Re: Erro package manager

2010-03-03 Thread Gunther Furtado
Olá, Em 3 de março de 2010 15:13, EURO euri...@gmail.com escreveu: Opa pessoal, Segue os anexos dos erros com o update manager que nao havia postado. Segundo [1], o repositório que você está usando está correto. Aparentemente, está fora do ar no momento. Você pode retirar estas entradas da

Re: Erro package manager

2010-03-03 Thread EURO
OK...acho que entendi. Vc diz as preferencias do sources.list. Acredito que o update manager busca as autalizacoes conforme as diretivas apontadas no arquivo sources.list. Nao e isso? Obrigadao pela atencao Euro 2010/3/3 Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com Olá, Em 3 de março de 2010

Re: Erro package manager

2010-03-03 Thread Gunther Furtado
Em 3 de março de 2010 16:20, EURO euri...@gmail.com escreveu: OK...acho que entendi. Vc diz as preferencias do sources.list. Acredito que o update manager busca as autalizacoes conforme as diretivas apontadas no arquivo sources.list. Nao e isso? Espero que sim!!! Obrigadao pela atencao

Re: Erro package manager

2010-03-03 Thread EURO
Opa... o meu sources.list traz: * # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.3 _Lenny_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20090906-11:59]/ lenny main # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.3 _Lenny_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20090906-11:59]/ lenny main

Re: Erro package manager

2010-03-03 Thread Gunther Furtado
Em 3 de março de 2010 16:25, EURO euri...@gmail.com escreveu: Opa... o meu sources.list traz: [...] Dê uma olhada em http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Acho que muitas das suas dúvidas estão respondidas lá. Abraço, -- ...agora, só nos sobrou o futuro..., visto em www.manuchao.net

Re: Erro package manager

2010-03-03 Thread Gunther Furtado
Mais em: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.pt-br.html [...] -- ...agora, só nos sobrou o futuro..., visto em www.manuchao.net Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Texlive Package Manager (tlmgr) and Debian : Where is tlmgr package menager?

2010-02-19 Thread ahmet nurlu
Dear List, I am using debian/testing repository for installing texlive. The current version of Texlive is texlive/testing uptodate 2009-7. But the package menager program 'Tlmgr' doesn't show up in my system. I have used a source compiled mpm package manager which is based on miktex. I

Unable to run snaptic package manager or apt-get

2008-07-29 Thread Young, Loren R SGT NG NG NGB
Sirs/Madam, I attempted to download Ultimatix and now I am unable to use any of my package managers to install programs. I have tried several apt-get commands and receive the following error message: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock -open 13 permission denied. How might I

Re: Unable to run snaptic package manager or apt-get

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 05:00:02PM +0300, Young, Loren R SGT NG NG NGB [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I attempted to download Ultimatix and now I am unable to use any of my package managers to install programs. I have tried several apt-get commands and receive the following error

Re: Using Debian Package Manager

2007-07-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-06-25 11:50:13, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just installed Debian.? I'm wondering about the Synaptic Package Manager.? As I've never used a GUI for Linux before, I will need to get used to how things work. I wanted to install a motherboard monitor.? I found one in the list, xmbmon

Re: Using Debian Package Manager

2007-06-26 Thread Marc Shapiro
BartlebyScrivener wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to install a motherboard monitor.? I found one in the list, xmbmon, and chose to install it.? It said installation complete.? However, I have no idea how to find it and run it.? It's not showing up in the

Using Debian Package Manager

2007-06-25 Thread russ421
I just installed Debian.? I'm wondering about the Synaptic Package Manager.? As I've never used a GUI for Linux before, I will need to get used to how things work. I wanted to install a motherboard monitor.? I found one in the list, xmbmon, and chose to install it.? It said installation

Re: Using Debian Package Manager

2007-06-25 Thread Pol Hallen
-get install xmbmon and dpkg -L xmbmon to see where are the package of files are installed in your os. ok, normally every /bin/files are executable files that u can run example: /bin/./df So basically I'm curious about that package manager.? Once installed, are icons created anywhere to run them

Re: Using Debian Package Manager

2007-06-25 Thread Keith Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed Debian. I'm wondering about the Synaptic Package Manager. As I've never used a GUI for Linux before, I will need to get used to how things work. [stuff deleted] So basically I'm curious about that package manager. Once installed, are icons

Re: Using Debian Package Manager

2007-06-25 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Jun 25, 11:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to install a motherboard monitor.? I found one in the list, xmbmon, and chose to install it.? It said installation complete.? However, I have no idea how to find it and run it.? It's not showing up in the applications list anywhere.

