Re: Cordova-Android 3.7.0 Blog Post

2015-02-03 Thread Michal Mocny
Its nice when people have a place to look up what changed when they notice a new version is out. (Also, when we do a tools release and updated pinned platforms, we can point back to these posts). Additionally, some of our users have come to this list asking for a blog post just recently, so its

Re: Cordova Android 3.7.0 Release

2015-01-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Indeed. Tools have a pinned version which they prefer to install by default (so that we can be confident about compatibility). You can try cordova platform add android@3.7.0 to be explicit about the new version, and the tooling release next week will update the default pin. Pinning may go away

Cordova Hangout Meeting Notes (January 2015)

2015-01-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Great meeting everyone, lots discussed and lots established. Here is a link to the YouTube archive: http://youtu.be/NAYhX--EdMY Here are the meeting notes: *Meeting Notes - AI: PR to add api target change to android 3.7 blog post- AI: Tools release next week to pin android 3.7 by default- AI:

Re: Browserify what's left proposal

2015-01-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Steve, thanks for putting this proposal together. Things to discuss that came up at the meetup today: - What does it mean to --link plugins? - Will this change affect Ripple? - How do we migrate cordova-js without breaking old platforms/tools? Additionally, Steve would love assistance with

Re: Cordova Hangout Meeting Notes (January 2015)

2015-01-29 Thread Michal Mocny
with Gorkem’s changes • Medic Nightly CI (Parashuram) ◦ • Phase 2: adding package.json • New Faces: ◦ Nikhil (PR for browser platform, waiting on review) ◦ Mefire (PR for save/restore) ◦ Murat (--list, jshint, cordova-android for windows) On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com

DISCUSS: Phase 1 deprecation of Cordova Plugin Registry Idea

2015-01-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Ideas came up in the Meetup today, so I wrote up a new doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12WAXJa6jfY3BnNHGieK9QOqvZ6cl3OXmP-9DpYkcmfs/edit?usp=sharing Please chime in! -Michal

Re: cordova-lib version == cordova-cli version?

2015-01-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Yeah I think thats fine. Even if we break cordova-lib up into pieces, we will still need to maintain compatibility, and so will always be the one to join the pieces together and dictate the semver. In hindsight maybe it would have been better to merge plugman code into cordova-cli instead of

Re: DISCUSS: Phase 1 deprecation of Cordova Plugin Registry Idea

2015-01-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Sorry! Will fix. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: It is set to view only. Can't comment. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: Ideas came up in the Meetup today, so I wrote up a new doc: https

Re: [Proposal] Publishing plugins to NPM top level package.json for cordova projects

2015-01-28 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks for putting this together Steve! Gives us something concrete to debate ;) On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, In preparation of the upcoming hangout this Thursday, here is my proposal on publishing plugins to npm (Phase 1) and adding a

Re: Monthly Hangouts - Jan 2015 Edition

2015-01-23 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks Parashuram for coordinating. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: Wanted to bump up the thread about the Cordova hangouts. A lot of people have responded, and looks like the following times are candidates. - Monday 26 Jan 2015,

Re: platforms/plugins save and restore from config.xml

2015-01-22 Thread Michal Mocny
Sorry about that! Of course. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for creating the agenda! Could you make it writable? On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Indeed! Heres a gdoc for agenda: https

Re: Cordova/PhoneGap Local Install

2015-01-21 Thread Michal Mocny
There was also a recent mailing list thread here about a cordova-local utility someone wrote, which supports installing cordova-cli's locally within projects and calling into them automatically from a wrapper. I haven't tried it, but it could be a more similar workflow to the standard cordova-cli

Re: Cordova/PhoneGap Local Install

2015-01-21 Thread Michal Mocny
with useful updates. -Michal On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: There was also a recent mailing list thread here about a cordova-local utility someone wrote, which supports installing cordova-cli's locally within projects and calling into them automatically from

