more benchmarking in mobile-spec

2012-10-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
eh folks, any thoughts on using https://github.com/robohornet/robohornet for benching?

Re: firing more ontouchmove javascript events on android? Higher resolution / precision for ontouchmove?

2012-10-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
Either way I bet if the events were buffered we could get beter resolution which would be a win I think Joe was looking at something similar last year. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: The Android bridge is about 25X faster in the 2.2.0 release

Re: iOS changes in 2.2.0

2012-10-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
What about bridge performance improvements in 2.2? On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Simon MacDonald simon.macdon...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, cool. I incorporated your feedback and will post later tonight if there are no more comments. Simon Mac Donald http://hi.im/simonmacdonald On Tue,

Re: [DISCUSS] Combine all BlackBerry Platforms into one platform

2012-11-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
3 it can't wait for the future where all cordova.js is just exec fns (and related ceremony) for each platform On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Gord Tanner g...@tinyhippos.com wrote: Problem: - currently BlackBerry has 3 different javascript files: -- cordova.blackberry.js --

Re: iOS 4.3 support, do we need it?

2012-11-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 kill Pls make sure when you notify the google group the downloads for everything 2.2 will still support it before there is public outcry, pitchforks, etc. On Wednesday, November 7, 2012, Filip Maj wrote: +1 ! On 11/6/12 7:21 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: +1. This will

Re: [Android] ./bin/emulate + debug script behavior

2012-11-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
So the consensus is: ./bin/emulate defaults to first 'thing' and take an optional param for an index if there is more than one Seems to beg we have a script to list emulators/devices now. =/ On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: +1 no user interaction required. On

Re: iOS' device API

2012-11-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
This may get some rotton tomatoes thrown at me but I would be in favor of axing these apis altogether. I think they are more dangerous than useful / developers should favor browser feature detection for their UI work. There is no programmatic reason to want these properties otherwise that I can

Re: 2.3.0 major new features

2012-11-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
huge! On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.orgwrote: One major feature I'm looking to add for 2.3.0 is a faster edit-refresh cycle. Yesterday evening I pushed a refresh plugin to https://github.com/MobileChromeApps/refresh that adds a refresh button floating

Re: [Android] ./bin/emulate + debug script behavior

2012-11-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
I really like the API you're proposing Andrew but hesitant to be super bullish on it since I think we are now in CLI API revision 5 or 6. (lulz, software dev) Not attached to the current API but I think this is big enough that requires buy in from Fil, Anis, Jesse, and Mike whom have done the

Re: [docs] OS version supported with a Cordova version

2012-11-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
yep On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Can we swipe that table for Cordova? On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Yup this is a very good idea. We sorta have this on the phonegap dist here http://phonegap.com/about/feature

Re: iOS' device API

2012-11-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
...@gmail.com wrote: Adding jira tasks as per Brian's last comment. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: +1 sounds like a plan On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: +1 On 11/8/12 4:01 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote

Re: [docs] OS version supported with a Cordova version

2012-11-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
general setup advice. Thoughts? On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: yep On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Can we swipe that table for Cordova? On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Yup

Re: Where did we announce deprecation of 2.1 and 3.x?

2012-11-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
We did not though if we do, we I believe we had consensus on doing, it should go here: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/DeprecationPolicy And you should shoot a quick email to the Google Group explaining that this is for 2.3 and greater. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Joe Bowser

Re: Nexus 7 anyone?

2012-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
\o/ h http://96.49.144.164:6969/ttp://ci.cordova.io On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: K its running on port 80 On 11/14/12 4:20 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: eh fil, I love the port choice but can you get it on 80? I'd like to point dns

Re: CLA Confirmations

2012-11-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
Pinging the board to see. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: bump On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: I think I've heard that sometimes when people send in their CLAs that they don't make it to this page:

tag 2.3.0rc1 this week?

2012-11-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
seems like we just cut a release and typically we hop off the release train in december so I don't think there is a rush but thought its a good time to bring up also, wth, can you believe its almost december?!

