Re: [VOTE] new Cocoon PMC chair

2004-06-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Here's my +1 for - Sylvain Wallez A tough choice to make: I'd vote for all of you guys, but we have to select someone. I understand this is meant for one year as previously discussed. With mucho thanks to Steven for doing his part! -Bertrand

Re: error handling

2004-06-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 4 juin 04, à 09:59, Torsten Curdt a écrit : ...What about... our current behaviour would be "external". I would like to have "always" andt the "internal" option might be FS ;) +1 for the declaration, looks clean enough! -Bertrand

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/samples/hello-world/style/xsl page2swf.xsl

2004-06-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 4 juin 04, à 07:59, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ... 1.1 cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/samples/hello-world/style/swf/hello.fla <> 1.1 cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/samples/hello-world/style/swf/hello.swf <> Are they really binary? fla and swf are definitely bina

Re: swf block

2004-06-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 juin 04, à 14:36, Torsten Curdt a écrit : If there aren't any objections I will nuke the swf block and add the flash sample. +1 -Bertrand

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 27249] - disposed ComponentLocator exception (when sitemap has timestamp in the future?)

2004-06-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 juin 04, à 11:45, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : The ultimate source of information is http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/ cocoon/components/treeprocessor/ And it's not there :-( So I've been running a placebo system in the last week - I like it ;-) -Bertrand

FirstFriday coming up!

2004-06-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Cocoonistas, Tomorrow is FirstFriday [1], and the cross-posting is intentional: you don't necessarily need to be a committer to participate, there are plenty of bugs and patches waiting for our collective squashing and patching [2]. See you there! (on and off tomorrow for me) [1] http://wiki

Re: [heads up] PMC chair nominations

2004-06-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 juin 04, à 09:18, Steven Noels a écrit : ...I'll start the vote tomorrow, as the list of volunteers seems to be stabilizing. Would candidates mind if this is a public vote? Also, I'd like the vote to be held on the users list as well - to raise the level of their awareness of Cocoon communi

Re: [RT] Cocoon component container and excalibur

2004-06-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 juin 04, à 09:22, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Yep. I told switch, because it was not clear if all of us will accept to drop the Rhino merge effort... Is anybody actually working on this merge? (apart from the work done on clearing out the licensing issues) As "he who does the work decides",

Re: [RT] Cocoon component container and excalibur

2004-06-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 juin 04, à 08:41, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Yep. The Sylvain idea sound great! Can we switch the Rhino merge for this new task? Well, if you have the resources I'd say: go for it! -Bertrand

Re: [RT] Cocoon component container and excalibur

2004-06-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 juin 04, à 08:26, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : - Flow/JS suffers from the legal situation of Rhino+cont and the difficulty to merge the fork into the Mozilla trunk. I suggested as a solution to use JavaFlow to instrument Rhino-generated bytecode. That would lead to a unified code base allow

Re: [RT] Cocoon component container and excalibur

2004-06-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 juin 04, à 07:31, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Cocoon is migrating to a new container architecture... Is it really? Don't get me wrong, there is great work being done in this area, but IMHO this will take some time to actually materialize as a release. ...The question remaining in my mind

Re: [heads up] PMC chair nominations

2004-06-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 31 mai 04, à 12:25, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ...Bertrand already rejected the nomination but I still wanted to mention him as being part of my list Thanks. As this is now a public discussion, Let me just restate my reasons publicly so that there's no mystery about this: I'd be willing t

Re: [heads up] PMC chair nominations

2004-06-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 1 juin 04, à 11:48, David Crossley a écrit : It is very confusing when people use the "+1" thing in general conversation. What are you plussing? In my case, showing agreement/appreciation about what's being said. Sorry if this is confusing, point taken. ...The nominations should be made and the

Re: JXTG and caching

2004-06-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 1 juin 04, à 10:48, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...Taking your example of news urgency, the corresponding algorithm would certainly not fit into a single attribute (because of the "if" constructs it's likely to contain), but could simply be written as : Sounds good! Moreover, I find that being

Re: [heads up] PMC chair nominations

2004-06-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 1 juin 04, à 10:13, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...I see no problem with the PMC election process occuring in public. There's nothing confidential in it. +1 ...Ah, and contrarily to last year, I do accept the nomination ;-) Good news! +1 for Sylvain. (now, if several people accept, how do we choos

