Re: plugin-test-framework PRs

2014-08-01 Thread Michal Mocny
of this, it would be awesome. Thanks, Best Regards, Martin 2014-07-30 10:44 GMT-05:00 Staci Cooper staci@gmail.com: Sounds good, I'll get started. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Things to help move this along: - Move

Re: Experimenting with JSCS + JSHint in cordova-lib

2014-08-01 Thread Michal Mocny
lgtm On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: All three parts look good to me! On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Mark Koudritsky kam...@google.com wrote: With and empty config file JSCS would emit no errors whatsoever. As more options are added, the more

Re: How to provide more files from plugin.xml for project and native?

2014-07-30 Thread Michal Mocny
First, the easy one: Certainly you should have a way to drop files into platforms/ios/HelloCordova, and I think source-file is probably the way to go. The root seems to be the plugin folder by default, so you may need to prefix with ../.. right now. Also seems hacky, not sure if there is a

Re: missing documentation and missing major version bump

2014-07-30 Thread Michal Mocny
Bryan: Awesome! Super glad everything is sensibly resolved. Carlos: Thats pretty common practice with unix tools: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11376/what-does-double-dash-mean-also-known-as-bare-double-dash so I think its pretty sweet that we are not using some cordova-specific flag

Re: plugin-test-framework PRs

2014-07-30 Thread Michal Mocny
been testing on ios and android respectively. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Just a quick update since its been a few days. - Mobile-spec now builds with new-style tests bundled in (there is a button to launch this on the first screen

Re: How to provide more files from plugin.xml for project and native?

2014-07-30 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: First, the easy one: Certainly you should have a way to drop files into platforms/ios/HelloCordova, and I think source-file is probably

Re: missing documentation and missing major version bump

2014-07-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Current cli is cadver-semver and if even if we had bumped the semver MAJOR it would not have mattered. If you were using semantic version matching in your package.json for cli dependancy, the current scheme does not match the way you expect. Josh your suggestion is that we should have used our

Re: Browserify support for cordova-lib/cordova-cli

2014-07-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Just to confirm: Can I run cordova prepare --browserify is any existing workspace, or would I have needed to add all plugins / platforms with that flag as well? -Michal On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: cordova prepare --browserify works too

Re: Browserify support for cordova-lib/cordova-cli

2014-07-29 Thread Michal Mocny
the project. Suraj. On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:21 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Just to confirm: Can I run cordova prepare --browserify is any existing workspace, or would I have needed to add all plugins / platforms with that flag as well? -Michal On Tue

Re: missing documentation and missing major version bump

2014-07-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Throwing out another option: can we just patch cli now to pass arguments on like it used to, even with the new nopt? Failing that, I don't mind reverting the config changes and releasing tools again, assuming we're going to get 4.0 out soon anyway. Josh: RE CI -- I look forward to your patch for

Re: What's Stopping us From Independent Platform Releases

2014-07-28 Thread Michal Mocny
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.com wrote: This has been discussed long enough and even for those downstream distros and tools who will have to adjust, it is better to finalize it. Overall I like the plan, my major concern was with cadence releaeses gone,

Re: Reminder: Cordova Hangout Today @4pm EST, 1pm PST

2014-07-28 Thread Michal Mocny
The time worked well for us here, and that Tuesday looks open for me. That next meetup will come quick, but we'll just cut it short if theres nothing to discuss. -Michal On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: I just posted the YouTube playback link to the

Re: --usegit / --usenpm

2014-07-25 Thread Michal Mocny
I can't replicate your behaviour here (Platform ripple not recognized as a core cordova platform). I'm assuming thats on a fork of cli that supports ripple? Works for me with android/ios, not sure whats special about ripple / your cli version, but perhaps theres a patch missing to add ripple git

