Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

On 6/6/24 22:14, gene heskett wrote: In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's. one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use. Typing orca in a shell locks the shell wo any output, for several minutes but comes back to a prompt with a ctl-c,

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its bookworm!

On 6/5/24 08:21, gene heskett wrote:> But in asking how to get rid of [orca], the subject is always changed and I always get re-install instructions. Because that is the most practical and correct answer for your situation; especially given the disk access issues. AIUI assistive

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user%40lists.debian.org/msg779582.html Gene Heskett Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:14:03 -0800 > On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On 6/4/24 03:26, gene heskett wrote: How much longer till trixie is officially out??  What you are proposing sounds like

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

On 6/2/24 21:35, DdB wrote: Am 02.06.2024 um 02:41 schrieb DdB: Will share my findings, once i made more progress... Here is what i've got before utilizing it: datakanja@PBuster-NFox:/mnt/tmp$ cat test #!/bin/bash -e # testing usefulness of coprocess to control host and backup machine from

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

On 6/1/24 00:20, DdB wrote: Hello, for years have i been using a self-made backup script, that did mount a drive via USB, performed all kinds of plausibility checks, before actually backing up incrementally. Finally verifying success and logging the activities while kicking the ISB drive out.

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On 5/30/24 03:14, Roger Price wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/29/24 03:36, Roger Price wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/28/24 00:28, Roger Price wrote: I wired my place Cat5. A lot of work, and I regretted it.  I live in the hills behind

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On 5/29/24 03:36, Roger Price wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/28/24 00:28, Roger Price wrote: I wired my place Cat5. A lot of work, and I regretted it.  I live in the hills behind Nice, an area with a lot of lightning.  The overhead line to my place took a hit

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On 5/28/24 17:10, John Hasler wrote: David writes: AIUI in the USA for residential 120/240V single-phase three-wire service drops, electrical utilities either run all three phases along the distribution line or they run two phases. Running one phase and a neutral instead of two phases would

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On 5/28/24 12:47, gene heskett wrote: On 5/28/24 15:29, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Tuesday 28 May 2024 01:49:52 pm Paul M Foster wrote: I've never see a 3 phase in a house. Common in commercial/industrial, though. Residential installations (talking in the US here) typically involve *one*

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On 5/28/24 00:28, Roger Price wrote: I wired my place Cat5. A lot of work, and I regretted it.  I live in the hills behind Nice, an area with a lot of lightning.  The overhead line to my place took a hit and thanks to the Cat5 conductivity I lost equipment. If your electrical utility uses

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On 5/27/24 19:05, Paul M Foster wrote: I did some more research, and it looks like I must have misstated the problem. Let's assume I can't get in the attic and wire the place. Let's assume that I've got a wireless router/modem in, say, the garage. Let's say I have three rooms with devices I

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On 5/27/24 14:09, Paul M Foster wrote: Folks: At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My idea is to put a device which

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 5/3/24 04:26, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 10:04:01PM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: For off-site long-term offline archiving, no, I am not using RAID. Now, as I had to think a bit about ONLINE integrity, I found this comparison:

Re: realpath quoting

On 5/3/24 04:34, jeremy ardley wrote: On 3/5/24 19:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: I would suggest that if you need to use a debugger to track down a bug in your program, you should use filenames that don't require quoting when you set up your tests. 1970's style static test cases are not relevant

Re: realpath quoting

On 5/3/24 04:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 10:18:03PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: I am unable to find $'string' in the dash(1) man page (?). As I typically write "#!/bin/sh" shell scripts, writing such to deal with file names containing non-printing character

Re: realpath quoting

On 5/2/24 19:56, Max Nikulin wrote: On 03/05/2024 09:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: I still insist that this is a workaround that should *not*  be used to try to cancel out quoting bugs in one's shell scripts. There are still specific cases when quoting is necessary, e.g. ssh remote command +1

Re: realpath quoting

On 5/2/24 19:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 07:11:46PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: Perhaps Perl and the module String::ShellQuote ? 2024-05-02 18:50:28 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ touch "name with spaces" 2024-05-02 18:50:45 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ touch "name with\

