Re: ext3 not recognized?

2002-01-24 Thread Andrew Agno
> Andrew Agno([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > I'm having a problem with recent installs of Debian. My install > > process goes like this: > > > > Install a base potato dist. > > Upgrade to testing. > > > > After doing this, I change the root partition to ext3, and instal

Re: ext3 not recognized?

2002-01-24 Thread Wayne Topa
Andrew Agno([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > I'm having a problem with recent installs of Debian. My install > process goes like this: > > Install a base potato dist. > Upgrade to testing. > > After doing this, I change the root partition to ext3, and install a > 2.4 kernel (2.4.17

Re: Ext3 and Woody

2002-01-09 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake William P Martin: > If I install woody or sid for that matter and use the ext3 ata100 disks can I > upgrade the kernel to 2.4 with ext3. Is there something I have to build into > the kernel specifically? > > Thanks > WP ext3 support - use one of the newer 2.4 kernels. Steve pgpPHrq

Re: ext3 vs xfs

2002-01-09 Thread David B Harris
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 07:22:49 -0500 Edward Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone have any thoughts on which file system to use? ext3 or xfs? A bit of background; I used ReiserFS as my root partition(several gigs), /home, and /var for about a year and a half. I've been using XFS for about eight m

Re: ext3 vs xfs

2002-01-09 Thread Dave Carrigan
Edward Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just received a 160 gb hard drive that I plan to partition as one > big partition and mount as /home/public on the family file server > (woody). Most of the files in this directory are mp3, mpg, avi, etc. > > I've constructed a 2.4.16 kernel with the r

Re: ext3 vs xfs

2002-01-09 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 07:22:49AM -0500, Edward Kear wrote: > > Anyone have any thoughts on which file system to use? ext3 or xfs? > The decision is arbitrary, really. It sounds like the fs will not be heavily loaded, so you don't care about any performance issues. You just need the thing to

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-17 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
Matthew Sackman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:32:00AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > > OK, with ext3 in 2.4.15, what packages in sid will the adventurous want > > to have installed to deal with the shiny new fs? > > > Where have you got 2.4.15 from - is this a pre kernel or an ac kerne

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Matthew Sackman wrote: > Where have you got 2.4.15 from - is this a pre kernel or an ac kernel? Prerelease. Linus finally blessed ext3 into his tree. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/10/0319202&mode=thread > It's just AFAIK 2.4.14 is the latest - am I wrong here? N

Re: ext3 in 2.4.14, or 2.4.15 source package?

2001-11-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:52:26AM -0800, Eric G. Miller (egm2@jps.net) wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:54:27 -0800 > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > > I'm looking for either an ext3fs patch to the 2.4.14 kernel sources (the > > 2.4.13 patch errors out), or would like the 2.4.15 kernel sources, whic

Re: ext3 in 2.4.14, or 2.4.15 source package?

2001-11-17 Thread Brian Nelson
"Karsten M. Self" writes: > I'm looking for either an ext3fs patch to the 2.4.14 kernel sources (the > 2.4.13 patch errors out), or would like the 2.4.15 kernel sources, which > don't appear to be available yet -- any idea on when they're going to be > out for Sid? The 2.4.15 sources are still p

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-17 Thread Matthew Sackman
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:32:00AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > OK, with ext3 in 2.4.15, what packages in sid will the adventurous want > to have installed to deal with the shiny new fs? > Where have you got 2.4.15 from - is this a pre kernel or an ac kernel? It's just AFAIK 2.4.14 is the

Re: ext3 in 2.4.14, or 2.4.15 source package?

2001-11-17 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:54:27 -0800 "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > I'm looking for either an ext3fs patch to the 2.4.14 kernel sources (the > 2.4.13 patch errors out), or would like the 2.4.15 kernel sources, which > don't appear to be available yet -- any idea on when they're going to be > out for Si

Re: ext3 in 2.4.14, or 2.4.15 source package?

