On 10/06/2010 05:29 AM, Alex Fisher wrote:
Secondly, Libre Office!?
You might not understand the meaning.
I do, both in the OSS sense *and* in the sense conveyed by the original
tongue...
You might not know how to pronounce it.
I probably pronounce it better than you do.
I speak
Hi all,
On 2010-10-07, at 09:10 , Alex Fisher wrote:
My personal concern is that this move has sounded the death knell for OO.o.
IMO, it is the end of any real chance we had of seriously reducing the market
share of Microsoft Office.
Nope.
-louis
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts
louis.suarez-po...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi all,
On 2010-10-07, at 09:10 , Alex Fisher wrote:
My personal concern is that this move has sounded the death knell for
OO.o.
IMO, it is the end of any real chance we had of seriously reducing the
Dear all,
I am really wondering what this verbal crusade against Oracle and its employees
is all about? This all reminds me too much of Middle Ages campaigns. Is that
what you call social responsibility and soft skills?
Here is maybe an appropriate quote:
Stop telling how good you are. Be
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Andreas Bartel andreas.bar...@oracle.comwrote:
Dear all,
I am really wondering what this verbal crusade against Oracle and its
employees is all about? This all reminds me too much of Middle Ages
campaigns. Is that what you call social responsibility and soft
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Andreas Bartel
andreas.bar...@oracle.comwrote:
Dear all,
I am really wondering what this verbal crusade against Oracle and its
employees is all about? This all reminds me too much of
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:38:44 +0200
Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org wrote:
The feedback we have received so far from the Community (again,
the Community we are talking about) has been either very positive,
and at worst, let's see. The only ones talking about two
communities, about
On 10/06/2010 05:29 AM, Alex Fisher wrote:
Secondly, Libre Office!?
You might not understand the meaning.
You might not know how to pronounce it.
But both of those are solvable issues.
Branding is a black art.
When a new brand is created, most of the money spent on naming it, goes
to
Hi Drew,
Drew Jensen schreef:
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle
in the project has been, or was going to be, a larger
Hi Drew,
Drew Jensen schreef:
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle
in the project has been, or was going to be, a larger
It's OK.
Never mind.
Tina
2010/10/5 Simon Brouwer simon.o...@xs4all.nl
Hi Drew,
Drew Jensen schreef:
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 23:19:56 +0200
Charles-H. Schulz charles-h.sch...@laposte.net wrote:
No. We're not NeoOffice, Lotus or Oracle Open Office: we are
OpenOffice.org ...
No, you selfproclaimed are TDF/LO in the first place and OpenOffice.org
only if it suits you. If you move your contributions
Hi Florian,
I'd like to join you in sharing thoughts :-) By the way, to steal
Charle's thunder, I am neither mad nor do I hate anyone. I am still
doing my job as before and I am pretty much confident that I will
continue improving the UX of OpenOffice.org in the
Am Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:05:19 +0200
schrieb Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org:
If you move your contributions somewhere else it supports your
position there, but not in this project anymore.
Your definition of this project is kinda arbitrary, and definitely
does not match mine.
Hi Simon,
Simon Brouwer wrote (05-10-10 09:33)
Drew Jensen schreef:
And just to be clear - why is it that you equate what is happening with
going down the drain, is it only viable, your contribution if their is
a corporate affiliation?
I am not equating that, but I am concerned that a
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Bartel wrote (05-10-10 13:02)
[...]
I am just thinking how ironic it seems, at least for me, that the
company that is paying money for the infrastructure you all use in this
very moment is being bashed in a way that makes all of us look very
pathetic.
That might possible
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Bartel wrote on 2010-10-05 13.02:
I am just thinking how ironic it seems, at least for me, that the
company that is paying money for the infrastructure you all use in this
very moment is being bashed in a way that makes all of us look very
pathetic.
we're using the
Hi all. Pardon the top post, but for what I have to say, it's the best way to
go.
As things stand, I cannot support this move. From where I sit there are
several things that make me extremely wary.
The first (and major) sticking point is the name of the putative foundation.
The Document
for the 10th anniversary - request for
approval
Hi Bernhard,
Am 02.10.2010 00:55, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
Hi all,
if I counted correctly, there have been 9 clear +1 votes and 4 mainly
positive reactions with some questions / reservation.
In my eyes this qualifies the logo to be called
Hi Bernhard,
Am 02.10.2010 00:55, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
Hi all,
if I counted correctly, there have been 9 clear +1 votes and 4 mainly
positive reactions with some questions / reservation.
In my eyes this qualifies the logo to be called official.
Bernhard Dippold schrieb:
Based on a
Subject: Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for
approval
Hi Bernhard,
Am 02.10.2010 00:55, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
Hi all,
if I counted correctly, there have been 9 clear +1 votes and 4 mainly
positive reactions with some questions / reservation.
In my eyes
Hi,
huh ? I don't understand how this logo can be considered as balanced,
The DocumentFoundation has it's own product, and this is not
OpenOffice.org, (/me is thinking of a similar campaign for say,
Macs, prepared for the future by the independent and consumer driven
Bung company
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 12:08 -0300, luiz wrote:
Hi,
huh ? I don't understand how this logo can be considered as balanced,
The DocumentFoundation has it's own product, and this is not
OpenOffice.org, (/me is thinking of a similar campaign for say,
Macs, prepared for the future by
Dear Ian,
Am 04.10.2010 17:55, schrieb Ian:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 12:08 -0300, luiz wrote:
Hi,
huh ? I don't understand how this logo can be considered as balanced,
The DocumentFoundation has it's own product, and this is not
hi,
Oracle knows how to threaten people covertly, not publicly takes his
actions behind the scenes. It is a coward! Go to OOcon to talk about
motorcycle trips, while the whole world expected a strong position on
the destination of the product she bought.
