Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 12:19:50PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: tasks-xfce-desktop is a meta package that includes xfce, and also a set of additional packages that are typically used on a desktop system, like libreoffice and iceweasel. Those packages should be part of an OS install,

Re: sudo in X-environment

2014-05-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:04:46PM +0200, Slavko wrote: On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 07:29:08PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: Here, have a wrapper script --8x #!/bin/sh xhost + si:localuser:root sudo $@ xhost - si:localuser:root --8x

Re: sudo in X-environment

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 04:30:11PM +, Артур Истомин wrote: On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 10:51:21AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: For years I have used sudo both in server administration and on the desktop. Lately I get the following error message and I do not really know what to do about it

Re: sudo in X-environment

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 05:19:59PM +, Артур Истомин wrote: On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 05:46:36PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: 'xhost +' allows anyone anywhere access to your X server. If you must use xhost in this situation it would be much safer to use 'xhost + si:localuser:root', this would

Re: [solved] Re: jigdo various questions ( --noask does not work + how to use /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb as source )

2014-04-30 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:16:32PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Thanks for your replies. No problem, glad I could help. I guess I'll have to submit some reports, for example that the man does not says explicitly the order of the arguments. I'll do some other tries before to

Re: doc-linux-text Not in Wheezy?

2014-04-29 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 08:29:45PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 29/04/14 20:22, Paul Lane wrote: Searched archive and found nothing regarding any discussion of it being removed. I did find it available for Squeeze. However, as I stated it is not found in the package lists for Wheezy. Has

Re: jigdo various questions ( --noask does not work + how to use /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb as source )

2014-04-29 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 04:27:20PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to update some iso images ( I have downloaded ISOs last week, but it seems that there were an update since, my images are in 7.4 and last debian stable is 7.5 ) through jigdo, and wanted to

Re: jigdo various questions ( --noask does not work + how to use /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb as source )

2014-04-29 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 05:00:03PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: The URI needs to be the last element of the command. You will find most of the required files if you mount the iso and pass the mount point with --scan, passing the iso file finds 0 files. Using --scan causes jigdo to not ask

Re: doc-linux-text Not in Wheezy?

2014-04-29 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:41:52AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 29/04/14 23:53, Tom Furie wrote: What does apt-cache policy doc-linux-text show? doc-linux-text: Installed: 2008.08-1 Candidate: 2008.08-1 Version table: *** 2008.08-1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Re: Systemd

2014-04-25 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 09:49:18PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 15:12 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Kinda seems like the (de) evolution of cars, doesn't it? As a kid, I could tune up my beater flat head 6 1959 Plymouth in 20 minutes with a 10 inch adjustable and a gapping

Re: Logging of commands in a bash script to a file

2014-04-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 07:06:41PM -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: I'm writing a bash script that runs several routing commands. I would like these commands, on a part of the script, plus run, are saved to a log file. I'm having trouble processing this paragraph. Are you saying that you want to

Re: Sudo Autoremove wanting to kill my system?

2014-04-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 01:22:40AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 22 apr 14, 22:56:27, Lisi Reisz wrote: Unfortunately this may not have the desired effect with at least Gnome, due to circular Depends/Recommends of the installed packages. Besides, recently[1] meta-packages have been

Re: Sudo Autoremove wanting to kill my system?

2014-04-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 09:05:09AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote: This seems an odd choice to make. If I installed a meta-package because I couldn't be bothered to investigate which individual packages I wanted, or just

Re: Sudo Autoremove wanting to kill my system?

2014-04-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 09:37:50AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote: In your example above, while gnome depends on openoffice, openoffice cannot be removed without also removing gnome and thus anything that was pulled

Package dependencies

2014-04-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:38:13AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: Those concepts are fine for concrete packages. My MUD client Gypsum, if I were to package it as a .deb, would Depend on Pike and GTK, would Recommend the latest Pike (if it's possible to depend on one version and recommend

Re: install cinnamon

2014-04-21 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 02:43:31PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: On Mon, 2014-04-21 at 19:50 +0100, Brian wrote: You have joined your mail to an existing one and your topic has nothing to do with the one you have added your mail to. This doesn't benefit the person who sent the original mail

Re: Spam on the list

2014-04-21 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:06:00PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: What the heck Sorry I'm new to the whole group email / NEWSGROUP thing. It was spam. Sometimes it gets through the filters. Best course of action is to not reply to it, and *never* quote it. Cheers, Tom -- Support your local

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-19 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 02:33:43PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 19/04/14 07:55, Joe wrote: As is the light originating inside peoples' homes and passing out of their windows. In which case it is arguable that it is perfectly acceptable to collect and record that light with a camera

Re: DynDNS no longer free.