2001-11-17 Thread Kazuhiko Uebayashi
Hi, Karsten. I'm Kazuhiko Uebayashi. I used kernel-patch(patch-2.4.15-pre3.gz from http://www.linuxhq.com/ ,it contains ext3 patch) ,using config-file kernel-2.4.13+ext3patch. It works well. On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:54:27 -0800 "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > I'm looking for either an ext3fs patch

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-16 Thread Greg Madden
On Thursday 15 November 2001 08:32 am, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > OK, with ext3 in 2.4.15, what packages in sid will the adventurous want > to have installed to deal with the shiny new fs? AFAIK all the progs are already 'ready' to go . I have been using Ext3 fs in Woody for awhile and use the

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-16 Thread George Dancheff
http://www.symonds.net/~rajesh/howto/ext3/index.html --- "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I want to convert a blank disk to ext3, compile > the kernel then > what? Is there a simple how to? > > > Thus spake Stephen Rueger > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 200

Re: Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-16 Thread Paolo Falcone
Robert L. Harris wrote: >If I want to convert a blank disk to ext3, compile the kernel then >what? Is there a simple how to? make an ext2 filesystem from that partition by issuing mkfs -t ext2 -j -c0 -i0 /dev/your_disk_no This will also create a journal inode then disable the 180-day forc

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-16 Thread Paolo Falcone
Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: >OK, with ext3 in 2.4.15, what packages in sid will the adventurous want >to have installed to deal with the shiny new fs? An upgraded e2fsprogs. If you're using sid and upgrade it quite so often, you've got no problem on that department. Paolo Alexis Falcone __

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-15 Thread Craig Dickson
Robert L. Harris wrote: > If I want to convert a blank disk to ext3, compile the kernel then > what? Is there a simple how to? Compile a kernel with ext3 support (not in a module if you want your root fs to be ext3!), boot with the new kernel, then... To create a new ext3 partition, use mk

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-15 Thread Andrew Agno
Robert L. Harris writes: > If I want to convert a blank disk to ext3, compile the kernel then > what? Is there a simple how to? mke2fs -j /dev/hdc or whatever device you want. To convert to use a journal, try: tune2fs -j /dev/hdc Andrew.

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-15 Thread Robert L. Harris
If I want to convert a blank disk to ext3, compile the kernel then what? Is there a simple how to? Thus spake Stephen Rueger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:32:00AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > > OK, with ext3 in 2.4.15, what packages in sid will the adventurous want

Re: ext3 in 2.4.15

2001-11-15 Thread Stephen Rueger
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:32:00AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > OK, with ext3 in 2.4.15, what packages in sid will the adventurous want > to have installed to deal with the shiny new fs? > None, everything is already there (also in woody, btw.) greets, Stephen Rüger -- "... and on the

Re: So: reiserfs or ext3 (was Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!)

2001-11-11 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 04:35:06PM +0100, Eduard Bloch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > #include > Karsten M. Self wrote on Sun Nov 11, 2001 um 03:49:33AM: > > > > the list and searched for that entry. Ext3 stores the position the > > > last found entry, so when accessing again, the search begins an

Re: So: reiserfs or ext3 (was Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!)

2001-11-11 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Saturday, November 10, 2001, at 05:03 PM, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:16:54PM -0500, Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So, unlike what I read in ReiserFS, I can just hang out on this for a while and then upgrade at my leisure? This is so totally cool Is the

Re: So: reiserfs or ext3 (was Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!)

2001-11-11 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Karsten M. Self wrote on Sun Nov 11, 2001 um 03:49:33AM: > > the list and searched for that entry. Ext3 stores the position the > > last found entry, so when accessing again, the search begins an this > > position and you get your entry wery fast, in best case within the > > first search

Re: So: reiserfs or ext3 (was Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!)

2001-11-11 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 11:59:55AM +0100, Eduard Bloch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > #include > Karsten M. Self wrote on Sat Nov 10, 2001 um 02:48:33PM: > > > Now that you said this... I'd like to see how reiserfs and > > > ext3 in writeback mode perform. I'd think ext3 would still be > > > outper

Re: So: reiserfs or ext3 (was Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!)

2001-11-11 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Karsten M. Self wrote on Sat Nov 10, 2001 um 02:48:33PM: > > Now that you said this... I'd like to see how reiserfs and > > ext3 in writeback mode perform. I'd think ext3 would still be > > outperformed by reiser for the large dir listings. > > The issue isn't writing the directories, bu

Re: So: reiserfs or ext3 (was Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!)

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 08:12:09PM -0200, Jeronimo Pellegrini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 02:03:10PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > I've got both ext3fs and reiserfs on my most recent laptop build. > > > > There are advantages to each. > > > > Reiserfs has better perf

Re: So: reiserfs or ext3 (was Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!)