Re: Using Debian Package Manager

2007-06-25 Thread Jochen Schulz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just installed Debian. I'm wondering about the Synaptic Package Manager. As I've never used a GUI for Linux before, I will need to get used to how things work. If you already have experience in using the command line, nothing stops you from keeping to use it. In many

Re: Using Debian Package Manager

2007-06-25 Thread Ken Irving
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wanted to install a motherboard monitor. I found one in the list, xmbmon, and chose to install it. It said installation complete. However, I have no idea how to find it and run it. It's not showing up in the applications list anywhere. You can see the

Re: Using Debian Package Manager

2007-06-25 Thread Ken Irving
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:49:43AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wanted to install a motherboard monitor. I found one in the list, xmbmon, and chose to install it. It said installation complete. However, I have no idea how to find it and run it. It's not

Re: user based package manager?

2007-03-28 Thread Wim De Smet
On 3/18/07, Jeff Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an removing method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under

Re: user based package manager?

2007-03-28 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Wim De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an removing method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under

Re: user based package manager?

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-19 07:51:28, schrieb Jeff Zhang: dpkg/apt/aptitude are designed to install *system* packages. If you want to install user-specific packages, build from source. Yes, it is what I'm mean about things after building and installing. You need to reverse engineer the debhelper, e.g.

Re: user based package manager?

2007-03-19 Thread Adam Porter
Jeff Zhang wrote: Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an removing method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their home location

Re: user based package manager?

2007-03-19 Thread Jeff Zhang
On 3/19/07, Adam Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Zhang wrote: Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an removing method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager that can

user based package manager?

2007-03-18 Thread Jeff Zhang
Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an removing method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their home location? By which the software can

Re: user based package manager?

2007-03-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/18/07 10:48, Jeff Zhang wrote: Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an removing method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager

Re: user based package manager?

2007-03-18 Thread Jeff Zhang
method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their home location? By which the software can be cleanly purged and so on. Or some extensions of checkinstall to make an simple one. dpkg/apt/aptitude are designed to install *system* packages. If you

Update and Package manager unresponsive

2006-07-08 Thread Stephen Fahey
or start Synaptic package Manager. I think the issue is I'm not being asked for Administrator password, access to Root Terminal does not get a response. Running :~$ apt-get check in Terminal returns E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock

Re: Update and Package manager unresponsive

2006-07-08 Thread Bob Smither
, which I didn't write down. I now cannot open Update manager or start Synaptic package Manager. I think the issue is I'm not being asked for Administrator password, access to Root Terminal does not get a response. Not sure about the above, but ... Running :~$ apt-get check in Terminal

Re: Update and Package manager unresponsive

2006-07-08 Thread Robin Putters
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 14:20 +0100, Stephen Fahey wrote: I now cannot open Update manager or start Synaptic package Manager. I think the issue is I'm not being asked for Administrator password, access to Root Terminal does not get a response. Running :~$ apt-get check in Terminal returns

Re: Update and Package manager unresponsive

2006-07-08 Thread Stephen Fahey
Robin Putters wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 14:20 +0100, Stephen Fahey wrote: I now cannot open Update manager or start Synaptic package Manager. I think the issue is I'm not being asked for Administrator password, access to Root Terminal does not get a response. Running

Re: Update and Package manager unresponsive

2006-07-08 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
happened in your case is that one of your apt-get/synaptic/aptitude sessions were stopped abruptly. So the lock file was not deleted. you can kill the corresponding apt-get/synaptic/aptitude process by doing pkill apt-get as root. Substitude apt-get with your package manager. After

Re: Update and Package manager unresponsive

2006-07-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 04:53:31PM +0100, Stephen Fahey wrote: Robin Putters wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 14:20 +0100, Stephen Fahey wrote: I now cannot open Update manager or start Synaptic package Manager. I think the issue is I'm not being asked for Administrator password, access