Re: platforms/plugins save and restore from config.xml

2015-01-20 Thread Michal Mocny
Indeed! Heres a gdoc for agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h4KKT0oc70BE57eJ7Bmn4c-at7dH20g0KxTKvlyvIZU/edit?usp=sharing We can plan the time in a separate thread. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Hangout sounds great. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015

Re: Introduction

2015-01-14 Thread Michal Mocny
Glad to meet you, thanks for the patch! On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Welcome Nikhil! On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome Nikhil! On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal

Re: Deprecation Wars: ICS vs Gingerbread

2015-01-13 Thread Michal Mocny
Does it really matter? I think Joe summarized it best, we can only claim to support what is actually being supported (aka actively tested, actively maintained). Market share doesn't impact that. Not that we should not actively break 2.3 support, but with 3.7 on the horizon, and big changes

Re: Deprecation Wars: ICS vs Gingerbread

2015-01-13 Thread Michal Mocny
, coupled with many webviews and we have a very solid forward looking release. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Does it really matter? I think Joe summarized it best, we can only claim to support what is actually being

Re: MobileSpec for testing cordova-lib@rc

2015-01-12 Thread Michal Mocny
, auto adding from node_modules sounds good. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: So, `npm install` will look at the project root package.json and install all dependencies in the npm package format. `cordova plugin add` will take the plugin_ID

Re: MobileSpec for testing cordova-lib@rc

2015-01-09 Thread Michal Mocny
, Mark Koudritsky kam...@google.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: If we add node_modules to search path, will we be able to adjust which versions of platforms/plugins it uses just by modifying package.json

Automatically installing missing platforms from cli

2015-01-09 Thread Michal Mocny
I'd like to have cordova-cli automatically install missing platforms when it is obvious that the platform is required. i.e.: cordova create Foo cd Foo cordova run ios ..should just `cordova platform add ios` automatically. It appears that this was already added to phonegap-cli. Would Adobe

Re: platforms/plugins save and restore from config.xml

2015-01-09 Thread Michal Mocny
-1 on removing experimental. I love the concept behind this feature, and I applaud Gorkem for actually working on pushing it forward, but I'm still concerned the current design is not perfect. Just today we were discussing storing the list of plugins into a package.json if plugins move to npm.

Re: Automatically installing missing platforms from cli

2015-01-09 Thread Michal Mocny
-cli, then follow up with a pull request for review. Cheers, Michael On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: I'd like to have cordova-cli automatically install missing platforms when it is obvious that the platform is required. i.e.: cordova create Foo

Re: platforms/plugins save and restore from config.xml

2015-01-09 Thread Michal Mocny
Automatic restore could just happen on prepare. We do this for CCA and its worked very well. It would not directly affect the `cordova run not-yet-added-platform` feature. -Michal On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Leo wrote: I had asked some questions

Re: platforms/plugins save and restore from config.xml

2015-01-09 Thread Michal Mocny
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 Jan 2015, at 13:35, Michal Mocny wrote: -1 on removing experimental. I love the concept behind this feature, and I applaud Gorkem for actually working on pushing it forward, Thanks just trying to help

Re: proposed utility

2015-01-09 Thread Michal Mocny
I like the way gulp works: the same package acts different when installed globally/locally. Namely, the global always shells work off to the local. So, instead of a separate cordova-local utility (akin to grunt and grunt-cli), perhaps we just add your feature directly into cordova-cli? For

Re: Deprecation Wars: ICS vs Gingerbread

2015-01-08 Thread Michal Mocny
I think Joe was saying that since we usually deprecate at 5%, we are ~2/3% off from that mark. -Michal On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Er, are we looking at the same data? I see Gingerbread at 7.8% and ICS at 6.7% at that URL. Data collected during a

Re: Deprecation Wars: ICS vs Gingerbread

2015-01-08 Thread Michal Mocny
Also I no longer test Gingerbread unless explicitly investigating an issue (and even then, last time was maybe a year ago). CCA apps have never targeted 2.3. On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: My biased 2cents: Gingerbread may still have business sense