Reminder: Cordova Hangout Today @4pm EST, 1pm PST

2014-07-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Public viewing url (please use this if you are not a cordova contributor): - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vflgPGbQTw Join the conversation: - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf63bjZOHjlopXsNoAKpY7WLTtD60fCGQptMQdtdMiCDxk5Mw Help take meeting notes (and add to the agenda): -

Re: Reminder: Cordova Hangout Today @4pm EST, 1pm PST

2014-07-25 Thread Michal Mocny
10 minutes! On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: Public viewing url (please use this if you are not a cordova contributor): - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vflgPGbQTw Join the conversation: - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent

Re: New project PATH vs. NAME

2014-07-24 Thread Michal Mocny
Chuck, thanks for finding the right JIRA issue already. I agree that one should be addressed, and thats probably enough to address this report. Thanks Jan for bringing more attention to it! (and if you would like to provided PR for fixing i.e. the documentation, please link to them from here so

Re: Bugs handling name field in cordova-platforms -- was: Re: New project PATH vs. NAME

2014-07-24 Thread Michal Mocny
(why the fork?) On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Chuck Lantz wrote: The problem does seem to tie to platform implementations. we have been seeing issues with both Android and iOS failing to compile if the name of the app (name/name in config.xml not

Re: Proposal: remove platform versions from platfroms.js

2014-07-24 Thread Michal Mocny
config files we have). Platforms in package.json should cause no problems though, add/remove platforms, pin/unpin versions if required. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: This sounds like

Re: Proposal: remove platform versions from platfroms.js

2014-07-23 Thread Michal Mocny
This sounds like a great topic for hangout Friday. Glad to have a concrete proposal / some counter arguments to discuss. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Mark Koudritsky kam...@google.com wrote: Currently WebWorks ships specific versions of things. If we had shipped unpinned versions of

Re: Proposal: remove platform versions from platfroms.js

2014-07-23 Thread Michal Mocny
I think Mark summarizes my thoughts as well. We're overdue brainstorming what we want cordova workspaces to look like (package.json, app manifests / config files, grunt/gulp integration, browserify, directory structure..). I don't think even the full hour on this weeks hangout would suffice for

Re: New project PATH vs. NAME

2014-07-23 Thread Michal Mocny
Well, first, I would like to officially agree that people speaking in language with diacritics are people :) I'm not 100% sure of your exact proposal, but I think you are suggesting that: a) cordova create Foo should create a project in directory Foo with name Foo, and not name Hello World and b)

Re: plugin-test-framework PRs

2014-07-22 Thread Michal Mocny
pick one. - PR's for new tests seem to be well isolated from each other (unlike mobilespec). Aka you can run FileTransfer tests without File tests. Good job! -Michal On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Sure, I was actually already planning to take a look

Re: Introduction and JIRA help

2014-07-22 Thread Michal Mocny
Hello Edna! On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, Edna is joining the IBM team as our 2nd iOS person. Edna, I just added you to the Jira ACL so you can own issues. On Jul 22, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Edna Y Morales eymor...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hi all,

Re: Proposal: hooks support for plugins

2014-07-21 Thread Michal Mocny
, PimpMyApp, Hookah @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: What about prompting during plugin install instead of prepare? This plugin has hooks, would you like continue? Y/N I'm concerned about being prompted

Re: sticker?

2014-07-21 Thread Michal Mocny
Marcel / Carlos / Lisa -- if you email Shane Curcuru curc...@apache.org (thanks for posting instruction Shaz!), please report back with results. I'm optimistic that these requests would get approved in a timely manner. More interesting question is: which art assets, and using which methods shall

Re: When is .cordova created?

2014-07-21 Thread Michal Mocny
That directory is optional. It will only exist if you have non standard config options. When using --link-to and --copy-from, we set the config option { lib: { www: { uri: ..., link: true/false } } }. We also set config settings for e.g. Custom platform paths and plugin search paths. Since

Re: sticker?

