Re: Naming: cordova-2.8.0.js -- cordova.js

2013-05-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
at 11:41 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Sounds good. FTR we did it for issue tracking not arbitrarily. Having a stamp at the top of the file fulfills the same end. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: If I recall correctly the original reason was because

Re: Is 2.7.0 released?

2013-05-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
Ultimately its up to us how we want to run with it. Far prefer lazy consensus to voting. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Even in the pre-updated release steps, it explicitly says we need a vote and refers to this apache way doc:

Re: Is 2.7.0 released?

2013-05-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
to change the release process to include an official vote, Andrew, then we should start a vote on the private list, I.e. Vote-to-change-the-process kind of vote. On 5/1/13 3:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Ultimately its up to us how we want to run with it. Far prefer lazy consensus

Re: Naming: cordova-2.8.0.js -- cordova.js

2013-04-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
Sounds good. FTR we did it for issue tracking not arbitrarily. Having a stamp at the top of the file fulfills the same end. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: If I recall correctly the original reason was because putting the version in after the lib name in the JS

Re: Scripts for CLI

2013-04-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
Main reason was to vendor in the scripts with the version of the src they would operate on. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: *over-write (oops on the oop) On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: I think the main purpose of the

Re: RC2

2013-04-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
YES On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Should we fire up the script and create the tickets for tagging today? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: How about we let it sit, and plan for 2.7.0 release on Monday?

Re: reviews.apache.org

2013-04-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
Added myself. Could be promising. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5889 We have cordova repos for cordova-a* - cordova-ios This includes cordova-app-harness, cordova-android, cordova-cli, cordova-ios.

Re: Invite your friends and colleagues to the Tizen Conference

2013-04-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
I plan to be there! On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Ken Wallis kwal...@blackberry.com wrote: Thanks very much for this Paul, I will be attending. Any other Cordova people going, perhaps an informal gathering can be arranged? -- Ken Wallis Product Manager – WebWorks BlackBerry

Re: Plugins as subdirectories of git repos, trivial as of git 1.7

2013-04-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
There is a very good reason that we want the plugins to be discreet, atomic, almost userspace, artifacts vs the core cordova distribution which should just be bridge and supporting code. On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I can only see one. Does the apache

Re: [cordova-cli] npm Version Update

2013-04-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
The first step will be to lazy load the locked in version. Ok. So we are version locked. But MINOR has different meaning from a native project to the CLI tools. The much longer goal would be to discuss and architect the grunt inspired approach. However, with how the CLI is structured, it

Re: [cordova-cli] npm Version Update

2013-04-20 Thread Brian LeRoux
+major.minor.patch Example: 1.0.12+2.7.0 === npm module 1.0.12 and Cordova framework 2.7.0 On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Cordova CLI has a version that is independent of the Cordova releases. (Once we decouple the creating of projects from version

Re: [cordova-cli] npm Version Update

2013-04-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
I don't get it. Why not independently version? (I recognize we version lock currently.) On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Rockin, love it On 4/19/13 2:17 PM, Michael Brooks mich...@michaelbrooks.ca wrote: Hey all, I'm planning to change the way we version the

Re: [cordova-cli] npm Version Update

2013-04-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
and as a consumable npm module. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I don't get it. Why not independently version? (I recognize we version lock currently.) On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Rockin, love it On 4/19/13 2:17 PM, Michael

Re: Ian Clelland is now a Cordova Committer

2013-04-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
Congratulations Ian! On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Welcome and looking forward to working with you! On 4/18/13 7:43 AM, James Jong wjamesj...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome Ian! -James Jong On Apr 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org

Re: Point release for 2.6.1?

2013-04-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
Agree on 2.7 and love the idea for a regression label. Would be a good 'first bug' for folks new to the project to help cut support releases. Here's a battery of queries, how do we decide we need a MINOR point release? can it be just one issue cherry picked? does it need to be fully packaged or

Re: SysApps moving app: URI to first public working draft

2013-04-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
I really like this spec but suspect we want to hold off until post 3.x to be safe. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: TL;DR this is a way to solve the how to reference in-app package contents in a platform-agnostic fashion Relevant to us because it would solve a

Re: plugman + plugin spec final q's

2013-04-17 Thread Brian LeRoux
Braden: you thinking that the config is canonical and then prepare quietly does the right thing based on that? (Agree less steps is exactly what we're going for here.) On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.orgwrote: Re: --install calling --prepare: no. It could,

Re: plugman + plugin spec final q's

2013-04-17 Thread Brian LeRoux
This is a good point. Might be better to warn about unused permissions. (And offer an audit command for cleanup/release purposes.) On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I think we do have consensus on permission, you can ignore the entire discussion of

Re: 2.7 for Adobe Max?

