RE: why not post mod_gzip 2.0? (was: Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz tohttpd-2.0)

2001-09-06 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> >> Why won't you post mod_gzip 2.0 *today*? > > Because Apache 2.x is not STABLE, not In BETA and the API set is not yet > FROZEN... When it is, we will release mod_gzip as a third party module, > which we will support and maintain. I have stayed far away from this thread, but this just doesn't

Re: Random Filter Syntax observations...

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Holsman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 05:43:53PM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > >>Because from context to context you mean to change the server config. What >>works in one Location doesn't work for another, what is good for one directory >>isn't good for another. >> >>You nee

[PATCH] RE: [STATUS] (httpd-2.0) Wed Sep 5 23:45:09 EDT 2001

2001-09-06 Thread MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Hi, I was wondering if somebody could update the status of mod_ssl in the STATUS file. I'm providing my inputs - but if you have a more appropriate comment, please go ahead and update it. Thanks -Madhu Index: STATUS === R

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"Ryan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:47, Bill Stoddard wrote: >>> Ryan Bloom wrote: We have no control over APR. APR will not make a release just because the web server wants it to. Apache needs to either use an already released APR, or it ne

FW: [PATCH] RE: [STATUS] (httpd-2.0)

2001-09-06 Thread MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
I thought I'd sent this mail earlier.. I never got the mail back - 'just forwarding it again.. (sorry if it's a duplicate) -Madhu -- Hi, I was wondering if somebody could update the status of mod_ssl in the STATUS file. I'm providing my inputs - but if you have a more appro

Re: [PATCH] fix apachectl to know about sbin change

2001-09-06 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"Aaron Bannert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This patch is pretty self explanatory... > > -aaron > > > Index: support/apachectl.in > === > RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-2.0/support/apachectl.in,v > retrieving revision 1.3 > diff

Re: Random Filter Syntax observations...

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 05:43:53PM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Because from context to context you mean to change the server config. What > works in one Location doesn't work for another, what is good for one directory > isn't good for another. > > You need to be able to replace those c

Re: Random Filter Syntax observations...

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Justin Erenkrantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 5:28 PM > On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 12:06:18AM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > Push...Filters is a very interesting idea that warrents more consideration, > > especially in terms of subrequests (Push/Pop could

Re: Random Filter Syntax observations...

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
[ Is it just me or is this message really like 5 or 6? I reread it and saw all of the stuff at the bottom. ] On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 12:06:18AM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Push...Filters is a very interesting idea that warrents more consideration, > especially in terms of subrequests (P

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 07:39:39PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I still don't think you answered the REAL question, though, > and that is why, in light of everything else going on at the > moment trying to get this 2.0 puppy at least to a BETA > tarball so many more people can TEST it ( don't

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread TOKILEY
In a message dated 01-09-06 19:30:47 EDT, Justin wrote... > I think this functionality belongs in the core (not as a > sub-project or as a separate standalone module). That's it. Fair enough. Thanks for the quick reply. You won't get any argument from me on that point. I was saying that (ove

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > Anytime you put something into the core, > > you take the very real chance of delaying the core server. > > Or, as some have suggested - stick it in modules/experimental? As Ken pointed out, modules in the experimental directory have historically

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > You will find if you read the archives, that we have cancelled > releases in the past, because a single module did not work correctly. > Anytime you put something into the core, you take the very real chance > of delaying the core server. This is true enou

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 07:04:43PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Justin... you are the one who kicked this football down > the field in the first place at this point in time so it's your > turn for the hotseat for a moment. > > Can you explain why, in so many words, this is such > a house on

Missing Data

2001-09-06 Thread Ulrich Schneider
After the update from suse linux 7.0 to 7.2 there`s a discrepancy with my apache which is running a program with php and mysql. When I hit the back-button of the browser, the browser tells me, that there is data missing. But the program is designed to use the back button of the browser. Is there

Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c

2001-09-06 Thread Brad Nicholes
For Apache 1.3, mod_tls is in src/os/netware and I don't really see any reason to change anything there since it has been shipping for quite some time in this manner. We have not yet checked this module in for Apache 2.0, but when we do I will certainly rename it to something else as you s

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread TOKILEY
Hi Justin... Kevin Kiley here... Justin wrote... > FWIW, we're discussing Ian's mod_gz not Remote Communication's > mod_gzip since an Apache 2.0 version of mod_gzip has not been > submitted to the Apache Group for inclusion. -- justin Jim Jagielski asked... > Can I ask why the rush? Let'

