Juan carlos Rebate wrote:
> (...), en cuanto al SO si eres algo avispado bajas el aosp bajas el
kernel para el teléfono que tengas y lo compilas así te libras de
Brad McDonald wrote:
> IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies
> and dependant packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For
> example 3 nights ago I installed all the "electrical" by first the named
> folder then the dependencies then the dependant
On 6/12/23 20:44, Brad McDonald wrote:
IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies and dependant
packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For example 3 nights ago I installed
all the "electrical" by first the named folder then the dependencies then the
Mick Ab wrote:
> I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of the
> information returned is not reliable.
You keep saying that, but have you got any evidence of it? And
if so, it is the unreliability of omission or making things up,
or being random in the returned data?
IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies
and dependant packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For
example 3 nights ago I installed all the "electrical" by first the named
folder then the dependencies then the dependant packages.The following 2
nights I
On 2023-06-12 at 16:45, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote:
>>
>>> I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
>>> command line. The information needed is :-
>>>
>>> Total RAM stored
>>> Number of
On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote:
I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
command line. The information needed is :-
Total RAM stored
Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick
Type of RAM e.g. DDR4
Speed of
Roger Price composed on 2023-06-12 22:25 (UTC+0200):
> According to man inxi the command "inxi -mxx" tries to improve on dmidecode.
h2 on irc://irc.oftc.net/smxi (IRC) is inxi's creator. 3.3.27-00 is the current
version, released on 2023-05-07. The devel version is named pinxi, currently at
On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote:
> I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
> command line. The information needed is :-
>
> Total RAM stored
> Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick
> Type of RAM e.g. DDR4
> Speed of RAM e.g. 3200 MHz
>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, Mick Ab wrote:
I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of the
information returned is not reliable.
Is there any command that will reliably give the required RAM information ?
According to man inxi the command "inxi -mxx" tries to improve on
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 21:06:06 +0100
Mick Ab wrote:
> I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of
> the information returned is not reliable.
>
> Is there any command that will reliably give the required RAM
> information ?
Any tool, dmidecode included, is no better than
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 03:59:40PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> I'm perfectly happy to have Debian give me a console login prompt, and
> then I issue startx.
That's what I use too. As well as several other people who post regularly
on this mailing list.
Folks:
Typically, when Debian installs a GUI environment (GNOME, XFCE4, etc.),
it also installs lightdm or some other X session manager. This takes up
memory, and isn't something I really need (as far as I know). Instead,
I'm perfectly happy to have Debian give me a console login prompt, and
then
>What would be the difference to simply saying
>
> sudo -i
The effect should be the same (and the command is more concise).
Thanks for pointing it out.
--
PGP: FF815935D964B268656B43DCB8037830D522909E
I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
command line. The information needed is :-
Total RAM stored
Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick
Type of RAM e.g. DDR4
Speed of RAM e.g. 3200 MHz
Manufacturer and model number of RAM
I have seen the
Le Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 08:54:45PM +0200, Erwan David a écrit :
> Le 12/06/2023 à 19:59, Marc Chantreux a écrit :
> Avec 30 machines (voire quelques centaines)
> 1) tu passes par de l'automatisation
oui …
> (salt, ansible, puppet, etc.) qui va
> pousser un sources.list (et pas le modifier)
El lun, 12 jun 2023 a las 13:33, Camaleón () escribió:
> El 2023-06-12 a las 11:37 -0400, Leo Marín escribió:
>
> > Saludos lista,
> >
> > pregunta random para no abrir otro hilo,
> > cambiaron el sourcelist? porque actualizo y veo esto; E: Repository '
> >
On 2023-06-11, steve wrote:
>>> After a few days with this configuration, same errors are still present.
>>>
>>> I guess I'll have either to reinstall or go the postfix way.
>>
>>Just to be sure before you reinstall can you provide
>>exim -bP | grep syslog
>
> syslog_duplication
Docs indicate it
El lun, 12 jun 2023 a las 13:20, Gerardo Braica ()
escribió:
> Como va? El mio esta funcionando asi:
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main
> contrib non-free-firmware
>
si así es como me funcionó, cambiando testing por trixie, en mi caso
>
>
>
> El 12/6/23 a
Le 12/06/2023 à 19:59, Marc Chantreux a écrit :
Le Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 07:37:45PM +0200, Erwan David a écrit :
J'aurais plutôt fait
sudo sed -i.bak 's/bullseye/bookworm/' /etc/apt/sources.list
tu pars du principe que c'est bullseye tout le temps et pas stable de
temps en temps.