Re: Deprecation Wars: ICS vs Gingerbread

2015-01-08 Thread Michal Mocny
My biased 2cents: Gingerbread may still have business sense in some cases, but for new cordova apps, I can't see how it is justifiable. If you are maintaining a legacy app, you can stick to your older cordova version. If you are creating a new app that needs to target 2.3 (or 2.2 even) and still

Re: Browser platform and unsupported plugins

2015-01-08 Thread Michal Mocny
Sergey, I think you have it right: use the underlying Browser implementation if possible, or call fail() otherwise is the right solution for cordova-browser implementations. Ripple will stub out its own implementation if it wants to control a fake data stream. Mixing fake data into

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-12-15 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks Steven. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: For the lazy: cordova_plugins.js discussion https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/CB-8153 On Dec 14, 2014 6:58 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Lets discuss

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-12-14 Thread Michal Mocny
Lets discuss the cordova_plugins.js thing elsewhere, this thread has forked a lot already. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: This is the part that I like the most: and start writing plugins as proper node modules. Maybe even push them to npm and

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-12-12 Thread Michal Mocny
not like to lose this metadata for future-proofing. Filed CB-8153. -Michal On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu Dec 11 2014 at 9:29:08 PM Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote

Re: How to handle CSP for XHR in Cordova 4.0

2014-12-12 Thread Michal Mocny
I'm fine with 1. coupled with a default CSP in the template application. For older apps not written from scratch, we can perhaps strongly suggest installing the legacy-whitelist, which would change the default-open behaviour to default-closed. Together, that would give sensible defaults that

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-12-11 Thread Michal Mocny
, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I think Ally may be confusing what this does?: This browserify work is not a way to get cordova to run in a desktop browser, its just a means for packaging cordova.js. I think there should

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Do we prefer to invent new cordova-specific apis, or prefer to match standard browser apis? When there is no browser spec to match then design comes down to aesthetics and personal preference (as you say). But often there is an existing browser spec, and then it comes down to match or fork. I'm

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-10 Thread Michal Mocny
for the plugin loader load order …but also sort of scary… reminds me of script tags hell on that note: we need to make browserify thing first class. whats the hold up on that front? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Do we prefer to invent new cordova

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-10 Thread Michal Mocny
, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: We haven't worked on it, also curious. Anis, perhaps? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: def think we should support those specs in our great and fabled api audit…had not considered the load order issue

Re: Cordova Mocks

2014-12-09 Thread Michal Mocny
Hey pretty sweet. Looks like this is the magic: https://github.com/pbernasconi/chrome-cordova/blob/master/dist/scripts/cordova.js Its more like cordova-browser than a proxy to chrome packaged app apis, so I'm not sure its as useful now as it was before cordova-browser. -Michal On Tue, Dec 9,

Re: Code Review Plz

2014-12-08 Thread Michal Mocny
Sorry didn't answer. I looked a week ago and liked the design and rationale, but don't have existing apps actually using the feature to test on. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take a look on Monday. Spent this week bashing my head against my desk

Re: Buildbot for Cordova on Apache Infra - Update

2014-12-08 Thread Michal Mocny
We've already got a lab and slaves but its been in a rather sorry state of disrepair (http://ci.cordova.io/). Would gladly put in the effort to clean up and report to the new master. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: Awesome -

Re: 4.0 Sprint Tasks (Another Hey, let's ship 4.0.x soon post)

2014-12-08 Thread Michal Mocny
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Hey After messing with the JS for a week, I decided for now to stop work on MozillaView. I think I've managed to prove that the concept is at least possible, but I really feel that it's still too unstable to actually show

Re: Introduction

2014-12-03 Thread Michal Mocny
Hi Dmitry! Took a quick scan of your file-transfer tests cleanup. Looking great! Thanks for putting in the effort there, much appreciated. -Michal On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome aboard Dmitry, and congrats on your job at Microsoft. Happy to

Re: [Android] MozillaView Update: PoC is working

2014-12-02 Thread Michal Mocny
Also clobbers and merges implies runs. runs is especially useful for startup work that has to delay deviceready. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: It's used in some core plugins as a reference: $ grep -r 'run' *plugin*/plugin.xml | sort | uniq

