Re: [resources] 1.0.0 Release Candidate 1

2005-11-29 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 11/28/05, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ It might be worthwhile looking at the serializablity contracts in [resources]. I don't know if there is interest. Maybe, depends what you come up with :-) snap/ OK, unless

[all] Together, and bricks apart

2005-11-30 Thread Rahul Akolkar
I believe Jakarta Commons (especially the sandbox) is one of the wonderful playgrounds we have under the Apache umbrella. Having started a sandbox project recently, I continue to be amazed by the Commons community and its responsiveness in day-to-day operations. I'm also seeing a trend that is a

[chain] Serializability of base impls

2005-11-30 Thread Rahul Akolkar
Recently, while looking at a codebase that uses Commons Chain, I was drawn to the top commit message for ContextBase [1]. I'm interested in knowing what the developer (and user too) opinions are on this topic. Has anybody made any progress on this? Does anyone have a preference among - * Keep

Re: commons-concoct - new project proposal

2005-11-30 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 11/30/05, Matt Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oddly enough, I have spent the last week point five working on a similar setup at $work. My syntax is slightly different (extended I would say). If this proposal is accepted in principle, I could query my boss whether we could make any

Re: [chain] Serializability of base impls

2005-11-30 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 11/30/05, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/30/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, while looking at a codebase that uses Commons Chain, I was drawn to the top commit message for ContextBase [1]. I'm interested in knowing what the developer (and user too

Re: HELP! - WAS: Re: [vote][net] Release commons-net 1.4.1?

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/3/05, Steve Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh, the release process has gotten much hairier since I last did it! 5 hours and I'm still not all the way there. And this was supposed to be a simple release. Phooey. I decided that that easiest way to do this simple release fixing ONLY

Re: HELP! - WAS: Re: [vote][net] Release commons-net 1.4.1?

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/3/05, Steve Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory Winston wrote: statcvs and svn dont work together (yet)... http://www.researchkitchen.co.uk/blog/archives/13 I just turned off the statcvs report last time. where do you do that? Project.xml? snip/ Yup, for this project.xml

Re: HELP! - WAS: Re: [vote][net] Release commons-net 1.4.1?

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/3/05, Steve Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, made it down to step 12 now. * Update Jakarta News Page Add a standard news item announcing the release to the current Jakarta news page. Look for the page whose name covers today's date in the site/xdocs/site/news directory. For

Re: HELP! - WAS: Re: [vote][net] Release commons-net 1.4.1?

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/3/05, Steve Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pls disregard. I figured it out. snip/ Yup, noticed that as I clicked send to the earlier email. I think you've a typo, the id for the net 1.4.1 news item should be 20051203.1 (instead of 2005203.1) -Rahul Steve Cohen wrote: okay, made it

Re: [Jakarta-commons Wiki] Update of CreatingStandardWebPresence by RahulAkolkar

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/3/05, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what is actually meant by 'not default' here ? snip/ I was wondering about that myself, I read the The Problem part of the wiki page but [collections] seems to fit The Plan. Maybe those non default comments on the wiki page

Re: [all] short critique of site

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/1/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some thoughts on the site. snip/ B] Clicking on sandbox. 1) There are many projects which have become dormant. How should we be changing the site? 2) Corresponding Wiki page needs changing [my fault :) ] snap/ I tinkered with one of

[all] Website changes (was Re: short critique of site)

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/3/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ The current sandbox page [2] (and therefore Commons home page as well) list them together, would there be any interest in separating the dormant components so the website actually matches

Re: HELP! - WAS: Re: [vote][net] Release commons-net 1.4.1?

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/3/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/3/05, Steve Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, made it down to step 12 now. snip/ However, there is no such file since 2nd quarter of 2005, and the index.xml mentions that this has now been retired, and the apache site now

Re: HELP! - WAS: Re: [vote][net] Release commons-net 1.4.1?

2005-12-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/4/05, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My attempt to help the next person in line avoid the same confusion (by updating step 12) is available as 37779 [1]. -Rahul [1] http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37779 Applied. You know, you can do this yourself ;-)

Re: [all] Website changes (was Re: short critique of site)

2005-12-04 Thread Rahul Akolkar
Please see three responses consolidated in one email below - On 12/4/05, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rahul Akolkar wrote: I've posted a version of the Commons website in my ~ snip/ http://people.apache.org/~rahul/commons/ snap/ The Jakarta Commons project is composed

Re: [scxml] removing superstep, etc.