Re: JXTG and caching

2004-06-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 1 juin 04, à 10:09, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...Well, it _could_ have a chance to work, but flowscript is definitely not the appropriate location to compute cache information for an element of the view pipeline flowscript maybe not but how about backend java code? Use-case: for a news site

Re: Fed up with build discussions: proposed deal

2004-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 mai 04, à 02:04, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...I am podering if is a worth to merge Rhino jar or if is better to create another implementation with Groovy or both?:-D... Why not both, but for me the priority is clearly to solve the Rhino merge/license/whatever issues. As much as I'm a f

Re: [Plan] The future of Cocoon

2004-05-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 26 mai 04, à 11:17, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...we have to develop the blocks system separately from Cocoon until the block system is stable enough to be "merged" into Cocoon. This allows us to release new versions of Cocoon (like 2.2) without waiting for blocks to be working/finished. +1 ...

Re: VERY odd exceptions...

2004-05-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 26 mai 04, à 10:56, Ugo Cei a écrit : ..."The Java language specification allows access and storage of [variables of type double and long] (but not those of other scalar types) to be non-atomic."... Hmm..smells too much like something that could be interpreted differently by different VMs. Me

Re: Fed up with build discussions: proposed deal

2004-05-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 26 mai 04, à 10:15, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : ...So, let's all cut a deal: we move to SVN, and then I will rework the build on a branch. If someone else wants to, he can do the same with Maven or whatever on another branch. After this is done, we can have a vote and decide which buildsyste

Re: VERY odd exceptions...

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
touch 12011200 sitemap.xmap reproduces the disposed ComponentLocator problem! Definitely reproducible, see new comments in http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27249 -Bertrand

Re: VERY odd exceptions...

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 mai 04, à 13:22, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : Sylvain Wallez wrote: ... Bertrand's problem related to CVS $Id$ in comments makes me think to clock synchronisation problems between the CVS server and the Cocoon server (e.g. modification date moved back in time). I noticed sometime ago that set

Re: VERY odd exceptions...

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 mai 04, à 11:31, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...Have you noticed, by any chance, a ConcurrentModificationException somewhere in your tests? Not that I remember, but I've attached some logs in bugzilla, you might want to dig in them. IIRC, hard restarts didn't help either in this case, the on

Re: VERY odd exceptions...

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 mai 04, à 11:17, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...But what you describe here is really weird: there's absolutely no data related to sitemap or component manager that is persisted to disk. Although in bug 27249 I've seen the problem persist after restarting cocoon *and* deleting the Jetty temp d

Re: VERY odd exceptions...

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 mai 04, à 10:49, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...Two problems... Definitely, under load, Excalibur fails disposing/releasing components, and somehow, Cocoon keeps state EVEN between hard restarts of the JVM... Anyone ever saw something like this? Might be related to this very mysterious bug ht

Re: Results of the Apache member meeting

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 mai 04, à 00:11, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...- David, Bertrand and Gianugo (in last name alphabetical order) have been elected members of the ASF,... Thanks very much to all involved, I discovered this coming back from a nice camping trip and it was a very nice surprise - I'll do my best to

Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1.5 Released

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 mai 04, à 10:02, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Apache Cocoon 2.1.5 Released Thanks very much Carsten, congratulations to all! -Bertrand

Re: JISP,

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 24 mai 04, à 22:18, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Finally We can get rid of the JISP jar. :-D How do you say +1 in finnish? Anyway: here's my +1 -Bertrand

What's wrong with our build system? (was: [VOTE] - Move Cocoon to Maven)

2004-05-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
...I propose to move Cocoon to Maven. Please VOTE: I know the vote is canceled, but maybe we can talk about the problems before looking at a solution? IMHO these are the problems of the current build system: 1) Monolithic repository makes it impossible to include libraries having non-ASF compati

Re: Enough object store crap, let's get serious

2004-05-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 24 mai 04, à 20:07, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : http://www.sleepycat.com/products/je.shtml ...Who's with me? I am, assuming the license is ok. It would be good to make this a block, so that JDK 1.3 users can still compile Cocoon by excluding the block. -Bertrand

Re: generator jars in other location than /lib /classes

2004-05-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 mai 04, à 14:43, Peter Lerche a écrit : ...After 2 weeks I have still not cracked how to change cocoon 2.1.5 to accept other locations for its sitemap elements than the /lib and /classes dir hmmm...I'm no expert on servlet containers, but isn't that a limitation (or rather a security f

Re: [VOTE] Release on monday

2004-05-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 mai 04, à 10:49, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...If noone objects I will release the current state on monday, 24th of May +1, but won't be able to help (once again), leaving for a holiday tomorrow till Sunday. -Bertrand

Re: [Java 1.3] Cocoon build fail....