FYI: Created a plugin to help with local plugin development

2014-12-01 Thread Michal Mocny
Took the opportunity to use our new plugin hooks and created a plugin to automate a tedious task I've been doing a lot of recently: plugin re-installation. https://github.com/mmocny/cordova-plugin-plugin-auto-upgrade As per the README: This plugin with automatically upgrade

Re: Notification in dialog plugin

2014-11-26 Thread Michal Mocny
+1, I think we shouldn't change the navigator.notifications interface, but the name of the internal type is unlikely to break anyone. Can do a major version bump on the plugin just in case. -Michal On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: ya this is legacy pain; the

Re: introduction

2014-11-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Great introduction, thanks for contributing. -Michal On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Lucas Gonze lu...@gonze.com wrote: Thanks, Jesse! That's super nice. In my copious spare time I play music. On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome Lucas! Your

Re: official bluetooth plugin

2014-11-24 Thread Michal Mocny
And yet more options: - chrome.bluetooth - https://github.com/MobileChromeApps/mobile-chrome-apps/tree/master/chrome-cordova/plugins/chrome.bluetooth - chrome.bluetoothLowEnergy - https://github.com/MobileChromeApps/mobile-chrome-apps/tree/master/chrome-cordova/plugins/chrome.bluetoothLowEnergy

Re: Running browser platform in Linux

2014-11-24 Thread Michal Mocny
I've updated the PR with comments. Thanks for solving the issue with start page and adding support for linux! On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Victor Sosa sosah.vic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Michal. Have you had time to look at this PR? 2014-11-10 9:08 GMT-06:00 Michal Mocny mmo

Re: Grabbing logs from superspawn.js in cordova-lib

2014-11-24 Thread Michal Mocny
..and I just tried with { stdio: 'default' } and the current run.js implementation doesn't actually support a callback for spawn, nor return the promise result. This line: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/blob/master/cordova-lib/src/cordova/run.js#L44 should be returning a promise which,

Re: Firefox OS problem

2014-11-24 Thread Michal Mocny
[[Stupid User] Problem] or [Stupid [User Problem]] ? ;) On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:32 AM, John M. Wargo jwarg...@gmail.com wrote: Nevermind. Stupid User Problem. Original Message Subject:Firefox OS problem Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 21:27:40 -0500 From: John M.

Re: Introduction

2014-11-24 Thread Michal Mocny
Excited to have you on board, Omar. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Happy to have you help out Omar! On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome Omar! @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at

Re: Introduction

2014-11-24 Thread Michal Mocny
Awesome way to introduce yourself, with a commit! (We should suggest this in our docs ;) Thank you Tim, and glad to meet you! On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Tim Barham tim.bar...@microsoft.com wrote: Thanks for the welcomes, everyone. And thanks for the pull, Jesse! Tim -Original

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Michal Mocny
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: On 11/15/14, 2:17 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Not at all. What is it you think we are proposing? I'm merely suggesting that the cordova-browser camera plugin implementation shouldn't *also* come

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Michal Mocny
, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: On 11/15/14, 2:17 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Not at all. What is it you think we are proposing? I'm merely suggesting

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-17 Thread Michal Mocny
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: On 11/15/14, 2:17 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Ray, I think (hope) you are slightly misreading the distinction. Trying to rephrase: Ripple is an (optional) tool for mobile-device-emulation. It just

Re: I've fixed an issue. What's next?

2014-11-15 Thread Michal Mocny
plugman info org.apache.cordova.inappbrowser Returns a list of published plugin versions, a set of supported platforms, and a set of engine requirements for the current version plugman info org.apache.cordova.inappbrowser@0.5.3 Returns info for a particular older version. With these tools,

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-15 Thread Michal Mocny
, Nov 14, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: I¹m pretty late to responding to this thread, but I wanted to throw in a few comments. In the first msg, Michal Mocny said this: Basically, browser-platform is for getting apps running in a browser (duh) with as much working

Re: cordova-browser plugin polyfills -- which projects already have work in this space?