Re: realpath quoting

On 5/2/24 15:59, jeremy ardley wrote: I have a need  to get the full path of a file that has spaces in its name to use as a program argument e.g. jeremy@client:~$ ls -l name\ with\ spaces -rw-r--r-- 1 jeremy jeremy 0 May  3 06:51 'name with spaces' jeremy@client:~$ realpath name\ with\ spaces

Re: Debian@IBMx3550

On 4/23/24 14:35, Greg wrote: Hi there, I got refurb IBM x3550 M3 7944 server and I'm a bit lost. Is there any Linux/Debian software (some gui would be nice) to monitor fan speed, temperatures, voltages, disks.. ? Thanks in advance for any help Greg If you installed the Xfce desktop,

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

On 4/23/24 09:02, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). The new drive is a Western Digital Red, WF40EFPX (4TB

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

On 4/22/24 21:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA).

Re: Strange New Installation Behavior

On 4/22/24 06:00, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running Bookworm and cleaned up a couple of files too many resulting in a messed up Xfce Desktop. I decided that this would be a good time to reinstall the Bullseye. I made a backup of my /home/comp directory using Deja-dup. I downloaded and

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

On 4/21/24 22:33, Charlie Gibbs wrote: I should probably be posting this to the Steam forums, but most of the denizens there are Windows people so I might be better off letting you Debian gurus have a go at it first. TL;DR: Copying an existing /home into a fresh Debian installation causes audio

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/14/24 05:29, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have a Dell Latitude E6520: 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.9 Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2024-04-14 04:34:40 dpchrist@laalaa

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/19/24 00:16, Florent Rougon wrote: Another thing: did you look into ~/.xsession-errors? (Sorry if this was already mentioned and I missed it.) Please see attached copy of ~/.xsession-errors, taken immediately after system restart and login. "nm-applet" does not appear in

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/18/24 09:46, Gareth Evans wrote: On Thu 18/04/2024 at 11:05, David Christensen wrote: Move aside the ~/.config/xfce4 directory: ... Restart -- screen with wallpaper alone. ... Hi David, Starting from Mate DE only and some old (bookworm) XFCE config files, if I: $ sudo apt install

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/18/24 07:28, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/04/2024 17:05, David Christensen wrote: $ mv .config/xfce4-20240418-180045/ .config/xfce4 Restart -- back to Xfce panel with no Network Manager. Try to create a new system user and log in. Is nm-applet present? Logging in using another previously

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/18/24 05:34, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/18/24 05:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts it doesn't have permission. 2024-04-18 02:24:20 root

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/17/24 12:07, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:41:24 -0700 David Christensen wrote: My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported. My instance of nm-applet does run, and I see this as part of the boot

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/17/24 19:41, Gareth Evans wrote: On Wed 17/04/2024 at 19:41, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote: On Wed 17/04/2024 at 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/24 08:56, Gareth Evans wrote: On 16 Apr 2024, at 00:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/15/24 09:21

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/17/24 13:56, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/17/24 15:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported. What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? And is its filesystem

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe

Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

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Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700 From: David Christensen To: Gareth Evans On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote: On Wed 17/04/2024 at 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/24

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

On 4/15/24 09:21, Gareth Evans wrote: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... Hi David, I can't speak for XFCE, but certainly for Mate there was a time when

Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

debian-user: I have a Dell Latitude E6520: 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.9 Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2024-04-14 04:34:40 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ dpkg-query -l xfce4 network-manager

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 4/12/24 08:14, piorunz wrote: On 10/04/2024 12:10, David Christensen wrote: Those sound like some compelling features. I believe the last time I tried Btrfs was Debian 9 (?).  I ran into problems because I did not do the required manual maintenance (rebalancing).  Does the Btrfs in Debian

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 4/10/24 08:49, Paul Leiber wrote: Am 10.04.2024 um 13:10 schrieb David Christensen: Does the Btrfs in Debian 11 or Debian 12 still require manual maintenance?  If so, what and how often? Scrub and balance are actions which have been recommended. I am using btrfsmaintenance scripts [1][2

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 4/9/24 17:08, piorunz wrote: On 02/04/2024 13:53, David Christensen wrote: Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding how to use magnetic hard disk drives, commodity x86 computers, and Debian for long-term data storage with ensured integrity? I use Btrfs, on all my systems