2005-12-05 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/5/05, Barnett, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've developed a version of SCXML that matches the spec's semantics more closely (no superstep, single event queue, internal and external events treated identically, etc.) snip/ This is great, thanks. I am not going to check it in right

Re: HELP! - WAS: Re: [vote][net] Release commons-net 1.4.1?

2005-12-05 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/5/05, Steve Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Logging on via ssh -1 works. Does apache accept protocol 2 ssh keys? snap/ Atleast the RSA one, AFAICT. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

[all] Website TODOs

2005-12-05 Thread Rahul Akolkar
I've refreshed the Commons website according to recent discussions. TODOs: 1) Dormant components revival (website says [1] we need a VOTE according to the sandbox pruning proposal [2]). Any objections? 2) There are 6 links under View Source Code Repository, a bit of a clutter. Hen was to check

Re: [all] Website TODOs

2005-12-05 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/5/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've refreshed the Commons website according to recent discussions. snip/ Oh, and therefore, yell at me if you notice any regressions ;-) -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: [OT] Follow-up on license compatibility

2005-12-06 Thread Rahul Akolkar
Please allow me to suggest taking these questions to legal-discuss@ Though there may be many subscribed to this list who are quite well informed about licensing, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is probably not a good forum for these discussions. Marked OT. -Rahul On 12/6/05, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL

Re: [OT] Follow-up on license compatibility

2005-12-06 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/6/05, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, that list isn't open to non-committers except by invitation... could a committer possible repost there my query for me, and of course by extension any resulting answer? Unless anyone wants to extend an invitation ;) snip/

Re: [compress] playing around

2005-12-06 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/6/05, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, I probably wouldn't choose a component in the sandbox to start off with. If I were you, I'd start with one of the more popular commons components from the proper. You might try Collections, Lang, BeanUtils, or Digester. Those are the

Re: [all] Javapolis speech on Commons

2005-12-06 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/6/05, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be giving a 15 minute speech on Commons at Javapolis, I titled it 'new and upcoming at commons' Now there is very little I can really cover in 15 minutes, but does anyone have any comments? snip/ Thanks for asking. At present

Re: [VOTE] Release commons math 1.1

2005-12-07 Thread Rahul Akolkar
-0 RandomDataTest#testConfig() assumes SUN will be available as a provider for the SHA-1 PRNG. Depending on your JDK, this may cause test (and therefore, build) failures (as it did on one of my machines). I understand this is *not* a [math] issue, but IMO, it will be good if the test case can

Re: [all] [jci][openpgp][exec] Javapolis speech on Commons

2005-12-09 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/9/05, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try and get to the latter ones by then. snip/ Exec has been published [1] (as you must be well aware, no doubt), it just needs a blurb (I recently added it to the menu bar on the left, so notice the sandbox entity in the About Us menu has

Re: [all] [jci][openpgp][exec] Javapolis speech on Commons

2005-12-09 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/9/05, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rahul Akolkar wrote: Exec has been published [1] (as you must be well aware, no doubt), it just needs a blurb (I recently added it to the menu bar on the left, so notice the sandbox entity in the About Us menu has Exec listed

Re: svn commit: r355783 - /jakarta/commons/proper/math/branches/MATH_1_1/src/test/org/apache/commons/math/random/RandomDataTest.java

2005-12-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: psteitz Date: Sat Dec 10 13:22:28 2005 New Revision: 355783 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=355783view=rev Log: Removed test dependency on SUN security provider. Reported (and patched) by Rahul Akolkar. Bz #37862 snip

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons FileUpload 1.1-RC1

2005-12-11 Thread Rahul Akolkar
+1 I would, however, like to see the deprecations issued in IO 1.1 removed from the fileupload 1.1 sources. A (minor) patch to that effect is available for consideration in bugzilla, item 37865 [1]. -Rahul [1] http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37865 On 12/11/05, Martin Cooper

Re: [all] Website changes (was Re: short critique of site)

2005-12-11 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/10/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Just talked with Leo. We can drop the direct links and just use viewcvs. The big problems are: a) cvsgrab tool, which is effectively a viewcvs scraper b) using viewcvs for the site. ie) not publishing the site and just hooking the