2014-11-14 Thread Michal Mocny
browse the plugins by just filtering the platform. 2014-11-05 10:53 GMT-06:00 Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org: Cool! But I can't find how to do this with browse all plugins. Appears to be a filter option on search results but cannot search for * or . -- and the filter doesn't persist

Re: cordova-browser plugin polyfills -- which projects already have work in this space?

2014-11-14 Thread Michal Mocny
for it to Barcode too. :) On 11/14/14, 10:34 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Ray, thanks for adding this. Using it, I found: https://github.com/Binarypark/cordova_app_version_plugin which is the first non-core plugin to claim browser support :) (which, by the way, is both crazy

Re: Suggestion: Warning about usage of patterns that conflict with the Firefox OS CSP

2014-11-12 Thread Michal Mocny
We could add meta http-equiv=Content-Security-Policy content=.. to the default template, or create a plugin that injects it automatically and try to get developers to install that plugin. This has some benefits for security of cordova apps and has been brought up on these lists in that context

Re: introduction

2014-11-12 Thread Michal Mocny
Hi Jonathan! Seems you've been a lurker on these lists for a while and have helped submit issues in the past. Thanks for signing up to contribute directly. -Michal On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Li, Jonathan jonathan...@sap.com wrote: Hi all, I'm getting myself set up as a contributor to

Re: plugin.xml config-file for json files

2014-11-11 Thread Michal Mocny
I'd also recommend hooks for now. json-file tag sounds potentially more resilient to change, but since you have to explicitly reference the path to target I don't think its any better in practice. Additionally, we've expressed interest in replacing our xml based configs with json manifests, and

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-10 Thread Michal Mocny
belong there. This echo's my views on the Browser Platform and Ripple as well. Ideally, the Browser Platform is a production deployment environment for the web, while Ripple is debugging instrumentation that runs on the Browser Platform. On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Michal Mocny mmo

Re: Running browser platform in Linux

2014-11-10 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: Sorry for not being clear. I was saying that we should not open the file:// URL in a specific browser. We should ideally spin up a webserver and open the default browser on the system Why a

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Our policy has historically been to drop support if usage is under 5%. There some amount of leeway in judgement here as well: is it trivial to continue support or causing us pain? For iOS, 5% of usage comes from iOS6 or below as reported by https://developer.apple.com/support/appstore/. I'd

Re: [iOS 8] WKWebView moving forward

2014-11-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Success! I did indeed have to add the framework manually. Thanks for instructions. On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: There have been major changes to the `wkwebview` branch of `cordova-ios`. The `WKWebView` functionality has been moved to a plugin in the

Cordova 8th most explicitly installed npm package!

2014-11-06 Thread Michal Mocny
Article: http://blog.npmjs.org/post/101775448305/npm-and-front-end-packaging List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LyRwn6E8k7NM5bw2hJ7pWD7BWjgN_EskQ0ZMNphrffE/edit#gid=0 Woot! Some other interesting tidbits in the article. -Michal

cordova-browser plugin polyfills -- which projects already have work in this space?

2014-11-05 Thread Michal Mocny
Hi All, So there's this new cordova-browser platform thing, which is awesome. I wanted to get the ball rolling on full plugin support for browser platform (thanks to Suraj Pindoria + other Adobe folk for the great work so far). I know a bunch of people/teams have independently solved a lot of

Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-05 Thread Michal Mocny
We debated a bit about browser vs ripple at phonegap day (especially Intel folks who have done lots of work here), and the my personal tldr; is that there is in fact a home for both. Basically, browser-platform is for getting apps running in a browser (duh) with as much working functionality as

Re: Cordova: Comment on Deleting hidekeyboard and showkeyboard Events

2014-11-05 Thread Michal Mocny
Telling people to turn to [insert any project from the external community] for [a feature we used to support but is now openly supported elsewhere] -- sounds amazing to me. What happened to the goal of eventually cease to exist? On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com

Re: cordova-browser plugin polyfills -- which projects already have work in this space?