Re: weinre support for windows phone available

2012-11-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
wow! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:01 AM, Patrick Mueller pmue...@gmail.com wrote: Much thanks to Sergey Grebnov for the latest weinre commits for windows phone; get the latest unofficial binaries for your convenience from npm or the weinre home: http://people.apache.org/~pmuellr/weinre/

Re: InAppBrowser - events

2012-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
agree, all of this work when completed will be documented as to what is non-standard which we can then take back to the w3c On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Great! Let's stick with one API, since we have Chrome members on the Cordova team the choice is obvious

Re: incubator repos no more - remove the prefix in your git urls

2012-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
\o/ On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I don't have edit privlieges on the new repos :/ The cordova group in Apache LDAP was not yet up to speed. Should be fixed now

Re: Type checking in Cordova JS plugins

2012-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
not changing too much before a release cut. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: 1. I like the proposal Andrew. We need type checking for sure and making it optional for debugging even better. The light touch you have shown seems good enough for now. I'd

Re: InAppBrowser api questions

2012-11-23 Thread Brian LeRoux
Eh Simon, was just trying to kick the tires using the wiki test page [1] but always only loads in the webview for me atm. I'm certain I missed something simple---all I did was create a default project---anything immediately occur that I might be missing? [1]

Re: Fast edit-refresh cycles

2012-11-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: just considering this, I suppose we could say that cordova.js is a build artifact, and the manifest is the 'truth' of the install (from the issue tracking perspective) On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Braden Shepherdson bra

Re: Official architecture picture of Apache Cordova?

2012-11-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hi Andy, nothing is really formally documented as that it changes. Any diagram created today might be accurate for some time now though as we have stabilized quite a bit in the past year. Your best bet is to go through http://wiki.cordova.io for the high level story and if you would really like

Re: NO CLA Confirmations issue, but still waiting for committer validation process !

2012-11-27 Thread Brian LeRoux
[mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brian LeRoux Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:34 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: NO CLA Confirmations issue, but still waiting for committer validation process ! Hi Paul, can you share that link for me? I think I have the karma to fix

we can enable nitro

2012-11-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
of course just because we can doesn't mean we should http://www.littlereddoor.co.uk/ios/how-to-enable-the-nitro-javascript-engine-in-ios-applications-directly-through-xcode/

Re: we can enable nitro

2012-11-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
at 2:32 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: of course just because we can doesn't mean we should http://www.littlereddoor.co.uk/ios/how-to-enable-the-nitro-javascript-engine-in-ios-applications-directly-through-xcode/

Re: Transferring Binary data across exec bridge

2012-11-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
state of the art would be marshaling strings aka 'outsider art' On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: I'm experimenting with serializing transferring ArrayBuffer's, but wanted to see what the current state of art for binary data xfers was? I think I heard at

Re: WebNotifications plugin

2012-11-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
(multiple plugins battling over a single function) but not worth a shot? On 11/28/12 11:13 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: would this not be an indication that we need to modify the plugin api? (code munging

Re: Determining if you're in cordova

2012-12-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
Eh Fil, is this so they can detect if they have device apis ultimately? On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bryce Curtis curtis.br...@gmail.com wrote: I think the answer depends upon when the app checks to see if it is running in cordova webview. If it is loading a remote url with remote

Re: NO CLA Confirmations issue, but still waiting for committer validation process !

2012-12-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
these have been submitted fyi On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Plaquette, Paul paul.plaque...@intel.com wrote: Hi Jukka, you just answered to another of my questions about when the vote should occur ! ;-) Thanks! Regards, Paul On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Jukka Zitting

Re: Determining if you're in cordova

2012-12-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
on href On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Eh Fil, is this so they can detect if they have device apis ultimately? On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bryce Curtis curtis.br...@gmail.com wrote: I think the answer depends upon when the app checks to see

Re: Determining if you're in cordova

2012-12-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
guys do (even tough they do it for other reasons). 2) I remember us talking about a capabilities api. Not sure what transpired from that discussion. On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Back to our original thread. I'm seeing a couple of scenarios. 1. wants

Re: Determining if you're in cordova

2012-12-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
login strategy to use (see my previous messages). if phonegap fires deviceready for me I still won't know if i'm in phonegap or not On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: So, would that not be deviceready? (I get that those apps that run in browser probably fake

december report

2012-12-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
There is little to report on since our last. Basically I'm thinking a re-hash of the same. Anything mega you guys can see that should be mentioned?

