On 16/07/15 05:19 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
On 17/07/2015, Frank McCormick wrote:
For example, how to change the font and font size in the panel and the
title bars of windows; as an example, the font for the names of the
menu's, in the panel, is too small, making it difficult to read.
Again
On 17/07/2015, Frank McCormick wrote:
>>
>> For example, how to change the font and font size in the panel and the
>> title bars of windows; as an example, the font for the names of the
>> menu's, in the panel, is too small, making it difficult to read.
>
>Again, as far as I know these are fu
On 17/07/2015, Frank McCormick wrote:
>>
>> Also, whether a screensaver is available, like the screensaver in
>> gnome 2, that allows for the screensaver to be directed (for
>> displaying stuff while the screen is taken over by the screensaver) to
>> the Pictures directory, rather than one of the
On 16/07/15 12:35 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
On 15/07/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
On 04/07/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote:
On 2015-06-22, Bret Busby wrote:
[...]
Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?
Yes it is.
And, does it have all of thev functionality of gnome 2,
On Thursday 16 July 2015 17:35:06 Bret Busby wrote:
> On 15/07/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> > On 04/07/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> >> On 2015-06-22, Bret Busby wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?
> >>
> >> Yes it is.
> >>
> >>> And
On 15/07/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 04/07/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2015-06-22, Bret Busby wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?
>>
>> Yes it is.
>>
>>>
>>> And, does it have all of thev functionality of gnome 2, including (but
>>
On 04/07/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2015-06-22, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?
>
> Yes it is.
>
>>
>> And, does it have all of thev functionality of gnome 2, including (but
>> not limited to) allowing the panel to be posi
On 2015-06-23, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 23/06/2015, Don Armstrong wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>>> But all of this digression into discussing the mate desktop
>>> environment stll does not get either Debian 6 or 7 working with either
>>> the intel, or the nvidia, graphics device
On 2015-06-22, Bret Busby wrote:
[...]
> Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?
Yes it is.
>
> And, does it have all of thev functionality of gnome 2, including (but
> not limited to) allowing the panel to be positioned along the bottom
> of the screen, and, incl
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> It is unfortunate that the direction that this thread has now taken,
> appears to indicate that Debian versions, apart from ths "stable"
> version, are not supported.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> And so is the particular computer, now, "old", so
On 23/06/2015, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>> But all of this digression into discussing the mate desktop
>> environment stll does not get either Debian 6 or 7 working with either
>> the intel, or the nvidia, graphics device, in the Acer V3-772G, to
>> drive the e
On 23/06/2015, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>> But all of this digression into discussing the mate desktop
>> environment stll does not get either Debian 6 or 7 working with either
>> the intel, or the nvidia, graphics device, in the Acer V3-772G, to
>> drive the e
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> But all of this digression into discussing the mate desktop
> environment stll does not get either Debian 6 or 7 working with either
> the intel, or the nvidia, graphics device, in the Acer V3-772G, to
> drive the external monitor.
Squeeze and Wheezy are ol
On 23/06/2015, Martin Read wrote:
> On 22/06/15 18:01, Bret Busby wrote:
>> The names of the applications are also in spanish.
>>
>> Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?
>
> Speaking as a native speaker of English: Yes.
>
> What's wrong with using languages other t
On 22/06/15 18:01, Bret Busby wrote:
The names of the applications are also in spanish.
Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?
Speaking as a native speaker of English: Yes.
What's wrong with using languages other than English to name programs?
The last program
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> The names of the applications are also in spanish.
They're just names. You're using a DE with a mouse and icons; the names
don't really matter that much.
> Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english?
Yes. Commands and application
On 23/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> But you are just a troll
Me a troll?
Is it me who started flaming a list subscriber who was trying to get
something working in Debian?
Strange - I thought that an objective of this list, was to help people
who can not get things working in Debian, rather tha
On 23/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 22 June 2015 17:25:38 Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> > On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
>> >> mate, apart from being in spanish,
>> >
>> > codswallop!
>> >
>> > Lisi
>>
>> At
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
On Monday 22 June 2015 17:25:38 Bret Busby wrote:
> On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
> >> mate, apart from being in spanish,
> >
> > codswallop!
