Hi Martin,
ok, well that's a decision we have to accept. I have thought about
your technical input though and will make sure we keep your concerns
in mind for our javascript-policy into the future.
regards,
Martin
On 1/19/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/11/06, Martin
Martin Cooper schrieb:
I still have some concerns about the MyFaces project, particularly the
ability to incubate a new project effectively. (I'm thinking here of the
Tobago effort, which still appears to be largely separate from the
remainder of MyFaces, despite being technically almost
I am willing to help out wherever I can, even being a mentor if that is possible (with me not being
a member of the ASF)
Mvgr,
Martin
Werner Punz wrote:
Martin Cooper schrieb:
I still have some concerns about the MyFaces project, particularly the
ability to incubate a new project
I remember to have seen somewhere that mentors need to be members -
there hasn't been any clarification on your mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so far, though ;)
regards,
Martin
On 1/19/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am willing to help out wherever I can, even being a mentor if
Thanx for the info Ted..
I clearly don't fit in the description too well (except for not mentoring any
other project :)
Mvgr,
Martin
Ted Husted wrote:
A podling does need at least one Mentor, and the Mentors do need to be
ASF Members.
Ideally, the Mentor should be actively involved in the
John Fallows wrote:
On 1/10/06, *Martin Marinschek* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You might give it out to Jack ;)
Ha ha! My 6 month old son, Jack, would undoubtedly love to bash on the
keyboard as we put together this proposal. :-)
In a year or so he will be
As for the proposal - I think I sent out the wrong sample link to you
guys, here the right one:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal
I think you better start with a text based proposal first, and if it
is good enough, we'll post it to the incubator mailing-list. Then,
we'll add a
It is best to have it up at the wiki when sending in the proposal.. This allows interested people to
add their names. This is just what I understood from the incubator mailinglist though..
Confusing all those Martins :)
Mvgr,
Martin
Martin Marinschek wrote:
As for the proposal - I think I
The problem is that we don't have a name so far - so under which name
to put it ;) ?
regards,
Martin
On 1/11/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is best to have it up at the wiki when sending in the proposal.. This
allows interested people to
add their names. This is just
On 1/11/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is best to have it up at the wiki when sending in the proposal.. This
allows interested
people to add their names. This is just what I understood from the incubator
mailinglist
though..
It's both actually. The wiki should be
On 1/11/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that we don't have a name so far - so under which name
to put it ;) ?
I believe Oracle is OK with us using ADF Faces on an interim basis,
so long as another name is used before the product is released. One of
the action items
Sounds good to me!
Well, I do think that Martin Cooper seems to be a little interested at
least, maybe we can get him aboard?
regards,
Martin
On 1/11/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/11/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that we don't have a name so
Call it ADF Faces for the initial proposal, if that is ok with Oracle and add to the proposal that a
new name should be found. There should be time enough to find a new name before the ball really
gets rolling (meaning when it gets harder to do a name change).
Just ask people for suggestions,
Ted Husted wrote:
On 1/11/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is best to have it up at the wiki when sending in the proposal.. This allows
interested
people to add their names. This is just what I understood from the incubator
mailinglist
though..
It's both actually. The
Here is one :
- Nirosha (a first name used in Sri Lanka, afaik it is a flower)
And the Myfaces logo with a flower in it :)
Why not just common name?`
Leon ?
- MyFaces Leon
Mvgr,
Martin
Martin Marinschek wrote:
The problem is that we don't have a name so far - so under which name
Hi,
@Matthias, I'd rather not have any wrappers - the plan here
is to repackage in line with MyFaces rules. I would, however,
strongly like to keep the high-level concept of separating our
public APIs - like component classes - from private internal
implementation details - like renderers
Hi
I have faxed AND mailed all the documents/agreements to ASF.
since all the paperworks seems to be done, I'll think we have to let
the incubator PMC / list know.
Ted, correct me, if I am wrong.
-Matthias
Hi Adam,
Thanks for the drop!
Since Ted seems to be busy I went ahead and uploaded the file to our
space.
http://myfaces.apache.org/adf/apache-drop.zip
Is the url for those interested and to spare Adam's bandwidth. From
what I understand from the rumor mill though our .mac accts will go
On 1/10/06, Bill Dudney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since Ted seems to be busy I went ahead and uploaded the file to our
space.
http://myfaces.apache.org/adf/apache-drop.zip
If we are going to do this, it would be better to do it from a home
account on people.apache.org. (All of us have one.)
Sorry Ted,
I did not think of the 'sanctioned' idea. I'll move it to my home dir
now.
TTFN,
-bd-
On Jan 10, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Ted Husted wrote:
On 1/10/06, Bill Dudney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since Ted seems to be busy I went ahead and uploaded the file to our
space.
Thanks, Ted. So we'll get our ducks in a row during the rest
of January, and maybe I can also take the time to help orient
some folks around the code base.
