Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Orton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 07:10:37PM -0600, William Rowe wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: If apr 1.0 or 1.1 happen to be installed, I don't see why it's not reasonable to fail to configure. The administrator may intend to link against the system version, they may not want httpd having its own

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:12 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: So we've been compiling and improving the code, but the build/ install status is -worse- than httpd-2.0, ergo this is not the best version of apache now available and is -not- ready for GA. I just built from

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Andreas Lindström
Any users who run httpd are unlikely to have installed APR 1.[01] given that APR 1.x has never been supported by an httpd release to date. It's really only httpd/APR developers who are likely to get into this situation. (APR 1.x has never been shipped in a Subversion tarball) As far as i

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:06:37AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ok, but did you try installing into a tree that has, say, a fink port of svn based on apr 1.0 or 1.1? We are (mostly) talking about where httpd is finding stale APR versions related to non-httpd packages. (Non-httpd,

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:06:37AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ok, but did you try installing into a tree that has, say, a fink port of svn based on apr 1.0 or 1.1? We are (mostly) talking about where httpd Subversion has never officially supported anything other than APR 0.9.x - i.e.

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 11:11:26AM +0100, Andreas Lindström wrote: Any users who run httpd are unlikely to have installed APR 1.[01] given that APR 1.x has never been supported by an httpd release to date. It's really only httpd/APR developers who are likely to get into this situation.

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Joe Orton wrote: If some random user has APR 1.1 installed in /usr/local/apr, and builds httpd 2.2 with --prefix=/usr/local/httpd-2.2, it would be a Bad Thing (and certainly, very surprising behaviour) if that httpd install went ahead and silently upgraded that APR install. AGREED! Never

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 1 december 2005 07.54 skrev Roy T. Fielding: On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:12 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'm 100% conviced next to nobody on this list has been developing and testing httpd-2.2/apr-1.2 without their own in-tree tweaks. I'm as guilty as anyone. So we've

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Nick Kew
On Thursday 01 December 2005 14:47, Oden Eriksson wrote: I added mysql support in apr-util-1.2.2 as per INSTALL.MySQL as a conditional build switch in our rpm package, that was only possible after doing a lot of hacks. Are those hacks anything we/I should know about and fix, or are they

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 1 december 2005 16.01 skrev Nick Kew: On Thursday 01 December 2005 14:47, Oden Eriksson wrote: I added mysql support in apr-util-1.2.2 as per INSTALL.MySQL as a conditional build switch in our rpm package, that was only possible after doing a lot of hacks. Are those hacks

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 12/01/2005 08:15 AM, Sander Temme wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:53 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: [..cut..] Is buildconf present? If the user runs it, does it corrupt the unpacked tree? If this is so, and it's broken, then perhaps remove buildconf throughout the tree, and

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Graham Leggett
Ruediger Pluem wrote: BTW: buildconf is also used by the rpm spec file that is delivered with the tar ball. To be honest I don't think the rpm build script needs to run buildconf, it seems to be a hangup from when the spec file was the Redhat one, and they needed to do custom stuff, all of

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-12-01 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 12/01/2005 10:01 PM, Graham Leggett wrote: Ruediger Pluem wrote: BTW: buildconf is also used by the rpm spec file that is delivered with the tar ball. To be honest I don't think the rpm build script needs to run buildconf, it seems to be a hangup from when the spec file was the

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Joe Orton wrote: It's pretty silly for anybody to suddenly wake up and declare some random bug as a showstopper for 2.2. Nobody has cared enough about the problem to fix it in the six months and four(?) 2.1.x alpha/beta releases that mod_dbd has been in the tree. So it clearly isn't really

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: Joe Orton wrote: Win32 is not special. It's a second-class citizen if anything because it gets so little developer attention. Now *that's* a statement for the Release Notes :) Absolutely, add to this list AIX, OS2, Netware, BeOS, HPUX and many others. Not to mention

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Joost de Heer wrote: Win32 is not special. It's a second-class citizen if anything because it gets so little developer attention. And how many people compile the thing on Windows anyway, except the msi builder? My guess is that I need about 2 hands to count them Au contrare, I get

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Jess Holle
Once 2.2 is released we'll be working to use it -- and distribute it with our products -- on Windows, Solaris, and AIX. I throw in patches relevant to these platforms when possible, but I don't have the time or interest in native (non-Java) code anymore to help out more. -- Jess Holle

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:22:58PM +, Nick Kew wrote: Can someone clarify: what happens *by default* if APR 1.0/1.1 is found on a target machine? If it tries to build against that, I'd support a -1. If it does something sensible - which could be emitting an error message and refusing to