2013-04-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
It would be ideal to see 2.7 ship before the month is out for sure. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: I think that this would be a good thing. It'd be nice to get a released lined up for Conf-Month! (Adobe Max, Google IO, JSConf, etc). On Tue, Apr 16,

Re: iOS ScreenCapture plugin for Cordova

2013-04-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: My only feedback would be to see if you can get it working w/ Plugman! [1] (And if not lets file issues [2] to ensure it can.) [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugman [2] http://issues.cordova.io On Mon

Re: --arc support to create script on iOS

2013-04-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
sgtm On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: I think we plan to default to ARC support for iOS projects post 3.0. As a first transition I'm hoping to add a --arc option to the create script to use optionally starting today, since its necessary for bleeding

Re: board report for april

2013-04-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
ok, cool On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Not totally sure why but I'm getting a message that we have a report for April (even though I don't think we do b/c we should

Re: --arc support to create script on iOS

2013-04-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: sgtm On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: I think we plan to default to ARC support for iOS projects post 3.0. As a first transition I'm hoping to add a --arc option to the create script to use

Re: --arc support to create script on iOS

2013-04-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm down for this. (Given no plugins really work w/ it yet anyhow.) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Should I also change cordova-cli in future to enable by default? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: plugin compat

Re: Spam control in the Wiki

2013-04-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
brianleroux On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Yep works! Thanks shaz also: no more super annoying what city was apache con 2004 held in? questions. Double-win. On 4/16/13 2:39 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I've added - FilMaj - AndrewGrieve -

Re: Spam control in the Wiki

2013-04-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
ya no kidding On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: That's cool! I was getting tired of googling every apache conference since 1970. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Yep works! Thanks shaz also: no more super annoying

Re: BlackBerry BB10 Repos on GitHub

2013-04-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Yep. Could be as simple as a hard reset to the latest SHA from GitHub if the above is fulfilled. (Maybe start it in a new branch on Apache Git for us to review in the meantime.) On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: WRT to BlackBerry since node is already required,

board report for april

2013-04-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Not totally sure why but I'm getting a message that we have a report for April (even though I don't think we do b/c we should be quarterly.) Anyhow. Doesn't matter. I've been tracking stuff here. [1] Let me know if there's anything of note to add. [1]

Re: New directory structure in cordova-cli's future branch

2013-04-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'd rather we did not go ahead w/ the new directory structure. It offers no functional benefit, and comes at an upgrade cost for ppl using the CLI tools today. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: Just catching up on the past week of emails and it's not

Re: [Android] The Deprecation of Froyo

2013-04-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
Lets give this a few days to make sure we're not about hurt anyone. (I'm in favor of removing support.) On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Michael Wolf michael.w...@cynergy.comwrote: Fwiw I wasn't saying 2.3, but 2.2. The consideration of supporting 2.3 goes based on who your consumer base

Re: Node as a dependency for android tooling.

2013-04-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'd rather we saved this for a future refactoring. Bigger fish to fry. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I feel like I am going to be alone on this one again but as far as I am concerned I don't like the idea of introducing a dependency. I think too

Re: iOS: The future of whitelisting

2013-04-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
We recently moved to * by default to ease common userland woe. I'd be in favor of removal of whitelisting but I'm fairly certain that would be a controversial position! On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Kevin Hawkins kevin.hawkins.cord...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Those of us who have been

Re: New directory structure in cordova-cli's future branch

2013-04-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
:( We never had full consensus to do this Braden. On Tuesday, April 9, 2013, Filip Maj wrote: For a couple months now the npm package has had about 1000 downloads per month [1]. We do have upgrade guides in our docs for each version for each platform. Maybe we could add a CLI section? Then

Re: The plugin repos and reality

2013-04-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
to do releases? E.g. 2.7 is missing two plugins since they were moved into different repos. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: That synopsis on the wiki was super helpful Joe. I think we should stop thinking we have to do EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE. We do not need

Re: Introduction

2013-04-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
Right on! Welcome Luke and Erik, great to have more firepower on Cordova. =) On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM, James Jong wjamesj...@gmail.com wrote: Great to have you onboard Luke and Erik. Welcome! -James Jong On Apr 5, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Ken Wallis kwal...@blackberry.com wrote: Great

Re: The plugin repos and reality

2013-04-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
Agree w/ Anis. Just move what can be moved and file up tickets for that which cannot be done in the immediate term / that is in the 'official' list of plugins. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I think a good first pass is to plugin-ize what is plugin-izable