Re: Why LVM

On 4/8/24 16:54, Stefan Monnier wrote: If I have a hot-pluggable device (SD card, USB drive, hot-plug SATA/SAS drive and rack, etc.), can I put LVM on it such that when the device is connected to a Debian system with a graphical desktop (I use Xfce) an icon is displayed on the desktop that I can

Re: Why LVM

On 4/8/24 14:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: David Christensen [2024-04-08 11:28:04] wrote: Why LVM? Personally, I've been using LVM everywhere I can (i.e. everywhere except on my OpenWRT router, tho I've also used LVM there back when my router had an HDD. I also use LVM on my 2GB USB rescue image

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 4/8/24 13:04, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: Hello, On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 11:28:04AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: So, an ext4 file system on an LVM logical volume? Why LVM? Are you implementing redundancy (RAID)? Is your data larger than a single disk (concatenation/ JBOD)? Something else

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 4/8/24 02:38, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: For offline storage: On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 05:53:15AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding how to use magnetic hard disk drives, commodity x86 computers, and Debian for long-term data storage with ensured

Re: readonly installer, (SOLVED)

On 4/3/24 19:05, Stefan Monnier wrote: I have a 128 MB USB flash drive from back in the day that includes a write protect switch. There are few products today that offer that feature. Side note: AFAIK this "write protect switch" doesn't prevent writing. It just tells your card reader that

Re: Debian ISOs on USB stick

On 4/3/24 05:56, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i read from bytes 2085412 to 2085479: "Info rrmation Syste rm VolumeSYSTEM~" which is similar to the alterations of one of the USB sticks shown in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1056998#35 The web knows about a Microsoft

Re: readonly installer, (SOLVED)

On 4/3/24 08:16, David Wright wrote: On Tue 02 Apr 2024 at 05:54:06 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: On 4/1/24 11:35, DdB wrote: Am 01.04.2024 um 18:52 schrieb David Christensen: A bad USB flash drive would explain why you cannot boot the Debian installer.  Please buy a good quality USB 3.0

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 4/2/24 14:57, David Christensen wrote: AIUI neither LVM nor ext4 have data and metadata checksum and correction features.  But, it should be possible to achieve such by including dm-integrity (for checksumming) and some form of RAID (for correction) in the storage stack.  I need to explore

Re: Debian ISOs on USB stick, was: SOLVED

On 4/3/24 03:36, David Christensen wrote: On 4/3/24 00:30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: It's a relatively simple experiment to confirm that a USB flash drive with d-i changes after the first boot. This could still be    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi

Re: Debian ISOs on USB stick, was: SOLVED

On 4/3/24 00:30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: It's a relatively simple experiment to confirm that a USB flash drive with d-i changes after the first boot. This could still be https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1056998 where Lenovo BIOS and/or MS

Re: Debian ISOs on USB stick, was: SOLVED

On 4/2/24 08:56, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: the Debian installer modifies the contents of the USB flash drive when it runs. Do you mean inside the range of the ISO image or outside by creating a new partition ? songbird wrote: if it is an iso image copied

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 4/2/24 06:55, Stefan Monnier wrote: The most obvious alternative to ZFS on Debian would be Btrfs. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding Btrfs and data corruption bugs, concurrency, CMM level, PSP, etc.? If you're worried about such things, I'd think "the most obvious

Re: SOLVED

On 4/2/24 07:55, songbird wrote: David Christensen wrote: I thought about suggesting that in my last post, but did not want to complicate things. A key advantage of using a CD-R disc is that you can verify the disc contents and/or checksum against the ISO and/or checksum now and in the future

Re: SOLVED

On 4/1/24 11:35, DdB wrote: Am 01.04.2024 um 18:52 schrieb David Christensen: A bad USB flash drive would explain why you cannot boot the Debian installer.  Please buy a good quality USB 3.0+ flash drive and try again. A friend of mine just let me use an external CD-Drive with the netboot

HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

On 3/31/24 02:18, DdB wrote: > i intend to create a huge backup server from some oldish hardware. > Hardware has been partly refurbished and offers 1 SSD + 8 HDD on a > 6core Intel with 64 GB RAM. ... the [Debian] installer ... aborts. On 4/1/24 11:35, DdB wrote: > A friend of mine just let me