2001-11-10 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 02:03:10PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > I've got both ext3fs and reiserfs on my most recent laptop build. > > There are advantages to each. > > Reiserfs has better performance with larger filesystems, particularly > for large directory listings. In one case, I've got a

So: reiserfs or ext3 (was Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!)

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:16:54PM -0500, Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So, unlike what I read in ReiserFS, I can just hang out on this for a > while and then upgrade at my leisure? This is so totally cool > Is there an performance difference between this "conversion" and > start

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 12:37:34PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 11:10:50AM -0600, DvB wrote: > > ... it's in as of 2.4.15-pre2 > > > > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/patch-2.4.15.log > > Great, they're weren't even done with 2

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison
Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: See, there's no difference between "converting" and "starting from scratch'. Starting from scratch would mean create a ext2 filesystem and add the journal file to it, etc... (And this is absolutely great!) Read some documentation on ext3: http://people.spoiled.org/j

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:16:54PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > >No, you just have to use tune2fs to add a journal file to each > >partition, and change your fstab. ext3 is forward and backward > >compatible with ext2. Oh -- you will need a recent version of e2fsprogs > > > >J. > > So, unlike what

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison
Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: After all, wouldn't I have to reinstall everying on a new set up partitions in order to get the support for ext3??? No, you just have to use tune2fs to add a journal file to each partition, and change your fstab. ext3 is forward and backward compatible with ext2.

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> I went from the stable kernel in potatoe to 2.4.9 to 2.4.12. I had to > get to 2.4.12 because 2.4.9 had some irda problems. > > I won't get getting into 2.4.15 for a while yet as I'm curious to see > how this ext3 really shakes out and how it's used. 2.4.15-pre2 locks my box hard... > After

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison
Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 12:53:38PM -0500, Jason Wojciechowski wrote: It's a conscious choice. I've read that Alan Cox is a big fan of lots of small-change releases rather than a few big ones. I guess it makes sense to release that way, I just wish they version

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 12:53:38PM -0500, Jason Wojciechowski wrote: > > It's a conscious choice. I've read that Alan Cox is a big fan of lots > of small-change releases rather than a few big ones. I guess it makes sense to release that way, I just wish they versioned a little differently, s

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
* Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > Great, they're weren't even done with 2.4.14 yet. Is it just me, or are > they churning out releases too damn fast for comfort? release early, release often. it's easier to locate and correct bugs in "small change" releases than it is

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Jason Wojciechowski
Michael P. Soulier wrote: | Great, they're weren't even done with 2.4.14 yet. Is it just me, | or are they churning out releases too damn fast for comfort? I am | reassured by Debian's slow release cycle that it will be of high | quality. Kernel.org is slowly becoming as bad as

Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 11:10:50AM -0600, DvB wrote: > ... it's in as of 2.4.15-pre2 > > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/patch-2.4.15.log Great, they're weren't even done with 2.4.14 yet. Is it just me, or are they churning out releases too damn fast for comfort? I am reassured

Re: EXT3

2001-10-22 Thread Danie Roux
On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 09:54:17AM +0200, Morbo wrote: > Hi, > > Where do you get those Alan Cox kernels from ? www.bzimage.org Incremental patches, smaller downloads. -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix

Re: EXT3

2001-10-20 Thread Simon Law
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Morbo wrote: > Hi, > > Where do you get those Alan Cox kernels from ? > > Many thanks in advance! > regards, > Balazs > The easiest way is to get them from kernel.org. Grab the appropriate Linus kernel and apply the -ac patch. Simon

Re: EXT3

2001-10-20 Thread Samuli Suonpaa
A man or a woman with no name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where do you get those Alan Cox kernels from ? Suonpää...

Re: EXT3

2001-10-20 Thread Morbo
Hi, Where do you get those Alan Cox kernels from ? Many thanks in advance! regards, Balazs - Original Message - From: "Simon Law" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul 'Baloo' Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "debian-user List" Sent: Satur

Re: EXT3

2001-10-20 Thread Simon Law
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Aniartia wrote: > > > For the sake of mild curiosty, what's 'special' about the -ac kernels? > > Alan Cox distributes it (as opposed to the plain old Linus Torvalds > kernels). A lot of stuff Torvalds picks up was in -ac fo