2014-07-21 Thread Michal Mocny
design approved please let us know. Rpss On 21 Jul 2014 19:27, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Marcel / Carlos / Lisa -- if you email Shane Curcuru curc...@apache.org (thanks for posting instruction Shaz!), please report back with results. I'm optimistic that these requests

Re: sticker?

2014-07-21 Thread Michal Mocny
Awesome, thanks Anis! On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: http://cordova.apache.org/artwork.html On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Thanks Ross. Someone from Adobe once pointed out a good set of cordova image

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-18 Thread Michal Mocny
Joe, QA was just an experiment. I'm doubtful we'll get activity on it, but if it becomes a distraction we will drop it. The purpose of the meeting is for commiters to get face time and to make progress on work which usually happens on these lists -- not to answer cordova user questions. -Michal

Re: Proposal: hooks support for plugins

2014-07-18 Thread Michal Mocny
What about prompting during plugin install instead of prepare? This plugin has hooks, would you like continue? Y/N I'm concerned about being prompted on each prepare, especially in the face of --watch type scripts. I'm also not sure that plugin authors should worry about supporting the no use

Re: 3.6.0 Release Discussion, Schedule + Planning

2014-07-17 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks for volunteering! On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: As has been mentioned in a few other threads, Windows 8.1 and WP 8.1 Universal apps will be supported in 3.6.0. This requires a release/publish of both the tooling, and the platforms as we have

Re: Working versions of Cordova-Android and Cordova-Crosswalk-Engine

2014-07-16 Thread Michal Mocny
DEPS file? On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: Agreed with Joe here -- the engines, Crosswalk included, are third-party code. It's just coincidence that Cordova PMC members happen to be implementing them. What we need is a well-defined stable API.

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-16 Thread Michal Mocny
so everyone can pencil it in to their calendars. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I deleted the event to make it clear it was cancelled. It was late notice for everyone, but there would not have been enough faces to be worth covering topics.

Re: [VOTE] Network information plugin release

2014-07-16 Thread Michal Mocny
I'm happy to just not change subject lines. Does anyone find them useful? Sebb said it was just a convention that they usually find useful, it isn't a requirement: The ASF convention is to change the subject line - as I have done here - to make it easier to find the result in the e-mail

Re: plugin-test-framework PRs

2014-07-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Sure, I was actually already planning to take a look this week. I was working on mobile-spec today and have *also* ported device tests :P I should have looked at the PR's first! Will start these tomorrow. The plan for mobile spec was just to have a transition path, by adding a link to the old

Re: Manual iOS steps for a Cordova plugin... really?

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
You can solve this problem as a plugin author using swizzling. Here's an example where we do it with our chrome.identity plugin: https://github.com/MobileChromeApps/mobile-chrome-apps/blob/master/chrome-cordova/plugins/chrome.identity/src/ios/ChromeIdentity.m#L50 Max here was the author so he'd

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
Yeah, Hangouts doesn't require plugins, gives you a public live video, and then stores it for public record by making a youtube video, automatically. The majority of the issues we've had in the past were user errors due to not planning ahead enough (and there were some suggestions to fix those),

Re: 4.0.x, efcedabe, Patch-Bombing and good faith

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
May we keep these topics within existing email threads? Some of these topics have been addressed elsewhere and the conversation is forking. RE: topic branches -- thats what 4.0.x is, no? I guess as more people start to actually consume it, we should start to care more about compat. We didn't

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
Event link: https://plus.google.com/events/c2cqjqfkkppsealikav2tm37dik Alternative YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpx91MxV-DA I've also enabled QA which I don't think we've used before, which should give a way for anyone streaming to somehow participate in the hangout. We can

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
have a lot of stuff to cover. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Event link: https://plus.google.com/events/c2cqjqfkkppsealikav2tm37dik Alternative YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpx91MxV-DA I've also enabled QA which I don't think we've

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Event link: https://plus.google.com/events/c2cqjqfkkppsealikav2tm37dik Alternative YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpx91MxV-DA I've also enabled QA which I don't think we've used before, which should give a way

