[RESULT][VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-19 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! The vote for the new name for the Apache MyFaces Fusion name is finished now. The result: Apache MyFaces Orchestra 10 votes Apache MyFaces Aurora 2 votes Apache MyFaces Connections nothing Please find the voting thread here [1] From now on the new name is Apache MyFaces Orchestra

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-09 Thread Manfred Geiler
[+1] Apache MyFaces Orchestra --Manfred On 3/8/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Based on the previous poll it should be possible now to vote on a new name. Please choose one of the three names (adding new ones can't be honored from now on). The one with the most votes

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-09 Thread Gerald Müllan
[x] Apache MyFaces Aurora cheers, Gerald On 3/8/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Based on the previous poll it should be possible now to vote on a new name. Please choose one of the three names (adding new ones can't be honored from now on). The one with the most votes

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-09 Thread Werner Punz
Mario Ivankovits schrieb: Hi! Based on the previous poll it should be possible now to vote on a new name. Please choose one of the three names (adding new ones can't be honored from now on). The one with the most votes should make it then. [ ] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-09 Thread Grant Smith
+1 Apache MyFaces Orchestra On 3/9/07, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 Apache Myfaces Orchestra Regards, Çagatay Coast Guard -- Grant Smith

[VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Based on the previous poll it should be possible now to vote on a new name. Please choose one of the three names (adding new ones can't be honored from now on). The one with the most votes should make it then. [ ] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache MyFaces Aurora [ ] Apache MyFaces

RE: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KSFD 121\)
[+] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache MyFaces Aurora [ ] Apache MyFaces Connections regards Alexander

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Zubin Wadia
[+] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache MyFaces Aurora [ ] Apache MyFaces Connections Although, it really should be called 'Choreo'... coming from the word 'Choreograph'... oh well, too late! Cheers, Zubin. On 3/8/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [+] Apache MyFaces

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
[x] Apache MyFaces Kleber On 3/8/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [x] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache MyFaces Aurora [ ] Apache MyFaces Connections -- Matthias Wessendorf http://tinyurl.com/fmywh further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail:

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
kidding ;) [x] Apache MyFaces Orchestra -Matthias On 3/8/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [x] Apache MyFaces Kleber On 3/8/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [x] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache MyFaces Aurora [ ] Apache MyFaces Connections --

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Jeff Bischoff
matze, you're such a rebel. ;) Matthias Wessendorf wrote: [x] Apache MyFaces Kleber On 3/8/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [x] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache MyFaces Aurora [ ] Apache MyFaces Connections

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
only because the name is so funny :-) kleber == glue ;) to native speakers glue must also sound funny :-)) On 3/8/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: matze, you're such a rebel. ;) Matthias Wessendorf wrote: [x] Apache MyFaces Kleber On 3/8/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KSFD 121\)
MyFaces Fusion Name only because the name is so funny :-) kleber == glue ;) to native speakers glue must also sound funny :-)) On 3/8/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: matze, you're such a rebel. ;) Matthias Wessendorf wrote: [x] Apache MyFaces Kleber On 3/8/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Martin Marinschek
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:48 PM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name only because the name is so funny :-) kleber == glue ;) to native speakers glue must also sound funny :-)) On 3/8/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: matze, you're such a rebel

Re: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Mario Ivankovits
[X] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache MyFaces Aurora [ ] Apache MyFaces Connections

RE: [VOTE] New Apache MyFaces Fusion Name

2007-03-08 Thread Scheper, Erik-Berndt
[x] Apache MyFaces Orchestra [ ] Apache MyFaces Aurora [ ] Apache MyFaces Connections Regards, Erik-Berndt Disclaimer: This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of Sogeti Nederland B.V. or its Group members. It is intended only for the

MyFaces Fusion Name Poll App

2007-03-03 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Using Apache MyFaces Fusion I've created a new example app: Ballot A tool to help make what I call dynamic votes. BTW: Even if there would have such a tool already there, I wanted to create another example for fusion. It is not meant to replace the voting on the ML, its just to distill those

Re: MyFaces Fusion Name Poll App

2007-03-03 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Btw, this poll will not be anonymous, so that everyone can be sure that I don't manipulate the data. A (to be create) page will allow you to have a look at the vote of each voter. If you don't mind Hi! Using Apache MyFaces Fusion I've created a new example app: Ballot A tool to help make

Re: MyFaces Fusion Name Poll App

2007-03-03 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Another question is, if I should allow you to vote for each name, or if I should force you to cast your vote for e.g. 5 names only. Then changing the available vote selections should be 0 1 2 3 4 5, no? Hi! Using Apache MyFaces Fusion I've created a new example app: Ballot A tool to help make

Re: MyFaces Fusion Name Poll App

2007-03-03 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Top 5 On 3/3/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question is, if I should allow you to vote for each name, or if I should force you to cast your vote for e.g. 5 names only. Then changing the available vote selections should be 0 1 2 3 4 5, no? Hi! Using Apache MyFaces

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-02 Thread Werner Punz
Arash Rajaeeyan schrieb: and may be thats because shale has chosen a different approach? No... Actually I think the fusion conversation system is one level lower than shale dialog. While shale dialog basically follows the approach - configuration of dialog scopes, have something which can keep