Re: [RE-VOTE] Release Commons Math 1.1

2005-12-13 Thread Rahul Akolkar
+1 -Rahul On 12/12/05, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problems reported with math 1.1 RC4 have been fixed. I would like to call for another release vote, based on the release candidate available here: http://people.apache.org/~psteitz/commons-math/1-1-rc5 Release notes are

Re: [test] Awake dormant component

2005-12-14 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/14/05, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what the official process is, but I propose it should be possible for anyone to move it from dormant to sandbox (and back to proper in accordance with the sandbox rules). snip/ As listed in the sandbox pruning proposal [1] and

Re: [all] md5 checksum file formats

2005-12-17 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/17/05, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We seem to be converging on a standard (mentioned in /releases/release.html as an ASF standard, but I can't find it documented anywhere) for md5 checksum files that takes the form hash *name I am curious as to where the extra stuff comes

Re: svn commit: r357480 - /jakarta/commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/xdocs/contributors.xml

2005-12-18 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/18/05, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is automatically generated, so if you are in a project.xml somewhere in commons-proper you should already end up there.. snip/ Thanks, I know you discussed this, I somehow didn't keep up with that thread. I'm not listed in any

Re: [vfs][REVOTE] release version 1.0

2005-12-19 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/19/05, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Checked again, and it works now! So I am +1 for the release. No one else? snip/ FWIW, I will express my non-binding opinion by the end of the week, if this vote is still open. Should I delay the release until all the discussion

Re: [all] Javapolis speech on Commons

2005-12-19 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/19/05, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I tried to open the PowerPoint version in PowerPoint 2003 SP2, it immediately had an error. snip/ I know. Distilled to PDF below: http://people.apache.org/~rahul/commons/StephenColebourne_JakartaCommonsJP05.pdf Stephen - Can you host

Re: [scxml] Release schedule?

2005-12-20 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there a proposed release date for v1.0 for the scxml stuff? snip/ Thanks for the nudge :-) An hour or so ago, I added a brief roadmap to a Commons SCXML 1.0.0 release on the Apache wiki. That is here:

Re: [feedparser] FeedParser closed?

2005-12-20 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/19/05, 中西 俊光 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sir. I noticed, commons-feedparser is hidden by http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/index.html. but, http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/feedparser/ is available. snip/ That just means no one cared to submit a feedparser description for the

[all] combo/ and docs/ directories

2005-12-20 Thread Rahul Akolkar
I lack the background for a couple of directories under commons proper in SVN, but it will be nice to have that :-) These are not in the externals for trunks-proper either. * combo/ Was this concept ever put in motion? (committer list shows Craig and Hen) * docs/ Much of the stuff under docs/

Re: [all] combo/ and docs/ directories

2005-12-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/20/05, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I lack the background for a couple of directories under commons proper in SVN, but it will be nice to have that :-) These are not in the externals for trunks-proper either

Re: [feedparser] Going once, going twice...

2005-12-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/21/05, Andrea Alberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am willing to start contributing to some project at the jakarta-commons and this could be a good possibility. I have java experience but no experience as a developer on RSS (but I think this is not a big problem). snip/ Thanks a lot

Re: [feedparser] Going once, going twice...

2005-12-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/21/05, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I also said on the PMC list, I am not particularly interested in development on feedparser, though I am willing to apply patches (if they are complete with testcases). snip/ Thanks for stepping forward Martin, I have no background

Re: [feedparser] Going once, going twice...

2005-12-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/21/05, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Yeah I know... Was just assuming dormant mode already for my offer, snap/ OK, I did miss that critical point earlier :-) On 12/21/05, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not about finding a release manager, but

[PROPOSAL] Move SCXML to Commons Proper

2005-12-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
As Robert has indicated before [1], it seems appropriate that sandbox graduation proposals surface on the dev list before any formal VOTE thread. I'd like to propose moving SCXML to Commons Proper. Various data points that motivate me -- in no particular order -- are: * Commons SCXML is being

Re: [PROPOSAL] Move SCXML to Commons Proper

2005-12-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/21/05, Dion Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many active developers are there for SCXML? snip/ I believe you mean Commons committers? I have done most of the development since Commons SCXML was created. Other Commons committers who have expressed interest in participating (in the