Mais ça
Oi,
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 9:30 AM Rafael de Almeida wrote:
>
> Entendo quando a um lançamento o untable se torna testing... Então estava
> pensando que seria da mesma forma quando o Debian stable foi lançando,
> automaticamente o Debian unstable se tornaria testing. (Sempre gosto de usar
>
El 10/6/23 a las 07:20, riveravaldez escribió:
On Friday, June 2, 2023, Juan carlos Rebate wrote:
> (...), en cuanto al SO si eres algo avispado bajas el aosp bajas el
kernel para el teléfono que tengas y lo compilas así te libras de
google, y la app del banco la bajas de algún repositorio
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 06:54:40PM +0200, Smits Katze wrote:
> Debian wiki describes how to configure a read-only rootfs and how to
> run apt and unattended-upgrades in such a filesystem:
> https://wiki.debian.org/ReadonlyRoot
>
> I would like to report that I am having considerable success with
Le Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 07:44:55PM +0200, Lamourec Alain a écrit :
> > J'aurais plutôt fait
> >
> > sudo sed -i.bak 's/bullseye/bookworm/' /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> Oui mais il faut rajouter non-free-firmware comme dans le modèle de marc ou
> alors s'en passer
ah oui! exact :) merci.
marc
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 5:48 AM Bastien Durel
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led
> to an hard-to-fix situation
>
> Paramétrage de usrmerge (35) ...
>
> FATAL ERROR:
> Both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 and
>
Le Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 07:43:51PM +0200, Frederic Zulian a écrit :
> Euh, je ne comprends pas. Pourquoi mettre les sources d'unstable ?
* quand je m'intéresse à des sources, c'est en général les plus récents
* dans les cas simples, ca permet de faire un backport vite fait avec
apt source +
Le Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 07:37:45PM +0200, Erwan David a écrit :
> J'aurais plutôt fait
>
> sudo sed -i.bak 's/bullseye/bookworm/' /etc/apt/sources.list
tu pars du principe que c'est bullseye tout le temps et pas stable de
temps en temps.
> Mais ça reste un peu tordu d ene pas vouloir utiliser
On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 21:05:32 +0200
CL wrote:
...
> Only topic was the restart of the Nextcloud. They don't wanted the
> standard PHP 8.2.
> Solution was a downgrade to PHP8.0
That's unusual - Debian Stable having too *recent* software :|
FWIW, I upgraded my Debian Stable Nextcloud (26.02
Erwan David writes:
Le 12/06/2023 à 19:33, Marc Chantreux a écrit :
Le Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 05:17:41PM +, Simeone Dominique a
écrit :
Chers amis,
comment ajouter à sources.list la nouvelle deb de Bookworm
sans vim et en ligne de commande direct!
Tout dépend de ce que tu avais
Euh, je ne comprends pas. Pourquoi mettre les sources d'unstable ?
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
non-free-firmware
Frédéric ZULIAN
Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 19:38, Erwan David a écrit :
> Le 12/06/2023 à 19:33, Marc Chantreux a écrit :
> > Le Mon, Jun
Le 12/06/2023 à 19:33, Marc Chantreux a écrit :
Le Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 05:17:41PM +, Simeone Dominique a écrit :
Chers amis,
comment ajouter à sources.list la nouvelle deb de Bookworm sans vim et en ligne
de commande direct!
Tout dépend de ce que tu avais précédement et de ce que tu veux
Le Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 05:17:41PM +, Simeone Dominique a écrit :
> Chers amis,
> comment ajouter à sources.list la nouvelle deb de Bookworm sans vim et en
> ligne de commande direct!
Tout dépend de ce que tu avais précédement et de ce que tu veux
conserver. Il faut aussi surveiller ce que
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 18:02:13 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Mon 12 Jun 2023 at 08:50:54 -0400, Celejar wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:31:31 -0400
> > Dan Ritter wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
> > > bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.
>
El 2023-06-12 a las 11:37 -0400, Leo Marín escribió:
> Saludos lista,
>
> pregunta random para no abrir otro hilo,
> cambiaron el sourcelist? porque actualizo y veo esto; E: Repository '
> http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing-security InRelease'
> changed its 'Codename' value from
On 6/12/23 19:17, Simeone Dominique wrote:
Chers amis,
comment ajouter à sources.list la nouvelle deb de Bookworm sans vim et
en ligne de commande direct!
Bien à vous.
Mr.Dominique Simeone
On n'ajoute pas. On remplace. Si la commande à considérer est sed ou ed,
sur le fichier
Como va? El mio esta funcionando asi:
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main
contrib non-free-firmware
El 12/6/23 a las 12:37, Leo Marín escribió:
Saludos lista,
pregunta random para no abrir otro hilo,
cambiaron el sourcelist? porque actualizo y veo esto;
Chers amis,
comment ajouter à sources.list la nouvelle deb de Bookworm sans vim et en ligne
de commande direct!
Bien à vous.