Re: EXT3

2001-10-20 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Aniartia wrote: > For the sake of mild curiosty, what's 'special' about the -ac kernels? Alan Cox distributes it (as opposed to the plain old Linus Torvalds kernels). A lot of stuff Torvalds picks up was in -ac for some time before, this is helpful in letting the lunatic fri

AC kernels (was Re: EXT3)

2001-10-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Aniartia wrote: > For the sake of mild curiosty, what's 'special' about the -ac kernels? The -ac kernel patches are produced by Alan Cox (hence the name). They consist of a number of more or less experimental features that often migrate into Linus's official kernels after a while. For example, th

Re: EXT3

2001-10-19 Thread Aniartia
On Friday 19 October 2001 21:18, Craig Dickson wrote: > To use ext3, you need a kernel that supports it. Patches for 2.2.19 and > the current 2.4 kernels are available online. Also, Alan Cox's current > 2.4 kernels (the -ac kernels) include ext3 support. For the sake of mild curiosty, what's 'spec

Re: EXT3

2001-10-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > Everywhere i hear about ext3! > > What is that? What are the advantages (disadvantages)? How can i > set it up on Debian? Ext3 is a journaling filesystem, which means that it applies database-style transaction logic to the filesystem for improved reliability in the fac

Re: ext3 patch for kernel 2.4.12

2001-10-16 Thread Matthew Sackman
Synposis: (which I've posted before - hence is in the archives) Journaling. This is where a log is kept of all write transactions to each filesystem. The log is never cached - it has to be synced onto the harddisc after every transaction, and no transaction is allowed to take place until the log ha

Re: ext3 patch for kernel 2.4.12

2001-10-14 Thread Russ Cook
Without subscribing to the recommended newgroup, can you synopsize the benefits that ext3 brings over ext2? Thanks, Russ On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Matthew Sackman wrote: > Hi there, > > No, ext3 is not yet ready for 2.4.12. > This is mainly because Linus changed a whole bunch of stuff in the

Re: ext3 patch for kernel 2.4.12

2001-10-14 Thread Matthew Sackman
Hi there, No, ext3 is not yet ready for 2.4.12. This is mainly because Linus changed a whole bunch of stuff in the VFS layer in the kernel in 2.4.10 and as a result the ext3 patch for 2.4.10 was/is a little buggy ( = read: don't use it unless you've got backups). They've therefore tracked the ac

Re: ext3 patch for kernel 2.4.12

2001-10-14 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Rajesh Fowkar wrote on Sun Oct 14, 2001 um 10:37:14PM: > There is no patch for 2.4.12 for ext3 on the main site. Yes. > Is ext3 included in linus's kernel in 2.4.12 ? No. If I get the point of ext3-discussion correctly, Linus' modifications in the kernel break to much stuff in ext3 e

Re: Re: Re: ext3 on woody safe for a production machine?

2001-10-09 Thread Paolo Falcone
Robert L. Harris wrote: >Has XFS gone read-write? Last I heard it was still very experimental >and read only in the kernel. Not at all! XFS is very stable. If you want the full capabilities of an XFS-capable kernel, you better stick with 2.4.5. It's good enough for production systems (the guys

Re: Re: ext3 on woody safe for a production machine?

2001-10-08 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 07:42:30AM -0600, Robert L. Harris wrote: > > > Has XFS gone read-write? Last I heard it was still very experimental > and read only in the kernel. It has a revision > 1.0 and read-write support for quite some time now See URL in my previous mail for more info > > Thus

Re: Re: ext3 on woody safe for a production machine?

2001-10-08 Thread Robert L. Harris
Has XFS gone read-write? Last I heard it was still very experimental and read only in the kernel. Thus spake Paolo Falcone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Alson van der Meulen wrote: > > >On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 11:49:45AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > >> I am a newbie ftp-administrator trying to bu

Re: Re: ext3 on woody safe for a production machine?

2001-10-08 Thread Paolo Falcone
Alson van der Meulen wrote: >On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 11:49:45AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: >> I am a newbie ftp-administrator trying to build a new ftp-server for >> our university. >> >> Setup: >> >> Compaq Proliant 3700 >> Redhat 7.1 (currently with 2.4.9 kernel) >> Three other machines each

Re: ext3 on woody safe for a production machine?