Oracle purchased a product, not
Hi Luiz,
I would highly appreciate a different style of communication. This
is a public list and we certainly do not want to promote verbal
assaults, who ever you have been addressing in your previous
statement.
Thanks a lot!
Andreas
Am
Andreas, Luiz,
Let's take a step back. Obviously verbal assault does not help and
should not be tolerated. So let's breathe a bit and calm down.
Andreas, whatever your views are on what happened, please understand
that we, the people of the Document Foundation, are OpenOffice.org just
as much as
What I wanted to clarify is that it would be unwise to prohibit
discussions on the OOo lists about TDF. It would be unwise and you
would give the most blatant illustration that OOo is not a true
project, and simply a product. Both of us know that's not the right way
to work this out.
nobody
Am 04.10.2010 19:10, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
Andreas, Luiz,
Let's take a step back. Obviously verbal assault does not help and
should not be tolerated. So let's breathe a bit and calm down.
Andreas, whatever your views are on what happened, please understand
that we, the people of the
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive dialog
open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives.
What are the different objectives of the two projects in your view
Martin?
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On 04/10/2010 18:54, Ian wrote:
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Do you really want a receipt notification from everyone on this list,
Ian? Methinks your signature needs a tweak. ;-)
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On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive dialog
open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives.
What are the different objectives of the two
Drew,
Am 04.10.2010 20:19, schrieb Drew Jensen:
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive
dialog
open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives.
Hi Martin,
Le 4 oct. 10 à 20:37, Martin Hollmichel a écrit :
If Oracle no longer feels that it's objectives are in alignment
with those of the community at large, and therefore no longer
willing to sponsor the OpenOffice.org Community, then I believe it
best to make that statement
Hi Charles,
please let me offer a personal opinion to the topic ...
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:10:34 +0200
Charles-H. Schulz charles-h.sch...@laposte.net wrote:
What I wanted to clarify is that it would be unwise to prohibit
discussions on the OOo lists about TDF. It would be unwise and you
would
Hi Drew,
Op 4-10-2010 20:19, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive
dialog
open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives.
On 10/04/2010 03:08 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Hi Drew,
Op 4-10-2010 20:19, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive
dialog
open and trying to find
Hello Martin,
Le 4 oct. 2010 à 19:45, Martin Hollmichel a écrit :
Am 04.10.2010 19:10, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
Andreas, Luiz,
Let's take a step back. Obviously verbal assault does not help and
should not be tolerated. So let's breathe a bit and calm down.
Andreas, whatever your
Bjoern,
Le 4 oct. 2010 à 20:56, Bjoern michaelsen a écrit :
Hi Charles,
please let me offer a personal opinion to the topic ...
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:10:34 +0200
Charles-H. Schulz charles-h.sch...@laposte.net wrote:
What I wanted to clarify is that it would be unwise to prohibit
Hi Drew,
Op 4-10-2010 22:29, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 03:08 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Hi Drew,
Op 4-10-2010 20:19, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 23:19 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Think about this fact: People who have been working with you guys for
10 years or who generally have contributed their best days, their
leisure time, their jobs, to build OOo with you, well, these people,
the whole community, is
On 10/04/2010 05:39 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Apparently it's easy to forget that it has also continuously been
putting in much of the effort baking it, and that it had provided the
cake in the first place.
Please believe me when I say that it is not nearly as easy as it may
seem from
Op 5-10-2010 0:40, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 05:39 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Apparently it's easy to forget that it has also continuously been
putting in much of the effort baking it, and that it had provided the
cake in the first place.
Please believe me when I say that it is
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle
in the project has been, or was going to be, a larger obstacle to the
continued
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle
in the project has been, or was going to be, a larger obstacle to the
continued
Hi Simon,
Simon Brouwer wrote (04-10-10 23:39)
Apparently it's easy to forget that it has also continuously been
putting in much of the effort baking it, and that it had provided the
cake in the first place.
IMO the arrangement was definitely not ideal but also not particularly
unfair.
Simon Brouwer wrote (05-10-10 05:03)
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle in
the project has been, or was going to be, a
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Bernhard Dippold
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
Hi all,
if I counted correctly, there have been 9 clear +1 votes and 4 mainly
positive reactions with some questions / reservation.
In my eyes this qualifies the logo to be called official.
Bernhard Dippold
Hi Danishka, all
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Bernhard Dippold
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
[...]
Due to the present situation in our community with the new Document
Foundation creating a legal community driven entity able to protect our
community's rights and broadening
Hi Bernhard, all,
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Hi all,
if I counted correctly, there have been 9 clear +1 votes and 4 mainly
positive reactions with some questions / reservation.
In my eyes this qualifies the logo to be called official.
Bernhard Dippold schrieb:
Based on a design by Miguel Boto, a new member of the Art Project, I
created
Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Are you interested in a localized version of the badge? Just translate
the text and I'll add it to the localized versions of the logo I already
created:
Italiano
10° Anniversario
Thanks, Italo
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On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.comwrote:
Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Are you interested in a localized version of the badge? Just translate
the text and I'll add it to the localized versions of the logo I already
created:
Italiano
10° Anniversario
Alexandro Colorado schrieb:
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Italo Vignoliitalo.vign...@gmail.comwrote:
Bernhard Dippold wrote:
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