-- Adam
On 1/10/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/10/06, Bill Dudney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since Ted seems to be busy I
Thanks Bill!
-- Adam
On 1/10/06, Bill Dudney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://people.apache.org/~bdudney/apache-drop.zip
is the url of interest
the old url should not work any more.
Thanks for pointing that out Ted.
TTFN,
-bd-
On Jan 10, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Bill Dudney wrote:
Sorry
You might give it out to Jack ;)
regards,
Martin
On 1/10/06, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, I'll talk to John today and see how he wants to split this up.
He's down with the flu at the moment, but I'm on vaction for a week
starting this weekend, so it ought to be fun deciding who
I am happy to help with the proposal.
-Omar
Adam Winer wrote:
Sure, I'll talk to John today and see how he wants to split this up.
He's down with the flu at the moment, but I'm on vaction for a week
starting this weekend, so it ought to be fun deciding who can do
it. :)
-- Adam
On 1/10/06,
On 1/10/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You might give it out to Jack ;)Ha ha! My 6 month old son, Jack, would undoubtedly love to bash on the keyboard as we put together this proposal. :-)I've started to recover from the flu a bit now, so I'll be available to help out with this.
On 1/7/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have started looking at the sources,
and my first look was on the accompanying java-script code.
Now, I hope Martin Cooper hasn't had the time to look so far, cause he
wouldn't have been to happy ;)
Issues I've seen so far:
- no
On 1/7/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/7/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have started looking at the sources,
and my first look was on the accompanying java-script code.
Now, I hope Martin Cooper hasn't had the time to look so far, cause he
wouldn't
On 1/9/06, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/7/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have started looking at the sources, and my first look was on the accompanying java-script code.
Now, I hope Martin Cooper hasn't had the time to look so far, cause he wouldn't have been to
Adam Winer wrote:
One
of the items already on our todo list is moving all the functions,
classes, and variables inside a single top level object.
Using a single top-level object is something I've been considering
suggesting for a while.
MyFaces could create a single myfaces object for
On 1/9/06, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam Winer wrote: One of the items already on our todo list is moving all the functions, classes, and variables inside a single top level object.Using a single top-level object is something I've been considering
suggesting for a while.MyFaces
Yep, this is what I meant - though what Martin suggests in the
next message (full namespacing) is a step better once your
codebase gets large enough to make it worthwhile.
The same thing also applies to top-level EL objects where (being
less naive these days :), we put our EL-accessible objects
On 1/7/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John and Adam,
Thanks for all of your hard work getting this ready. I'm looking
forward to studying it. I'm a little busy with the Maven migration
now but I will get to it. Once we are fully migrated to maven I
suspect this will make
My understanding is that of Martin's - that we could fix this
during incubator.
@Matthias, I'd rather not have any wrappers - the plan here
is to repackage in line with MyFaces rules. I would, however,
strongly like to keep the high-level concept of separating our
public APIs - like component
Hello Adam,
Adam Winer schrieb:
I was looking in the maven2 subdirectory - is maven2 smart enough
to search both maven2 and maven1 repositories?
Unfortunately you can't find MyFaces in the org.apache.myfaces dir.
MyFaces releases before the upcoming 1.1.2 have the groupId myfaces.
Regards
On 1/9/06, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/7/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John and Adam, Thanks for all of your hard work getting this ready.I'm looking forward to studying it.I'm a little busy with the Maven migration
now but I will get to it.Once we are fully migrated to
Adam Winer wrote:
@Matthias, I'd rather not have any wrappers - the plan here
is to repackage in line with MyFaces rules. I would, however,
strongly like to keep the high-level concept of separating our
public APIs - like component classes - from private internal
implementation details - like
John, Adam,
do you have any news that your code grant has already been processed?
That will be the next bureaucratic step we'll need to take, I think.
Plus writing up a proposal for the incubator.
Example: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tobago.html
regards,
Martin
On 1/10/06, John
+1
if someone does the work ;)
regards,
Martin
On 1/10/06, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam Winer wrote:
@Matthias, I'd rather not have any wrappers - the plan here
is to repackage in line with MyFaces rules. I would, however,
strongly like to keep the high-level concept of
+1, non-binding. :-)On 1/9/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1if someone does the work ;)regards,MartinOn 1/10/06, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Winer wrote: @Matthias, I'd rather not have any wrappers - the plan here
is to repackage in line with MyFaces rules.I
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 07:30 +0100, Martin Marinschek wrote:
+1
if someone does the work ;)
Ok, I'm willing to do the shuffling around. Won't be immediately, but
sometime in the next few weeks.
First, though, we need to agree on a package structure - which should
also be shared with the ADF
While we are at repackaging,
we should take on another thing John has pointed out before - there is
currently code in all three modules (common, impl, tomahawk) which
shares the same package-name. This is kind of awkward, it would be
better to separate them further up in the package-structure to
Martin,
Not sure exactly what you mean by your code grant
has already been processed - as best I know, all
the Powers That Be over at Oracle have signed all
the pieces of papers that need to be signed. Otherwise,
I'd be very unemployed after that code drop. :) I don't
know if Apache has
Martin, Adam;
I have faxed AND mailed all the documents/agreements to ASF.