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > FWIW, I don't thinking creating a sub-project for one file makes > a lot of sense. -- justin I agree with Justin on this, and disagree with FirstBill and Ryan. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Ryan Bloom wrote: > > If the module is a part of the server, then it must work > before the server is production ready. You can't have a > module that doesn't work in a server that is going GA, > it doesn't make sense. You will find if you read the > archives, that we have cancelled releases in

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 03:25:47PM -0700, MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1) wrote: > you're definitely right. they are not CPU-bound, but more bandwidth bound.. > But my point here is that does it make sense to compare mod_ssl with > mod_gzip.. They are 2 totally differnet entities - one o

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/docs/conf httpd-std.conf httpd-win.conf

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:27 AM > slive 01/09/06 11:27:57 > > Modified:docs/conf httpd-std.conf httpd-win.conf > Added: docs/docroot index.html.nn > Log: > Add Norwegian Nynorsk translation of welcome page. Don't forget index.html.v

RE: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
you're definitely right. they are not CPU-bound, but more bandwidth bound.. But my point here is that does it make sense to compare mod_ssl with mod_gzip.. They are 2 totally differnet entities - one of them is a requirement, and the other is welcome (if available) -Madhu -Original Message--

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 03:03:16PM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > If it's stable and works, but clearly isn't a 'known quantity' in production > servers, it must land in modules/experimental until it's interaction with the > many clients is well understood. Compiling isn't the issue, usabil

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 06:06:58PM -0400, MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1) wrote: > Hi, > 'not sure if my views hold any ground here - but I believe we should not be > linking mod_gzip and mod_ssl here.. > > mod_ssl - it's one of the modules without which lots of users (especially > the

Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Ryan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:45 PM > To clarify, I am removing mod_tls from 2.0. I saw mod_tls, and didn't connect it > with Apache 1.3. I will not remove mod_tls from 1.3 this week. +1 for removing /modules/tls (I was confused as well, sorry.)

RE: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Hi, 'not sure if my views hold any ground here - but I believe we should not be linking mod_gzip and mod_ssl here.. mod_ssl - it's one of the modules without which lots of users (especially the e-commerce uses) would not even consider using Apache (forget the performance). It's pretty much a REQU

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Justin Erenkrantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:56 PM > On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 02:49:56PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > If the module is a part of the server, then it must work before the server > > is production ready. You can't have a module that doesn't wor

Re: the filesmatch directive / map_to_storage

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Ian Holsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:36 PM > I've found a small problem (probably more a documentation problem) > > only works for 'file-based' storage. > > so, using it to set the INCLUDES filter on a page delivered by mod-proxy > doesn't work. P

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 02:49:56PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > If the module is a part of the server, then it must work before the server > is production ready. You can't have a module that doesn't work in a server > that is going GA, it doesn't make sense. You will find if you read the > archive

Re: [PATCH] Take 3 of mod_include patch...

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Ian Holsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:36 AM > On Thu, 2001-09-06 at 08:12, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > The map_to_storage hook should be an optimization that I want to use, not > > a requirement that I HAVE to use. > > > > you don't need to use it. look at

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 14:45, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 02:39:18PM -0400, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > +1 on the veto :-) > > > > I am a strong +1 in favor of making this a subproject and probably > > rolling it into a post 2.0 release. The presence of mod_gz in the cor

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 02:39:18PM -0400, Bill Stoddard wrote: > +1 on the veto :-) > > I am a strong +1 in favor of making this a subproject and probably rolling it into a >post > 2.0 release. The presence of mod_gz in the core now -will- impact folks who are >working on > stabilizing the serv

Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 14:17, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > From: "Ryan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:09 AM > > > On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > bnicholes01/09/06 07:48:46 > > > > > > Modified:src/os/netware

Re: [PATCH] optimization for setting of allowed methods

2001-09-06 Thread Brian Pane
Ryan Bloom wrote: >On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:29, Greg Marr wrote: > >>At 11:50 AM 09/06/2001, Brian Pane wrote: >> >>>This patch eliminates some run-time conversion of method names to >>>numbers (something that I noticed while looking through function >>>call profiles). >>> >>>RCS file: /h

Re: [VOTE] Remove mod_ldap

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Cliff Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:42 AM > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > It seems that most people on this list were surprised to see mod_ldap in > > the core. We all expected a small LDAP library in apr-util, and nothing > > in the cor