Re: Update and Package manager unresponsive

2006-07-08 Thread Hans van Middendorp
in an error message, which I didn't write down. I now cannot open Update manager or start Synaptic package Manager. I think the issue is I'm not being asked for Administrator password, access to Root Terminal does not get a response. Running :~$ apt-get check in Terminal returns E: Could

smart package manager

2006-06-07 Thread Joseph Smidt
There is talk about the smart package manager. It claims it will handle package managing better than APT. Is this true or propaganda? If it is true, will there be a future switch from APT to this SMART? Could it be a potential etch +1 goal? Just wondering. Joseph Smidt

Re: smart package manager

2006-06-07 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:20:43PM -0600 or thereabouts, Joseph Smidt wrote: There is talk about the smart package manager. It claims it will handle package managing better than APT. Is this true or propaganda? If it is true, will there be a future switch from APT to this SMART? Could

Re: smart package manager

2006-06-07 Thread Linas Žvirblis
There is talk about the smart package manager. It claims it will handle package managing better than APT. Is this true or propaganda? If it is true, will there be a future switch from APT to this SMART? Could it be a potential etch +1 goal? Just wondering. Are you referring to Aptitude

Re: smart package manager

2006-06-07 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:30:34 -0400, Stephen wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:20:43PM -0600 or thereabouts, Joseph Smidt wrote: There is talk about the smart package manager. It claims it will handle package managing better than APT. Is this true or propaganda? If it is true

Fwd: Debian Package Manager wanted

2006-05-23 Thread Zeki Çatav
Merhaba, Debian grubunda bu boyutta bir proje için vakit ayırabilecek arkadaş var mı? -- Yönlendirilmiş İleti -- Subject: Debian Package Manager wanted Date: Pts 22 May 2006 21:28 From: Karsten Hilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian-Med debian-med@lists.debian.org Hi all, we

synaptic package manager problem

2006-05-11 Thread Surachai Locharoen
I use gnome2.14. and I install gnopernicus. after install it. I want to remove it. but I can't remove it. Synaptic is close itself each time I press apply button. This is happen to all module when I want to remove. I can't press apply button because It will close How to correct this problem? Kan

Re: synaptic package manager problem

2006-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:19:01PM +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote: I use gnome2.14. and I install gnopernicus. after install it. I want to remove it. but I can't remove it. Synaptic is close itself each time I press apply button. This is happen to all module when I want to remove. I can't

Re: synaptic package manager problem

2006-05-11 Thread Surachai Locharoen
The same problem as me http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general/88419 On พฤ., 2006-05-11 at 08:17 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:19:01PM +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote: I use gnome2.14. and I install gnopernicus. after install it. I want

Re: package manager question

2006-02-03 Thread Fabiana Jorge
Ok, I'll do that.Thanks.

Re: package manager question

2006-02-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:09:59 + Fabiana Jorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I'll do that. Thanks. And don't forget to install some xfonts. Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

package manager question

2006-02-02 Thread Fabiana Jorge
Hello, I've been reading some stuff about apt, dpkg and I wonder if it is possible to have more control on package's dependencies. Is there other package managers for debian that are able to support it? I've found this at www.debian.org As you can see in the above example, APT also takes care

Re: package manager question

2006-02-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:24:31 + Fabiana Jorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been reading some stuff about apt, dpkg and I wonder if it is possible to have more control on package's dependencies. Is there other package managers for debian that are able to support it?

Re: package manager question

2006-02-02 Thread Linas Zvirblis
force this with dpkg, but this can instantly break your entire system. You have been warned. What you really need is aptitude, the most powerful package manager on Earth. Once you learn it, you will wonder how you have ever lived without it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: package manager question

2006-02-02 Thread Christopher Davis
Fabiana Jorge wrote: Hello, I've been reading some stuff about apt, dpkg and I wonder if it is possible to have more control on package's dependencies. Is there other package managers for debian that are able to support it? I've found this at www.debian.org As you can see

Re: package manager question

2006-02-02 Thread Fabiana Jorge
hmm... I see. So for example, I wanted to install x-window-system, and as I don't have a printer I wouldn't need xlibprint and xlibprint-common (something like that). If it's not safe to remove those packages after the installation, is there a way not to install them?Thank you all for your time.