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Nick Kew wrote: I diskile bundling APR, and dislike even more bundling third-party libs like expat and pcre. But I thought I/we had just lost that argument with louder voices. We lost the argument over pcre; our requirement is apparently just a little to particular to have the user obtain

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:43:24PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Exactly. I've stopped testing httpd-2.1.x because there was nobody interested in testing apr-iconv 1.1.1, a prereq to httpd-2.1/2.2. Without any community interest, httpd on Win32 is clearly my toy, not a project port. It

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Steffen
Build the php5apache2.dll ( php 5.1.1 apache2handler) with 2.2.0 on Win32. No issues. Steffen

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:43:24PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It was hardly nobody, I may be shoddily inexperienced with the win32 port, but I did go to the trouble of testing apr-iconv on win32 and have been regularly building 2.1/2.2 on win32 to make sure it

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/30/05, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:43:24PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It was hardly nobody, I may be shoddily inexperienced with the win32 port, but I did go to the trouble of testing apr-iconv on win32

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Olaf van der Spek wrote: Wouldn't it help if (beta) binaries are posted to http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi? In general yes. In the case I mentioned, NO - you cannot post a candidate which hasn't received 3 +1's, and you certainly cannot push it out to the mirrors. But our alphas/betas

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:22:58PM +, Nick Kew wrote: Can someone clarify: what happens *by default* if APR 1.0/1.1 is found on a target machine? If it tries to build against that, I'd support a -1. If it does something sensible - which could be emitting an error

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:22:58PM +, Nick Kew wrote: Can someone clarify: what happens *by default* if APR 1.0/1.1 is found on a target machine? If it tries to build against that, I'd support a -1. If it does something sensible - which could be emitting an error

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:33:51PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ok, so explain to me why we wasted a MB or two distributing srclib/apr/ and srclib/apr-util/ when the result is; That's not the result when you don't have apr/apu 1.x [x:2] installed. apr and apr-util 1.2 are bundled for

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:39:30PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ok, now what the heck? Looks like you've pointed the --with-apr options at trees which have been built, but arn't installed targets. find_apr.m4 tests for bin/apr-1-config -- Colm MacCárthaighPublic

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 12:59:12AM +, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:39:30PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ok, now what the heck? Looks like you've pointed the --with-apr options at trees which have been built, but arn't installed targets. find_apr.m4 tests for

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: If apr 1.0 or 1.1 happen to be installed, I don't see why it's not reasonable to fail to configure. The administrator may intend to link against the system version, they may not want httpd having its own libapr. And they're the only people capable of making that decision

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 07:10:37PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: * admins who install 1.1 for some specific reason are responsible to ensure they deal with the new package correctly (e.g., we give them a message upon configure Found old APR 1.1.0, installing APR 1.2.2 for you

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Sander Temme
On Nov 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-apr=srclib/apr --with-apr- util=srclib/apr-util checking for chosen layout... Apache [...] checking for APR version 1.2.0 or later... yes checking for APR-util version 1.2.0 or later... no

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 01:25:38AM +, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: There's no reason why this can't be fixed during 2.2, but with a months old issue, and no sign of a patch, should it hold up a GA? No way. -- justin

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Sander Temme wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-apr=srclib/apr --with-apr- util=srclib/apr-util checking for chosen layout... Apache [...] checking for APR version 1.2.0 or later... yes checking for APR-util version 1.2.0 or

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: There's no reason why this can't be fixed during 2.2, but with a months old issue, and no sign of a patch, should it hold up a GA? I'm 100% conviced next to nobody on this list has been developing and testing httpd-2.2/apr-1.2 without their own in-tree tweaks. I'm as

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Sander Temme
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:10 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Sander Temme wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-apr=srclib/apr --with-apr- util=srclib/apr-util checking for chosen layout... Apache [...] checking for APR version

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:12 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'm 100% conviced next to nobody on this list has been developing and testing httpd-2.2/apr-1.2 without their own in-tree tweaks. I'm as guilty as anyone. So we've been compiling and improving the code, but the build/ install

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:35:07PM -0800, Sander Temme wrote: I'm looking at this. If you give that apu buildconf the right --with- apr parameter, buildconf completes. The problem is, if the Just to reiterate - buildconf is not necessary for users to run.