Re: [vfs][REVOTE] release version 1.0

2005-12-22 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/19/05, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one else? snip/ Hi Mario - Three source files in [vfs] depend on [compress], which is a sandbox component. I am not sure what Commons policy is about releasing components with dependencies on unreleased components. Is this OK? -Rahul

Re: [PROPOSAL] Move SCXML to Commons Proper

2005-12-22 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/23/05, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/21/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ * Martin Cooper (see Project team page, played a key role in the creation of the SCXML component) Well, I suggested that it might make a good Commons component - and I still think

Re: [PROPOSAL] Move SCXML to Commons Proper

2005-12-23 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/23/05, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a look around SCXML 1 or 2 months ago and liked the idea of it, although I don't currently have a use for it. It is/was my intention to get more familiar with the code in the new year and help out where I can - having said that I'm

Re: [VOTE] Demote feedparser to sandbox/dormant

2005-12-29 Thread Rahul Akolkar
+1 On 12/27/05, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like we do not have sufficient committer support to move [feedparser] to a release at this time. We should therefore move this component to sandbox/dormant. Votes, please. The vote will close in 72 hours. Here is my +1

[all][csv][m2] trunks-sandbox

2005-12-29 Thread Rahul Akolkar
trunks-sandbox [1] now looks a bit odd to me. Hen - Did you mean to put csv under trunks-sandbox? Brett - Did you mean to put the m2 (site) stuff under trunks-sandbox? Neither follows the branches, tags, trunk directory organization (commons-build does that as well). Thanks for getting both of

Re: [all][csv][m2] trunks-sandbox

2005-12-29 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/29/05, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rahul Akolkar wrote: snip/ Brett - Did you mean to put the m2 (site) stuff under trunks-sandbox? yes, at least for now. It's a little more expedient for getting things up and going and its not in anyone's way - but we can move it later. My

Re: [WIKI] Who to talk to about my wiki account

2005-12-30 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 12/30/05, Mark Diggory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to get around the wiki to fix a typo and am unable to get my password info mailed to me (it just shows blank). Could someone direct me to who to consult for this info? snip/ Mark - FWIW, I had my info emailed to me without a

[VOTE] Move combo to dormant

2006-01-02 Thread Rahul Akolkar
Based on a recent discussion [1], the contents of the combo directory [2] -- combo probably doesn't qualify as a component -- belong in dormant, rather than proper. Lets move combo to dormant. This vote will remain open for atleast 72 hours.

Re: [all] Moving a component to dormant

2006-01-02 Thread Rahul Akolkar
I'd insert step 2.5 below ... On 1/1/06, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate it if some more svn-knowledgable folks could verify the following sequence of steps to move a component - in this case [feedparser] to dormant. I want to do this with minimal noise, but obviously

Re: [all] Moving a component to dormant

2006-01-02 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/2/06, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go for it, Rahuland THANKS! snip/ Bah, no problem, will wait to see if there is consensus on combo first. Doc-ing process somewhere - probably Wiki at first would be great. snap/ Yup, will do. We have this page already for one specific

Re: [VOTE] Move combo to dormant

2006-01-06 Thread Rahul Akolkar
+1 -Rahul On 1/2/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on a recent discussion [1], the contents of the combo directory [2] -- combo probably doesn't qualify as a component -- belong in dormant, rather than proper. Lets move combo to dormant. This vote will remain open for atleast

[RESULT][VOTE] Move combo to dormant

2006-01-06 Thread Rahul Akolkar
This vote has passed. 8 +1 (PMC: martinc, craigmcc, psteitz, mvdb, brett, bayard; Committers: joehni, rahul) No other votes. I'll move [1] combo (as well as feedparser) to dormant by the end of my day. -Rahul [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MovingComponents On 1/2/06, Rahul

[JEXL] Adding myself to JEXL component

2006-01-09 Thread Rahul Akolkar
JEXL developers - Any objections to me adding myself to the JEXL component? I will be starting small -- fixing typos and broken/obsolete links and republishing the website etc. Over time, I'm looking at adding to the JexlContexts and JexlExprResolvers. For example, some ideas include: * A

Re: [JEXL] Adding myself to JEXL component

2006-01-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/9/06, Dion Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good to me! +1 snip/ Cool. I'll give this thread the rest of the week before moving forward. -Rahul On 1/10/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JEXL developers - Any objections to me adding myself to the JEXL component

[VOTE] Promote SCXML to Proper

2006-01-12 Thread Rahul Akolkar
It is time for a promotion vote for Commons SCXML [1], whose initial project proposal is archived here [2]. A proposal for the promotion of this component that contained a release plan [3], was posted about 3 weeks ago, and that thread is archived here (amongst other places):

Re: [id] TODOs for 1.0?