2001-10-08 Thread David Z Maze
Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JS> I am a newbie ftp-administrator trying to build a new ftp-server for JS> our university. JS> Kernel unstability with 2.4.9-ac3, ac16 and ac18 and some of JS> unstability using reiserfs on the nbd-devices. We did not determine JS> whether the problem wa

Re: ext3 on woody safe for a production machine?

2001-10-08 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 11:49:45AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > I am a newbie ftp-administrator trying to build a new ftp-server for > our university. > > Setup: > > Compaq Proliant 3700 > Redhat 7.1 (currently with 2.4.9 kernel) > Three other machines each with 4x40g IDE hard disks. They are En

Re: Ext3... what about it?

2001-09-26 Thread Samuli Suonpaa
Adam McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 05:17:39PM +0300, Samuli Suonpaa wrote: >> Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Can it be considered some "stable" now? >> Quite. > how about mixing it with other kernel harddrive magic, like raid or > lvm? My experience w

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-26 Thread Jason Boxman
On Wednesday 26 September 2001 02:55 pm, Jason Boxman wrote: > On Wednesday 26 September 2001 03:58 am, Samuli Suonpaa wrote: > > Adam McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm curious if anyone here has any knowledge of Debian, in any > > > future release, will prompt the user to install an ex

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-26 Thread Jason Boxman
On Wednesday 26 September 2001 03:58 am, Samuli Suonpaa wrote: > Adam McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm curious if anyone here has any knowledge of Debian, in any > > future release, will prompt the user to install an ext3 filesystem > > during the initial install. > > It's already possib

Re: Ext3... what about it?

2001-09-26 Thread Adam McDaniel
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 05:17:39PM +0300, Samuli Suonpaa wrote: > Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can it be considered some "stable" now? > > Quite. how about mixing it with other kernel harddrive magic, like raid or lvm? I assume that wouldn't make any difference, but its on my lv

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Craig Dickson wrote on Wed Sep 26, 2001 um 07:36:07AM: > > separated kernel-image package. "apt-get install kernel-image.*ext3" > > shouldn't be too complicated for users, IMHO. > > Sure, if Debian wants to supply ext3-enabled kernel-image packages. Define "want". We have allready ext3

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Samuli Suonpaa wrote on Wed Sep 26, 2001 um 01:41:08PM: > > When Woody comes, there will probably be a different flavour on each > > CD-ROM. So you have 5 CDs and depending on which you insert, you > > will get one of [ default | ide | ide-pci | reiserfs | udma100-ext3 > > ] installation

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-26 Thread Craig Dickson
Eduard Bloch wrote: > Okay, but as long Ext3 is a kinde experimental, it will remain in a > separated kernel-image package. "apt-get install kernel-image.*ext3" > shouldn't be too complicated for users, IMHO. Sure, if Debian wants to supply ext3-enabled kernel-image packages. > Please learn abou

Re: Ext3... what about it?

2001-09-26 Thread Samuli Suonpaa
Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can it be considered some "stable" now? Quite. > BTW: I'm currently using ext2, and I don't switch to resierfs > because freebsd can't access it nor partitionmagic. I hope that with > ext3 these problems will go away, isn't it? They will, or at least t

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-26 Thread Samuli Suonpaa
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When Woody comes, there will probably be a different flavour on each > CD-ROM. So you have 5 CDs and depending on which you insert, you > will get one of [ default | ide | ide-pci | reiserfs | udma100-ext3 > ] installation systems. For what it's worth, rat

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Craig Dickson wrote on Tue Sep 25, 2001 um 12:45:59PM: > It's easy if you're used to building your own kernels and applying > patches to sources, but I'm sure there are a lot of less-technical users > who would prefer to use the standard kernel-image packages. If these > packages don't h

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-26 Thread Samuli Suonpaa
Adam McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm curious if anyone here has any knowledge of Debian, in any > future release, will prompt the user to install an ext3 filesystem > during the initial install. It's already possible. Install normally on an ext2-partition, compile yourself a kernel with

Re: Ext3... what about it?

2001-09-25 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > > As far as stability, 0.9.6 has given me no problems, but I also haven't > > exercised it that much. There have been a few troubles with 0.9.9. I > > wouldn't touch 0.9.9 + Linux 2.4.10 with a 10-foot

Re: Ext3... what about it?