Re: Determining if you're in cordova

2012-12-04 Thread Brian LeRoux
This situation all still smells of userland issue not something Cordova should be doing. I do think we need device capability detection, but analytics use case not strong enough to justify adding to the fragmented world that is user agents strings (and the even more brittle world of code that

Re: Tagging 2.3.0rc2?

2012-12-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
agree On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Simon MacDonald simon.macdon...@gmail.com wrote: We doing that or going straight to 2.3.0 release? Personally I'd like to see a 2.3.0rc2 on Monday then if no fixes are checked in cut 2.3.0 the following week. Simon Mac Donald http://hi.im/simonmacdonald

happy birthday ross!

2012-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
=)

board report for december

2012-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
what should be noted?

Re: nuking githubs

2012-12-17 Thread Brian LeRoux
thread since I was asked about this.] On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: github.com/cordova This still exists with the apache-board-reports and community-dashboard repositories in it. The latter hasn't been updated in a year and the former is mostly used just

Re: 2.3.0 final?

2012-12-17 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hey guys, don't kill yourselves eh! If we can ship in the next couple of days awesome. If not, we can do a rapid two release punch in Jan. No big deal. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: That's cool. I'm suffering from a sinus infection that I caught last week.

Re: Android changes for 2.3.0?

2012-12-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
yup On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: LGTM On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Simon MacDonald simon.macdon...@gmail.com wrote: Anything I'm missing here before I post it? *1. InAppBrowser – includes events* More details here

Re: Hi everyone!

2012-12-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
Welcome Max! Where are you based? (Let us know if you need anything to help.) On Tuesday, December 18, 2012, Max Woghiren wrote: Hi everyone, My name's Max Woghiren, and I'm a Googler joining Andrew Grieve, Michal Mocny, and Braden Shepherdson as contributors to Cordova. I'm looking

Re: Hi everyone!

2012-12-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
in that profile picture, Max? Are you in a band? Karaoke? Staging a revolt? -Michal On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: Welcome Max! Where are you based? (Let us know if you need anything to help.) On Tuesday, December 18, 2012, Max

Re: 2.3.0 final?

2012-12-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
Michael brought this up yesterday w/ the suggestion that we make cutting a release even easier still by including a standard ./release script (actually he suggested ./configure but I think that convention might come w/ unintended baggage). I'm not convinced the speed issue w/ cutting a release is

too long to package a release?

2012-12-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
So, it takes us roughly a week to socialize a release. We tag the JS. We go back and forth on the list a little. We retag the JS. =) Personally, I think the addition of RC to the process made this easier. But perhaps its time to add a new channel wherein we are more strict about the tagging of

Re: Food for thought over the holidays

2012-12-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
(Happy holidays everyone!) What cordova-client should do to better support plugins: -Instead of considering JS the same as other assets, treat it as a first-class thing. -Build cordova.js from source (check it out as a sibling to cordova-ios.git) Yes. -Change from listing

Re: 3rd party Plugin code structure

2013-01-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
at 2:52 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: This is pretty close to Lunny's pluginstall spec: https://github.com/alunny/cordova-plugin-spec For which the tools are being built. View the current phonegap/phonegap-plugins repo as a stepping stone. It bought us time

Re: Food for thought over the holidays

2013-01-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
I thought this meant we move the JS out of CordovaJS and start moving it into plugin packages. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: time? If so, I disagree. The reason we tag the JS and need consensus on it

the great seperatino of concerns

2013-01-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
Our general goal for Cordova 3.x is composability. Extending the core should be trivially simple, with tools for discovering, adding, removing, creating, validating, and publishing Plugin Packages. This will make creating downstream distributions easier, developers using Cordova won't be building

Re: Review of Core Platforms

2013-01-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
Would love more #'s on Bada and BB before we get too aggressive. I updated the Horizon section to Firefox OS. (Ubuntu is supported by way of our Qt codebase.) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ken Wallis kwal...@rim.com wrote: Sounds like a plan. I'll do some digging on what plans we will have on

Re: the great seperatino of concerns

2013-01-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
The idea has been proposed that we even add an ./emulate folder for Ripple to consume ---tests, docs, src, and emulation all into the Package format. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Michael Brooks mich...@michaelbrooks.ca wrote: @fil @dave, yes to both test suite and docs. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013

Re: 2.3.0 final?