2006-01-12 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/12/06, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ - Jörg BTW: How do you search the archives for [id]? All engines drop the square brackets and the hit list gets worthless ... snap/ Seems to vary per mail archives site, this one seems OK:

Re: [VOTE] Promote SCXML to Proper

2006-01-13 Thread Rahul Akolkar
] email when I'm back. -Rahul Mvgr, Martin Rahul Akolkar wrote: It is time for a promotion vote for Commons SCXML [1], whose initial project proposal is archived here [2]. A proposal for the promotion of this component that contained a release plan [3], was posted about 3 weeks ago

Re: [VOTE] Promote SCXML to Proper

2006-01-13 Thread Rahul Akolkar
+1 (for the record) -Rahul On 1/12/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is time for a promotion vote for Commons SCXML [1], whose initial project proposal is archived here [2]. A proposal for the promotion of this component that contained a release plan [3], was posted about 3

[RESULT][VOTE] Promote SCXML to Proper

2006-01-16 Thread Rahul Akolkar
There was a veto against this vote, and hence, this vote has failed. -1 mvdb (PMC, hence veto -- primary reason: lack of support from other Commons' developers) +1 rahul (Commons committer) No other votes. -Rahul On 1/12/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is time for a promotion

[all] Commons SCXML, beyond the first promotion vote

2006-01-16 Thread Rahul Akolkar
Based on Martin's (mvdb) veto against the recent promotion vote for Commons SCXML, it is obvious that lack of Commons' developers' interest (other than mine) for this component bothered some of us. In that light, Tim's interest towards an SCXML release indicated in his recent posts (pending his

[SCXML] Usecases (WAS: [VOTE] Promote SCXML to Proper)

2006-01-16 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/13/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the mean time, if you have browsed through Commons SCXML and have suggestions for improvement, let me know. Careful, that might risk making you a believer though ;-) I'll see if I can free up some time to dig into it, but

[all] The ASF as a W3C member (WAS: [scxml] compliance with SCXML Working Draft)

2006-01-16 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/16/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ ...this brings up another issue, I think it would be beneficial for the ASF to join the W3C, but we're currently not a Member organization. snap/ FWIW, I'd like to see this happen as well. I believe Commons SCXML is an example where we're

[SCXML] SCXMLSerializer and package reorganization (WAS: [scxml] a few observations, issues before release)

2006-01-16 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/14/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ 1. SCXMLSerializer Right now the code to serialize an SCXML object is a Visitor pattern that constructs XML using a series of StringBuffers. The code to read this XML document alrady uses a straightforward set of Digester rules and

[SCXML] Decoupling Execution Context from the SCXML Model (WAS: [scxml] a few observations, issues before release)

2006-01-16 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/14/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ 2. Decouple Execution Context from the SCXML Model Right now, the Context passed into the class that parses the XML and creates the SCXML object is the global execution context. You pass in a JexlContext when you are parsing the SCXML

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Promote SCXML to Proper

2006-01-16 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/17/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add mine to the mix just for the record +0 at this time, I don't anticipate this not making it out of sandbox, but I'd like to help solve the only one committer issue before we promote. snip/ Cool, feel free to add yourself to the project POM

Re: [scxml] a few observations, issues before release

2006-01-16 Thread Rahul Akolkar
The email exceeded the maximum length I myself am comfortable with when it comes to list emails, so I've spawned new threads for the two technical topics to keep message size manageable. But a couple of things are discussed here as well. On 1/14/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm

Re: [SCXML] Usecases (WAS: [VOTE] Promote SCXML to Proper)

2006-01-17 Thread Rahul Akolkar
Thanks for sharing your views below with us Joe, hard to beat real applications for driving home a point or two. -Rahul On 1/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A real application... We're very keen to build a solution for a trade workflow and documentation system which does