Mr.Dominique Simeone
Le lundi 12 juin 2023 à 2:30 PM, Francois Mescam a écrit :
> Je constate que le paquet libreoffice recommande le paquet
> libreoffice-java-common donc si lors de l'installation de libreoffice il n'a
> pas été choisi d'installer libreoffice-java-common c'est normal qu'il ne soit
> pas
Debian wiki describes how to configure a read-only rootfs and how to
run apt and unattended-upgrades in such a filesystem:
https://wiki.debian.org/ReadonlyRoot
I would like to report that I am having considerable success with the
following simple command sequence:
sudo su -l
unshare -m
# in the
On 2023-06-12 06:32 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:27:11PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Nice try. However, this isn't allowed, as it would apparently remove
>> libcrypt1:i386, which is apparently a "system-critical" package. I'm
>> not sure how
On Mon 12 Jun 2023 at 08:50:54 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:31:31 -0400
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> >
> > The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
> > bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.
>
> ...
>
> > I read the release notes.
> >
> > Changed
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 08:50:54 -0400
Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:31:31 -0400
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> >
> > The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
> > bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.
>
> ...
>
> > I read the release notes.
> >
> > Changed
On 2023-06-12 10:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:45:15AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> I think I might try grabbing an older-than-buster version of debootstrap
>> out of snapshot.debian.org and see if I can manage to reproduce something.
>> But don't count on my
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 12:26:35PM +0200, the2nd wrote:
> i am developing an open source OTP authentication server and currently
> searching for someone to test it. I hope its okay to ask for this on this
> list.
>
> There is no documentation yet but i can write a step by step guide if
> someone
Saludos lista,
pregunta random para no abrir otro hilo,
cambiaron el sourcelist? porque actualizo y veo esto; E: Repository '
http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing-security InRelease'
changed its 'Codename' value from 'bookworm-security' to 'trixie-security'
tiene 2 o 3 dias asi, no
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:45:15AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I think I might try grabbing an older-than-buster version of debootstrap
> out of snapshot.debian.org and see if I can manage to reproduce something.
> But don't count on my success.
I've succeeded in *partially* reproducing this
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 11:24:00AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
>
> During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led
> to an hard-to-fix situation
>
> Paramétrage de usrmerge (35) ...
>
> FATAL ERROR:
> Both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 and
>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 08:50:54 -0400
Celejar wrote:
> This is the part that always stresses me out; I often have changes in
> the default config files that I don't want to lose, but I'm also
> worried about not getting the latest versions of the config files. I
> usually try to accept the new
On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:31:31 -0400
Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
> bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.
...
> I read the release notes.
>
> Changed sources.list entries.
>
> Ran apt update.
>
> I ran apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs
Bienvenido a debían 12 me dijo luego de probar instalar la imagen ISO
oficial de debian dvd pero todas las demás me dieron error a la hora de
instalar el sistema base.hasta ahorita todo bien
Je constate que le paquet libreoffice recommande le paquet
libreoffice-java-common donc si lors de l'installation de libreoffice il
n'a pas été choisi d'installer libreoffice-java-common c'est normal
qu'il ne soit pas installé.
De plus libreoffice-calc ne dépend pas de libreoffice-java-common
Entendo quando a um lançamento o untable se torna testing... Então estava
pensando que seria da mesma forma quando o Debian stable foi lançando,
automaticamente o Debian unstable se tornaria testing. (Sempre gosto de
usar a versão testing)
Em seg., 12 de jun. de 2023 04:25, Leandro Cunha
Bonjour à toutes et tous,
Je constate cette alerte quand je lance libreoffice
Warning: failed to launch javaldx - java may not function correctly
Il manque juste libreoffice-java-common et default-jre…
Quel intérêt de ne pas l’installer automatiquement en dépendance ?
Il faut lancer
Hi,
i am developing an open source OTP authentication server and currently
searching for someone to test it. I hope its okay to ask for this on
this list.
There is no documentation yet but i can write a step by step guide if
someone is interested in testing my project.
Installation
Hello,
During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led
to an hard-to-fix situation
Paramétrage de usrmerge (35) ...
FATAL ERROR:
Both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 and
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 exist.
You can try correcting the errors reported and
Anyone with an encrypted root partition should probably follow the
advice in the NEWS for cryptsetup from the last release (buster) which
at the time said.
On systems which do rely on the initramfs integration, one can mark
'cryptsetup-initramfs' as being manually installed (so APT never
Encontré un canal para hablar de manera más amigable que por correo, es un
chat IRC con la aplicación para dispositivos Android Revolution, soy de
Colombia y también está ubicado en Colombia; es oficial de Debian.
Este es el link para descargar la aplicación Revolution desde F-Droid:
Oi,
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 3:02 PM Lucas Castro wrote:
>
>
> Em 11/06/2023 13:36, Lucas Castro escreveu:
>
>
> Em 11/06/2023 11:38, Rafael de Almeida escreveu:
>
> Bom dia!
> O repositório do Debian Trixie ainda não foi atualizado? (testing)
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTrixie
>
> Acredito
On Sun, 2023-06-11 at 15:24 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM Tixy wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> > >
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 06:32:27 +0200
wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:27:11PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Nice try. However, this isn't allowed, as it would apparently remove
> > libcrypt1:i386, which is apparently a "system-critical" package. I'm
> > not sure how
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