2013-01-04 Thread Brian LeRoux
be nice if it was available as part of the download from phonegap.com, which means a release. As it is, Microsoft and I will have several blog posts and videos alluding to 2.3.0 + WP8 but no link to go get it. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Brian

Re: Review of Core Platforms

2013-01-04 Thread Brian LeRoux
Its certainly up for debate, while webOS still is out there it is not shipping on any devices, nor has it for a couple of years. However, we are seeing an interesting trend towards web operating systems: chrome, windows, firefox, and tizen. This puts webOS in some good company and given the trend

[PSA] http://people.phonegap.com

2013-01-04 Thread Brian LeRoux
That downstream dist called PhoneGap created a directory. Sending this b/c Cordova devs might be interested. http://people.phonegap.com If you are a committer let me know off list and we'll add a shiny star badge to your profile. =) /spam

Re: Review of Core Platforms

2013-01-04 Thread Brian LeRoux
PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Its certainly up for debate, while webOS still is out there it is not shipping on any devices, nor has it for a couple of years. However, we are seeing an interesting trend towards web operating systems: chrome, windows, firefox, and tizen. This puts

Re: Review of Core Platforms

2013-01-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
wants to create a platform for that in Cordova they should be able to without having to convince you to add it to the core platforms on the wiki. On Friday, January 4, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Think its still good to make this distinction even though our scope is going to drastically reduce

Re: (CB-2164) Revert CLI tools to using git

2013-01-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
like git is a good use case for. Thoughts? In the mean time I will stop working on this issue. However, please note that the CLI tools have not been working for about a month due to the mirror issues I describe above. On 1/7/13 12:44 PM, Brian LeRoux (JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote

Re: (CB-2164) Revert CLI tools to using git

2013-01-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
One other thought---when we do move between versions we should be going from /dist not from the scm. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: As so long as this is abstracted into a discreet module so we can remove later I'm cool w/ it for dev purposes. Git is great

Re: (CB-2164) Revert CLI tools to using git

2013-01-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
My ideal would be to have the current version of Cordova vendored directly into the repo of CLI tool. Upgrade/Downgrade would be to the CLI tool global and not versioned independently. Willing to be wrong on this but I think it would have less side effects. (Eg, cordova-cli-2.5 running against

Re: Iframe security

2013-01-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
Docs would be the only way we can completely mitigate this. It should be understood that 3rd party scripts are a bad idea by web developers. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Hi Denis, I think you bring up a good point. It's probably not a good idea to

jan report

2013-01-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
pls review / let me know what I am missing https://github.com/cordova/apache-board-reports/blob/master/2013-01.md

Re: Revert CLI tools to using git

2013-01-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
/13 12:44 PM, Brian LeRoux (JIRA) j...@apache.orgjavascript:; wrote: [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-2164?page=com.atlassian.jira.plu g in.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13546245#comm en t-13546245 ] Brian LeRoux commented on CB-2164

Re: Moving plugin JS files around

2013-01-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
The building tool already is a requirement of every platform, no? Could you describe your solution Jesse? Saying you don't agree w/ something but failing to back it up is kinda passive aggressive. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, The approach you

Re: Iframe security

2013-01-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
Some of this could be re-purposed there: https://github.com/phonegap/phonegap/wiki/Platform-Security On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Michael Brooks mich...@michaelbrooks.ca wrote: Let's just create a parent section called Security, with sub-articles of Domain Whitelist and iFrame Security (or

Re: too long to package a release?

2013-01-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
Thank you. I lean to agreement w/ Andrew that more meaningful pull reqs are better and having named branches for what they do makes sense. Also agree that tags are for points in time---but I take no exception to a branch for those as well for dev purposes. Let me try to capture the conversation

[FYI] call for cordova devs to participate in phonegap day event in july

2013-01-11 Thread Brian LeRoux
http://goo.gl/fYW3J

Re: too long to package a release?

2013-01-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
Ok. Lets go at this from a workflow perspective. One thing I'd like to note is the two classifications of branch. There are canonical branches: - Dev (or Master) - Unstable (or Next) - Stable And then there are feature branches. Feature branches merge into Canonical branches as appropriate.