Re: [all] Commons SCXML, beyond the first promotion vote

2006-01-17 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/17/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tip : make some noise about your component, to get more attention and users Eg write in javalobby or an article on developerworks or something ? snip/ Its all pure signal, no noise ;-) An article is a decent idea, though what is needed

Re: [all] Commons SCXML, beyond the first promotion vote

2006-01-17 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/17/06, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rahul, Rahul Akolkar wrote on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:03 AM: Based on Martin's (mvdb) veto against the recent promotion vote for Commons SCXML, it is obvious that lack of Commons' developers' interest (other than mine

Re: [all] The ASF as a W3C member (WAS: [scxml] compliance with SCXML Working Draft)

2006-01-18 Thread Rahul Akolkar
, though the members only sections interest me, and may possibly be of interest to others as well. I'll ask. -Rahul paul Rahul Akolkar wrote: On 1/16/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ ...this brings up another issue, I think it would be beneficial for the ASF to join the W3C

Re: [scxml] a few observations, issues before release

2006-01-18 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/18/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rahul, my emails are a tad long, eh? Apologies in advance. snip/ Nah, that was a comment about the length after *I* replied to your email, and subsequently found it better to fragment it out into bite size chunks in separate threads. 3. Is

Re: [SCXML] Decoupling Execution Context from the SCXML Model (WAS: [scxml] a few observations, issues before release)

2006-01-18 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/18/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/14/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ 2. Decouple Execution Context from the SCXML Model snip/ Most of your observations are correct. We need effective cloneability

Re: [all] The ASF as a W3C member (WAS: [scxml] compliance with SCXML Working Draft)

2006-01-18 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/18/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remembered there was a discussion about membership of the w3c. A quick search gave me only this though : http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2001/board_minutes_2001_10_17.txt snip/ Cool, looks like this isn't the first

Re: [SCXML] SCXMLSerializer and package reorganization (WAS: [scxml] a few observations, issues before release)

2006-01-18 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/18/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ * We need to reading in arbitrary document fragments (digester has a NodeCreateRule) * Reading and splicing in external documents refered to via src attributes (you've already answered

Re: [all] The ASF as a W3C member (WAS: [scxml] compliance with SCXML Working Draft)

2006-01-18 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/18/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/18/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Cool, looks like this isn't the first time someone thought about this (as I was fully expecting). Need to find the right people at either end to see if we can make any further

Re: [SCXML] SCXMLSerializer and package reorganization (WAS: [scxml] a few observations, issues before release)

2006-01-19 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/19/06, Peter Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to the list snip/ Welcome! and would like to get involved in this project. snap/ We're always looking for help :-) I was wondering if you could tell me where to get more information SCXML other than the website. Are there any

Re: [SCXML] Decoupling Execution Context from the SCXML Model (WAS: [scxml] a few observations, issues before release)

2006-01-19 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/19/06, Tim OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Even if a state is associated with a context it doesn't necessary mean that there needs to be a relationship with an actual context item. I guess this is a case of wellwouldn't it be helpful to be able to participate in that

Re: [Jakarta-commons Wiki] Update of SCXML/SCXMLFaq by TimObrien

2006-01-19 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/14/06, Apache Wiki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on Jakarta-commons Wiki for change notification. The following page has been changed by TimObrien: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/SCXML/SCXMLFaq snip/ Tim -

Re: [logging] improvements to generated documentation

2006-01-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/21/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the site generated by maven could do with some improvements before the release. here's a brief list (but could do with a general review): 1 junit report - this should be replaced by a note explaining that maven cannot run the JCL unit

Re: [logging] improvements to generated documentation

2006-01-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/21/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ 2 javadocs warnings and errors - these need to be eliminated These are already gone. snap/ I see 3 warnings, so does this page: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/logging/javadoc.html I get a clean slate after the related patch

Re: [logging] improvements to generated documentation

2006-01-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/21/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rahul Akolkar wrote: snip/ I see 3 warnings, so does this page: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/logging/javadoc.html I get a clean slate after the related patch here: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=38344 Can

Re: [logging] unable to build logging site

2006-01-21 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/22/06, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to run maven site to build the logging website but cannot get this to work. Using maven 1.0.2, I get failures in the xdoc plugin: output xdoc:jelly-transform: [echo] Generating

