RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-06 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
t you give it a go? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...

Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-06 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
So can you summarize what you are saying. Sent from Surface From: Pierre Smits Sent: ?Monday?, ?July? ?6?, ?2015 ?10?:?47? ?AM To: dev@community.apache.org Hi Konstantin, No, I am not saying that, neither explicitly nor effectively

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-05 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I believe the point is that since we are about consensus it can (and in mt opinion should) be argued that rules are usually not necessary - respectful human interaction shouldn't require rules. Occasionally things break down, in such situations rules for conflict resolution become important, hen

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > In the

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
d if so, where? >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.or

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
nal Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > No I said if projects don't write bye-laws then the defaults if the Apache > Way apply. If they have local bye-laws they are expected

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Pierre Op zaterdag 4 juli 2015 heeft Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com > het volgende geschreven: > Sorry rushing and as has been pointed out off list auto-correct was not > kind here. > > First sentence is unparseable so here it is again: > > The

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)<mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com> Sent: ‎7/‎4/‎2015 10:08 AM To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> Subject: RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying) The ASF is about

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
The ASF is about doing the right thing in code, not loading passport (our the electronic equivalent). There are default position for most situations in a project. In the absence of project specific exceptions the default applies. Most projects are happy with the default and prefer to write code

RE: Better specifying the scope of our Code of Conduct

2015-07-03 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 You want an exec officer to be responsible for the CoC, it's the President. Ross -Original Message- From: hedh...@gmail.com [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Hedhman Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:14 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Better specifying the scope

RE: ApacheCON CORE? ApacheCon!

2015-07-01 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Rich can try to take full responsibility, but there was consultation with all appropriate places. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rich Bowen Sent: ‎7/‎1/‎2015 5:48 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject

RE: moderators?

2015-06-29 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
can use Reply to accept and Reply All to accept and allow. Moderation is tedious enough without making it harder to do. > -- Brane > > >> I have raised >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9894 >> >> On 27 June 2015 at 17:52, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN

RE: moderators?

2015-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
AM To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> Subject: Re: moderators? Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through. On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Who are the moderators for this list? We

RE: moderators?

2015-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Dennis just sent me a mail off list indicating that he thinks it may be a technical problem. Let me look into this when I have more time. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)<mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com> Sent: ‎6/‎27/‎2015 9

RE: moderators?

2015-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
27, 2015, at 12:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails > that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to > spread the load? Hmm. Isn't that a problem with a moderator letting thro

RE: moderators?

2015-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I've seen a number of blank emails recently. Probably probe emails. -Original Message- From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 1:45 AM To: dev Subject: Re: moderators? Hi, On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN

moderators?

2015-06-26 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to spread the load?

RE: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge

2015-06-24 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
esday, June 24, 2015 10:23 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: David Nalley; Jim Jagielski Subject: Re: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge On 24 June 2015 at 19:05, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Edited out private stuff and moved to ComDev lis

RE: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge

2015-06-24 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
AM To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) Cc: Jim Jagielski Subject: Re: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge So dropping the SF folks again. Some updates on what we've found. In total, there are around 350 projects in the A-E directory on google code. Of those 350, 161 are mirrors of conten

RE: svn commit: r1684202 - /comdev/tools/events_list/templates/events/index.html

2015-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Yep, I have it on my todo list to pretty up the display (though I'm really not the right one to do that). (and I fixed my EOL settings, a long time since I used SVN and I completely forgot about that) -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Monday, June 8,

meetups.com Webapp (based on Rich's script)

2015-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Inspired by Rich's work on the meetups.com script I have just completed a somewhat useful webapp. My initial focus was to address the two pain points Rich identified with his script: 1) Need to manually filter results to remove false positives 2) Scheduling tweets I tackled the firs

RE: Shared ASF calendars

2015-06-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
pages etc.) Ross -Original Message- From: shaposh...@gmail.com [mailto:shaposh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roman Shaposhnik Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:45 AM To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) Cc: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Shared ASF calendars On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:10 PM,

RE: Shared ASF calendars

2015-06-03 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
You can ask infra, but I don't see this as a viable cross project service since confluence is not standards across all projects. Personally I'd say don't bother. If you have a solution for Geode then you should stick with that for now. If others ask then we can think about asking infra. But I do

RE: ComDev VM

2015-06-03 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
h Stärk" wrote: > According to http://www.apache.org/dev/machines.html we have a Solaris > Zone already but no virtual machine. Can you reuse that? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On Wed, June 3, 2015 22:55, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Do we have a ComDev VM al