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
: I won't be able to make this evening (and suspect many in the same boat) On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Event link: https://plus.google.com/events/c2cqjqfkkppsealikav2tm37dik Alternative YouTube link: http

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
Alrighty. (wish EST knew before we all changed afternoon plans but hey). Friday won't work for me, unless its during office hours EST (maybe thats fine for Tommy). -Michal On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: postpone until? Friday? @purplecabbage

Re: Monthly Cordova hangouts

2014-07-15 Thread Michal Mocny
I deleted the event to make it clear it was cancelled. It was late notice for everyone, but there would not have been enough faces to be worth covering topics. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: I tried joining using the link

Re: Pointing docs to edge

2014-07-14 Thread Michal Mocny
. that changes go into, and then merge into master from the branch that corresponds to the release that is happening On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Ray, but I thought we always wanted more cowbell? Sorry, had to. I agree with Ray here

Re: Verified Plugins Marketplace

2014-07-11 Thread Michal Mocny
Looks pretty snazzy. Thanks for the heads up. Appreciate that you provide Instructions for Install plugin using Cordova CLI very clearly. On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rob Lauer rob.la...@telerik.com wrote: Hi Cordova Team, My name is Rob Lauer and I'm the Product Manager for

Re: Verified Plugins Marketplace

2014-07-11 Thread Michal Mocny
..you can install from specific branch/hash/subdir if you want to freeze without forking. -Michal On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:18 AM, tommy-carlos williams to...@devgeeks.org wrote: Rob, Is there a reason the plugins are all forked to your org instead of being listed from their original

Re: Pointing docs to edge

2014-07-11 Thread Michal Mocny
Ray, but I thought we always wanted more cowbell? Sorry, had to. I agree with Ray here, but I would also want to see latest fixes to docs that apply to released version. Suggestion: rely on discipline to markup documentation changes which only apply to development versions? e.g. div

Re: Tools release blog post review

2014-07-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Anis, Thats a good write up but I'm worried may confuse what this does (see e.g. Ally's mails on this list). I propose a shorter description for the release notes a link to github docs? Perhaps something like: We are experimenting with using `browserify` to package our `cordova.js` build

Re: Tools release blog post review

2014-07-10 Thread Michal Mocny
have some post about browserify to link to from the [see instructions here]? On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Sure. Looks good to me. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Anis, Thats a good write up

Re: Tools release blog post review

2014-07-09 Thread Michal Mocny
I'm happy to highlight that change in the release notes. I think we should prefer to get input on it before graduating out of experimental, and so we should talk about it. And that was the point of putting it behind the experimental flag, so users know what they are getting into. Also, this

Re: Famo.us cordova?

2014-07-08 Thread Michal Mocny
, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: WTF is Adobe Cordova? I know that someone was talking to the Famo.us guys, but they really screwed up this mailout. :S On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: From todays Famo.us email marketting

Re: Directory Structure - CLI directory config proposal

2014-07-08 Thread Michal Mocny
, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: +1 to this proposal. If we are able to agree on a proposal, we can contribute with code too. -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Monday, July

Re: [VOTE] Tools Release

2014-07-07 Thread Michal Mocny
plugman archive seems empty? On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: +1 * Confirmed sigs hashes with `coho verify-archive` On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Mark Koudritsky kam...@google.com wrote: Please review and vote on this Tools Release.