2014-04-08 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 03:51:01PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: DynDNS just announced that their free hostname program in 30 days will no longer be gratis. I use that with ddclient to update the IP address for my blog. Are there other free alternatives? This news disappointed me too, given

Re: DynDNS no longer free.

2014-04-08 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 07:03:26PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: Over lo these many years, I have run ez-ipupdate on my perimeter to keep my dynamic hostname in sync. So I pulled up the description, which says: Currently supported are: ez-ip (http://www.EZ-IP.Net/), Penguinpowered

Re: DynDNS no longer free.

2014-04-08 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 07:32:37PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: I apologize. I should have vetted these before posting them. Best as I can tell, ez-ip, penguinpowered, and hn seem to be gone, dhs, ods, easydns are no longer free, tzo got acquired by dyndns (thus under the 30 days left

Re: missing devel pkgs for emacs build

2014-04-07 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 10:04:31PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk writes: On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 05:12:00PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: ./configure returns the error below concerning not finding certain pkgs installed concerning X. Tail of output

Re: missing devel pkgs for emacs build

2014-04-07 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 12:35:39PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: One thing should be mentioned... I've allowed my debian system to fall badly behind in updates and general maintenance. Now face a bit of a job getting back on track. But doubt that is the cause of my troubles. What version of

Re: missing devel pkgs for emacs build

2014-04-07 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 03:25:57PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk writes: What version of Debian are you on? Much of what I mentioned about falling behind has been corrected in the course of this problem. jessie Ah, I tested with wheezy. I'll load up a jessie vm

Re: missing devel pkgs for emacs build

2014-04-07 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:19:25PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: Ah, I tested with wheezy. I'll load up a jessie vm and test again. In theory it shouldn't make any difference, but that's the difference between theory and practice :) With a fresh install of Jessie plus xorg-dev, libgif-dev, libtiff

Re: missing devel pkgs for emacs build

2014-04-06 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 05:12:00PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: ./configure returns the error below concerning not finding certain pkgs installed concerning X. Tail of output: [...] checking whether gcc understands -MMD -MF... yes checking for long file names... yes checking for

Re: How to Switch Between Gnome and KDE

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 02:12:15PM -0700, ray wrote: Which desktop manager are you using? Once we know, one of us will be able to tell you how to switch. I'm sure that you don't need to edit anything. I appologize as I am new to Linux I may need some help in the terminology. Please

Re: aptitude search says package will be installed

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 12:20:34AM +0300, Dalios wrote: Hi all, A few weeks back while I was still following Stable (wheezy) I used gdebi to install a package (minitube if that matters). Later I upgraded to Testing (jessie) and now I used the command apt-get purge minitube to uninstall the

Re: no eth0 connection-redux

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 08:05:09PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: First of all, you've broken the thread. The thread was broken once already by the March / April forced break at the end of the month. You can't help that. But this time, you've broken it yourself by starting a new thread.

Re: How to Switch Between Gnome and KDE

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 08:43:51PM -0700, ray wrote: Great, thank you. I can now switch. I was hoping to see a change. For example, I understand the Gnome has the date and menu at the top and KDE at the bottom of the screen. After switching to KDE and rebooting, I see a new log in window,

Re: The quest for a multimonitor screensaver

2014-04-04 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 07:05:28PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: Uberto Lauri has been a source of great help, And so far I've gotten this far towards a multiscreen screensaver by running one directly like this: ric@iam:/usr/lib/xscreensaver$ ./glschool -geometry 5440x1024+1 ...for four

Re: how to change default pager for tab completions from 'more' to 'less'

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 01:34:54PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: if i use tab completion, and there are a lot of possibilities, 'more' is used as the default pager to show the list. I want to see the list with the 'less' pager. There are a few ways to achieve your goal, depending on exactly what

Re: how to change default pager for tab completions from 'more' to 'less'

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:40:13PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: There are a few ways to achieve your goal, depending on exactly what your goal is. As far as I'm aware 'less' has a higher priority than 'more' in the alternatives system, so... Oops. No there aren't. That should teach me to read more