Re: [PATCH] fix apachectl to know about sbin change

2001-09-06 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 02:15:22PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2001 14:10, Aaron Bannert wrote: > > No, this should not be done. According to the default Apache layout, the Apache > binary goes into @prefix@/bin/httpd. We use the variable sbindir, but it is still > the b

Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Ryan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:09 AM > On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > bnicholes01/09/06 07:48:46 > > > > Modified:src/os/netware mod_tls.c > > Log: > > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of

Re: [PATCH] fix apachectl to know about sbin change

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Holsman
On Thu, 2001-09-06 at 14:10, Aaron Bannert wrote: > This patch is pretty self explanatory... > hmm. I think the current CVS head is working (if you don't specify the layout as a argument) > -aaron > > > Index: support/apachectl.in > =

Re: [PATCH] fix apachectl to know about sbin change

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 14:10, Aaron Bannert wrote: No, this should not be done. According to the default Apache layout, the Apache binary goes into @prefix@/bin/httpd. We use the variable sbindir, but it is still the bin directory. If it is actually being installed into the sbin directo

[PATCH] fix apachectl to know about sbin change

2001-09-06 Thread Aaron Bannert
This patch is pretty self explanatory... -aaron Index: support/apachectl.in === RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-2.0/support/apachectl.in,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 apachectl.in --- support/apachectl.in2001/05/0

Re: remaining CPU bottlenecks in 2.0

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "dean gaudet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:17 PM > On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Brian Pane wrote: > > > * memset() is called mostly from apr_pcalloc(), which in turn is > > used in too many places to yield any easy optimization opportunities. > > sometimes folks are

Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c

2001-09-06 Thread Brad Nicholes
FYI, The reason that MOD_TLS exists on NetWare is because all of the SSL support is embedded in our Winsock layer. MOD_TLS doesn't actually do any encryption or contain any encryption code. It simply an enabling module that makes a WSAIoctl() call to tell Winsock to enable SSL on a given

the filesmatch directive / map_to_storage

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Holsman
I've found a small problem (probably more a documentation problem) only works for 'file-based' storage. so, using it to set the INCLUDES filter on a page delivered by mod-proxy doesn't work. Also .. on another documentation point. it is possible for mod-include to NOT check for 'options' incl

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:47, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > We have no control over APR. APR will not make a release just because > > > the web server wants it to. Apache needs to either use an already > > > released APR, or it needs to specify a date/time to check out

RE: apxs Error - please ignore

2001-09-06 Thread Farag, Hany M (Hany)
Got it, thanks anyway. Hany -Original Message- From: Farag, Hany M (Hany) Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: apxs Error Hi, I'm getting this error when using apxs (apache 2.0.24): ./apxs -i -a -c iCAP.h iCAP_protocol.h mod_iCAP.h co.h co_

removal

2001-09-06 Thread Shaun Smoot
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Re: [VOTE] Remove mod_ldap

2001-09-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > It seems that most people on this list were surprised to see mod_ldap in > the core. We all expected a small LDAP library in apr-util, and nothing > in the core. Since there are at least two people who have mentioned that > they would have voted -1 for mod_ldap, can I g

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
Can I ask why the rush? Let's get 2.0 out the door. -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order wil

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 12:01, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > Bill Stoddard wrote: > > > I am a strong +1 in favor of making this a subproject and probably > > > rolling it into a > > post > > > > 2.0 release. The presence of mod_gz in the core now -will- impact folks > > > who are > > working on

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Greg Marr
At 02:47 PM 09/06/2001, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > Well - the vote on the table is to take the LDAP code out of > Apache v2.0 > > - but the next question is when it's removed, what do we do with > it? > >I will probably be a user of mod_ldap, but right now, I am inclined >to remove it from the >c

Re: [PATCH] Take 3 of mod_include patch...

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:54, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:36, Ian Holsman wrote: > > > On Thu, 2001-09-06 at 08:12, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > > > I have some big problems with the way that location walk and > > > > > > directory walk work now, BTW, because if I

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Graham Leggett
Bill Stoddard wrote: > +1 on mod_ssl and mod_proxy being included in the core. The last vote we had also > supported mod_proxy in the core. As far as I am concerned, mod_proxy can go in >today... We did get the +1's we needed... How about this: I will commit the v2.0 mod_proxy back to the core

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Bill Stoddard
> Bill Stoddard wrote: > > > I am a strong +1 in favor of making this a subproject and probably rolling it into >a post > > 2.0 release. The presence of mod_gz in the core now -will- impact folks who are working on > > stabilizing the server. > > What about putting it in the experimental directo