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

On 4/1/24 03:10, DdB wrote: Am 01.04.2024 um 07:44 schrieb David Christensen: Please post a console session that identifies the ISO you are using, verifies the checksum, burns the ISO to a USB flash drive, and compares the ISO against the flash drive. Ok, in the meantime, i came to similar

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

On 3/31/24 02:18, DdB wrote: Hello list, i intend to create a huge backup server from some oldish hardware. Hardware has been partly refurbished and offers 1 SSD + 8 HDD on a 6core Intel with 64 GB RAM. Already before assembling the hardware, grub was working from the SSD, which got lvm

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

On 3/30/24 08:17, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting a stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox? I worry about my stick security. Thanks. Linux knows what files are open on each file system. If you try to unmount

Re: Debian 12.5.0 amd64 and OpenZFS bug #15526

On 3/25/24 15:05, Gareth Evans wrote: On Fri 22/03/2024 at 21:01, Gareth Evans wrote: As anyone interested can see from the ref to #15933 in the below, there seems to have been considerable effort in getting to grips with this bug (actually multiple bugs), and it looks like a fix may be

Re: trying to parse lines from an awkwardly formatted HAR file ...

On 3/22/24 22:53, Albretch Mueller wrote: out of a HAR file containing lots of obfuscating js cr@p and all kinds of nonsense I was able to extract line looking like: var00='{\"index\":\"prod-h-006\",\"fields\":{\"identifier\":\"bub_gb_O2EAMAAJ\",\"title\":\"Die Wissenschaft vom subjectiven

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like … that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

On 3/4/24 16:06, David Wright wrote: On Mon 04 Mar 2024 at 12:36:54 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: On 3/4/24 08:37, Albretch Mueller wrote: _LINK="https://christuniversity.in/uploads/course/E_21-25_Lateral Entry(1)_20210618043317.pdf" I ignored the filename, and pa

Re: resolv.conf (was Re: electrons/the Internet [racism redacted])

On 3/4/24 13:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 12:36:54PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: I believe Debian rewrites /etc/resolv.conf on every boot. This is not correct. It's *partly* correct if you ignore a lot of complicating factors. Short version: read <ht

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?, or is it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

On 3/4/24 08:37, Albretch Mueller wrote: Yes, networking problems are infuriating. Something that shouldn't be happening at all is that after I use traceroute once, it doesn't work again and my Internet access speed describes like a sinus curve which amplitude remains for the most part

Re: Debian 12.5.0 amd64 and OpenZFS bug #15526

On 2/26/24 20:52, Gareth Evans wrote: Replied to OP by mistake, reposting to list. On Sun 25/02/2024 at 05:34, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: Is Debian 12.5.0 amd64 affected by OpenZFS bug #15526? https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-12.5.0-amd64

Debian 12.5.0 amd64 and OpenZFS bug #15526

debian-user: Is Debian 12.5.0 amd64 affected by OpenZFS bug #15526? https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/zfs-dkms https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15526 David

Re: Orphaned Inode Problem

On 2/21/24 03:00, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Hi, did you take a look at the smartctl output? Somewhere I read, for maintainance of an SSD all it's cells should be read from time to time like this sudo dd if=/dev/DEVICE of=/dev/null bs=8M status=progress where device is something like sda or

Re: HDD error: Current_Pending_Sector

On 2/20/24 09:51, Default User wrote: Hi guys! I am running Debian 12 Stable, up to date, on a low-spec Dell Inspiron 15 3000 Model 3511. Firmware is also up to date. I have a 4 Gb Western Digital external usb SATA HDD, Model WDC WD40NDZW-11A8JS1. It has only one partition, formatted as ext4.

Re: red SATA cables "notoriously bad"?

On 2/19/24 18:07, Felix Miata wrote: My experience with that particular color cables matches Gene's. Cut one open, and out comes a powdery substance instead of clean copper strands. I think most for gen 1.0 SATA 2 decades ago, so there shouldn't be many still around bogging down 3.0 drives.