Re: Disabling services

2014-04-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 09:50:49AM -0400, Roman Gelfand wrote: Is there a tool that would take down and disable a service based on a configurable criteria? Depending what your configurable criteria are, there are probably several tools that could be used. Cheers, Tom -- Hand, n.: A

loop.de and alice-dsl.de mail problems suggestion

2014-04-01 Thread Tom Furie
Aimed primarily at Ralf and Hans, but may be of interest to other parties. MX lookups for loop.de and alice-dsl.de both resolve to megamailservers.eu, I would suggest that your mail problems lie there. Cheers, Tom -- Finally, Zippy drives his 1958 RAMBLER METROPOLITAN into the faculty dining

Re: Hardware failover webserver cluster

2014-03-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 09:29:23AM +0100, basti wrote: SRV1 - Node 1 client --|(shared IP) \/ | /\ SRV2 - Node 2 : Node n Can I use a

Re: Great Debian experience

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 09:51:25PM +0700, Ken Heard wrote: Since reading your post I discovered that the latest kernel now available is 3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 which I will now install. There are other kernels mentioned in wheezy-backports labelled pae. Since I don't know what that means I will

Re: cdimage.debian.org how-to? what gives?

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:32:44AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: pecondon writes: I tried to access cdimages.debian.org on it using FireFox, and could not. There is no such site. Try https://www.debian.org/CD/ There is no such site as cdimages.debian.org, but there *is* cdimage.debian.org.

Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:21:52PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote: Why does texstudio as editor need to install latex packages? Since texstudio is a LaTeX editor it makes sense that it would pull in latex packages. The package doesn't 'depend' on latex though, it's only a 'recommends' relationship,

Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 01:43:59PM +, Tom Furie wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:21:52PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote: Why does texstudio as editor need to install latex packages? Since texstudio is a LaTeX editor it makes sense that it would pull in I forgot to mention the --no-install

Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:58:01PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote: Last question is there a way to set this option by default or should i just set an alias? That's all covered in the apt man pages. Cheers, Tom -- Courage is your greatest present need. signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 05:45:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is there some way I could have gained access as root? The classic approach to this problem is to pass 'init=/bin/sh' to the kernel. The method for doing so depends

Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:09:33PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 15/03/14 21:45, Richard Owlett wrote: If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is there some way I could have gained access as root? # passwd `grep 1000 /etc/passwd | cut -d : -f1` That doesn't

Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is there some way I could have gained access as root? If you remember the root password, than I don't

Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:58:59PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Tom is smarter than we are, it's likely that his guess is correct. The OP confused the term for I am far from it, and Lisi and Scott have both made excellent points that illustrate that. no root account, but the first user has got

Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:21:27PM +, Tom Furie wrote: It does seem much more likely that Scott is correct and root logins are only disabled at the graphical login - as Scott says, that is the default configuration - in which case Richard should be able to ctrl-alt-Fn to a virtual console

Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 05:45:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: The complete hard drive is wiped at least once a month. I consistently use my name as the login on the first install of any series. The login of any subsequent install will be a mnemonic associated associated with the current

Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:25:41AM -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:01:15 + Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote: The classic approach to this problem is to pass 'init=/bin/sh' to the kernel. Do you think this is going to continue working when we

Re: [Fwd: Re: systemd - boot messages]

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 05:35:18PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I could write what ever I want to send to this list, but as soon systemd is part of the subject, my mails are delayed or won't come through the list. It isn't only you this happens to. *All* messages with systemd in the subject get

Re: Apache default directories

2014-03-14 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:44:14PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 3/14/2014 9:20 PM, Peter Michaux wrote: I would expect they go somewhere under /usr/share/. ^ /usr/lib is not a subdirectory of /usr/lib/cgi-bin. A web user can access anything in the

Re: SASL auth failure dovecot/postfix

2014-03-11 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 02:49:34PM +0100, Tazman Deville wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 02:41:02PM +0100, Tazman Deville wrote: both servers show similar in mail.warn: Mar 11 13:52:16 myownsite postfix/smtpd[16685]: warning: SASL authentication failure: Password verification failed Mar

Re: SASL auth failure dovecot/postfix

2014-03-11 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 04:22:45PM +0100, Tazman Deville wrote: They both use mysql (well, mariadb) auth for both dovecot and postfix. I have confirmed that I can connect to the DB on either server with the mail admin account configured in postfix. Yet, I can not send mail. Do they connect