Re: [VOTE] Tools Release

2014-07-07 Thread Michal Mocny
Nevermind, user error. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: plugman archive seems empty? On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: +1 * Confirmed sigs hashes with `coho verify-archive` On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:36

Re: [VOTE] Tools Release

2014-07-07 Thread Michal Mocny
7, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: plugman archive seems empty? On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: +1 * Confirmed sigs hashes with `coho verify-archive` On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Mark Koudritsky

Re: Directory Structure - CLI directory config proposal

2014-07-07 Thread Michal Mocny
I'd like to see this happen. Specifically, I would like to see support for a directory structure like this: MyApp/ cordova_components/ platforms/ plugins/ bower_components/... node_modules/... ...Rest of contents of MyApp are basically www/ And this cannot use a symlink from

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-07-07 Thread Michal Mocny
! Is there a JIRA for this? Was asked in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5671. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Awesome Anis. Will gladly take a look at this later today. Just wanted to send

Re: Ripple as a Cordova platform - experiment

2014-07-07 Thread Michal Mocny
FYI there is no www attachment (this mailing list strips off attachments). Is it strictly necessary or was it just an example? On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi, We have been experimenting with converting Apache Ripple

Famo.us cordova?

2014-07-07 Thread Michal Mocny
From todays Famo.us email marketting: *Adobe collaboration* We are proud to announce that we have officially begun a collaboration project with the Adobe Cordova team to make core improvements to Cordova itself. Included as part of this project will be a section of Famo.us University to teach

Re: usenpm and old versions

2014-06-27 Thread Michal Mocny
Download logic is part of the CLI for convenience, but there have been several proposals to change this in the future. Either way, Mark already added the awesome feature: `cordova platform add /path/to/platform`, so you can already chose to fetch any version any way, and install it that way. I

Re: Contacts API, iOS

2014-06-20 Thread Michal Mocny
Looks like the last release was based on dev branch ( https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-contacts/blob/55ba3f2580d2c3bbd1662f49d89043710446220a/www/contacts.js), which was closed, but maybe wasn't merged in to master? -Michal On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com

Re: Contacts API, iOS

2014-06-20 Thread Michal Mocny
That may not be right at all. Something seems fishy at first glance, but its hard to track the history. Ian and I are looking at it. On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Looks like the last release was based on dev branch ( https://github.com/apache

Re: Contacts API, iOS

2014-06-20 Thread Michal Mocny
, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: That may not be right at all. Something seems fishy at first glance, but its hard to track the history. Ian and I are looking at it. On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Looks like the last release was based on dev

Re: Contacts API, iOS

2014-06-20 Thread Michal Mocny
, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Alright, sorry I got confused reading the history because of some fast-forward merges. Seems all is well in the repo -- but the last plugins release Steven held back contacts due to failing tests, hence whats up on plugins.cordova.io being so stale

Re: plugin test framework

2014-06-19 Thread Michal Mocny
, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Piotr: Actually I'm not sure how running tests in the harness would work, since the path to the resource may be different. However, in general, with development using the harness you aren't making any changes to plugins. The whole

Re: plugin test framework

2014-06-19 Thread Michal Mocny
defined. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Jesee, the branch is NOT a requirement (I don't think I documented it as such, except in the examples for installing plugins for initial look). Actually, we should delete those

Re: plugin test framework

2014-06-19 Thread Michal Mocny
very flexible. I don't think it would be hard to accomplish either. This is the small re-org I was hinting at, you've already done the hard part. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Andrew has raised that concern

Re: [Proposal] Cordova guidelines part of ContributorWorkflow

2014-06-17 Thread Michal Mocny
Don't tell me you would accept patches written using emacs? On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: +1 For historical context, there was a time when finding/retaining committers was more important than concern about the fickle style of JS that came into fashion

Re: plugin test framework

2014-06-17 Thread Michal Mocny
What do you mean? On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Piotr Zalewa pzal...@mozilla.com wrote: Is there any predev document? Dnia Mon Jun 16 18:30:46 2014 Andrew Grieve pisze: Yeah, really exciting. Thanks for taking this on. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Michal Mocny mmo

Re: plugin test framework

2014-06-17 Thread Michal Mocny
2014-06-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Piotr Zalewa pzal...@mozilla.com: a documentation explaining how it's gonna work Dnia Tue Jun 17 10:51:58 2014 Michal Mocny pisze: What do you mean? On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Piotr Zalewa pzal...@mozilla.com wrote: Is there any predev