Re: too long to package a release?

2013-01-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
So, what if Canonical branches only received merges from Feature branches...? On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: But do Canonical branches merge into each other? I'm thinking no. My

Re: too long to package a release?

2013-01-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hey shawn, feel free to kick up a new thread about Windows Phone dev. We'd love your help. You can read how we'd like you to work w/ us here: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributorWorkflow On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Shawn Wildermuth shawn.li...@agilitrain.com wrote: Anyone actively

Re: too long to package a release?

2013-01-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
a release. Does that make sense? On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Could you elaborate on what the workflow would be if we merged only from Feature branches? On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: So, what

Re: too long to package a release?

2013-01-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
: Am I correct in assuming US pacific time zone? Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:36 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Works for me, however, to accommodate EU community we must to consider times unholy. This is Apache Way from what I understand. I created a form to help us

Re: Cordova-CLI: Version handling

2013-01-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
Seems really slippery to me. Lets keep this one in the backlog while we shore up the supporting tools for plugins, etc. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Cool, thanks for the feedback everyone! Sounds like downgrading won't be supported for now. On 1/18/13 9:07

Re: Cordova-CLI: Version handling

2013-01-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
Full circle! (Sorry I couldn't resist. This was the approach of a much older iteration of the tools.) Indicates to me this function should rest quietly in the backlog for a while. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: From the perspective of upgrading the

Re: Media APIs - some research and discussion

2013-01-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think that spec is defunct and the functionality was removed from Chrome recently. =.( On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Simon MacDonald simon.macdon...@gmail.com wrote: Just reading everything over and looking at the way things are going it seems like we should get the Web Intents API

Re: Should Automatic Reference Counting be on?

2013-01-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
I say we roll w/ the assumption of #3 (but share your pragmatism that #2 will likely result). On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Not sure how to move forward with this. I don't think that asking plugin devs to use macros to make their code work in both

Re: Can we talk about large features before they arrive in master?

2013-01-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
Agree, but this should be just the regular flow rather than a formal check in. Anything big should be in a branch and ideally ppl should socialize branches on the list before the merge. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Recently we've been noticing that

Re: Cygwin for Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
++ On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: +1 On 1/21/13 11:16 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: I would vote for standardizing on node for all our scripts On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Yes, node is already a dependency for

Re: CordovaJS is broken on Android 2.x, rollback and re-tag?

2013-01-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
man, sure is nice having continuous integration. which is to say: thank you fil On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: BTW: the last commit on Android bumped the latest results on the ci dashboard from ~84% to 97%. Thank you everyone for resolving this promptly! On

Re: too long to package a release?

2013-01-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Talking w/ Dr. David Charles Johnson about this. We think a F2F would help but before we go that far I think your proposal is close Andrew. How about firing it into a Google Doc for commenting/and revisioning? On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.org wrote: I

Re: Review of Contacts API against W3C

2013-01-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Thx for this Becky. Agree we should maybe add this analysis to the wiki [1] (tho it too is in danger of getting dated) and hold out. [1] http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/Core%20API%20Audit On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Becky Gibson gibson.be...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I would check the

Re: Getting Started (Android) feedback

2013-01-23 Thread Brian LeRoux
Agree w/ this sentiment Becky. Of late, I've been of the opinion the target audience for Cordova is and more advanced users and accommodating the less technical user base is a job for the downstream distributions. We're not doing a very good job of it here or in the downstream at any rate. I know

Re: too long to package a release?

2013-01-23 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm liking it. Start in 2.5? On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Looks great Andrew! If everyone's on board, how are we going to test run this? Flip a switch at a certain point, give it a shot with one repo for one RC? On 1/22/13 12:29 PM, Andrew Grieve

Re: Are we in bugfix mode?