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On 2/18/24 19:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot process. Perhaps. But, are you re-balancing your btrfs file systems regularly? https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/btrfs-progs/btrfs-balance.8.en.html Doing it by hand was not

Re: partition reporting full, but not

Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-17 15:44 (UTC+1100): Yes the / partitions are btrfs Several years ago, I installed Debian (9?) using btrfs for root (and boot?). I failed to understand that btrfs required regular maintenance and/or I was too lazy to figure it out and do it. After a

Re: f3tools vs Silicon Power 4T drive

On 2/16/24 12:46, Stefan Monnier wrote: One of the 1T samsungs in the md raid10 isn't entirely happy but mdadm has not fussed about it, and smartctl seems to say its ok after testing.  Other than that the gui access delay (30+ seconds) problems I have did NOT go away when I moved /home off the

Re: f3tools vs Silicon Power 4T drive

On 2/15/24 22:16, gene heskett wrote: I want to know with absolute certainty, with of the 4 drives in that raid10, actually has a belly ache. When it has a belly ache. I can't see any reason on this ball of rock and water, why I should be expected to replace a drive at a time until the belly

Re: f3tools vs Silicon Power 4T drive

On 2/15/24 17:44, gene heskett wrote: One of the 1T samsungs in the md raid10 isn't entirely happy but mdadm has not fussed about it, and smartctl seems to say its ok after testing.  Other than that the gui access delay (30+ seconds) problems I have did NOT go away when I moved /home off the

Re: f3tools vs Silicon Power 4T drive

On 2/15/24 12:59, gene heskett wrote: ... gigastones, I 5 of them but when all are plugged in there are only 3 becauae there are 2 pairs of matching serial numbers ... I recall 2 pairs of SSD's with matching serial numbers. Please remove one SSD of each pair so that the remaining SSD's

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

On 2/16/24 10:56, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote: I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage and have found it to be reliable enough for personal and SOHO network use. I have one, haven't done much

Re: f3tools vs Silicon Power 4T drive

On 2/15/24 12:19, gene heskett wrote: On 2/15/24 11:21, Andy Smith wrote: ... redundancy plans ... Like which version of a raid is the best at tolerating a failed drive, which give he best balance between redundancy and capacity. Given a small number of disks, N (say, 4 to 8), the obvious

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

On 2/15/24 07:41, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-02-15 at 03:09, David Christensen wrote: On 2/14/24 18:54, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-01-09 at 14:22, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-01-09 at 14:01, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 9 Jan 2024 13:25 -0500, from The Wanderer I've ordered a 22TB external

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

On 2/14/24 18:54, The Wanderer wrote: TL;DR: It worked! I'm back up and running, with what appears to be all my data safely recovered from the failing storage stack! That is good to hear. :-) On 2024-01-09 at 14:22, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-01-09 at 14:01, Michael Kjörling wrote:

Re: f3tools vs Silicon Power 4T drive

On 2/14/24 18:06, gene heskett wrote: Will the by-id string fit in the space reserved for a label?That IF there was a connection between the /dev/sdc that udev assigns and anything in this list: root@coyote:~# ls /dev/disk/by-id ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865

Re: f3tools vs Silicon Power 4T drive

On 2/14/24 17:48, gene heskett wrote: On 2/14/24 19:48, Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 05:09:02PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: I have made 1 full partiton om each one, a labeled those partitions  as SiPwr_0 and SiPwr_1 Please show us the command you used¹ to do that, so we know what

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On 2/13/24 09:40, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: Shred will determine the size of the file, then write data to the file, rewind, write data again, etc. On a traditional hard drive, that will overwrite the original private information. On modern devices, it may not.

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On 2/13/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: Next experiment is a pair of 4T Silicon Power SSD's When they & the startech usb3 adapters arrive.  I'll get that NAS built for amanda yet. 2.5" SATA SSD's and SATA to USB adapter cables for $187.97 + $10.99 = $198.96 each set?

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

On 2/12/24 08:30, Linux-Fan wrote: David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml What algorithm did you implement? I copied the algorithm from here: https

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On 2/12/24 08:50, Curt wrote: On 2024-02-11, wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:54:24AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] If FILE is -, shred standard output. =20 In every sentence, the word FILE appears. There's nothing in there which says "you can operate on a non-file".