Re: App-Harness Description

2013-03-31 Thread Brian LeRoux
:56 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: cordova-app sounds good to me On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: I don't think we need to decide on an App Store name yet. Repo name sounds good though. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Michael

Re: Farewell

2013-03-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
Thanks so much and don't be stranger Markus! Let us know if ever you need our help. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Lorin Beer lorin.beer@gmail.com wrote: thanks for your hard work, and good luck in your future endeavours! On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com

Re: [cordova-cli] Merges Directory

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
So, what would be better? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013, Giorgio Natili wrote: The naming convention seems confusing also to me especially on big projects. On 3/25/13 10:46 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: I'm apprehensive about returning to a naming convention. In a larger

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
working. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hate to 'make work' but we might want to drop a README in them explaining what is supposed to go there (maybe a link to plugman) and the mailing list before we open those up to speculation. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
Jesse, while I respect our mutual disdain for the Bruins fan that is Mapes, it would be more helpful for all of us to know those implications so we can help while you're out! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Shirley Adams shirleya.fu...@gmail.comwrote: [?] On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:29 AM,

Re: App-Harness Description

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
Looks great Andrew. I'd add Ripple and device mirroring as part of this. (More than one device navigates in concert.) What is this thing going to be called? cordova-app-harness sounds kinky. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Hey Michael (and anyone else

Re: device motion plugin

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
Unfortunate as we thought 2.6 was realistic a few weeks ago but I echo the sentiment. Too soon! Going to kick up a fresh thread on JS. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it should go in for 2.6.0 as well, for the already mentioned reasons. On Mon,

[plugman] js install

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
Steve has plugman working with devicemotion plugin. Happy days! Its time he ripped the JS out of cordova-js and put it in the plugin. But does plugman support js installation? What needs happening to make it so?

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
, then we can advertise them and ask for help. The folks skilled at doing the initial extraction are already here on the dev mailing list. So defer advertising the empty plugin repos until they aren't empty. -- Marcel On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'm

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
\o/ On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Just wanted to send out a quick congratulatory note to the public dev list. We've voted in four new committers in the past week or two, I'm very excited about this! Don Coleman, Max Woghiren, James Jong, and Tommy

Re: App-Harness Description

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
the Cordova framework (which they sort of are), then call it Cordova DX (DX is developer experience). Michael On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Looks great Andrew. I'd add Ripple and device mirroring as part of this. (More than one device navigates in concert

Re: [plugman] js install

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
...@adobe.com wrote: Use the future branch of plugman. That's where braden is putting the symbol mapping work into. On 3/26/13 9:09 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Steve has plugman working with devicemotion plugin. Happy days! Its time he ripped the JS out of cordova-js and put

Re: App-Harness Description

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
cordova-kink PROS: would probably get lots of downloads in the app store CONS: would probably not get accepted into the app store On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I like the kinky version. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
. Braden On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: While this might be our goal it is in no way true that ./platforms ia build artifact today or anytime soon. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.org wrote

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
it could work and have the global only responsible for creating dirs and setting up package.json stuff etc... +1 for looking into this. On 23/03/2013, at 4:53, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Right now the global executable is version locked to a Cordova release. If you have

Re: [plugman] js install

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
that today, but we decided not to try to cherry-pick that change into 2.6.x. It's harmless for the main function of cordova-js, but it means that the future branch of the CLI tools won't work with the released 2.6. Braden On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.org wrote: Congratulations! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: \o/ On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Just wanted

Re: App-Harness Description

2013-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
omg. yes! cordova-webkeg I can see the Yohei style app icon already.. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Douglas Campos q...@qmx.me wrote: On 26/03/2013, at 16:13, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: My vote is for WebKeg THIS -- qmx

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
app distribution (such that say cordova create path-to-app), we would need to support importing from an app folder (for the two folder merges and www reason alone). Yet we currently plan to unpack that app folder inside the workspace. -Michal On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Brian LeRoux b

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
(Btw this isn't a vote thread guys.) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: So, what if you want to version the ./platorms folder? I don't like it, but ppl will do. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:10 AM, James Jong wjamesj...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for app folder

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think its useful for us to have the conversation, but lets not forget that we're going to be moving to this plugin reality so what gets supported and doesn't isn't as big of a deal. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Lorin Beer lorin.beer@gmail.com wrote: hrm, that makes things trickier. Our

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
work fine. Braden On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: (Btw this isn't a vote thread guys.) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: So, what if you want to version the ./platorms folder? I don't like it, but ppl will do