Re: package manager question

2006-02-02 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 01:05:50AM +, Fabiana Jorge wrote: hmm... I see. So for example, I wanted to install x-window-system, and as I don't have a printer I wouldn't need xlibprint and xlibprint-common (something like that). If it's not safe to remove those packages after the

Re: package manager question

2006-02-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 01:05:50 + Fabiana Jorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm... I see. So for example, I wanted to install x-window-system, and as I don't have a printer I wouldn't need xlibprint and xlibprint-common (something like that). If it's not safe to remove those packages after the

Synaptic Package Manager read failure

2005-10-18 Thread J Merritt
I was attempting to work with the repository list in Synaptic. After disabling the two Sarge DVD entries (contrib main), re-enabling them, and reloading the deb list, I keep getting an error message that won't go away. If I recheck the two entries on, it still produces the same message, which is:

Re: Synaptic Package Manager read failure

2005-10-18 Thread gary
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 17:00 -0700, J Merritt wrote: I was attempting to work with the repository list in Synaptic. After disabling the two Sarge DVD entries (contrib main), re-enabling them, and reloading the deb list, I keep getting an error message that won't go away. If I recheck the two

Re: Synaptic Package Manager read failure

2005-10-18 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
J Merritt wrote: I was attempting to work with the repository list in Synaptic. After disabling the two Sarge DVD entries (contrib main), re-enabling them, and reloading the deb list, I keep getting an error message that won't go away. If I recheck the two entries on, it still produces the

Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

2005-10-06 Thread Jeremy Merritt
I started using Debian in the past 2 months after using another Linux distro for a long time. The other distro relies on RPM for its package management, with the consequence of the user having to go through "dependency hell" on a regular basis. I have been amazed at the size of the Synaptic

Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

2005-10-06 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Jeremy Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What makes Synaptic different from RPM in concept? The question you're really asking is: What makes .deb different from .rpm in concept. ... because Synaptic is just a GUI-frontend. The tools behind it (dpkg, and friends) do all the real work.

Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

2005-10-06 Thread Steve Block
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 05:39:43PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: --- Jeremy Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What makes Synaptic different from RPM in concept? The question you're really asking is: What makes .deb different from .rpm in concept. ... because Synaptic is just a GUI-frontend.

Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

2005-10-06 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:35:37AM -0700, Jeremy Merritt wrote: I started using Debian in the past 2 months after using another Linux distro for a long time. The other distro relies on RPM for its package management, with the consequence of the user having to go through dependency hell on a

Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

2005-10-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:35:37AM -0700, Jeremy Merritt wrote: I started using Debian in the past 2 months after using another Linux distro for a long time. The other distro relies on RPM for its package management, with the consequence of the user having to go through dependency hell on a

Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

2005-10-06 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:35 -0700, Jeremy Merritt wrote: What makes Synaptic different from RPM in concept? Like they said, it's the difference between .rpm's and .deb's, and the package managers. They both contain the install location(s) and a list of dependencies. The big difference is that

Re: Ayuda con Synaptic Package Manager

2005-09-08 Thread Ricardo Frydman Eureka!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ariel Herrera wrote: Hola listeros tengo un problemilla que no logro resolver. Estoy detras un proxy y no puedo llegar a un repositorio x al cual se puedo llegar delante de dicho proxy. El problema creo esté en la configuración del apt, no tenía

Ayuda con Synaptic Package Manager

2005-09-07 Thread Ariel Herrera
Hola listeros tengo un problemilla que no logro resolver. Estoy detras un proxy y no puedo llegar a un repositorio x al cual se puedo llegar delante de dicho proxy. El problema creo esté en la configuración del apt, no tenía el file apt.config, luego lo creé coloqué allí Adquaire::http::Proxy

Re: Newbie selecting package manager

2005-07-07 Thread Jules Dubois
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 21:42, Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm leaning toward using apt (and maybe occasionally using Synaptic) rather then Aptitude. ITYM: apt-get. apt-get (and its cohorts), Synaptic, and aptitude are all based on the Advanced Package Tool,

Re: Newbie selecting package manager

2005-07-07 Thread Jeffrin Jose
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 21:42 -0600, Elmer E. Dow wrote: After having used Red Hat 9 and Knoppix (hard disk install), I installed Sarge a while ago and plan to stick with it. All support to you. Now I need to select a package manager to use that fits my needs. My laptop is used for office

Re: Newbie selecting package manager

2005-07-07 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Elmer E. Dow wrote: After having used Red Hat 9 and Knoppix (hard disk install), I installed Sarge a while ago and plan to stick with it. Now I need to select a package manager to use that fits my needs. My laptop is used for office applications (creating documents, some graphics