> >
> > Lisi
>
> At
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software)
> is
>
> "
> MATE (/mɑːteɪ/;
On Monday 22 June 2015 17:25:38 Bret Busby wrote:
> On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
> >> mate, apart from being in spanish,
> >
> > codswallop!
> >
> > Lisi
>
> At
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software)
> is
>
> "
> MATE (/mɑːteɪ/;
On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
>> mate, apart from being in spanish,
>
> codswallop!
>
> Lisi
>
At
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software)
is
"
MATE (/mɑːteɪ/; Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmate]) is a desktop
environment forked from the
On 06/20/2015 05:03 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:08:53 Bret Busby wrote:
I understand that mate is in spanish,
As I said, codswallop. Why don't you look at it before dismissing it?
Lisi
Lisi. What ever happened to Karl?? :) Ric
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On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:08:53 Bret Busby wrote:
> I understand that mate is in spanish,
As I said, codswallop. Why don't you look at it before dismissing it?
Lisi
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On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote:
> mate, apart from being in spanish,
codswallop!
Lisi
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On 20/06/2015, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 01:45:42 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> On 20/06/2015, Reco wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > And then again - if Ubuntu satisfies your needs, why suffer with Debian
>> > oldstable?
>> >
>>
>> As should be shown by examining the full headers of this an
On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 19 June 2015 18:49:38 Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> > On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote:
>> >> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is
>> >> "released" and decreed stable, development o
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>>
> Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be
> helpful, just to see what your system detects, and how they differ.
>
"
-Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> > How do you determine that it does
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
>>> Bret Busby wrote:
I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bu
On 06/19/2015 05:58 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
ii nvidia-prime0.5~hybrid0.0.3
Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime
Google this, for the love of $DEITY$
http://askubuntu.com/questions/363775/what-is-the-use-of-nvidia-prime
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On 06/19/2015 02:07 PM, Reco wrote:
I would rather use Debian 6, as it has the superior interface, to the
later Debian versions, and to Ubuntu, but, to use Debian 6, I have to
use a lesser computer.
Ah, I get it now. So, layman's terms put aside, you like to use GNOME2
and not GNOME3. And that
On 06/19/2015 02:51 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
No, it wouldn't solve the problem. He can get Ubuntu going to his
satisfaction, but he cannot get Debian going to his satisfaction.
...running Squeeze, a 5 year old OS, while expecting it will be
maintained at Wheezy/Jessie level. We've beaten that h
On 06/19/2015 12:23 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is
"released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its
packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only
bugfix
On Friday 19 June 2015 19:40:11 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:31:56 +0100
>
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 19 June 2015 18:49:38 Bret Busby wrote:
> > > On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote:
> > > >> Unfortunately, it appears
Hi.
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:31:56 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 19 June 2015 18:49:38 Bret Busby wrote:
> > On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote:
> > >> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is
> > >> "released" an
On Friday 19 June 2015 18:49:38 Bret Busby wrote:
> On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is
> >> "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its
> >> packages, ce
Hi.
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 01:45:42 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 20/06/2015, Reco wrote:
>
> >
> > And then again - if Ubuntu satisfies your needs, why suffer with Debian
> > oldstable?
> >
>
> As should be shown by examining the full headers of this and other
> messages not explicitly sent fro
On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote:
>> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is
>> "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its
>> packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only
>> bug
On 20/06/2015, Reco wrote:
>
> And then again - if Ubuntu satisfies your needs, why suffer with Debian
> oldstable?
>
As should be shown by examining the full headers of this and other
messages not explicitly sent from the Debian installations, I am using
Ubuntu 12.04, except where necessary for
On 20/06/2015, Curt wrote:
> On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby wrote:
>>>
>>> Didn't we already go through this once with you in a long, protracted,
>>> confused and confusing thread, the exact same issue, not too long ago?
>>
>> As I have, I believe, previously mentioned, I have been trying for
>> about
On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby wrote:
>>
>> Didn't we already go through this once with you in a long, protracted,
>> confused and confusing thread, the exact same issue, not too long ago?