2004-05-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 18 mai 04, à 14:37, Ugo Cei a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: DOMBuilderTestCase.testMultipleCharactersEvents also fails: Content of root element not what expected expected: but was: This was a problem with the testcase and not the class under test. Should be OK now, but I cannot verify

Re: Testing the cache implementation....

2004-05-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 18 mai 04, à 08:52, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ..but unfortunately the data does not survive a Cocoon restart on my system. Any idea? IMHO this is not a blocker for the release, or is it? (it's great that you guys are working on it, just trying to make sure we don't let the release slip too muc

Re: Core samples depend on XSP

2004-05-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 mai 04, à 17:56, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : ...option 2. is certainly the best, to avoid "endorsing" XSP too much as you mention. If you have time to do it, great, otherwise option 1. is acceptable IMHO. Sorry I was too quick, didn't notice that these were *Sources* s

Re: Core samples depend on XSP

2004-05-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 mai 04, à 17:48, Unico Hommes a écrit : ...Since XSP moved to a block recently there remains this unresolved dependency of the core on XSP block. What to do? 1. Leave them there, provide a notice (there are some other places in the core samples that do this) 2. Move the samples into the XS

Re: [Java 1.3] Cocoon build fail....

2004-05-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 mai 04, à 10:30, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Cocoon is failing under Java 1.3.1_10: Here is the output:... Just did a full compile with all blocks under macosx 10.3.3 / JDK 1.3.1. Build went fine, tried a few samples which look ok. Two JUnit tests fail: CocoonBeanTestCase.testProcessToStrea

Re: Solving the store problem and moving forward

2004-05-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 mai 04, à 09:58, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...I just commited the changes - so you only need to overwrite the jcs jar I have a JDK 1.3.1 setup ready here, so if you guys can let me known when you're ready I can do a full 1.3.1 build and some tests (basic tests only, I don't have a lot

Re: [vote] Reschedule the release

2004-05-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 mai 04, à 20:35, Ugo Cei a écrit : ...I'm not saying that you cannot have JCS if you really need all the features it has to offer. I'm just saying that, for the *default* configuration, we should prefer simplicity over features. In other words, offer both options but with EHCache as a defa

Re: [vote] Reschedule the release

2004-05-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 mai 04, à 11:30, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...So, what do you think about: - switching to EHCache now - testing it in the next days - stick to the code freeze of course - release on monday/tuesday if no issues arise +1, but won't be able to help testing unfortunately. -Bertrand

Re: Release tomorrow?

2004-05-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 mai 04, à 10:50, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...What's the status of EHCache and JCS? Can't we consider one of them as the default persistent store? I think there's an issue with JCS, something at shutdown IIRC? And, also IIRC, Unico reported using EHCache with no problems. -Bertrand

Re: Release tomorrow?

2004-05-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 mai 04, à 09:59, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26753 ... Hmm, yes this is a serious issue - but we have this in all 2.1.x releases :) - so perhaps we should simply add this to the "known issues" category as well. Ok - but isn't there a super-ea

Re: Release tomorrow?

2004-05-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 mai 04, à 09:35, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Ok, so this is "fixed" for the release :) What about the items that David mentions? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10835857253 To me the most serious issue is bugzilla 26753 (persistent store corruption), http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/s

Re: Release tomorrow?

2004-05-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 mai 04, à 09:13, Ugo Cei a écrit : ..Personally, I wouldn't want to ship a release with a broken testsuite. I know it amounts to sweeping it under the rug, but I'd rather remove the testcase temporarily for the release and put it back just after... Agreed - removing or replacing the test

Re: [RT] distributing docs in JavaHelp format

2004-05-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 13 mai 04, à 19:25, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : ...Yeah, that's one of the things Forrest will tackle. Believe it or not, I got both Javahelp and WinHelp generated from the same sources in a couple of hours, but then all got buried in teh rest of my copious free time :-/ You're right, sounds

Re: Release tomorrow?