Newbie selecting package manager

2005-07-06 Thread Elmer E. Dow
After having used Red Hat 9 and Knoppix (hard disk install), I installed Sarge a while ago and plan to stick with it. Now I need to select a package manager to use that fits my needs. My laptop is used for office applications (creating documents, some graphics, presentation, browsing, e-mail

Re: Package manager tar.gz apps

2004-01-06 Thread David Z Maze
that. :-) If you're going to install things from source, do it in a place not controlled by the package manager, such as /usr/local or $HOME. In some cases you can leave the Debian version installed but just not use it; in other cases (MTAs come to mind) you can use the equivs package to create an empty

Package manager tar.gz apps

2004-01-05 Thread Alphonse Ogulla
Just wondering, what happens to the system when you remove an installed package or component of a package and replace/update with a tar.gz compiled from source application? Can this break the system -- leading to dependancy issues? I'm asking because I had to install module-init-tools,

Re: Package manager tar.gz apps

2004-01-05 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
system's consistency. Now the package manager database does not match actual contents of your system. So expect different failures while trying to use package management tools. If you really really need to install software in non-deb format, consider making a deb package youself. It is not difficult

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-14 Thread Joe Rhett
So much for the topic at hand... in general: fear not. It's part of the Linux learning process that one learns where to pick up information. man, info, /usr/share/doc/, www... google is your friend, but google is not the be-all and end-all of everything. Especially if you what you're looking

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-14 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:14, Joe Rhett wrote: So much for the topic at hand... in general: fear not. It's part of the Linux learning process that one learns where to pick up information. man, info, /usr/share/doc/, www... google is your friend, but google is not the be-all and end-all of

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-14 Thread Joe Rhett
Since this post has no technical merits, I separated it out. I've been using Linux since 0.7x kernels, so you can skip the patronizing. Last time I checked, some of my patches were still in the driver sources for various adapters. Though I must say I'm extremely curious how you managed to

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-14 Thread Joe Rhett
The point I was making is that most of us have better things to do than search more than 5 pages of google hits. If the 'right places' to get Debian applications were listed on the debian homepages, this wouldn't be necessary. (more on this below) All of the right places already ARE

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:24:25 -0800, Joe Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The point I was making is that most of us have better things to do than search more than 5 pages of google hits. If the 'right places' to get Debian applications were listed on the

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-13 Thread Joe Rhett
Please, stop complaining, and do your research Actually, your comments here are demonstrating just how inadequate the apt-get documentation is. Because I read through it a dozen times -- and was already making notes to suggest cleaning it up -- and I never saw anything about the 'policy'

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-13 Thread Joe Rhett
is probably a good thing for kernels. Use a real package manager (not apt-get) which shows you new packages. The really funny thing about this whole topic is that we've now come full circle. Read the subject line. I am asking what package manager I should use, because apt-get doesn't seem to handle

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-13 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 03:56, Joe Rhett wrote: Use a real package manager (not apt-get) which shows you new packages. The really funny thing about this whole topic is that we've now come full circle. Read the subject line. Well, apt-get simply is no package manager. At least

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-06 Thread Joe Rhett
Try adding this line to your /etc/apt/apt.conf file and see if you get better results with your 'apt-get update': APT::Default-Release testing; That's unnecessary if you only have one release listed in /etc/apt/sources.list (which is the configuration I'd strongly recommend) and may

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-06 Thread Joe Rhett
You seem to have a fairly big misconception here: Adding testing to the sources.list and doing an apt-get update and upgrade will _not_ reflect how many packages are in testing. Not by any stretch. First off, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade are very different: upgrade will install

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-06 Thread Joe Rhett
Ah, that would explain your confusion. 'apt-get upgrade' isn't what you want, since as documented in the apt-get(8) man page it will not install new packages. In particular, if you attempt to use 'apt-get upgrade' to upgrade from stable to testing, it will refuse to upgrade libc6 because of

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-06 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:46:30AM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: HOWEVER, both of these commands are starting from the goal of upgrading to newer versions of packages you _already_ have installed. It gives you no idea what _else_ might be included in sarge. That's exactly what I want. Can

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-06 Thread Colin Watson
automatically, which is probably a good thing for kernels. Use a real package manager (not apt-get) which shows you new packages. Stuff that has been safe and stable within Sid for over a year now (according to the package pages) still isn't appearing in testing. Examples, please? I'd

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:19:47AM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:41:50PM -0600, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: Try adding this line to your /etc/apt/apt.conf file and see if you get better results with your 'apt-get update': APT::Default-Release

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:41:50PM -0600, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: From: Joe Rhett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me rephrase. Either the US mirrors are screwed, or there is less than a dozen packages in testing. Because adding testing to the sources list and doing an apt-get update

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-05 Thread Richard Kimber
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:47:54 + Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually use Debian testing as a desktop, eight hours a day, five days a week. It works great. Moi aussi. But there are some kde-related packages that just won't install - e.g. quanta, which I wanted to have a look at.