Re: plugin test framework

2014-06-17 Thread Michal Mocny
-05:00 Piotr Zalewa pzal...@mozilla.com: Thanks Martin, Has it been considered to create a separate command testrun or similar which would remove the need to edit the config.xml? Dnia Tue Jun 17 11:58:33 2014 Michal Mocny pisze: Martin, thanks for posting those links. And I'll look

Re: plugin test framework

2014-06-17 Thread Michal Mocny
:13 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: At the time I went through my design iterations I just didn't want to necessarily depend on cordova tooling changes / documentation. In other words, someone else may have a different strategy for testing.. My personal opinion would be have

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-06-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Awesome Anis. Will gladly take a look at this later today. Just wanted to send a quick thanks for landing this this way, and for the useful report. -Michal On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Yo, Just wanted to let everyone know that I added browserify

Re: [Proposal] Cordova guidelines part of ContributorWorkflow

2014-06-16 Thread Michal Mocny
I don't think we need to vote for anything but releases. Unless we cannot agree and decide a vote is all that can settle (unlikely). FWIW, I also like semicolons, but I wasn't aware when/why this jshint setting was made. -Michal On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com

Re: plugin test framework

2014-06-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Fantastic! I'll try to keep an eye out on the PR's, and please ping me if you would like any help. -Michal On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, after some discussions here with IBM management, we’re going to bring in a couple extra interns for a week

Re: staff change

2014-06-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks for the update. See you around James, and hello Eric! On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Wanted to let the community know about a staff change here at IBM. James Jong, who has been working in the iOS area, is transferring to a different

Cordova hooks always verbose.

2014-06-13 Thread Michal Mocny
Hey all, I'd like to change cordova-cli to not always print multiple messages like Running command: ... when it runs hooks. I'd like this to happen only if you have verbose logging on (with -d or --verbose). I think this was a regression added in February, but since its been in a few releases

Re: Cordova hooks always verbose.

2014-06-13 Thread Michal Mocny
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6942 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: Hey all, I'd like to change cordova-cli to not always print multiple messages like Running command: ... when it runs hooks. I'd like this to happen only if you have verbose

Re: Cordova hooks always verbose.

2014-06-13 Thread Michal Mocny
who uses hooks, I think that's a good idea 1. non verbose mode should simply output something like running X hooks 2. verbose mode can output more details of the scripts being run On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB

Re: Cordova hooks always verbose.

2014-06-13 Thread Michal Mocny
). On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: running X hooks is not trivial to implement given how it works today. You would have to pre-calculate how many scripts will run in response to any action, and some actions are compound. I.e. cordova run you have to count

Re: post to a.o announce list

2014-06-12 Thread Michal Mocny
http://goo.gl/tl6ZWQ On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question, why the hell do we want help from people who hate us? On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: I did some digging and uncovered the following. The goal

Re: [Sugar-devel] developing on cordova-cli

2014-06-11 Thread Michal Mocny
You say you followed the steps, but it sounds like something is not right. (Also, this isn't a cordova issue per-se, its a lesson in node development and managing multiple local package dependencies. You should read about npm dependencies and npm link if you aren't sure what its doing and how to

Re: Hangout

2014-06-10 Thread Michal Mocny
, but I'll be there ;) On 10 June 2014 at 2:03:41, Michal Mocny (mmo...@chromium.org) wrote: Sounds great, thanks for the agenda. Note, there are already some beefy items on the list and we always run short on time -- so before adding more please triple consider if items

Re: Hangout

2014-06-10 Thread Michal Mocny
stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Link? On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:20 AM, tommy-carlos williams to...@devgeeks.org wrote: Sadly, it's actually 6am at this time of year, but I'll be there ;) On 10 June 2014 at 2:03:41, Michal Mocny (mmo