2001-09-25 Thread Daniel T. Chen
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > As far as stability, 0.9.6 has given me no problems, but I also haven't > exercised it that much. There have been a few troubles with 0.9.9. I > wouldn't touch 0.9.9 + Linux 2.4.10 with a 10-foot stick: major VM changes > + new filesystem == bad ju

Re: Ext3... what about it?

2001-09-25 Thread Craig Dickson
Jeffrey W. Baker wrote of ext3: > As far as stability, 0.9.6 has given me no problems, but I also haven't > exercised it that much. There have been a few troubles with 0.9.9. I > wouldn't touch 0.9.9 + Linux 2.4.10 with a 10-foot stick: major VM changes > + new filesystem == bad ju ju. Agreed.

Re: Ext3... what about it?

2001-09-25 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Julio Merino wrote: > Hi all > > I'm seeing several messages about ext3 nowadays... for example this thread > about Ext3 on Install... > > I've seen it also in IRC, and some webpages... > > Can it be considered some "stable" now? Or what's happening? > > Thanks. > > BTW: I'm

Re: Ext3... what about it?

2001-09-25 Thread Daniel T. Chen
ext3 essentially is a "journaled" ext2. See http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext3/ I've been using ext3-0.9.9 on Linux-2.4.9-ac12 (+ assorted patches) for some time now, and it's _quite_ stable. --- Dan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: www.cs.unc.edu/~chenda/pubkey.gpg.asc On

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-25 Thread Craig Dickson
Eduard Bloch wrote: > Well, we do allready have patch-package for 2.2.19 and 2.4.9 and > kernel-image-2.2.19-udma100-ext3 in Woody. The stuff may not be in the > kernel source itself, but applying a patch-package is quite easy. It's easy if you're used to building your own kernels and applying pa

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-25 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Craig Dickson wrote on Tue Sep 25, 2001 um 09:12:23AM: > it's unlikely to take a major change like a new filesystem. So as far as > Debian Stable goes, I would be surprised to see ext3 built-in until the > next release after Woody, which is to say, more than a year from now. Well, we do

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-25 Thread Matthew Sackman
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:58:21AM -0600, Adam McDaniel wrote: > > is that even going to be possible?, I thought upgrading to ext3 required > a fresh partition. That would be cool though. Which reminds me, what exactly > are the real benifits to using ext3? > > i know i could rtfm, but im busy pe

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-25 Thread Craig Dickson
Adam McDaniel wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:39:35AM -0500, DvB wrote: > > Of course, once ext3 is in the standard kernel, one need only create the > > journal file (plus one or two other tweaks like disabling ext2 fsck), > > reboot (assuming even that's necessary) and, voila!, one's ext2 > >

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-25 Thread Adam McDaniel
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:39:35AM -0500, DvB wrote: > Of course, once ext3 is in the standard kernel, one need only create the > journal file (plus one or two other tweaks like disabling ext2 fsck), > reboot (assuming even that's necessary) and, voila!, one's ext2 > filesystem automagically become

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-25 Thread DvB
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adam McDaniel wrote: > > > I'm curious if anyone here has any knowledge of Debian, in any future > > release, will prompt the user to install an ext3 filesystem during > > the initial install. > > > > I haven't been paying terribly close attention

Re: ext3 on install

2001-09-25 Thread Craig Dickson
Adam McDaniel wrote: > I'm curious if anyone here has any knowledge of Debian, in any future > release, will prompt the user to install an ext3 filesystem during > the initial install. > > Ofcourse, im not 100% familair with the status of ext3, but is it even > at that stage of production right n

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-28 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Re: ext3 howto Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 02:25:39AM +1000 In reply to:John Foster Quoting John Foster([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Wayne, > > Can you expand on "make menuconfig will not run very well..." > > I've never had any problems, just

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-28 Thread Rajesh Fowkar
Raghavendra Bhat saw fit to inform me that: >[Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:49:46AM +] Rajesh Fowkar : > >> Hall Stevenson saw fit to inform me that: >> >You want to make sure that copying and pasting *most* >> >of your HOWTO from this page >> If this has hurt somebody than I apologise. >> > >No,

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-28 Thread Rajesh Fowkar
Wayne Topa saw fit to inform me that: > Subject: ext3 howto > Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:16:28PM + > >In reply to:Rajesh Fowkar > >Quoting Rajesh Fowkar([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> Hi, >> >> I have posted a mini-howto from my experiences in converting from ext2 to >> ext3 file syste