RE: apxs Error

2001-09-06 Thread Farag, Hany M (Hany)
Hi, I'm getting this error when using apxs (apache 2.0.24): ./apxs -i -a -c iCAP.h iCAP_protocol.h mod_iCAP.h co.h co_protocol.c iCAP_protocol.c mod_iCAP.c libtool --silent --mode=compile gcc -g -O2 -pthread -I/usr/local/apache2/include -c -o co_protocol.lo co_protocol.c && touch co_protocol.sl

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Graham Leggett
Bill Stoddard wrote: > I am a strong +1 in favor of making this a subproject and probably rolling it into a >post > 2.0 release. The presence of mod_gz in the core now -will- impact folks who are >working on > stabilizing the server. What about putting it in the experimental directory? This wa

Re: [PATCH] Take 3 of mod_include patch...

2001-09-06 Thread Bill Stoddard
> On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:36, Ian Holsman wrote: > > On Thu, 2001-09-06 at 08:12, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > > I have some big problems with the way that location walk and > > > > > directory walk work now, BTW, because if I write a module that > > > > > doesn't get pages from the filesys

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Bill Stoddard
> Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > We have no control over APR. APR will not make a release just because > > the web server wants it to. Apache needs to either use an already released > > APR, or it needs to specify a date/time to check out APR. > > We have no control over libc either, and yet we use th

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Bill Stoddard
+1 on the veto :-) I am a strong +1 in favor of making this a subproject and probably rolling it into a post 2.0 release. The presence of mod_gz in the core now -will- impact folks who are working on stabilizing the server. Bill > * On 2001-09-06 at 11:51, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Graham Leggett
Ryan Bloom wrote: > Just ran a few tests with OtherBill. IIS 5.0's default behavior, at least, is > not to gzip an html file. We already support gzip encoding today. This > discussion is about on-the-fly gzip compression. I tried to negotiate a gzip compressed document from a dynamic ASP file

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Greg Marr
At 01:32 PM 09/06/2001, Stas Bekman wrote: >Also the regex that does s/(foo)/{foo}/ is cleaner in case someone was >doing $(foo)_bar with the current patch, this will break, since it >makes >$foo_bar, whereas it should be better ${foo}_bar. A regexp is overkill in this case, assuming that the in

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:56, Graham Leggett wrote: Just ran a few tests with OtherBill. IIS 5.0's default behavior, at least, is not to gzip an html file. We already support gzip encoding today. This discussion is about on-the-fly gzip compression. Ryan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Stas Bekman wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > On Thursday 06 September 2001 10:03, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:35, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, jean-frederic cler

Re: [PATCH] Take 3 of mod_include patch...

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Holsman
On Wed, 2001-09-05 at 19:11, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 06:46:45PM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: > > Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > [...] getting back to the original patch to find_start_sequence. does anyone have any comments on this? I'm seeing lower CPU utilization when using

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Holsman
apxs is working again. I'm getting the CORE dump form my hourly test cron job. as soon as the core dump is fixed I'll aim the email to dev@ (don't worry it only mails when there is a change in test results. not every hour) On Thu, 2001-09-06 at 10:07, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Thursday 06 September

Re: 1.3 apxs problems with Linux...

2001-09-06 Thread Stas Bekman
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Ok, now, I might be a complete idiot, but I'm hearing way-too-many > complaints about apxs not exporting the LD_SHLIB value under Linux. > > Did anyone encountered this problem before? Or can I safely assume that > apxs -q LD_SHLIB = apxs -q CC This d

Re: [PATCH] optimization for setting of allowed methods

2001-09-06 Thread Greg Marr
At 12:58 PM 09/06/2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: >> Weren't these "method numbers" recently removed so that there are >> no "standard" methods, and all the methods are added the same way >> at run time? > >In order to keep backwards compat, keep the patch small, and keep >the performance high for the

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Graham Leggett
Ryan Bloom wrote: > You missed my point. Your original message said that the first step was to > release APR. That is incorrect. We do not release APR on this list, and if > that is our first step, then it is broken. We can either use a previously released > version of APR, or we can use a ti

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Stas Bekman
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2001 10:03, Stas Bekman wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:35, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, jean-frederic clere wrote: > > > > > It fixes the problem I had, than

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:42, Graham Leggett wrote: > Ryan Bloom wrote: > > We have no control over APR. APR will not make a release just because > > the web server wants it to. Apache needs to either use an already > > released APR, or it needs to specify a date/time to check out APR. >

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 10:03, Stas Bekman wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:35, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, jean-frederic clere wrote: > > > > It fixes the problem I had, thanks - Do not forget to commit it - > > > > > > I d

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Stas Bekman
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:35, Stas Bekman wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, jean-frederic clere wrote: > > > It fixes the problem I had, thanks - Do not forget to commit it - > > > > I don't have commit access to httpd. Ryan will probably commit for me

Random Filter Syntax observations...