2004-05-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 mai 04, à 08:32, Upayavira a écrit : Ugo Cei wrote: ... TEST org.apache.cocoon.bean.CocoonBeanTestCase FAILED ...Yup. This test case just shows up something that has been wrong for a _very_ long time. I'm reluctant to remove it, as that which it shows up should be fixed rather than ignored

[RT] distributing docs in JavaHelp format

2004-05-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Sorry about another wild idea about our docs, but this one looks closer than many, so I'll try to inspire/motivate someone to jump in ;-) JavaHelp [3], as the name implies, is a java-based help system that runs client-side. Uses HTML 3.2 files for content, with a couple of metadata files, and

Re: Supersonic block has landed (Power Trio tutorial/example app)

2004-05-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 mai 04, à 21:21, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : On 10.05.2004 14:28, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...I think that it should be called the "tour" block, yet still have the familiar name of "Supersonic Tour"... Do others have the same opinion? If so I'm ok to rename the bl

Re: Supersonic block has landed (Power Trio tutorial/example app)

2004-05-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 mai 04, à 05:59, David Crossley a écrit : ...I think that it should be called the "tour" block, yet still have the familiar name of "Supersonic Tour"... Do others have the same opinion? If so I'm ok to rename the block, I agree that it's a more descriptive name. -Bertrand

Re: [POLL] integrating the Radeox wiki parser in Cocoon?

2004-05-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
FYI, Stephan Schmidt said yesterday that he's getting the final approval for a licence change for Radeox. -Bertrand

Re: new flow example [was: Supersonic block has landed (Power Trio tutorial/example app)]

2004-05-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 7 mai 04, à 14:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ...i have add one of my flow examples in the same sturcture with your's in flow example in supersonic block. this example use java classes for bussines logic calculations. those classe are colled from flow. do you want to add this example insuper

Re: [QVote] Release 2.1.5 on May 14th (Cform API Convergence scheduled > 2.1.6?)

2004-05-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 5 mai 04, à 23:37, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...There are still many little things to solidify in the CForms API until it can be marked stable, and therefore Cocoon 2.1.5 will not contain a stable CForms +1, let's not forget to release early, release often. CForms can still mature after 2.1

Re: [POLL] integrating the Radeox wiki parser in Cocoon?

2004-05-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 6 mai 04, à 07:51, Marc Portier a écrit : ...I don't want to rain on anyones parade here, but do we need it? I understand it's useful and that 'it can be done' but for crying out loud: is this really a sample of a fundamentally new thing to cocoon? Or does it survive the 80/20 rule saying it's

Re: [QVote] Release 2.1.5 on May 14th (Cform API Convergence scheduled > 2.1.6?)

2004-05-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 5 mai 04, à 20:28, leo leonid a écrit : ...Bruno seems to be the only one concerned about the current situation, I'm still wondering why his v3 proposal didn't find any resonance? Don't know about others obviously, but I have a very hard time keeping up with all that's happening here current

Re: Supersonic block has landed (Power Trio tutorial/example app)

2004-05-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 5 mai 04, à 21:23, leo leonid a écrit : ...And it seems extensible, possibly a chance to demonstrate some O/R practices with our lovely web glue... Yes, maybe providing an alternate version of the beans using OBJ to save themselves to a database would be a nice improvement. ...noticed you're

Re: [POLL] integrating the Radeox wiki parser in Cocoon?

2004-05-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 5 mai 04, à 13:42, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : ...IMHO, the chaperon parser is very well suited to strict parsing but a bit too rigid about the syntax, and harder to customize as it requires people to understand the LALR grammar... Just to be clear, I meant this in the context of wiki

[POLL] integrating the Radeox wiki parser in Cocoon?

2004-05-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I've been talking with Stephan Schmidt, author of the Radeox (http://radeox.org/) wiki parser API and reference implementation, about a possible integration of Radeox in Cocoon. I know we have a wiki parser already, based on Chaperon, but I feel Radeox is much more adaptable to variations in wi

Re: Supersonic block has landed (Power Trio tutorial/example app)

2004-05-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 4 mai 04, à 23:04, Upayavira a écrit : ...In a block called tutorials, I think this could be an invaluable addition. but...me likes the name supersonic ;-) The idea is a very quick, "supersonic" tour of the most important things in Cocoon. Next step towards understanding is to take another s