Re: A question about Aptitude interactive mode [Solved]

2014-03-11 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:01:27AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: Information in manpage convinced me that the problem is a bug in Aptitude, and search of bug reports shows that it is already reported. In bug reports, what I called 'interactive', is referred to as 'visual'. I'm sure it will be

Re: SASL auth failure dovecot/postfix

2014-03-11 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:36:55PM +0100, Tazman Deville wrote: There are few users on either server, and all I've tested are unable to send mail. In both servers, there is 1 mail DB for both dovecot and postfix, yes. If both dovecot and postfix are using the same authentication mechanism

Re: A question about Aptitude interactive mode [Solved]

2014-03-11 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:02:46PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20140311_205250, Tom Furie wrote: how often do you see that purple when you aren't in aptitude? If it ^^^ Every single time I do whatever makes it happen, I cannot

Re: SASL auth failure dovecot/postfix

2014-03-11 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 09:43:41PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote: This is what we ended up doing, rolling back to an older version of mariadb, libmysqlclient18, etc. I posted the relevant instructions (where to get the older pkgs, etc.) earlier. Both Taz' server and the other are both sending

Re: feature request for this mailing list

2014-03-10 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 05:11:05PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 07:24:36PM +, Tom Furie wrote: This is the snippet from my .procmailrc for handling Debian mailing lists. Each list gets sorted into it's own directory. :0 * ^List-id: debian-.+\.lists\.debian

Re: Wifi

2014-03-08 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 09:51:52PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 3/8/2014 2:18 PM, Patrick Alouidor wrote: Hello all. I'm not sure if it me but I have a fresh install of Debian 7 on laptop Toshiba C-55A5310. and For some reason I cannot enable my wifi switch. I have been pressing the F

Re: feature request for this mailing list

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:08:03AM -0800, David Guntner wrote: I use Procmail to do my mail filtering for me. The recipe I use is: # Debian list processing # Look for the list address here and put them in their own file :0: * ^TO_ .*@lists.debian.org $MAILDIR/debian/ This is the snippet

Re: Test (impact of systemd)

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 08:06:47PM +, Brian wrote: There is a thread at present on -user: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/03/msg00279.html Its Subject: is Read-only rootfs on systemd Hmm... I now suspect that any message with systemd in the subject is being delayed by the

Re: Test

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 08:31:23PM +, Tom Furie wrote: I honestly thought I was joking when I mentioned them being intercepted en-route. Yep, there's the delay. My confidence is shaken, and my curiosity is piqued. Cheers, Tom -- Leave no stone unturned. -- Euripides

Re: Can't parse interface line '#015'

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 11:53:24AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 07/03/14 01:59, lina wrote: Hi, From syslog, it shows me: Mar 6 10:47:05 debian NetworkManager[6729]: Error: Can't parse interface line '#015' # cat -n interfaces 1 # This file describes the network

Re: Can't parse interface line '#015'

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 02:44:42PM +0800, lina wrote: I have never realized that until you pointed out. Thanks, No problem, I see my good deed for today is done :) BTW, did you delete line 12, the 'allow-hotplug eth0' line? If so, you'll probably want to add it back in, or replace it with an

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 04:29:52PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: The device had available, a software suite, named the Samsung Unified Print Driver. That worked with Debian Linux 5. It apparently does not work with Debian Linux 6. Something changed from Debian Linux 5, to Debian Linux 6,

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 10:06:17AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: PS: I'll set up msmtp ASAP and then replace Evolutions SMTP thingy, to see if I get information about the issue. If you look at the headers on your posts (or anyone else's for that matter), you can track the progress from origin to

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 12:24:26PM +, Brian wrote: The interesting questions involve what is happening on bendel after a mail is accepted. 1. Why is any mail delayed for 15 minutes before onward transmission? Could be any of many reasons. System load, SMTP transmission failure, routing

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 06:44:33PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: I was just wondering something. How much effort would it take for me, personally, just me, to make my Debian Stable start all its processes with DJB's Daemontools. I know Daemontools, I understand it, I know how to work with it and

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 02:53:35AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Actually, you just need to pass the proper 'init=' parameter to the kernel. That works too, but by default the kernel will look for /sbin/init. For testing purposes passing the parameter would obviously be the safer choice.

Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 06:11:42PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: BTW: there is something more than just KDE since I didn't get a slowdown when I tried it with a new user without having the raid array /home. The differences besides the raid array are: - new user configuration with almost no files -

Re: Test

2014-03-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 01:41:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: My apologies, I'm aware that no test mails should be send to the Debian user mailing list. If I reply (several times) I don't come through the list anymore. Some time ago I needed to reply 3 or 4 times and then one reply did came

Re: Test

2014-03-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 01:41:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: My apologies, I'm aware that no test mails should be send to the Debian user mailing list. If I reply (several times) I don't come through the list anymore. Some time ago I needed to reply 3 or 4 times and then one reply did came

Re: need help on using crontab

2014-02-19 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 08:20:50AM +, Dom wrote: From the original post, Long Wind seems to have used the original method of creating crontabs: crontab name of file to use as new crontab The usual sequence (on the old Unix systems I used to admin) was: crontab -l mycronfile vi

Re: need help on using crontab

2014-02-19 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:22:08AM -0500, Long Wind wrote: I find that shutdown can take a time argument so why do I bother with cron Thank Raffaele Morelli and Tom anyway! Cron would be useful if you want to regularly shutdown or reboot the machine on some definable interval without

Re: need help on using crontab

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:26:38AM -0500, Long Wind wrote: I want to shutdown at some time, so I create a file named cmd with a line below: 3 5 * * * root /sbin/shutdown -h now I run the command : crontab cmd but it doesn't shutdown Why? Where did you create the file? Are you

Re: need help on using crontab

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:56:50AM -0500, Long Wind wrote: I want to shutdown at 5:03 I check with crontab -l it seems OK Depending on how you created the file the format may or may not be okay. Did you create the file in /etc/cron.d, or as a user with 'crontab -e'? Given that you say

Re: PXE install, without internet?

2014-02-04 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 05:35:31PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: iface eth0 inet static address 172.16.4.104 netmask 255.255.248.0 Just in case it makes a difference - that's a /29 network i.e. 192 possible hosts (32 subnets with 6 hosts each) unless that's not Easy mistake to

Re: permissions: can you force ACL to be effective over unix perms?

2014-01-14 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 05:21:18PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: I have 2 classes of users - SFTP users (customers), and SFTP managers (company users that manage customer data). I want a highly secure and privacy safe SFTP server. But I also want it to appear to users as simple and easy as

Re: PXE install, without internet?

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:40:03AM +, Артур Истомин wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 01:21:30PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: So is there a way to boot an entire 4gb dvd-iso from a server, so that I can install it on PC connected on a network?? You can create local mirror of repos. A

Re: Still bothered by annoying Re: new motherboard now Autorepeat of keys even when not pressed down

2014-01-10 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 08:43:23AM -0500, Mitchell Laks wrote: I wanted to see if I can rejuvenate this thread or if should I start a new one. My debian stable (now is sid but no new behavior) ps2 keyboards keep maniacally repeating keys. occasionally it seems almost spontaneous but

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 12:22:15PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: Better presupposes good. If something doesn't approach good, e.g. someone misses the target by 10 metres are they better than the person who missed by 20 metres? Or less worse. To call the 10 miss better is a version of newspeak.

Re: jwm

2013-12-26 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:24:13AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The package is already installed. (JFTR I installed KDE before I installed JWM, perhaps it was installed with KDE. The KDE menu is ok.) How do I use update-menues and install-menu? I couldn't find a howto. Did you look at

Re: Error in apt-get install in libstdc++ package

2013-09-07 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 04:04:37PM +0530, Balamurugan wrote: Do you mean there is no such package like libstdc++? That is correct, there is no package libstdc++ I have just ran the commands on a fresh install of Debian 7 (Wheezy) 64-bit system. root@debian:/home/user# apt-get install

Re: About installation DVD's

2013-05-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:06:23PM +0530, Rupesh Reddy wrote: Sir please explain what's the process going on and why the remaining seven DVD's are not released yet. If you *really* need DVD images beyond the first three, you can produce them using jigdo. Cheers, Tom -- QOTD: I'm

Re: DON'T REPLY TO THIS THREAD: adduser (with crypted/random) password]

2013-05-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 04:49:24PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: What the f... I got this, after sending my reply (to the list only) to the request from Pol Hallen m...@fuckaround.org: I received the same error replying to an unrelated thread, so I don't think this is a problem at Pol's mail

