Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Jean, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: No, I was not saying or suggesting that. I've got a bit lost in this thread... were you or someone asking earlier if the specific situation of the OOoAuthors choice of license had been discussed at CC? It was a mail by Jonathon Blake who said, that Daniel

Re: [documentation-dev] Improving the process at Docs (was: dropdown and HOW TO)

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
Excuse me for top posting but I am about to try to get some sleep. I think you are absolutely right. Scott told me a week or so ago that he would be working on this. Since he appears unavailable or incognito or whatever. Can we put this on the back burner for a week, please? http://www.openoffic

[documentation-dev] Improving the process at Docs (was: dropdown and HOW TO)

2005-07-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
OK, some suggestions from me about improving the process at Docs. First, we need a clear indication on the first page of the Docs site about how people can get involved if they want to. We don't want that notice to interfere with people finding the info they want if they have come there to get

[documentation-dev] Past problems at Docs (was: dropdown and HOW TO)

2005-07-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: I won't go into a lot of boring detail on this, but the short version is that my contributions went into the IssueZilla system and never emerged, despite several reviews and repeated requests for them to be published. You have said this before but I cannot find th

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 20:14 -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:14 -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote: > > > >>G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > >>>SO if you want to complain about progress or lack thereof at the doc > >>>project or any of the NL proj

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 20:15 -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > As an outside group, OOoAuthors is free to use whatever license it > > likes. I have no problem with that. Just that items from OOoAuthors must > > be non-editable to be included on http://documentation.op

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: As an outside group, OOoAuthors is free to use whatever license it likes. I have no problem with that. Just that items from OOoAuthors must be non-editable to be included on http://documentation.openoffice.org/ This is certainly in keeping with the links you provided

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:14 -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote: G. Roderick Singleton wrote: SO if you want to complain about progress or lack thereof at the doc project or any of the NL projects, get involved with OpenOffice.org and not a third party project that seems

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 09:45 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > Daniel did find it hard. I do not know or understand why. I do know he > > did not like working within the existing system > > I'd like to comment on my own experience. > > I started at Docs in Decembe

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: Daniel did find it hard. I do not know or understand why. I do know he did not like working within the existing system I'd like to comment on my own experience. I started at Docs in December 2002, about six months before Daniel did. I found working there one of th

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 16:02 +, Jonathon Blake wrote: Charles wrote: documentation project will soon release an HOW TO that will explain everything there is to know about the OOo documentation work. Only about five years to late. xan jonathon Perhaps.

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: I am not stopping you. I would like it though if the OOoAuthors group would stop claiming to be an official OOo projects when in fact it is not. Trying to avoid getting too caught up in this, but OOC, where does OOOAuthors make this claim? -- Peter Kupfer -- U

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
GRS wrote: > The other thing about the license is that this change has not been passed > through the CC. Please explain what "this change has not been passed through" means,? Bearing in mind that: i) It was discussed in the Community Council Meetings; ii) It was approved by the Community Counc

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 07:43 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > Andre Schnabel wrote: > > Hi Jean, > > As you may read, the discussion is about CC license for documents with > > fixed content. I hope, you don't want to say, Daniel brought this idea > > to the Community Council (to use document, dev

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: I tried it and the document was promised a proof and review. Nada. I waited considerable time then had it posted directly to documentation. Mind this was back in January but that should not have stopped a review but it did. I came away feeling NIH so ignore and it wil

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 06:15 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > I tried it and the document was promised a proof and review. Nada. I > > waited considerable time then had it posted directly to documentation. > > Mind this was back in January but that should not have s

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, Please explain what "this change has not been passed through" means,? Bearing in mind that: i) It was discussed in the Community Council Meetings; ii) It was approved by the Community Council meetings; iii) Daniel said in a Community Council meeting that OOoAuthors was going to use a dual

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Andre Schnabel wrote: Hi Jean, As you may read, the discussion is about CC license for documents with fixed content. I hope, you don't want to say, Daniel brought this idea to the Community Council (to use document, developed at OOoAuthors as fixed content within the OOo-project)? No, I was

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Andre Schnabel wrote: Please explain what "this change has not been passed through" means,? Bearing in mind that: i) It was discussed in the Community Council Meetings; ii) It was approved by the Community Council meetings; iii) Daniel said in a Community Council meeting that OOoAuthors was goin

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Jean, Could we please stay with the facts? .. that means: please point to the archives, where this can be verified, od stop the discussion as it is pointless. Here is a note from Louis, related to the minutes of a CC meeting held 2005-01-20 which included agreement to update the Guidelin

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:14 -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 16:02 +, Jonathon Blake wrote: > > > >>Charles wrote: > >> > >> > >>>documentation project will soon release an HOW TO that will explain > >>>everything there is to know about t

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
GRS wrote: > Really the archives do not support your statement. I've got messages from that list that do support my claims. xan jonathon -- Does your Office Suite conform to ISO Standards? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 06:25 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > Andre Schnabel wrote: > >> Please explain what "this change has not been passed through" means,? > >> > >> Bearing in mind that: > >> i) It was discussed in the Community Council Meetings; > >> ii) It was approved by the Community Counci

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 06:54 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > >> > >>When you say "I tried it and the document was promised a proof > >>and review", which document are you referring to and where did > >>you submit it for review? Docs or

Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [native-lang] dropdown and HOW TO

2005-07-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: When you say "I tried it and the document was promised a proof and review", which document are you referring to and where did you submit it for review? Docs or OOoAuthors? Way before you got involve. All was done on OOoAuthors though. ..