-Omar
Adam Winer wrote:
Martin,
Not sure exactly what you mean by your code grant
has already been processed - as best I know, all
the Powers That Be over at Oracle have signed all
the pieces of papers that need to be
On 1/9/06, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam Winer wrote:
@Matthias, I'd rather not have any wrappers - the plan here
is to repackage in line with MyFaces rules. I would, however,
strongly like to keep the high-level concept of separating our
public APIs - like component
-Original Message-
- Our tests use a Mock JSF impl that's just a mockmaker
run over jsf-api - but that's not totally ASF-legit.
We've included that jar in this distribution, but this needs
to be redone the right way.
so... is this jar non-asf compatible? If yes... I guess
Thanks, guys.
downloading at the moment ;)
regards,
Martin
On 1/7/06, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, we've finally gotten there and done it. A public drop
of the ADF Faces source code is now available:
http://homepage.mac.com/awiner/FileSharing.html
Ted Husted will be
Adam, John.
this is a good news. Nice to hear!
This should be (nearly) a fully buildable Maven 2.0 project,
including a separate project of custom Maven 2 plugins (
which are also part of the contribution.) There's an Apache 2.0
LICENSE.txt at the root of the distribution, and to save
I have started looking at the sources,
and my first look was on the accompanying java-script code.
Now, I hope Martin Cooper hasn't had the time to look so far, cause he
wouldn't have been to happy ;)
Issues I've seen so far:
- no namespacing for class-names
- global variables (not even
As for the build - what are the settings I'd need to change to make it
work locally? Or should we wait for a later version to really build
it?
regards,
Martin
On 1/7/06, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, we've finally gotten there and done it. A public drop
of the ADF Faces source
Just looked on some of the renderers, and they look pretty nice to me.
Clean, cool, JSF code.
e.g. oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.renderkit.core.xhtml.TableRenderer
Sean, you know why I've started with this one, right ;) ?
John, Jonas, we'll need to move from package naming oracle to
John, Jonas, we'll need to move from package naming oracle to
org.apache.myfaces, plus we need to add the ASL on every file. I do
think you know that will be necessary, just wanted to reiterate the
fact ;)
Yes, that was the reason, why I *reconnected* to the internet (not at
home on my *own*
Hi!
What we can do is providing *wrapper* for the package stuff. ADF Faces
is software, which is already in use by lot's of people, so... if we
change *all* packages, we bother some users IMO. So we can set the
*old* as deprecated and provide *new* org.apache.** package.
Not sure if it is ok...
No,
don't get me wrong - we don't have to fix this before getting into
incubator, just on the exit. And I'd definitely combine this exit with
a major release, and on a major release you should be able to change
package names, and your users will accept that.
But it's John and Jonas call on how
John and Adam's, sorry ;)
regards,
Martin
On 1/7/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No,
don't get me wrong - we don't have to fix this before getting into
incubator, just on the exit. And I'd definitely combine this exit with
a major release, and on a major release you should
Also really cool is ADFFacesContext and getAgent(), for calculating user-agents.
Nice stuff. Have look at it more detailed next week.
Nice weekend ;)
-Matthias
On 1/7/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John, Jonas, we'll need to move from package naming oracle to
On 1/7/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have started looking at the sources,and my first look was on the accompanying java-script code.Now, I hope Martin Cooper hasn't had the time to look so far, cause hewouldn't have been to happy ;)
*sigh*I'd hoped for better from Oracle. Oh
Hi Martin,
No worries ;) I'm looking forward to help out as well.
Thanks,
Jonas
Martin Marinschek wrote:
John and Adam's, sorry ;)
regards,
Martin
On 1/7/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No,
don't get me wrong - we don't have to fix this before getting into
Adam Winer wrote:
Well, we've finally gotten there and done it. A public drop
of the ADF Faces source code is now available:
http://homepage.mac.com/awiner/FileSharing.html
wohoo this is awesome.
John and Adam,
Thanks for all of your hard work getting this ready. I'm looking
forward to studying it. I'm a little busy with the Maven migration
now but I will get to it. Once we are fully migrated to maven I
suspect this will make things easier for the ADF code to use myfaces
snapshots,
apart from that, the javascript code in the functions themselves
looked pretty decent to me. Any chance we can work together to clean
that up in incubator?
For that, we need an account at i.a.o ;)
Well, we've finally gotten there and done it. A public drop
of the ADF Faces source code is now available:
http://homepage.mac.com/awiner/FileSharing.html
Ted Husted will be copying this over to a people.apache.org
site, at which point I'll take it down from mac.com so
my bandwidth limit
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