Re: Spurious letter appears in OpenOffice printed document

2013-05-14 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:03:14AM -0400, George Langford, Sc.D. wrote: Document prints with a spurious letter in upper left hand corner of image: 1. On debian PC running squeeze, only since recent apt-get update. 2. On WinXPSP3 laptop, the same document prints perfectly with the same

Re: Easiest way to get libredline-dev for Lenny

2013-05-10 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 08:27:06AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: Is there an archive that I can simply build a sources.lst file for which then makes aptitude or apt-get work to pull in the Lenny files? This would be quicker, easier and less of a possibility for human error on my part

Re: The order of my SATA and PATA are switching all the time

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 03:28:47AM +, T o n g wrote: Can I use something like root=ID=ata-IBM-DBCA-203240_HP0HPL43952? I remember nothing worked well, so I reverted to the (now troublesome) safe /dev/sdXn. I think the idea is to replace /dev/sdXn with e.g.

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:46:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: *QUESTION:* Is there a way to defeat/disable OS_PROBER(sp?) during installation? Os-prober is at most a 'recommends' of grub. You can quite easily not install it if you wish. I'm not sure if os-prober can be skipped if it's

Re: Console showing control characters for input on console keyboard

2013-03-20 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 04:43:53PM -0300, francis picabia wrote: I am beginning to think this system is glitchy when PS/2 is detached and reattached. That's entirely possible. PS/2 was never designed to be hot-swappable. Cheers, Tom signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?) Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it amounts to the same thing :) Cheers, Tom -- I think the world is run by C students. --

Re: multiple nic/IP in firewall

2013-01-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 05:47:02PM -0300, Roberto Scattini wrote: i also tried a different approach, found somewhere with google, that is more in line with my understanding of the problem. basically, it marks the packets so they can be routed back to the same nic they came in: ip route

Re: multiple nic/IP in firewall

2013-01-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 07:54:25PM -0300, Roberto Scattini wrote: ~# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface XX.220.XX.176 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 eth3 YY.20.YY.0 0.0.0.0

Re: iptables; some IPs are getting through netmasks

2012-12-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 05:10:45AM -0800, Mark Ford wrote: I am hoping someone can help show me where I'm going wrong. I have iptables setup in the following way, basically, I am using the chain pests to drop data from certain IPs. Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source

Re: Are all files produced by GPL Ghostscript copyrighted by 'Artifex Software, Inc.'?

2012-12-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:09:32PM -0800, Vaibhav Niku wrote: pdf2ps, which is a frontend to gs, inserts a copyright notice in all PS files it produces. I am using `GPL Ghostscript 8.71 (2010-02-10)'. Files look like this: %!PS-Adobe-3.0 ... %%Creator: GPL Ghostscript 871 (pswrite) ...

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:37:09PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: informations. With apt-cache if I am running my debian, or with http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=foobar if I am not using A shortcut for this is http://packages.debian.org/packagename Cheers, Tom -- The

Re: Write protect access on USB port

2012-11-26 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 09:28:19PM +, Amit wrote: Thanks for the reply. I was looking for block level write protect. That is, nobody can write a simple C program and use the open call and write garbage to the device. Tweak the udev rules to remove write permissions on the USB bus?

Re: Can't fix doc-base installation problem

2012-11-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 04:19:28PM -0800, Gary Roach wrote: root@mycomputer:/etc/doc-base# aptitude reinstall doc-base It seems that some files are missing (install-docs?) but I can't determine what they are or where they are. Some help, plese. Install-docs belongs to package

Re: Mail client, threads, etc...

2012-11-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:41:08PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Apologize! As a point of reference, I think the word you were looking for there was apologies, as in Please accept my apologies. Cheers, Tom -- The hater of property and of government takes care to have his warranty deed recorded,

Re: Guide / Tools

2012-11-21 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:22:10AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Not needed by a newbie and quasi obsolet for many distros. Ok, I didn't comment everything, you mentioned several commands that IMO are only confusing a newbie, those are also two commands that are unimportant. The OP didn't ask

Re: Sources.list Question

2012-11-21 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:18:48AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2012 08:53:38 Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:43:16PM -0500, Fred White wrote: Hello List, It is considered (well, actually it is) rude to hijack threads on mailing lists.

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