ComDev VM

2015-06-03 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Do we have a ComDev VM already? I ask because I would like to install Docker on it and get the wonderful events scripts running on their. I've made a start on a web UI for managing it, it's not ready year but I would like to get things in place to give other people access to it in case anyone w

RE: Source signed by someone not on your list

2015-06-03 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Thank you for your email, this is very helpul. I'm copying the open office project team for their information. Ross -Original Message- From: tensizes [mailto:tensi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 12:44 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Source signed by someone not on

Get meetups script

2015-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I just had a play with Rich's get meetup script and it works beautifully. I have my plans for making it even more useful but I'm not promising to deliver just in case I don't find the time to do so. However, as a first step I have made a couple of contributions to the development tooling. 1)

RE: Apache meetups, week of June 1 2015

2015-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
This is awesome - thanks Rich. I'll do some tweeting with these, I hope others do too. (I didn't get to your code this weekend, hopefully soon) -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 5:57 AM To: dev Subject: Apache meetups, week of June

RE: Apache meetups in the coming week

2015-05-30 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Melissa is tasked with consolidating and maintaining calendars. I'll put it on our weekly agenda and figure out out. In the meantime told like these will make it a viable task. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rich Bowen Sent: ‎5/‎30/‎2

RE: Apache meetups in the coming week

2015-05-29 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
king about what webserver they want to use. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 05/29/2015 11:35 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > >> >> >> On 05/29/2015 11:28 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 05/2

RE: Apache meetups in the coming week

2015-05-29 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
‎29/‎2015 8:36 AM To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> Subject: Re: Apache meetups in the coming week On 05/29/2015 11:28 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 05/29/2015 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Adding preas@ >> >> Yes ple

RE: Apache meetups in the coming week

2015-05-29 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Adding preas@ Yes please. I want to work with Sally to figure out how to better amplify ASF related events without significantly adding to her workload. Having tools like those you describe are a great start. Is it possible to make the source available? Sent from my Windows Phone _

RE: Code repo for community.apache.org?

2015-05-22 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I'd you do make these updates, our seems a link to the source and CMS would be helpful. Thanks for your attention Sent from my Windows Phone From: Michael Rice Sent: ‎5/‎21/‎2015 3:56 PM To: dev@community.apache.org

RE: Thank You for Joining Pivotal at ApacheCon and Welcome Apache Geode!

2015-05-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Fair enough. It happens. I suspect the real concern was that the reg list might have been shared. Thanks for confirming that wasn't the case. Ross Sent from my Windows Phone From: Roman Shaposhnik Sent: ‎5/‎14/‎2015 4:12 PM To: ComDev

RE: I'm looking for "State of the Feather" filetype:pptx

2015-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
You are receiving these mails because you subscribed to the mailing list. If you want to unsubscribe simply send an email to dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org -Original Message- From: Betty James [mailto:bsquar...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:14 AM To: dev@community.apac

RE: I'm looking for "State of the Feather" filetype:pptx

2015-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Edward, I should also have pointed you at some useful speaker materials at http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html (state of the feather is in you inbox). -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:26

RE: I'm looking for "State of the Feather" filetype:pptx

2015-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Edward, I will send you the State of the Feather presentation offlist. Ross -Original Message- From: Edward J. Yoon [mailto:edwardy...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:09 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: I'm looking for "State of the Feather" filetype:pptx Hi community

RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
w.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > *we* do not have to ask it. The LF do. > &

RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do. The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible for selecting it. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smits Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 8:05 AM To: dev@community.apac

RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ApacheCon is created by the LF. It will have a tighter focus on talks that bring people. Our community defined and selected tracks simply do not create a good conference (from the perspective of the paying attendee). What this means is that we have, moving forwards, very little say in what trac

RE: Events calendar

2015-04-10 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ww.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > To get people involved we need to provid

RE: Events calendar

2015-04-10 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
The events calendar *is* owned by ComDev. How far ComDev volunteers want to go in driving its value is potentially up for debate, but who owns the calendar is not. As one volunteer, I want to work with ComDev volunteers to make better use of the calendar. Ross -Original Message- From

RE: Events calendar

2015-04-10 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
To get people involved we need to provide value. Today, we offer no value. So, if I may, I would like to answer a slightly different question. The one I want to answer is "how can we provide value so that PMCs will proactively maintain a central events calendar?" Here's my starting answer, more

RE: Presentations about Apache Software Foundation

2015-04-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Anyone can do whatever they want with whatever level of attribution they feel is appropriate where my decks are concerned. No need to complicate things with policies or best practice guidelines for anyone to worry about. Just do what feels right. Thank you for sharing the world of the ASF, I ho