2001-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
- Original Message - From: "barries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: [PATCH] add Push...Filter, alter Set...Filter > This patch makes Set...Filter replace all configed filters and > introduces Push...Filters to provide the curren

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:35, Stas Bekman wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, jean-frederic clere wrote: > > It fixes the problem I had, thanks - Do not forget to commit it - > > I don't have commit access to httpd. Ryan will probably commit for me :) Doug beat me to it. :-) Ryan __

Re: [PATCH] optimization for setting of allowed methods

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:29, Greg Marr wrote: > At 11:50 AM 09/06/2001, Brian Pane wrote: > >This patch eliminates some run-time conversion of method names to > >numbers (something that I noticed while looking through function > >call profiles). > > > >RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-2.0/s

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Graham Leggett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am veto'ing this, for now at least. I will support making mod_gz > a separate sub-project of httpd, and possibly rolling it into a later > release of 2.0, but now is not the time to do this. A separate subproject for something as small as this module sounds a

Re: [PATCH] Take 3 of mod_include patch...

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:36, Ian Holsman wrote: > On Thu, 2001-09-06 at 08:12, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > I have some big problems with the way that location walk and > > > > directory walk work now, BTW, because if I write a module that > > > > doesn't get pages from the filesystem, I have

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Graham Leggett
Ryan Bloom wrote: > We have no control over APR. APR will not make a release just because > the web server wants it to. Apache needs to either use an already released > APR, or it needs to specify a date/time to check out APR. We have no control over libc either, and yet we use that. Surely we

RE: why not post mod_gzip 2.0? (was: Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz tohttpd-2.0)

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Holsman
Please stop this thread. the RC folks have decided not to submit mod_gzip 2.0. On Thu, 2001-09-06 at 09:04, Gomez Henri wrote: > >> Why won't you post mod_gzip 2.0 *today*? > > >Because Apache 2.x is not STABLE, not In BETA and the API set is not yet > >FROZEN... When it is, we will releas

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Stas Bekman
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, jean-frederic clere wrote: > It fixes the problem I had, thanks - Do not forget to commit it - I don't have commit access to httpd. Ryan will probably commit for me :) > Stas Bekman wrote: > > > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > > > > > I made the change to the

Re: [PATCH] Take 3 of mod_include patch...

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Holsman
On Thu, 2001-09-06 at 08:12, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > I have some big problems with the way that location walk and directory > > > walk work now, BTW, because if I write a module that doesn't get pages > > > from the filesystem, I have to catch those in the map_to_storage hook, > > > or the serv

Re: [PATCH] optimization for setting of allowed methods

2001-09-06 Thread Greg Marr
At 11:50 AM 09/06/2001, Brian Pane wrote: >This patch eliminates some run-time conversion of method names to >numbers (something that I noticed while looking through function >call profiles). > >RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-2.0/server/core.c,v >-ap_allow_methods(r, MERGE_ALLOW, "GET", "OP

Re: [VOTE] Remove mod_ldap

2001-09-06 Thread Graham Leggett
Ryan Bloom wrote: > It seems that most people on this list were surprised to see mod_ldap in > the core. We all expected a small LDAP library in apr-util, and nothing > in the core. Since there are at least two people who have mentioned that > they would have voted -1 for mod_ldap, can I get a

Re: why not post mod_gzip 2.0? (was: Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0)

2001-09-06 Thread Graham Leggett
"Peter J. Cranstone" wrote: > Because Apache 2.x is not STABLE, not In BETA and the API set is not yet > FROZEN... When it is, we will release mod_gzip as a third party module, > which we will support and maintain. Why not just release a beta of mod_gzip today for v2.0 and say that it is not yet

Re: remaining CPU bottlenecks in 2.0

2001-09-06 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:40:24PM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:34:30PM -0700, Ian Holsman wrote: > > I got 1 more question about the solaris implementation > > of the Threaded/Worker MPM. > > > > > > should we be called the setconcurrency flag on startup ? > > I

[PATCH] mod_include fix

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
Well, I finally made myself look at this and fix it. This passed the httpd-test cases now, and it looks correct to me. I would like to apply this ASAP. I dislike that we have to pstrdup the "" string, but we try to modify that string too often to use a constant string. Ryan Index: server/req

1.3 apxs problems with Linux...

