My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
router/gateway computer.
It should run Debian.
It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or
have suitable expansion capability.
It should
On 14/11/23 06:57, Charles Curley wrote:
My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
router/gateway computer. It should run Debian. It should either have
two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or h
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> router/gateway computer.
>
> It should run Debian.
>
> It should either have two gigabit (or
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 5:58 PM Charles Curley
wrote:
>
> My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> router/gateway computer.
>
> It should run Debian.
>
> It should either have two gigabit (or better)
Charles Curley wrote:
> It should run Debian.
>
> It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or
> have suitable expansion capability.
>
> It should be quiet: no fans, and low power requirements. A small
> physical footprint would be nice.
>
> Most of the time it will run
On 14.11.2023 04:08, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
router/gateway computer.
It should run Debian.
I
Charles Curley writes:
> My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> router/gateway computer.
I built a router with an APUD4D board and case from
pcengines.ch. They're going out of production but are c
On 14.11.23 10:45, Anssi Saari wrote:
Charles Curley writes:
My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
router/gateway computer.
I built a router with an APUD4D board and case from
pcengines.ch. They'
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> > router/gateway computer.
> >
> > It should run Debian.
> >
> This looks too good to be true and raises many red flags.
> According to Intel specs [1] for this processor it's 28W of heat to
> dissipate and that is Base Power only, Turbo Boost is whooping 64W(!).
> IMO it is impossible to do with fan-less design at this small size, so there
> will be at lea
On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote:
This looks too good to be true and raises many red flags.
According to Intel specs [1] for this processor it's 28W of heat to
dissipate and that is Base Power only, Turbo Boost is whooping 64W(!).
IMO it is impossible to do with fan-less design at this
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:31:52 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
> On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> [...]
> [...]
> I wrote that email as a word of caution, because Roberto had
> mentioned he is looking for the device with the same conditions as
> OP, which is "no fans".
> And
On 15.11.2023 18:47, Charles Curley wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:31:52 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote:
[...]
[...]
I wrote that email as a word of caution, because Roberto had
mentioned he is looking for the device with the same conditions
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
> 16 years is a good amount of value. :)
> Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard?
Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode SBC.
https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=c256a73072
I did buy a spare hard drive for each, and
On 16.11.2023 03:46, Charles Curley wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
16 years is a good amount of value. :)
Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard?
Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode SBC.
https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=c256a73072
On 11/15/23 18:37, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
On 16.11.2023 03:46, Charles Curley wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
16 years is a good amount of value. :)
Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard?
Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode S
On 14/11/23 08:42, Dan Ritter wrote:
I bought one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Firewall-Appliance-HUNSN-Barebone-Storage/dp/B0B53MKZBX/
(4 x 2.5Gb NICs, N5105 CPU) -- I paid about $250 including 16GB RAM
and a 500GB SSD. Works very nicely. For about $70 less you can get
them with 2x 2.5G
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:04:55 +0800
jeremy ardley wrote:
> My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
> exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options
> for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. They can provide a
> network storage service as well a
On 16/11/23 10:15, Charles Curley wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:04:55 +0800
jeremy ardley wrote:
My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options
for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. They can provid
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:04 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
> exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for
> Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian.
Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run t
On 16/11/23 15:40, Tixy wrote:
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:04 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for
Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian.
Are these the usual SBC se
>> My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
>> exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for
>> Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian.
>
> Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run the vendor kernel,
> plus possibly other custom bits,
On 16.11.23 16:49, Stefan Monnier wrote:
My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for
Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian.
Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run the vendor kernel,
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 10:49 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >
>
> > I'm currently running a Globalscale SheevaPlug and a DreamPlugs but
> > Debian support for the old ARM architecture is likely to end soon.
> > (Dropping it seems to come up each release, but so far they're
> > still
> > releasing
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 15:56 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> The FriendlyPC version run a vendor version of Debian with some packages
> especially compiled for the device such as ffmpeg and graphics drivers
>
> Armbian is usually a bit slower in releases and produces a more
> canonical Debian versi
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:57:28 -0700
Charles Curley wrote:
> My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> router/gateway computer.
Thank you all for much useful advice. I ended up with an ACEMAGIC T8
Plus
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 6:17 PM Charles Curley
wrote:
>
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:57:28 -0700
> Charles Curley wrote:
>
> > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> > router/gateway computer.
>
> Th
On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:34:30 -0500
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> As I understand things, a well functioning UEFI system does not need
> to use GRUB. The entries for Linux and Windows will be in the UEFI
> boot menu, and you can boot directly using EFI variables.
>
It's the 'well functioning' tha
> Note: Memtest86 does not appear to work. I believe that is a known
> problem with UEFI machines.
AFAIK the current memtest86+ (not to be confused with memtest86, which
is proprietary) claims to work fine on UEFI.
IIUC the one in oldstable doesn't OTOH.
Stefan
On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 11:58:11 -0500
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Note: Memtest86 does not appear to work. I believe that is a known
> > problem with UEFI machines.
>
> AFAIK the current memtest86+ (not to be confused with memtest86, which
> is proprietary) claims to work fine on UEFI.
> IIUC the o
> Interesting. I have memtest86+ 6.10-4, for amd64, on the machine.
Then AFAIK it is not a known problem (IOW, it should work).
> Maybe I'll try a USB stick version.
IIRC the memtest86+ Debian package comes with .iso files which you can
(manually) put into /boot/images/ and which boot in a slig
> For the curious, I occasionally need to run Microchip MPLAB, the old
> pre-Java version which doesn't do Linux. It only just about does
> Windows... I used to think Serif software was buggy until I tried
> Microchip stuff.
Setting it up might take some work (especially if you need it to have
dir
Bit of a digression here, probably better not to pursue *this* on the
mailing list, but...
Am 30.11.2023 um 12:52 schrieb Joe:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:34:30 -0500
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
As I understand things, a well functioning UEFI system does not need
to use GRUB. The entries for Linux
On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 13:27:59 +0100
Arno Lehmann wrote:
>
> ... have you ever tried
>
> bcdedit /bootsequence
>
> In general, the built-in help of bcdedit is not bad, needs a bit of
> patience, though.
>
> And of course we lack the flexibility of tools such as awk or sed on
> Windows, to a
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