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Sander Temme
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:53 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:35:07PM -0800, Sander Temme wrote: I'm looking at this. If you give that apu buildconf the right -- with- apr parameter, buildconf completes. The problem is, if the Just to

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 28, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Paul Querna wrote: Available from: http://people.apache.org/~pquerna/dev/httpd-2.2.0/ Please vote on releasing as GA/Stable. +1 for release as 2.2.0. I have verified the signatures, compared the contents, diffed

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 12:53:22AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Is buildconf present? If the user runs it, does it corrupt the unpacked tree? Um. Have you even *tried* to run './buildconf' in an extracted httpd 2.2.0 tarball? I have - guess what? It works just fine. Therefore, there

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Paul Querna
Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Okay, I lied, slightly: * svn r348009: Added AP_DECLARE to mod_dbd exported functions. No

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:55:48PM -0800, Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Available from:

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Paul Querna
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:55:48PM -0800, Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Available from:

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Luc Pardon
Available from: http://people.apache.org/~pquerna/dev/httpd-2.2.0/ FWIW, the MIME types for the .md5 files seem to be wrong. The .bz2.md5 is served as application/x-tar and .gz.md5 is application/x-gzip. Luc

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Kew
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 08:32, Paul Querna wrote: Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Okay, I lied, slightly: * svn

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Joe Orton
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:55:48PM -0800, Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Available from:

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/29/05, Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Okay, I lied, slightly: Shouldn't the

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jess Holle
I'm no commiter but must concur -- until the build runs cleanly on Windows 2.2.0 should not go out the door. Not everyone may like it, but Windows is a major Apache usage platform these days. -- Jess Holle Nick Kew wrote: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 08:32, Paul Querna wrote:

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:53:52AM -0600, Jess Holle wrote: I'm no commiter but must concur -- until the build runs cleanly on Windows 2.2.0 should not go out the door. Not everyone may like it, but Windows is a major Apache usage platform these days. mod_dbd isn't included in the win32

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jess Holle
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:53:52AM -0600, Jess Holle wrote: I'm no commiter but must concur -- until the build runs cleanly on Windows 2.2.0 should not go out the door. Not everyone may like it, but Windows is a major Apache usage platform these days.

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Steffen
- From: Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:53:52AM -0600, Jess Holle wrote: I'm no commiter but must concur -- until the build runs cleanly on Windows 2.2.0

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jim Jagielski
Steffen wrote: Build with no issue here on Windows, except mod_authn_db and dmod_dbd. In the change log: *) Add mod_authn_dbd (SQL-based authentication) [Nick Kew] I agree with Jesse: 2.2.0 should not go out the door until we can build mod_authn_db and mod_dbd on windows. +1 --

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:03:59PM +0100, Steffen wrote: Build with no issue here on Windows, except mod_authn_db and dmod_dbd. How are you building these? there's no .dsp file for either, nor are they in Makefile.win. The distributed source tree not building is one thing, but modules people

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Kew
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 12:24, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:53:52AM -0600, Jess Holle wrote: I'm no commiter but must concur -- until the build runs cleanly on Windows 2.2.0 should not go out the door. Not everyone may like it, but Windows is a major Apache

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Steffen
, mod_fcgid and mod_log_rotate), see www.apachelounge.com. Steffen - Original Message - From: Nick Kew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs On Tuesday 29 November 2005 12:24, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:03:59PM +0100, Steffen wrote: Build with no issue here on Windows, except mod_authn_db and dmod_dbd. In the change log: *) Add mod_authn_dbd (SQL-based authentication) [Nick Kew] I agree with Jesse: 2.2.0 should not go out the door until we can build

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jim Jagielski
Joe Orton wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:03:59PM +0100, Steffen wrote: Build with no issue here on Windows, except mod_authn_db and dmod_dbd. In the change log: *) Add mod_authn_dbd (SQL-based authentication) [Nick Kew] I agree with Jesse: 2.2.0 should not go out the door

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jess Holle
Joe Orton wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:03:59PM +0100, Steffen wrote: Build with no issue here on Windows, except mod_authn_db and dmod_dbd. In the change log: *) Add mod_authn_dbd (SQL-based authentication) [Nick Kew] I agree with Jesse: 2.2.0 should not go out the door

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jess Holle
Jim Jagielski wrote: Joe Orton wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:03:59PM +0100, Steffen wrote: Build with no issue here on Windows, except mod_authn_db and dmod_dbd. In the change log: *) Add mod_authn_dbd (SQL-based authentication) [Nick Kew] I agree with Jesse: 2.2.0 should not

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Kew
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 15:03, Joe Orton wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:03:59PM +0100, Steffen wrote: Build with no issue here on Windows, except mod_authn_db and dmod_dbd. In the change log: *) Add mod_authn_dbd (SQL-based authentication) [Nick Kew] I agree with Jesse:

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:16:04AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: mod_dbd is explicitly mentioned as a new feature of 2.2 and, therefore, a compelling reason to upgrade. Either we stop refering to mod_dbd as something special enough to warrant special attention as a core enhancement or we fix it

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jim Jagielski
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:16:04AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: mod_dbd is explicitly mentioned as a new feature of 2.2 and, therefore, a compelling reason to upgrade. Either we stop refering to mod_dbd as something special enough to warrant special attention as

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:43AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: I would agree, as long as we remove it for the What's New pages until it actually works and builds. My point, obviously, was that we can't have it both ways and say mod_dbd is great and a new core enhancement if it doesn't even

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/29/05, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:43AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: I would agree, as long as we remove it for the What's New pages until it actually works and builds. My point, obviously, was that we can't have it both ways and say

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 29, 2005, at 2:55 AM, Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Available from:

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:43AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:16:04AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: mod_dbd is explicitly mentioned as a new feature of 2.2 and, therefore, a compelling reason to upgrade. Either we stop refering to

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 04:38:01PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Why not add a special 'except on Windows' clause to that page? It's not like it'll never work. Someone will get around to fixing it. IMHO, this is exactly what release notes are for. -- justin

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Kew
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 15:22, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: We can note it in the release notes and move along. -- justin Indeed, that's fine by me. I've just committed a documentation update to Trunk. If we backport that to branch-2.2, I'll withdraw my objections. -- Nick Kew

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Steffen
@httpd.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:16:04AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: mod_dbd is explicitly mentioned as a new feature of 2.2 and, therefore, a compelling reason to upgrade. Either we stop refering

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 29, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:43AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: I would agree, as long as we remove it for the What's New pages until it actually works and builds. My point, obviously, was that we can't have it both ways and say mod_dbd

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jim Jagielski
Joe Orton wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:43AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:16:04AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: mod_dbd is explicitly mentioned as a new feature of 2.2 and, therefore, a compelling reason to upgrade. Either

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:46:55AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: Either we: 1. Remove it from the feature list 2. Keep it in there, but document that it doesn't build under Win32 3. Someone who knows Win32 adds whatever magic is required to have it build. #2 would be in the

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jim Jagielski
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:46:55AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: Either we: 1. Remove it from the feature list 2. Keep it in there, but document that it doesn't build under Win32 3. Someone who knows Win32 adds whatever magic is required to

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:56:56AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: #2 would be in the release notes. I don't think anyone has said we wouldn't note it. That wasn't clear at the start of this thread. There was a tone of I don't care, that's no reason to stop the release and the impression

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:20:50PM +, Nick Kew wrote: As for suddenly waking up, please note the date on http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-devm=113266737311013w=2 mod_dbd compiles fine for me when I remove the AP_DECLARE wrappers actually. But that might break the symbol export

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Joost de Heer
Win32 is not special. It's a second-class citizen if anything because it gets so little developer attention. And how many people compile the thing on Windows anyway, except the msi builder? My guess is that I need about 2 hands to count them Joost

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Brad Nicholes
I didn't expect the NetWare fixes to go in until 2.2.1. Thanks for including them. +1 GA (NetWare) Brad On 11/29/2005 at 1:32:32 am, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: *

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Jess Holle
We don't until the first GA release, but from there on out we compile just about every release ourselves as we often end up applying our own patches when we find issues (submitting them back, of course) and we do our own cross-platform installation packaging, automated configuration, etc, of

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Paul Querna
Paul Querna wrote: Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Okay, I lied, slightly: * svn r348009: Added AP_DECLARE to mod_dbd

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 09:30:30AM -0800, Paul Querna wrote: My vote, +1 for GA, tested lightly on FreeBSD 5.4/x86, and OSX 10.4.3/ppc. Also based on diff of the 2.1.10 and 2.2.0 tarballs. +1 here too, tested on ubuntu. -- Colm MacCárthaighPublic Key: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:53:52AM -0600, Jess Holle wrote: I'm no commiter but must concur -- until the build runs cleanly on Windows 2.2.0 should not go out the door. Not everyone may like it, but Windows is a major Apache usage platform these days. O.k., can any win32 users please test

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Wilfredo Sánchez Vega
+1 on Mac OS. -wsv On Nov 28, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Available from:

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 29 november 2005 08.55 skrev Paul Querna: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Available from:

[vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-28 Thread Paul Querna
These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Available from: http://people.apache.org/~pquerna/dev/httpd-2.2.0/ Please vote on releasing as GA/Stable. I am