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
wanted to separate the permissions so that Cordova apps don't ask for everything all the time, but only what they actually need. -1 to installing all the core plugins by default, and to lockstep versioning them to the tools. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
miscellany in the git repo won't be part of the app. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Ok, let me try again. What is precisely problem we are solving by changing the structure? To be clear, I'm not really against or for it. I just don't understand why

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
of extra build artifact cruft in your git repo, or your devs just have to know that platforms/ and plugins/ are in .gitignore. Braden On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: But, if you go up one level, the same is true w/ the current structure. Its just

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm going to guess 'too soon' given there are no platform scripts as of yet but leave that to Herm to qualify. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Where does firefox os fit in in here? On 3/24/13 8:21 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Thanks Steve! On Sunday

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
plugins separated. I know PhoneGap Day is in July, and I agree 3.0 for PGD is a great goal, but a major version number bump shouldn't indicate that time has elapsed. There should be some excitement behind it! :) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: No no. You must

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
Check out the other platforms. Things have standardized on ./bin/create and in a generated project ./cordova/*. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Benn Mapes benn.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Right now most of the scripts for windows phone except create are in /tooling/scripts/ and there are duplicate

Re: [cordova-cli] Merges Directory

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm apprehensive about returning to a naming convention. In a larger app this would lead to a very cluttered dir. The other consideration for ./merges are other assets: icons, and splashscreens. (Which would then require 2x or something for retina/hdpi situations.) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:34

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hate to 'make work' but we might want to drop a README in them explaining what is supposed to go there (maybe a link to plugman) and the mailing list before we open those up to speculation. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Michael Brooks mich...@michaelbrooks.ca wrote: Would it make sense to

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
for it to be in the www folder so that the www folder can go straight to build.phonegap.com. On 23/03/2013, at 9:15 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'm ok with ./merges at the same level as ./www but the config.xml inside of ./www bugs me too. I think having a root level ./www just

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

2013-03-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
\o/ On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Cool! Now we need to populate them at least as fast as it took to get them created :-) On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@google.com wrote: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5839

Re: [cordova-cli] - check_req's should move into the platforms.

2013-03-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Heifetz jheif...@blackberry.comwrote: +1 On 13-03-22 1:32 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Propose we add ./bin/check_requirements to each platforms in 2.7

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
Thanks Steve! On Sunday, March 24, 2013, Steven Gill wrote: Yup On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Good enough for me. Steve you got that? On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Jesse MacFadyen purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for windows 8

[cordova-cli] - check_req's should move into the platforms.

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Propose we add ./bin/check_requirements to each platforms in 2.7 timeframe so as to remove that logic from the cordova-cli tool.

[cordova-cli] - config.xml handling: should that move into ./bin scripts?

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Right now the cordova-cli has a lot of logic looking at parsing the config.xml and some stuff is existing in the platforms. This is more of a discussion thread for that. I don't have any concrete to talk about here but Fil can elaborate.

[cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Right now we put the release of Cordova into the npm package for cordova-cli and we version lock the two. (Codova/CLI 2.5.x === Cordova/Platform 2.5.latest). We did this because: - has to work offline - cannot have a Git dep to do development - issue tracking locked to the real version of

[cordova-cli] versioning

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Right now the global executable is version locked to a Cordova release. If you have a project running 2.5 you are required to have Cordova/CLI 2.5. If you need to then work in Cordova 2.4 you need to downgrade (not really but you would to be safe). In Grunt .4 the global executable is dumb. It

[cordova-cli] ripple instead of serve

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think this bleeds back into other discussions. It was mentioned in the call earlier. I think some tacit agreement that ./serve goes away and Ripple is the default ./emulate command. But lets discuss. (Just this. Lets keep thread focused.)

[cordova-cli] - what does the plugins folder do?

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
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[cordova-cli] - rewrite Blackberry and Android scripts in Node to minimize surface for inconsistencies

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Thoughts? I'm down. But maybe post 3.x since neither is a real issue atm.

[cordova-cli] windows phone 8, firefox os, webos are at a disadvantage

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
None have support currently in the CLI tools. - Herm is pursuing platform level scripts so support for FxOS can happen. - Mapes is doing the same in Windows land. Both cases we could use some help. If any on this list care about those platforms and would like to pitch in this is the thread to

[plugman] universe and plugin version support needed

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
I am sure we all agree to this. Want to get a sense of how it will happen. Anis you mentioned you need Braden to commit the JS stuff first?