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml Before knowing about `fio` this way my way to benchmark SSDs :) Example: | $ big4 -b /dev/null 100 GiB | Ma_Sys.ma Big 4.0.2, Copyright (c) 2014,

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On 2/11/24 06:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 03:45:21PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:37:31AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 08:02:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] What Thomas was trying to do is to get a cheap,

Re: Unidentified subject!

On 2/11/24 03:13, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: Concurrency: threads throughput 8 205+198+180+195+205+184+184+189=1,540 MB/s There remains the question how to join these streams without losing speed in order to produce a single checksum. (Or one would have

Re: Unidentified subject!

geometry: *Usable* size: 59.15 GB (124050944 blocks) Announced size: 1.91 TB (409600 blocks) David Christensen wrote: Which other thread? Please provide a URL to archived post. https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/e7a0c1a1-f973-4007-a86d-8d91d8d91

Re: Unidentified subject!

On 2/11/24 00:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: $ time dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8K count=128K | wc -c [...] 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 4.30652 s, 249 MB/s This looks good enough for practical use on spinning rust and slow SSD. Yes. Maybe the "wc&

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On 2/10/24 16:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 04:05:21PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: 2024-02-10 16:03:50 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ shred -s 1K - | wc -c shred: -: invalid file type 0 It looks like a shred(1) needs a bug report. I'm confused what you expected this command

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On 2/10/24 04:40, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 11:38:21AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] But shred(1) on Debian 11 refuses on "-" contrary to its documentation: shred: -: invalid file type A non-existing file path causes "No such file or directory". Hmm. This looks

Re: testing new sdm drive continued

On 2/10/24 08:25, gene heskett wrote: I managed to kill f3write, so f3probe could access it: ene@coyote:/mnt/disktest$ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sdm F3 probe 8.0 Copyright (C) 2010 Digirati Internet LTDA. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. WARNING:

Re: Unidentified subject!

On 2/10/24 10:28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: In the other thread about the /dev/sdm test: Creating file 39.h2w ... 1.98% -- 1.90 MB/s -- 257:11:32 but is taking a few bytes now and then. [...] $ ls -l total 40627044 [...] $ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sdm Bad news: The device

Re: Unidentified subject!

On 2/10/24 02:38, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I have an own weak-random generator, but shred beats it by a factor of 10 when writing to /dev/null. As a baseline, here is a 2011 Dell Latitude E6520 with Debian generating a non-repeatable 1 GiB stream of cryptographically secure pseudo-random

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (WasRe: Unidentified subject!)

On 2/9/24 04:53, gene heskett wrote: Interesting report from gdisk however: GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 1.0.9 Partition table scan:   MBR: MBR only   BSD: not present   APM: not present   GPT: not present *** Found invalid GPT and

Re: testing new sdm drive

On 2/9/24 00:51, gene heskett wrote: On 2/8/24 13:25, David Christensen wrote: On 2/7/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ sudo smartctl --all -dscsi /dev/sdm ... scsiModePageOffset: response length too short, resp_len=4 offset=4 bd_len=0 scsiModePageOffset: response length too

Re: testing new sdm drive

On 2/8/24 12:36, Linux-Fan wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev writes: From here on I'd suggest trying the tools from package `f3`. Thank you for the suggestion -- I was hoping somebody knew of a FOSS Debian package that can validate drive capacity: https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/f3

Re: testing new sdm drive

On 2/8/24 11:23, gene heskett wrote: On 2/8/24 07:22, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: This is how I would test it. ... Looks neat. Any chance this will crash my machine? I have other design work going on, and I'd hate to have to start from scratch. Do not use a production computer for drive

Re: testing new sdm drive

On 2/8/24 10:24, David Christensen wrote: On 2/7/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ sudo smartctl --all -dscsi /dev/sdm ... scsiModePageOffset: response length too short, resp_len=4 offset=4 bd_len=0 scsiModePageOffset: response length too short, resp_len=4 offset=4 bd_len=0

Re: testing new sdm drive

On 2/7/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ sudo smartctl --all -dscsi /dev/sdm smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-17-rt-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Vendor:

Portable External Hard Drive 2TB (was: Unidentified subject!)

On 1/22/24 19:55, gene heskett wrote: > 2T ssd's: > > It appears Amazon took down the above web page. Using

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