RE: Presentations about Apache Software Foundation

2015-04-03 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
born in my head. What does exactly the Apache License mean for slides? How can the Apache licensed slides be reused? Regards Krzysztof On 02.04.2015 23:42, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > You need to look for license information in each of the files. For my own > decks on there

RE: Presentations about Apache Software Foundation

2015-04-02 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
You need to look for license information in each of the files. For my own decks on there they should be considered Apache licensed unless otherwise stated on the slide itself. Ross -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 2:21 PM To: dev@com

RE: Presentations about Apache Software Foundation

2015-04-02 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html for updated stats see https://projects-new.apache.org/ (will eventually be projects.apache.org) -Original Message- From: Krzysztof Sobkowiak [mailto:krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 1:16 PM To: dev@community.apache

RE: Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2)

2015-03-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
it on up the chain to CCR. Where should I send followup questions about this? We'll need a bio to tag onto it as well. --Rich On 03/19/2015 12:42 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Decision on the below? > > -Original Message- > From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)

RE: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources

2015-03-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 to lazy consensus - this is a reversible step -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources Actually I just realized how dumb t

RE: Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2)

2015-03-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Decision on the below? -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:21 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2) Here'

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no > news since then. > > Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Today Google announced that Goog

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
e happy to help facilitate the move (and hence our involvement thus far). On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it > to be ComDev if you are happy from

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects apache-extras. As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very long time - has that changed? Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apa

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
n Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these > folks have shown interest ;-) > > I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. > > Ross &g

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
rent status? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Moving board@ to BCC > > I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it > wasn't me!) > > All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don'

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
of concept, no news since then. Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. > > We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras.

Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter. I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with Sour

RE: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I’m around until the end of next week Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation From: Sally Khudairi [mailto:sallykhuda...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:15 PM To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH); dev@community.apache.org Cc: Sally Khudairi; pr

RE: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sally we could weave this into the diversity angle, as a reminder I intend to use the state of the feather to acknowledge that we have mostly failed to move the needle on diversity in our community, that very little works (GSoC is a good example of something that does work), accept we don’t have

Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2)

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
also THE example of Universal App enabler. During this session we will demonstrate what "Universal App" means in the context of Cordova. We will look at tooling that can be used to deliver on the Cordova vision of Universal App (and Cross Platform) paradigm. -----Original Message----- Fr

RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:46 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 On 03/11/2015 04:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Oh, that was my case study session. That's not so easy to

RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ubject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a > colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with > some colleagues i

RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any

RE: GitHub Pages

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache hardware? If so, why? I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we really need to own web server? A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we could not easily switch to another hos

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-09 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
t say "large majority". I have pretty high gut confidence in the characterization, however) On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > I said "the ASF" not "Apache Foo". I do agree with your observation

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-09 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
r somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow? Ideally and aspirationally, that is true. Practically speaking, definitely not true. On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Once again, the ASF makes no distinction between co

Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Given what Joe said is exactly what I said I really object to this confrontational approach. To your specific question, if someone is speaking *for* a project then they can only do so with the permission of the project (being a PMC member or committer does not automatically bestow that authorit

Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
David Nalley wrote: > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) >> wrote: >>> Who said we allow it for engineers? My position is the same for any >>> community member no matter what they do.

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> Subject: Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow? On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: >> Who

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
unities grow? On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: >> Who said we allow it for engineers? My position is the same for any >> community member no matter what they do. > > It is all o

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
pache.org> Subject: Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow? On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I'm -1 on using "Apache Foo" in a job title. It great confusion between the > paid role a

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I'm -1 on using "Apache Foo" in a job title. It great confusion between the paid role and the community role. The community role is not attached to a paid role. It is connected to the individual. I see no reason why individuals can't also use ASF titles where appropriate. I see no problem with

RE: GitLab?

2015-03-06 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Trials lead to services that need to be maintained. No trial unless we know we can maintain it. For that to happen someone needs to come up with a full proposal for the infra team to evaluate with clear justification for the approach and clarity on how ASF budgets would need to scale to support

RE: [VOTE] Replace projects.apache.org with projects-new.apache.org

2015-03-06 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:53 AM To: dev Subject: [VOTE] Replace projects.apache.org with projects-new.apache.org I'd like for us to go ahead and

RE: GitLab?

2015-03-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
An excellent thought, but every service adds overhead on the infra team. If there were enough projects demanding it I guess we would find a way of providing it. So how many projects demand it? Do infra feel that that is "enough"? What if infra provided VMs and PMCs managed the instances themsel

RE: Groovy: Great news ! Willing to help.