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Simon Tod
--- Joe Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, this is probably a bonehead user question but I'm just getting used to Debian. Not normally a bonehead :-( I would like/prefer to run 'stable'. Debian/Woody installed on my laptop perfectly fine. Wireless/WEP, IPsec, X all up and running

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Joe Rhett
Joe wrote: So I am writing here in hopes I'm overlooking something. Please, tell me how one can update just one package and its dependancies, without doing a full-on conversion from Woody to unstable? If a single package forces one to upgrade completely to unstable branch, then

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 02:35, Joe Rhett wrote: --snip-- 1. Set the unstable archives to a higher preference in /etc/apt/preferences 2. apt-get upgrade to update the entire lot? ... or am I missing a step? That's about it. Simple really. :) I find it kindof sad that testing really

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Joe Rhett
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 02:35, Joe Rhett wrote: I find it kindof sad that testing really doesn't appear to have any function any longer. One would like to run from testing and leave unstable for the well, unstable stuff. But I haven't really found much in testing, which means one must be

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 02:00:14AM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:23:48AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: Well, in my experience, testing is most useful immediately following a new stable release, and least useful immediately preceding a new stable release. If you were to

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Kimber
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:21:44 + Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not true. KDE 3 went in just a few days ago (albeit somewhat broken for now) Indeed. What would be really helpful would be if there was some easy-to-find running guidance on what testing users should do - like

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
breakage then somebody usually posts to mailing lists about it; if it's just package conflicts and things, then, well, you should pay attention to what the package manager says it's going to remove and say no if it looks mad. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Kimber
the package manager says it's going to remove and say no if it looks mad. OK. Thanks. This may be a stupid question, but has consideration been given to having a 'holding area' between testing and stable to which stuff gets moved only when there are no breakages? - Richard. -- Richard Kimber http

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
to mailing lists about it; if it's just package conflicts and things, then, well, you should pay attention to what the package manager says it's going to remove and say no if it looks mad. OK. Thanks. This may be a stupid question, but has consideration been given to having a 'holding area

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Joe Rhett
If testing is what is supposed to be the next release, then it seems pointless to even bother. Testing still has Mozilla 1.0. That's what, 2 years old? We're working on it, but the mozilla package is buggy, which makes it difficult to make the testing management scripts happy with it.

RE: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
-Original Message- From: Joe Rhett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alex Malinovich Subject: Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades? Let me rephrase. Either the US mirrors are screwed

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:51:45PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: If testing is what is supposed to be the next release, then it seems pointless to even bother. Testing still has Mozilla 1.0. That's what, 2 years old? We're working on it, but the mozilla package is buggy, which makes it

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:51:45PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: Colin Watson wrote: Joe Rhett wrote: If testing is what is supposed to be the next release, then it seems pointless to even bother. Testing still has Mozilla 1.0. That's what, 2 years old? We're working on it, but the

What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-03 Thread Joe Rhett
Okay, this is probably a bonehead user question but I'm just getting used to Debian. Not normally a bonehead :-( I would like/prefer to run 'stable'. Debian/Woody installed on my laptop perfectly fine. Wireless/WEP, IPsec, X all up and running SWEET. Unfortunately, the stable browser is

Package Manager

2002-09-11 Thread Hoffice-Rafael Puyau
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Estou rodando a R3 do Debian e o meu package manager não está abrindo Clico em cima dele e ele fica como se estive compilando e nada. Não consigo instalar pacotes.. Gostaria de saber se tem como resolver esse problema.. Grato, Rafael

Package Manager doesnt start.....

2002-09-11 Thread Hoffice-Rafael Puyau
Dear All, I can't open the package manager on Linux Under Kde I click on Package Manager Link but nothing appears.. So how can I fix this problem. I try to log with Gnome but the problem persist. I need help ! Tks, Rafael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

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