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Wayne Topa wrote on Mon Aug 27, 2001 um 09:00:06PM: > > http://www.symonds.net/~rajesh/ > > Might I suggest that you add something to Section 5. Get, Set, Go... You can get an precompiled kernel package with ext3 support from the Debian archive. debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.2.19-

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-28 Thread John Foster
Wayne, Can you expand on "make menuconfig will not run very well..." I've never had any problems, just wondering what the issues are... or am I missing something very simple? John Wayne Topa wrote: > Subject: ext3 howto > Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:16:28PM + > > In repl

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-27 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
[Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:49:46AM +] Rajesh Fowkar : > Hall Stevenson saw fit to inform me that: > >You want to make sure that copying and pasting *most* > >of your HOWTO from this page > If this has hurt somebody than I apologise. > No, not at all. It is that some guys who post, may not h

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-27 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: ext3 howto Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:16:28PM + In reply to:Rajesh Fowkar Quoting Rajesh Fowkar([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi, > > I have posted a mini-howto from my experiences in converting from ext2 to > ext3 file system on my Debian 2.2 R-3 machine. Do have a look

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-27 Thread Rajesh Fowkar
Hall Stevenson saw fit to inform me that: >> I have posted a mini-howto from my experiences in >> converting from ext2 to ext3 file system on my >> Debian 2.2 R-3 machine. Do have a look at it and let >> me know if any corrections needed or something can >> be added to make it even better. > >You

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-27 Thread ktb
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 02:52:47PM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > I have posted a mini-howto from my experiences in > > converting from ext2 to ext3 file system on my > > Debian 2.2 R-3 machine. Do have a look at it and let > > me know if any corrections needed or something can > > be added to ma

Re: Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-27 Thread Hereward Cooper
> You want to make sure that copying and pasting *most* of your > HOWTO from this page, > http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext3/ext3-usage.html, > worked okay ?? Sorry, either you copied it or you were > thinking exactly like the person who wrote the steps on the > 'official' ext3 patch site we

Re: ext3 howto

2001-08-27 Thread Hall Stevenson
> I have posted a mini-howto from my experiences in > converting from ext2 to ext3 file system on my > Debian 2.2 R-3 machine. Do have a look at it and let > me know if any corrections needed or something can > be added to make it even better. You want to make sure that copying and pasting *most*

Re: ext3 filesystem

2001-08-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon Aug 27, 2001 um 01:01:35AM: > Will the file system mount in case it is corrupted ? To run e2fsck u should > first get the prompt at least in single user mode !!! Since when we convert > from ext2 to ext3 we also do tune2fs -c0 -i0 /dev/hdx. Thus at the star

Re: ext3 filesystem

2001-08-26 Thread hsejar
Eduard Bloch saw fit to inform me that: >#include >Rajesh Fowkar wrote on Sun Aug 26, 2001 um 10:10:35PM: > >> Is there a possibility of the journal file of ext3 filesystem gettign >> corrupted ? If yes. Are there any tools to recover from such situation ? > >Remove the journal (man tune2fs), sca

Re: ext3 filesystem

2001-08-26 Thread Sean
You should be able to fsck the partition as an ext2 filesystem (if it wasn't umounted cleanly), and then use tune2fs -j to recreate the ext3 journal. Granted, I've never had occasion to actually try this, but from what I understand it should work. Sean On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 22:10:35 + Rajesh

Re: ext3 filesystem

2001-08-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Rajesh Fowkar wrote on Sun Aug 26, 2001 um 10:10:35PM: > Is there a possibility of the journal file of ext3 filesystem gettign > corrupted ? If yes. Are there any tools to recover from such situation ? Remove the journal (man tune2fs), scan the filesystem (man e2fsck) and rebuild the jo

Re: ext3 and availability

2000-06-28 Thread Ben Collins
> numerous hacks in place to allow you to use it currently. For instance the > journal the FS uses must be created by hand and is an actual file in the OS. > This allows them to debug the fs, but also allows an accidental rm to fry all > of your journal. That's what "chattr +i " is for :) Also,

RE: ext3 and availability

2000-06-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 28-Jun-2000 Sven Burgener wrote: > Hi debs > > How far is the development of ext3? Today, at linux-conference.ch some > guy from RH said he was using ext3 on his notebook right then. Apparently > the main developer of both ext2 and ext3 works also for RH. > > So, I wanted to know whether anyo

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