2015-03-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
At this point you should make your interest known on the existing Groovy lists. The project has not yet made a proposal to the incubator, I'm sure they could use help with that. Alternatively wait until the proposal hits gene...@incubator.apache.org and get involved there. Sent from my Windows

RE: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks

2015-02-25 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
st are more represented than those that didn't. > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: >> I covered that in a separate mail. In the end I left your track untouched. >> I've recorded it in the spreadsheet as a

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
what little of his free time trying to not be outsmarted by his Shetland sheepdog while watching British panel quiz shows. -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 12:51 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: ApacheCon Schedule I can

RE: DevOps tracks

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
LGTM Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:19 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: DevOps tracks On 02/19/2015 08:54 AM, jan i wrote: > Hold on >

RE: [IDEA] ASF "Certifications"

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 to What Rich says Community managed examinations are unlikely to be adequately maintained. However, someone making a living out of it whilst also respecting our marks helps to grow the community. We should leave that space open for people with the time and skills. Ross Microsoft Open Techn

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
get to actual scheduling Monday, so we need that by Sunday if possible. Thanks. On 02/19/2015 03:54 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Yep, I'll get it ASAP and share here. > > Ross > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:j...@zon

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
The community track is now full. But I do think we should slot your proposal in as a wildcard if there is space. I'm happy to help. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Nick Burch Sent: ‎2/‎20/‎2015 8:15 AM To: dev

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Yep, I'll get it ASAP and share here. Ross -Original Message- From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:j...@zonker.net] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:48 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon Schedule On Thu, Feb 19, 2015, at 08:12 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I just added 4 sessions. There is one more for the community track if Joe wants it (not in CFP). So there is space for a 6 session track from Hadrian. Sent from my Windows Phone From: jan i Sent: ‎2/‎19/‎2015 7:59 AM To: dev@community.apach

RE: DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
cloud based VMs to build community -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:52 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: DevOps tracks Damn wrapping messed up again, here's a readable version (re

RE: DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Developers Zero to Test Driven Infrastructure Workflow in Six Hours Using cloud based VMs to build community -Original Message----- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:15 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: DevOps tr

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ur travels) Ross -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:37 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon Schedule On 02/19/2015 09:12 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I can fill that community track w

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Re pushing out to PMCs. Historically this has not been a good idea. Once you have 200+ PMCs and PPMCs fighting over 200+ slots you get a horribly disjointed program with no real value. This is one reason why I want LF to set the theme. We can then create a smaller list of PMCs that fit the them

RE: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
nity.apache.org Subject: Re: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks What happened with the container track? I don't see that reflected in the "Cloud" track. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015, at 12:23 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I've put together three tracks (if there is sp

DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Rich indicated that there are some empty slots so I am sharing a 5 talk DevOps track I had on the back burner (not verified they are all free, so might shrink a little). I can solicit an extra proposal to make this six tracks, people can suggest a session I may have missed or we can just leave i

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I can fill that community track with the TEALS session that we previously discussed. I owe details of that to Joe as track chair, I'll send under separate cover shortly. If we don't want that one there are a couple I can point to that I like. Regarding your open slots I have a 5 session DevOps

RE: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
can judge, but since these track form a big part of ACNA, we really need a higher number of wait-listed tasks. just for info, adding the row# from the spreadsheet, helps the postprocess work. rgds jan i On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com&g

RE: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks

2015-02-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
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Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks

2015-02-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I've put together three tracks (if there is space), if not then we can talk about which ones are the best and put all other sessions on the wait list. If there is more space I also have a DevOps track we could use (it's currently short one session though I have plenty of Devops sessions I could

RE: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers

2015-02-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
t: ‎2/‎17/‎2015 5:38 AM To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> Subject: Re: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 02:01 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on t

Re: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers

2015-02-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Community + Containers On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 02:01 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track. > I'm putting together a larger group of "cloud" tracks and trying to weave > a narrative through

RE: [ApacheCon] Keeping notes

2015-02-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
F see in ApacheCon. Their overall mission in this regard is aligned with our own. Ross -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:42 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Keeping notes On 02/18/2015 04:28

RE: [ApacheCon] Keeping notes

2015-02-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Rich is right, it's about balance. We don't want to leave LF high and dry regardless of what the contract says. However, I do think LF need to set a tone for the event. What tracks do they want (meaning what will sell). They need to market the event (actually sell it). They need to provide the

RE: [ApacheCon] Big Data track?

2015-02-17 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:35 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Big Data track? On 02/17/2015 02:29 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Ross Gardler (MS

RE: [ApacheCon] Big Data track?

2015-02-17 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ting to take up? Also when I might see your draft track? Thanks. On 02/17/2015 01:13 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I'll do this as part of my Cloud tracks (see why I chose such a broad > term ;-) > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > A subsidiary of Microsoft Co

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