2001-09-06 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Ok, now, I might be a complete idiot, but I'm hearing way-too-many complaints about apxs not exporting the LD_SHLIB value under Linux. Did anyone encountered this problem before? Or can I safely assume that apxs -q LD_SHLIB = apxs -q CC if the first one doesn't return the right values? Thanks a

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 08:53, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > * On 2001-09-06 at 11:51, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> excited the electrons to say: > > I am veto'ing this, for now at least. I will support making mod_gz > > a separate sub-project of httpd, and possibly rol

RE: why not post mod_gzip 2.0? (was: Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0)

2001-09-06 Thread Gomez Henri
>> Why won't you post mod_gzip 2.0 *today*? >Because Apache 2.x is not STABLE, not In BETA and the API set is not yet >FROZEN... When it is, we will release mod_gzip as a third party module, >which we will support and maintain. There is actually many alpha release, and many of then are more than

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread jean-frederic clere
It fixes the problem I had, thanks - Do not forget to commit it - Stas Bekman wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > > I made the change to the way config_vars is created, and it needs to be > > this way for the --with-layout stuff to work correctly. We may be able to > > fix

[PATCH] optimization for setting of allowed methods

2001-09-06 Thread Brian Pane
This patch eliminates some run-time conversion of method names to numbers (something that I noticed while looking through function call profiles). --Brian Index: include/http_request.h === RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-2.0/include

Re: [VOTE] Remove mod_ldap

2001-09-06 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > It seems that most people on this list were surprised to see mod_ldap in > the core. We all expected a small LDAP library in apr-util, and nothing > in the core. Since there are at least two people who have mentioned that > they would have voted -1 for

Re: zlib inclusion and mod_gz(ip) recap

2001-09-06 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Greg Stein wrote: > mod_gz is just a little bugger off to the side that the core people don't > have to truly worry about. ... > It can go in now and be fixed over time. ... > modules which have *nothing* to do with stability. so you're saying mod_gz would go into modules/ex

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
* On 2001-09-06 at 11:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> excited the electrons to say: > > I am veto'ing this, for now at least. I will support making mod_gz > a separate sub-project of httpd, and possibly rolling it into a later > release of 2.0, but now is not the time to do thi

Re: [VOTE] Remove mod_ldap

2001-09-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > It seems that most people on this list were surprised to see mod_ldap in > the core. We all expected a small LDAP library in apr-util, and nothing > in the core. Since there are at least two people who have mentioned that > they would have voted -1 for mo

Re: [PATCH] Take 3 of mod_include patch...

2001-09-06 Thread Brian Pane
Ryan Bloom wrote: >>>I have some big problems with the way that location walk and directory >>>walk work now, BTW, because if I write a module that doesn't get pages >>>from the filesystem, I have to catch those in the map_to_storage hook, >>>or the server will 500. >>> >>Hmm... I'd have thought

Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c

2001-09-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > bnicholes01/09/06 07:48:46 > > > > Modified:src/os/netware mod_tls.c > > Log: > > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual > > authentication functionalit

Re: apxs broken

2001-09-06 Thread Stas Bekman
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > I made the change to the way config_vars is created, and it needs to be > this way for the --with-layout stuff to work correctly. We may be able to > fix that problem, but we have a conflict between shell scripts and perl. > > We need to fix apxs to stri

Re: [PATCH] Take 3 of mod_include patch...

2001-09-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > Hmm... I'd have thought that was the whole point of the map_to_storage > > hook, if its name were any indication... > > It is, but if I am just putting together a quick module, to solve a > problem and it generates the page itself, all I should have to

Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/os/netware mod_tls.c

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 08:09, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > bnicholes01/09/06 07:48:46 > > > > Modified:src/os/netware mod_tls.c > > Log: > > Added the ability for MOD_TLS to take advantage of the mutual > > authenticat

Re: Proposal: Future release strategies

2001-09-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thursday 06 September 2001 05:01, Graham Leggett wrote: > o We release apr-x.x.x.tar.gz containing APR, which can be installed > separately (this is the direction APR seems to be going, we should > follow it through to it's logical conclusion). We have no control over APR. APR will not make

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