2014-11-05 Thread Michal Mocny
an FYI, plugins.cordova.io can now filter to plugins that support browser as a platform. This could be used to figure out what plugins have added support. On 11/5/14, 9:57 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: The process for implementing a browser polyfill (I'm new to this, may

Re: Whitelist breakout update

2014-11-04 Thread Michal Mocny
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Since the whitelist plugin blocks only a subset of sub-resource loads (just like the existing whitelists), I think we really want to call out that people should not just include the backwards-compatible plugin. Here's a

Re: Different languages on social channels

2014-11-03 Thread Michal Mocny
I'm not sure I understand. What specifically is the request? I'm not sure what a social handler is. On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Victor Sosa sosah.vic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello community. I've been noticing that the PhoneGap, and others as well, social handlers for different languages

Re: InAppBrowser insertCSS/executeScript with file option code example is confusing

2014-11-03 Thread Michal Mocny
Taking a quick look at the InAppBrowser.java Android implementation, seems we just inject a script tag with its src set to exactly what you provided as the url. Since the src is relative to the IAB page, I would imagine the examples as written are misleading. I'm not sure if its possible to

Re: Different languages on social channels

2014-11-03 Thread Michal Mocny
wrote: I think what Victor is saying that there is a phonegap twitter handle for example for spanish (https://twitter.com/phonegapspain) but there is only the Cordova twitter handle for English. [image: Inactive hide details for Michal Mocny ---11/03/2014 10:37:49 AM---I'm not sure I

Re: cordova xxx add - is there a problem?

2014-11-03 Thread Michal Mocny
] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:25 AM To: dev Cc: Treggiari, Leo Subject: Re: cordova xxx add - is there a problem? I'm not sure that we should change the cordova plugin/platform add cli command to not actually make the changes to platforms/ or plugins/, but since

Re: Documentation generation in pure Node.JS

2014-11-03 Thread Michal Mocny
Just tried it using the steps Shaz listed on the PR and its working for me fine. However, there are some warnings during generation (bunch of Did not found link for the keyword), and the generated pages appear to have some links missing (such as the first page, Guides do not link to anything).

Re: [mobile-spec] consistency and reliability

2014-11-03 Thread Michal Mocny
I thought tap was just a format for reporting test results? I think the problem is that we have some poorly written tests and the framework is not recovering well. Any reporting format is orthogonal (unless perhaps the bug is specific to the jasmine-html reporter, but I'm not sure there is any

Re: cordova xxx add - is there a problem?

2014-11-03 Thread Michal Mocny
-prepare or --save-only type flag for the add commands. This would work as long as developers remembered to us it when necessary. Thanks, Leo *From:* mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] *On Behalf Of *Michal Mocny *Sent:* Monday, November 03, 2014 12:10 PM *To:* dev *Cc

Re: Whitelist breakout update

2014-11-03 Thread Michal Mocny
Sounds great Ian! Very elegant actually. Suggestion: patch cordova-cli to warn if there is an access tag and no cordova-plugin-whitelist? -Michal On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds very interesting and relatively graceful. For a user

Re: [mobile-spec] consistency and reliability

2014-10-30 Thread Michal Mocny
I've seen that in the past and it usually happens due to misuse of jasmine, which seems unfortunately quite brittle. Specifically, if done() isn't called, or an async event fires after a test has already failed / timed out and calls done(), or registers new tests with it() etc, weird things will

Re: introduction

2014-10-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Pleasure to meet you, thanks for saying hello! Do you have any particular interests of focus? Any specific platforms or tooling features? Perhaps interested in starting out with documentation or tests? -Michal On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome Alan!