Re: Hangout

2014-06-10 Thread Michal Mocny
] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 4:13 PM To: dev Subject: Re: Hangout Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EBsLaULePH_A-lN4iqnsYAGXf-vHhkykgdcFVMd6UPg/edit lets take notes there. On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: ding

Re: Hangout

2014-06-10 Thread Michal Mocny
...@rectangular.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Link for joining coming in 1 sec. We'll figure this out one day, promise. It's possible to set up a permanent Google hangout so that the link never changes. The essential technique is to create

Re: Quarterly Apache Board Report for June 2014

2014-06-10 Thread Michal Mocny
LGTM. Those numbers are pretty staggering! Under Releases should we add a bullet to point out that the releases at the root are historical and new releases are in subdirectories by type? Its not really important. On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: All

Re: Hangout

2014-06-09 Thread Michal Mocny
Sounds great, thanks for the agenda. Note, there are already some beefy items on the list and we always run short on time -- so before adding more please triple consider if items are important and cannot just be discussed on the lists. -Michal On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Marcel Kinard

Re: minor bump to cordova-lib

2014-06-09 Thread Michal Mocny
In particular, I thought the root of the repo wasn't supposed to be a node package, but a bucket for multiple node packages. (ie, should not be a package.json at the root). We don't vote on commits (though its nice to ask for review for big hairy patches like this one, so thanks for that).

Re: minor bump to cordova-lib

2014-06-09 Thread Michal Mocny
constitute a 'release' of some sort. My understanding was that bug patches of this sort could be pushed out with minimum fuss. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: In particular, I thought the root of the repo wasn't supposed to be a node package

Re: wip on cordova-lib? pls let us know

2014-06-06 Thread Michal Mocny
tired of hearing about it! On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: we're about to do some heavy refactoring on cordova-lib…it would appear many ppl are working on it atm: Who/how

Re: wip on cordova-lib? pls let us know

2014-06-06 Thread Michal Mocny
install (or else the instanceof check won't work). I *think* that npm does the right thing so long as all of the packages use the same version constraints for it, but I haven't tested it. On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Brian

Re: wip on cordova-lib? pls let us know

2014-06-06 Thread Michal Mocny
of functionality from either plugman or cli you need the whole cordova-lib module which is extremely unfortunate and pretty silly. On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Additionally, I think it will only be a problem when each of the modules call

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-05 Thread Michal Mocny
for one platform while I work on another isn't ideal but it isn't completely unmanageable either. It just makes the workflow a little more complex. -Terence On 6/3/2014 7:12 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: We don't do platform-plugin version matching

Re: Ant/Crosswalk woes

2014-06-05 Thread Michal Mocny
Dumb questions from someone who knows nothing about this: (a) Is it possible to share the same directories and still get incremental builds so long as we guard for previous build being done via the same method? aka, could build steps be: if (!exists_file(last_build_was_$TYPE)) clean();

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-05 Thread Michal Mocny
change to workflow but an incremental improvement that we've been discussing for the CLI for a long time. On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Michal Mocny wrote: Most plugins will work across a wide range of platform versions, so often it would work

Re: wip on cordova-lib? pls let us know

2014-06-05 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: we're about to do some heavy refactoring on cordova-lib…it would appear many ppl are working on it atm: Who/how/what/why? https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pulls I'm afraid to find out how many *aren't* open PR's …but

Re: WKWebView for iOS8

2014-06-05 Thread Michal Mocny
(no login required): https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2014/ On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: You can probably bet on it. But this is really fresh news, we're as excited as you are, trying to figure out the details

Re: WKWebView for iOS8

2014-06-04 Thread Michal Mocny
You can probably bet on it. But this is really fresh news, we're as excited as you are, trying to figure out the details. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Matthew David matthewada...@gmail.com wrote: I am sure I am not the first to ask for this, but the new WebView for iOS is now WKWebView

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