2013-01-23 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think its fine to drop features within the first RC but the second one probably no. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still unclear on what was decided :/ On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: Max has had his changes

Re: Time to do something about the PhoneGap Plugins repo

2013-01-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
Gettin ppl on board w/ publishing to their own github is a great start. Make sure to inform them of plugman [1]. It is very likely we will nuke the phonegap/phonegap-plugins repo once plugman is stable. (A month or so.) [1] https://github.com/imhotep/plugman On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:08 PM,

best practice plugin authoring guidelines / window.plugins hate

2013-01-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
The community is starting to put plugins in their own repos (good). I noticed this one today: https://github.com/vstirbu/InstagramPlugin (Awesome.) But I can't stand window.plugins any longer. I think this might be a hangover from the existing plugin space but not totally sure---is there a good

Re: best practice plugin authoring guidelines / window.plugins hate

2013-01-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
wrote: Don't think so. Should be up to the user. That said Cordova should provide a registration mechanism to enable collision detection (I think Andrew Grieve has something like this in his symbol mapping branch in cordova-js). On 1/28/13 10:34 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote

ship 2.4 monday

2013-01-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
remember: silence is assent!

Re: best practice plugin authoring guidelines / window.plugins hate

2013-01-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'm thinking we encourage: var insta = require('instagram') insta.share( ... ) On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: No reason to exist there, other than that is the way it used to be. I would rather just see : var myRef

Re: Cordova CLI (and by proxy, platform) requirements

2013-01-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
uh oh. so, does this mean we do both and put prompting behind a configuration option? RECURSIVE ERROR On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: I think the reason blackberry doesn't put the sdk on the path is because they need to have multiple sdk versions (all

Re: ship 2.4 monday

2013-01-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
ones introduced in, 2.4.0rc1 . On 1/29/13 9:39 AM, fabian boulegue fboule...@me.com wrote: So any update on release for r2? Am Jan 29, 2013 um 6:24 PM schrieb Giorgio Natili g.nat...@gnstudio.com : +1 On 1/28/13 8:11 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote

Re: Global Javascript in InAppBrowser

2013-01-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
Would it be possible to implement window.opener ?? I'm thinking no, due to the async nature of stuff, but allergic to introducing more non-standard API surface. It might be time to start documenting where Cordova MUST diverge so we can socialize this w/ the various standards groups we interact

Re: [FYI] call for cordova devs to participate in phonegap day event in july

2013-01-31 Thread Brian LeRoux
Australia is best done with plenty of advanced warning ;) Is there any anticipated deadline to the submission process? - tommy On 01/02/2013, at 5:47 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: No problem, how about I pencil you in for the USA event and let the talk TBD? On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10

Re: Moving plugin JS files around

2013-02-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
Yup, you only need to update the NOTICE and only if we are distributing. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: isn't mit compatible with apache license? On 2/1/13 11:41 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Did anyone act on putting this on the wiki? We'd

Re: Moving plugin JS files around

2013-02-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
Seems like a wiki thing. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Its just a document.. Ill move it / create a spot for it in the wiki ? On 2/1/13 11:56 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Yup, you only need to update the NOTICE and only if we are distributing

Re: Creating repos for core plugins

2013-02-04 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm in favor of discreet plugin repos. It shouldn't effect a release if we automate install/remove and add to the Coho tool... though perhaps this is a naive assumption. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Thought it'd be worth having a discussion around

Re: Creating repos for core plugins

2013-02-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
). I'd be ok to ship a set of default plugins and give the ability for people to build their 'own' Cordova. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'm in favor of discreet plugin repos. It shouldn't effect a release if we automate install

Re: Creating repos for core plugins

2013-02-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
, and then if we ever implement WebAudio, then we'll have the name available for that. Maybe we should even put it the spec-less category (unless there's some older spec that it was based off of?) On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Just kicked up a quick wiki page

Re: Creating repos for core plugins

2013-02-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
it :) On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I was thinkin we'd just deprecate the media spec altogether for a starter/subset of the web audio api (perhaps polyfil the audio element while we're at it). should we kick up a thread about that? (Added file

Re: Creating repos for core plugins

2013-02-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
So instead of revisiting it just let it die and kick up a new one for web audio? On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: So... back to cordova-plugin-media then? On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: exactly! And plugins, I

Re: Proposal for JS in Plugins

2013-02-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
I am not in favor of prescribing any part of the development stack. Some ppl like requirejs. Etc. This is really not a problem we need to add to the list of things we need to solve! (More detailed feedback on the way.) On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I am

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