>
> As I have, I believe, previously mentioned, I have been trying for
> about two years, now, to get Debian worki
Hi.
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 23:54:12 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> As I have, I believe, previously mentioned, I have been trying for
> about two years, now, to get Debian working on this computer, so that
> it can work with the external monitor.
>
> The status of Debian Linux, with the computer, is t
On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote:
> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is
> "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its
> packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only
> bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:50:17 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> I have attached a copy of the file from the Debian 6 installation.
>
> It's not loading neither the nouveau nor the nvidia driver, is one of
> them correctly installed, and is the kernel module loaded?
On 19/06/2015, Curt wrote:
> On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby wrote:
>>
>> Sorry - I had read the whole of the post, and had tried to respond to
>> it in modularised progressive steps, and when I got down to that part,
>> I had forgotten the content of the first paragraph.
>
> Didn't we already go throu
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:50:17 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> I have attached a copy of the file from the Debian 6 installation.
It's not loading neither the nouveau nor the nvidia driver, is one of
them correctly installed, and is the kernel module loaded?
For Squeeze, I simply do not know. There mig
On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> Sorry - I had read the whole of the post, and had tried to respond to
> it in modularised progressive steps, and when I got down to that part,
> I had forgotten the content of the first paragraph.
Didn't we already go through this once with you in a long, prot
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800
>>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>>
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can
> read
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800
>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>>> > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can
>>> > read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easi
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>
>>> > Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be
>>> > helpful, just to see what your system detects, and how they differ.
>>> >
>>>
>>> "
>>> -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ cat Xorg.0.log
>>> cat: Xorg.0.log: No suc
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
>>> Bret Busby wrote:
I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bu
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>> > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can
>> > read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run
>> > "xrandr" (when both sc
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>> > Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be
>> > helpful, just to see what your system detects, and how they differ.
>> >
>>
>> "
>> -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ cat Xorg.0.log
>> cat: Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory
>> "
>
> If you read the
On 2015-06-19, Ric Moore wrote:
>
> "Check and see if you have the tool 'intel-virtual-output' installed.
> This is included in 'xf86-video-intel' =< v2.99, aprox date released is
> 22/Dec/2014
>
"xf86-video-intel" doesn't appear to be a Debian package. I can only find it
here:
http://www.x.or
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can
> > read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run
> > "xrandr" (when both screens are connected) and see what it detects.
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
>> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
>> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that instal
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
>>> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
>>> installation,
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
>> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
>> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that instal
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
>>> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
>>> installation,
On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 06/19/2015 12:15 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore wrote:
>>> On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:
>>>
There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it
won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
>> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
>> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that instal
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the
> Debian 7 installation als
On 06/19/2015 12:15 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore wrote:
On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:
There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it
won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it from source? At
this point that may be your only ch
On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:
>
>> There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it
>> won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it from source? At
>> this point that may be your only chance. If only you could do that wi
On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:
There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it
won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it from source? At
this point that may be your only chance. If only you could do that with
the drivers...
It might also be that it
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:07:47 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 18/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> > As to your problem with bumblebee, I think Optimus support is
> > something that is fairly recent, and might well have come after
> > Squeeze. Maybe you will find it in backports?
> >
>
>
On 18/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
>
> As to your problem with bumblebee, I think Optimus support is something
> that is fairly recent, and might well have come after Squeeze. Maybe
> you will find it in backports?
>
A problem is that, and, I am not sure whether I indicated this in a
previous
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:54:51 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 16/06/2015, Ric Moore wrote:
> > On 06/15/2015 12:39 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
> >
> >> Get:1 http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze/non-free
> >> nvidia-kernel-dkms amd64 195.36.31-6squeeze2 [7,138 kB]
> >> Fetched 7,138 kB in 12s (575 kB/s)
On 16/06/2015, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 06/15/2015 12:39 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> Get:1 http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze/non-free
>> nvidia-kernel-dkms amd64 195.36.31-6squeeze2 [7,138 kB]
>> Fetched 7,138 kB in 12s (575 kB/s)
>> Selecting previously deselected package nvidia-kernel-dkms.
>>
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