Supersonic block has landed (Power Trio tutorial/example app)

2004-05-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I've just committed the new "supersonic" block, a tutorial/example app called "Supersonic Tour of Apache Cocoon", focused on Pipelines, Flow, Forms (aka "the Power Trio"). It is accessible from the "blocks with samples" page if you run the current Cocoon CVS version. The tutorial is meant to b

Re: [QVote] new block: Supersonic Tour of Apache Cocoon

2004-05-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 4 mai 04, à 15:55, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : ...What about calling it simply: "tutorial"? I guess there are already several tutorials out there, the idea between the "supersonic tour" name is that it's not deep, but a quick overview of the essentials. And I like the name ;-) But it will be

[QVote] new block: Supersonic Tour of Apache Cocoon

2004-05-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I'd like to donate the contents of my "Supersonic Tour of Apache Cocoon" tutorial to the project, as a new block named "supersonic". There's more info on the tutorial contents at http://lots.ch/Supersonic_Tour_of_Apache_Cocoon.html The pros (IMHO): -I think it's a good overview of the Power Trio

Re: Apologies (was Re: formation@anyware-tech.com)

2004-05-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 1 mai 04, à 00:15, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ..Sending announcements to -users doesn't seem more appropriate to me than spamming grabbed email addresses... Same as others, I have no problem with Cocoon-related commercial announcements on our lists provided a) sender is in some way a member of

Re: spamming thats using Andrew and cocoon

2004-04-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 30 avr. 04, à 17:01, Roger I Martin PhD a écrit : ...I keep getting an email with an attachment that claims to be from Andrew to Cocoon-dev.  Anybody else getting this?  If you find out the address of the bastard doing this is in my corner of the world, I'm willing to go thump some sense into

Re: [OT] Re: formation@anyware-tech.com

2004-04-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 30 avr. 04, à 16:24, Jorg Heymans a écrit : ...On a side note: Thunderbird is not keeping track of threads anymore in the cocoon mailinglists, i trust that this is completely related to it not being capable of threading quite a large number of messages and *not* related to some server side kn

Re: generator type value substitution (GroovySQL vaporware strikes again)

2004-04-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 29 avr. 04, à 20:41, Leszek Gawron a écrit : ...I am more than willing to help. What should I do ? See this thread http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=108204436515664&w=2 for some discussion and ideas about this. I think the following steps would be enough to allow the GroovySQL/Gr

Re: generator type value substitution (GroovySQL vaporware strikes again)

2004-04-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 29 avr. 04, à 16:53, Leszek Gawron a écrit : ...This is also how I do it in standard web apps. But the performance is a great issue here. Creating 10k JavaBeans, keeping them in memory and than processing by JXTG is very memory and time consuming Sounds like a use case for the (vaporware a

Re: [RT] Generating docs and entries for sitemap component from JavaDocs

2004-04-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 29 avr. 04, à 16:57, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...Basically I mostly agree with you. It's not that good to have user docs in the Java Source, but it's better to have the JavaDocs as a documentation than nothing :) (which is today the case - sometimes at least). Big +1 And Carsten said he was i

Re: NetUtils / StringUtils / Tokenizer

2004-04-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 29 avr. 04, à 11:52, Upayavira a écrit : ...Doesn't it replace, for example /cocoon/src/java/../webapp with /cocoon/src/webapp? i.e. removing .. from paths? FWIW, I have attached the results of find src -type f -name *.java | xargs -n200 grep 'NetUtils.*normalize' -Bertrand results of find

Re: Widget states again (was Re: fi:booleanfield[fi:styling/@type='output'])

2004-04-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 avr. 04, à 11:57, Bruno Dumon a écrit : ...You could look at it that way, but I like enabled/disabled better (IMHO)... You're the one (or one of the ones) who's doing actual work here, so your HO certainly wins over mine! I was just suggesting anyway. But I find enabled/disabled more consis

Re: Widget states again (was Re: fi:booleanfield[fi:styling/@type='output'])

2004-04-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 avr. 04, à 10:19, Bruno Dumon a écrit : On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 08:37, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 27 avr. 04, à 08:30, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...At the time where we discussed this, I proposed active/disabled/hidden, which is more traditional for GUI widgets: - active is the normal

Re: Widget states again (was Re: fi:booleanfield[fi:styling/@type='output'])