Re: MozillaView update, bridge questions

2014-10-29 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Unfortunately, I don't have anything working yet for the new MozillaView, but because MozillaView is so radically different than any other view, I've been forced to re-think some things with our current exec script in

Re: MozillaView update, bridge questions

2014-10-29 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed Oct 29 2014 at 10:58:08 AM Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Unfortunately, I don't have anything working yet for the new

Re: MozillaView update, bridge questions

2014-10-29 Thread Michal Mocny
a nested encoding for composing plugin results: LENGTH:Payload:LENGTH:Payload or something? On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Unfortunately, I don't have anything working yet

Re: MozillaView update, bridge questions

2014-10-29 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: PROMPT isn't the default bridge, addJavaScriptInterface is. We

Re: PhoneGap day

2014-10-19 Thread Michal Mocny
+1 On Oct 19, 2014 1:38 AM, James Litten insydneyja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jesse, Where is Phonegap day being held ? On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Who all is coming? I will be there for my first ever phonegap day. I've only been working

Re: Lolipop Changes

2014-10-19 Thread Michal Mocny
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/lollipop.html#WebView WebView will auto update through play store. On Oct 17, 2014 12:44 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: So, Lolipop is landing and here are the changes: http://developer.android.com/sdk/api_diff/preview-21/changes.html It

Re: Measuring Perf of Cordova apps (Android/iOS)

2014-10-14 Thread Michal Mocny
Very cool Parashuram. How did you test WkWebView? non-cordova? Also, the results have different labels on iOS/Android, which I assume means you are just reporting what the tools report. Would you consider mapping the values which have direct parallels to the same labels so we can do more

Re: Review: Cordova-CLI 4.0.0 Release blog post

2014-10-14 Thread Michal Mocny
Well done. One meta-comment: We highlight that the 4.0 CLI release is a reflection of our independent platform release direction, yet all the platforms are updating and set to the same version (3.6.4). Would be useful to point out that this is one last synchronized release? -Michal On Tue, Oct

Re: Review: Cordova-CLI 4.0.0 Release blog post

2014-10-14 Thread Michal Mocny
.. also `cordova info` is not listing my platform versions. `cordova platform ls` does. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Well done. One meta-comment: We highlight that the 4.0 CLI release is a reflection of our independent platform release direction

Re: [iOS] tests

2014-10-11 Thread Michal Mocny
Sweet. How do we run (2)? On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: They have been converted to jasmine. Right now there are two test suites: 1. cordova-lib tests (runs the unit tests) 2. create tests (tests different ways to create a project)

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-10 Thread Michal Mocny
-Original Message- From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengil...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:13 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Cc: Michal Mocny; Marcel Kinard Subject: Re: Independent platform release summary I think vladimir fixed the bug. We

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-10 Thread Michal Mocny
update it, every time I add a platform or ‘core’ plugin, I get the same thing. Leo *From:* mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] *On Behalf Of *Michal Mocny *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:47 PM *To:* Treggiari, Leo *Cc:* Michal Mocny; Marcel Kinard; dev *Subject:* Re

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-10 Thread Michal Mocny
respective $BIGCO's confuse that to their and our continued strife.) (All IMO of course, happy to follow the wisdom of the crowd on this one.) On Oct 10, 2014 9:29 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: 5 is also fine. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-10 Thread Michal Mocny
, 2014 9:29 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: 5 is also fine. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I am against it. Its not going to achieve the goal of alleviating confusion. People see the CLI as the version not the platforms. I'd rather we

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-10 Thread Michal Mocny
move to named releases externally. Cordova MX === 4.0 Cordova Mexico? On Oct 10, 2014 10:03 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: 4 was also discussed as fine, and in isolation would have been our choice for sure -- but we worried

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-09 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Thanks everyone for participation in what was a long and grueling discussion. Summary of current proposal: - Cad-ver is dead. - Everything moves Sem-ver, with platforms continuing from current versions and diverging

Re: FW: Adding Windows tests to ci.cordova.io

2014-10-08 Thread Michal Mocny
:* mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] *On Behalf Of *Michal Mocny *Sent:* Tuesday, October 7, 2014 6:06 PM *To:* Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH); Max Woghiren *Cc:* dev@cordova.apache.org *Subject:* Re: FW: Adding Windows tests to ci.cordova.io David from our team historically

Re: re

2014-10-08 Thread Michal Mocny
I didn't see that message on the lists until Jesse forwarded it. (may have been in spam?) On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Not me this time! :) On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:48 AM, purplecabbage purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, did you approve

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