Re: [plugman] universe and plugin version support needed

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
A plugin should specify the Cordova versions it supports too. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I am sure we all agree to this. Want to get a sense of how it will happen. Anis you mentioned you need Braden to commit the JS stuff first?

[plugman] logic to support a repo that has more than one plugin

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Would have the benefit of enabling a plugin, and plugin-test existence in a single repo. Consolidates a lot of tooling. Lets discuss more herein

Re: [cordova-cli] - what does the plugins folder do?

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
22, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: ...

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
propose a flag like cordova platform add android --target=../../cordova-android where that local directory can have whatever locally patched code I want. Braden On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Right now we put the release of Cordova into the npm package

Re: [cordova-cli] ripple instead of serve

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
if we don't have the build dependencies. Emulate would just default to ripple so is still usable if we can't build/deploy Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-22, at 1:55 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I think this bleeds back into other discussions. It was mentioned in the call earlier

Re: [plugman] logic to support a repo that has more than one plugin

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm into it. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Max Woghiren m...@chromium.org wrote: The main technical ask here is the ability to specify a plugin as { git repo, commit hash, subdirectory } instead of just { git repo, commit hash }. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
that we also include some set of plugins inside of cordova-cli? On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: It big. Certainly would be more efficient to lazy load, and cache so offline works. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [cordova-cli] - what does the plugins folder do?

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
on every prepare. That's not currently true for native code, but it is for the rest. Since we're doing that, we need the full content of the plugins to stick around. Is there a problem with keeping this around? Braden On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Cool

Re: [plugman] universe and plugin version support needed

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
a list of compatible cordova versions, right? Then the universe can manage a reverse mapping if it wants fast access. -Michal On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: A plugin should specify the Cordova versions it supports too. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM

2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Currently a release consists of some boilerplate: DISCLAIMER LICENSE NOTICE README.md changelog And the guts: cordova-android.zip cordova-app-hello-world.zip cordova-bada-wac.zip cordova-bada.zip cordova-blackberry.zip cordova-cli.zip cordova-docs.zip cordova-ios.zip cordova-js.zip

Re: [cordova-cli] ripple instead of serve

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
at 2:15 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: omg I just realized this would fulfill offline use case vs lazy load vendoring caching could be a future thing might be a really nice path On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Platform-level command line scripts ;)

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
one (5 to 10 seconds) if multiple emulators are running. * Start emulator. If you have multiple ones set up (Android's case), prompt, timeout and launch first one (5 to 10 seconds). Yes/no/discuss. Let's try to get to a consensus :) On 3/21/13 5:29 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Given that plugins will be independently versioned once they break off I think it will be a whole new world for where we focus our efforts next year. I suspect most of what you propose will be without contention. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Hey I'm

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
?) -Michal On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Good question. My intuition is saying for as long as 3.x is around we preload w/ core plugins. We'll do as such w/ the PhoneGap distribution to minimize pain. Once ppl are used to the tools they'll be asking

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm ok with ./merges at the same level as ./www but the config.xml inside of ./www bugs me too. I think having a root level ./www just works well mentally in that its obvious whats there, what it does, and who it effects. The ./merges folder is really just stuff that gets added to ./www in the

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
will create issues for coho in regards to this. -Steve On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.comjavascript:; wrote: +1 On 3/22/13 2:26 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: Currently a release consists of some boilerplate

Re: tag 2.6.0rc1 soon?

2013-03-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
/cordova-docs/pull/24 https://github.com/apache/cordova-js/pull/21 https://github.com/apache/cordova-ios/pull/35 https://github.com/apache/cordova-android/pull/35 https://github.com/apache/cordova-mobile-spec/pull/13 -James Jong On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Ya

Re: tag 2.6.0rc1 soon?

2013-03-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
like the idea of putting this doc into the docs.cordova.io docs? Or do we prefer to keep contributor-related things in the wiki? If the latter, it can wait, but if the former then I should probably commit it very soon. Braden On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote

Re: Platform-level command line scripts ;)

2013-03-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
Ya tend to agree w/ the workflows you describe Jesse. Not at the exlusion of discreet scripts however. We probably should have small focused scripts and then compose the workflow scripts from them. (Making it easier to test and compose new scripts and tooling.) On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM,

Re: Platform-level command line scripts

2013-03-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think we can have our cake and eat it too. We should have four high level commands. Those commands can shell to lower level discreetly testable commands. The end user will never know the difference. The developers win the tight abstraction we seek. Make sense? On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM,

Re: archiving older platforms

2013-03-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
stewarded? Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-21, at 6:00 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: +1 On 3/21/13 2:12 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: +1 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io

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