Re: svn commit: r371420 - in /jakarta/commons/proper/logging/trunk: build.xml project.xml

2006-01-22 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: rdonkin Date: Sun Jan 22 15:26:41 2006 New Revision: 371420 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=371420view=rev Log: Upgraded version number in preparation for cutting first candidate Modified:

Re: [net] FTPS submission - legal issues

2006-01-22 Thread Rahul Akolkar
Steve - While there are multiple people on this list who are probably well-informed enough to answer the questions below definitively, I'd also ping legal-discuss@ which might have a better demographic for these kind of posts. -Rahul On 1/22/06, Steve Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josejuan

[scxml] Packages and branching

2006-01-22 Thread Rahul Akolkar
Re-org'ed a bit of the Commons SCXML repository over the weekend based on some discussion on this list. The result is here: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/scxml/apidocs/ Any comments about further improvements to the source code layout or better class names etc. are welcome. I plan to

Re: [validator] New routines package and plans

2006-01-22 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/22/06, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Commons validator serves two functions: 1) To provide validation routines 2) To provide a mini validation framework I'd like to more clearly separate out these two aspects, so as a first step in this process I have created a new routines

Re: [logging] please check release candidate 1

2006-01-22 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/22/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've uploaded RC1 to http://people.apache.org/~rdonkin/commons-logging/. please check and test the release candidate and report any mistakes or problems. you'll probably notice that the jars are numbered 1.1 (not 1.1RC1 as is more

Re: [validator] New routines package and plans

2006-01-22 Thread Rahul Akolkar
I ;-) But 1.4 may be too high for validator, which is why I asked the question. -Rahul David --- Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/22/06, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ The next stage would be to move other validators (i.e. credit card, ISBN, Email

Re: [logging] please check release candidate 1

2006-01-23 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/23/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Folks - Sincere apologies if this seems to be in the way of anyone doing the real work. There are jars out there marked 1.1, and I'm not comfortable with this. I'm aware of the httpd/struts/tomcat process, but we need

Re: svn commit: r371566 - in /jakarta/commons/proper: attributes/trunk/ beanutils/trunk/ betwixt/trunk/ chain/trunk/ cli/trunk/ codec/trunk/ collections/trunk/ configuration/trunk/ daemon/trunk/ dbcp/

2006-01-23 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: bayard Date: Mon Jan 23 08:12:55 2006 New Revision: 371566 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=371566view=rev Log: Adding doap files for each component for the projects.apache.org site snip/ Lets do the sandbox projects

Re: [net] JSSE classes in FTPS WAS Re: [net] FTPS submission - legal issues

2006-01-23 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/23/06, Steve Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory Winston wrote: Ive come across the com.sun.* issue before. They are part of the JVM, just not officially documented for public use. Usually, they are convenience classes written by Sun programmes who develop the JDK. AFAIK, Sun says

Re: doap maven project descriptor [was Re: svn commit: r371566]

2006-01-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/24/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On general @ jakarta Henri mentioned that the BCEL version was generated from the project.xml. I assume he did that with these doap files. I hope that Henri didn't mean generated by hand from the project.xml. It should be pretty easy

Re: Which Maven / xdoc-plugin version to build component site?

2006-01-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/24/06, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, which version of Maven and the xdoc-plugin is necessary to build the site of a component? Building for commons-id, I just get: == % === xdoc:jelly-transform: [echo] Generating

[wiki] Proposed changes

2006-01-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
I'm proposing to move some content around on the Commons wiki. Motivating factors are: * Discourage amorphous growth on one or two pages * Distribute content over already existing pages (some of which are mostly abandoned) * Reduce the number of orphaned pages, aim for better wiki navigation

Re: Which Maven / xdoc-plugin version to build component site?

2006-01-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/24/06, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 20:42 -0500, Rahul Akolkar wrote: On 1/24/06, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ xdoc-plugin is 1.8 snap/ Try 1.9.2. Some folks have begun adding a specific version dependency to the POM (marked site

Re: [proxy] Nightly Builds...

2006-01-28 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 1/28/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, The nightly source code build distributions for Proxy include its dependencies. I am not sure, but I don't think we're supposed to do that, are we? snip/ While I'm unaware of the specifics of [proxy] (is there any particular reason for

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