2004-04-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 avr. 04, à 08:30, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...At the time where we discussed this, I proposed active/disabled/hidden, which is more traditional for GUI widgets: - active is the normal behaviour (what we have today) - disabled is like @type=output with the additional behaviour that the reque

Re: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts

2004-04-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 23 avr. 04, à 14:46, Guido Casper a écrit : ...Once such a customized doclet mechanism is in-place (Does someone know wether QDox already has an Ant task? Or maybe we should use XDoclet for that?)... There is a qdox block in Cocoon, which could certainly be used at the documentation generatio

Re: [Vote] Repository Usage and Versioning

2004-04-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 23 avr. 04, à 11:56, Upayavira a écrit : ...I really think we should get away from this idea of multiple repositories. Subversion should, I believe, fix the problems that led us to our multiple repository situation, and therefore we should have just two repositories: code and site. (Of course

Re: [vote] Versioning Guide

2004-04-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 22 avr. 04, à 22:03, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...So, I think we should vote now for the general tendency outlined in the guide and not on every detail +1 Thanks for your work, Carsten! -Bertrand

Subversion wiki page (was:: [VOTE:RESULTS] Move to SVN)

2004-04-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 22 avr. 04, à 11:37, Upayavira a écrit : ...As Nicola Ken mentioned, there's: https://svn.apache.org/repos/test Thanks for the info - I have created http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SubversionMigration to help us during the move. -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE:RESULTS] Move to SVN

2004-04-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 22 avr. 04, à 10:27, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : ...The result is that we have decided to move to subversion right after the next 2.1 branch point release Can you recommend a practice repository for people who need to test their clients (before messing up with the Cocoon SVN repository ;

Re: [VOTE] Move to SVN

2004-04-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 21 avr. 04, à 10:29, Upayavira a écrit : Carsten Ziegeler wrote: What are the current problems we have with CVS that you want to solve with such a move? For example keeping everything in one big repository and using branches? would be a very good reason for me. The reason why we don't use b

Re: [VOTE] Move to SVN

2004-04-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 21 avr. 04, à 08:46, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : Since we are working a lot with branches... Are we really? I thought branches were unwelcome around here (although I never really understood why). ...I propose that we move Cocoon to use SVN... I'm +1 basically (or more precisely +0.5, cannot

Re: CalendarGenerator does not compile under JDK 1.3.1

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 avr. 04, à 21:37, Ugo Cei a écrit : ...Hey, that's not my fault. CalendarGenerator's was ;-). It's fixed now, please cross-check. Sorry, I should have done the change myself, it was...not so complex ;-) I just did a complete build under 1.3.1, successfully, thanks. Note that I'm not partic

Re: CalendarGenerator does not compile under JDK 1.3.1

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
(sorry, hit send by mistake on previous message) Le 19 avr. 04, à 17:59, Ugo Cei a écrit : ...I just committed a fix. Can you tell me if there are other problems, as I don't have a JDK 1.3 here, please? CalendarGenerator now compiles, thanks! There is the same problem (Locale constructor) in sr

Re: CalendarGenerator does not compile under JDK 1.3.1

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 avr. 04, à 17:59, Ugo Cei a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/generation/ CalendarGenerator.java:152: cannot resolve symbol symbol : constructor Locale (java.lang.String) location: class java.util.Locale locale = new Locale

CalendarGenerator does not compile under JDK 1.3.1

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/generation/ CalendarGenerator.java:152: cannot resolve symbol symbol : constructor Locale (java.lang.String) location: class java.util.Locale locale = new Locale(langString); It looks like the Locale(String language) constructor is not

Re: Modular database component

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 avr. 04, à 11:08, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...I have to think more about the API of this component but first I want to talk more about the background of my idea. I had several discussions with Alex Schatten and we came to the conclusion that, generally spoken, there are two database usage

Re: Remove Ant Task from Scratchpad

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 avr. 04, à 10:50, Upayavira a écrit : I would like to propose that we remove the Ant task from the scratchpad. This Ant task has been superceded by the new one that makes use of the CocoonBean, sharing its configuration code. +1 -Bertrand

Re: Modular database component (was: OT: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts)

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 avr. 04, à 10:51, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...I will be glad to propose a Groovy block that will use BSF more oriented to Groovy needs. Something like precompiling support of classes, then if the source don't change we will be able to run the class as a generator (as XSP do now) Of co

Re: Modular database component (was: OT: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts)

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 avr. 04, à 10:17, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...The best way integrating database support in Flowscript is using an *O/R-mapper*. If this is too complicated I would recommend a general database component I don't know much about the ModularDatabaseActions, but would a ModularDatabaseCompo

Re: Continue Development of 2.1.x

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 avr. 04, à 20:06, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...So, I would suggest that we change our development plan a little bit and consider adding those features to our 2.1.x code base that are independent from blocks, like e.g. the virtual sitemap components etc. Of course we should take care that th

Re: [POLL] don't edit files just for style changes?

2004-04-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 avr. 04, à 21:39, Tony Collen a écrit : ...My condition [a] on the item above was that we should try to eliminate people from having to make these code changes in the first place. We should be following the standard Java style, and most IDEs can help enforce this... I don't think an IDE-b

Re: [POLL] don't edit files just for style changes?

2004-04-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 avr. 04, à 17:42, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : Joerg Heinicke dijo: IMO it's only important to separate code changes clearly from style changes. For an example see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.cvs/11901. A replacement of hand-written code with commons lang code got completely

[POLL] don't edit files just for style changes?

2004-04-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Lately there have been several hints that people are annoyed by commits consisting only of style changes (rearranging imports, "cleaning up" indents) etc. Of course, there are always good intentions behind such changes, but IMHO changes which make no difference to the actual code, are: a) risk

Re: [VOTE] Make ProcessingException extend CascadingRuntimeException

2004-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 16 avr. 04, à 15:28, Marc Portier a écrit : ...I'm not currently not convinced there could be anything else then careful consideration on each point in the code, sorry if this is bad news I tend to agree. I don't have time currently to seriously follow the discussion, but a quick random

Re: Documentation TOC started

2004-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 16 avr. 04, à 14:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ...Ultimately you're right and the ToC should be generated, but for now I want to use it as an inventory for what's available, what's missing and in short: how much work is ahead. :-) Fine, thanks for the clarification! -Bertrand

Re: Documentation TOC started

2004-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 16 avr. 04, à 13:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ...Yes I noticed on the wiki, my idea exactly to merge them, although my plans with the ToC are more "grand". As explained in another message, my goal is to get to an ebook kind of documentation I dont' want to stop or slow down your most we

Re: Documentation TOC started

2004-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Helma, ...AHA. That explains the "complete radio silence" when it comes to updating the documentation. :-) ... Sorry about that. I guess some of us are in a more or less burnout state about the docs (I am). There have been many discussions about how to improve the docs, many real good ideas

Re: GroovyMarkup syntax works!

2004-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 16 avr. 04, à 03:41, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Yes. I agreed, but there are still some issues to solve first in this parentesis oriented grammar. For example, try to write something like: Hello, bold text and you will see the true You're right, the current state about mixed markup is

Re: [VOTE] Make ProcessingException extend CascadingRuntimeException

2004-04-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 16 avr. 04, à 00:02, Ugo Cei a écrit : ...In order to move forward, I propose to reparent the org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException to extend org.apache.avalon.framework.CascadingRuntimeException instead of CascadingException +1 -Bertrand

Re: GroovyMarkup syntax works!

2004-04-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 15 avr. 04, à 21:40, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Aparently no O/R mapping suppport. == No researched enough Groovy to said that, but I will not go back to plain JDBC and SQL I'm not seeing Groovy SQL support as a replacement for O/R mapping or java-based b

Re: GroovyMarkup syntax works!

2004-04-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 15 avr. 04, à 19:37, Leon Widdershoven a écrit : You don't have access to a ServiceManager or ComponentManager (provided by cocoon and holding the configured pools)? Sure - it just needs a little bridge to make the pools or Connections available to the scripts. -Bertrand

Re: GroovyMarkup syntax works!

2004-04-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 15 avr. 04, à 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ...You might as well just use DataSource then as this is pretty close to all DataSource is. (Or at the least get ConnectionProvider to implement DataSource) There's an implementation in Jakarta Commons dbcp and various JDBC drivers come with a

Re: GroovyMarkup syntax works!

2004-04-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 15 avr. 04, à 18:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ...BTW you could just create the Sql object with a DataSource which is-a JDBC connection pool, then the Sql object takes care of all the pooling for you. Is there support for DataSource in Cocoon or some kinda adapter between DataSource and Co

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