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-02 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/2/07, Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arash Rajaeeyan schrieb: and may be thats because shale has chosen a different approach? No... Actually I think the fusion conversation system is one level lower than shale dialog. While shale dialog basically follows the approach -

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-02 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi Craig! One thing I've wondered as I've watched the fusion stuff go by ... in an architecture that is so heavily based on Spring 2 already, why wasn't Spring Web Flow used? Don't know much about SWF, but we had a meeting with Jürgen Höller from interface21 where he helped designing the

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-02 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Well... don't lets discuss that much about why another thing... Perhaps all these existing techniques can get their profit from the other one and can also give valuable feedback to web beans / jsr 299. I am happy that *Fusion* (or Kleber) has no dependency to WebFlow. I would prefer a closer

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-02 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi Craig! That's where I don't understand Fusion enough to comment ... it originally appeared to me that the key value add was allocating the entity manager on the way in (when you created the conversation), and cleaning up afterwards when the conversation ended. Yes, this is one of the things

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-02 Thread Werner Punz
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: Well... don't lets discuss that much about why another thing... Perhaps all these existing techniques can get their profit from the other one and can also give valuable feedback to web beans / jsr 299. I am happy that *Fusion* (or Kleber) has no dependency to

Re: MyFaces Fusion Documentation

2007-03-01 Thread Werner Punz
Mario Ivankovits schrieb: Hi! I've started the documentation by creating two xdoc files in myfaces/fusion/core/src/site, now when I run mvn site from within myfaces/fusion it creates a site, but only a handful of pages in core/target/site and they do not use our stylesheet. Now

RE: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-01 Thread Kito D. Mann
, and info * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter! http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 * -Original Message- From: Thomas Spiegl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:28 PM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming another one

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-01 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi ! Just out of curiosity, why is this part of MyFaces as opposed to Shale. It sounds more like something that belongs there... We developed it under the MyFaces umbrella during the last months, we started with a tag base way until we reached the spring based solution we have now. So, thats

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-01 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Might be significant that two people have asked this question so far :-) On 3/1/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! Just out of curiosity, why is this part of MyFaces as opposed to Shale. It sounds more like something that belongs there... We developed it under the MyFaces

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-03-01 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
and may be thats because shale has chosen a different approach? On 3/2/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! Just out of curiosity, why is this part of MyFaces as opposed to Shale. It sounds more like something that belongs there... We developed it under the MyFaces umbrella

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Werner Punz
Arash Rajaeeyan schrieb: oh yes, also conversation scope of Trinidad does you (or any one one else) have access to JSR 299 info? do you which approach are they going to standardize for conversation/dialog/(or what ever they name it)? Btw. speaking of JSR 299, and conversations, isnt jsr299

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 2/28/07, Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arash Rajaeeyan schrieb: oh yes, also conversation scope of Trinidad does you (or any one one else) have access to JSR 299 info? do you which approach are they going to standardize for conversation/dialog/(or what ever they name it)? Btw.

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
I think the best way is to extend the bean scopes and add some other scope(s) for conversation or dialogs. I think in first proposal they said they want to take best practices of Seam, Shale, ADF, and other JSF based frameworks and find best practices for web development, and put them in web

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Martin Marinschek
I wonder how Kleber sounds for English native speakers? regards, Martin On 2/27/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for Apache MyFaces Kleber On 2/27/07, Arash Rajaeeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose Chasb Chasb means Glue in my native language, we can use other

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
same like glue sounds to me ... On 2/28/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how Kleber sounds for English native speakers? regards, Martin On 2/27/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for Apache MyFaces Kleber On 2/27/07, Arash Rajaeeyan [EMAIL

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hey, I wonder how Kleber sounds for English native speakers? I bet it sounds horrible . I hope so :-) Ciao, Mario

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Martin Marinschek
Well, at times a word means something different in another language, or sounds like a different word? regards, Martin On 2/28/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same like glue sounds to me ... On 2/28/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how Kleber sounds

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1546) Find a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits (JIRA)
above and beyond: Apache MyFaces Alta Apache MyFaces Sublime from everything a little bit Apache MyFaces Platypus something short Apache MyFaces Brevi (latin - in short time) Find a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion - Key: MYFACES

[POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Ok, here we go. This is a poll where I hope that we can sort out the most of the names below (shouldn't be that hard ;-), afterwards I hope we are stripped down to max 4 names where we can start a vote then. Thanks for your time! Just remove the names you don't like, I'll try to sum up

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits
My favorites. * Apache MyFaces Connections * Apache MyFaces Mergence * Apache MyFaces Aurora * Apache MyFaces Concerto * Apache MyFaces ease * Apache MyFaces Snug * Apache MyFaces Custos * Apache MyFaces Simplex * Apache MyFaces Memento * Apache MyFaces Alta * Apache MyFaces

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
my poll: - Kleber - Chasb - Simplex - Platypus On 2/28/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Ok, here we go. This is a poll where I hope that we can sort out the most of the names below (shouldn't be that hard ;-), afterwards I hope we are stripped down to max 4 names

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Kleber On 2/28/07, Arash Rajaeeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my poll: Kleber Chasb Simplex Platypus On 2/28/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Ok, here we go. This is a poll where I hope that we can sort out the most of the names below (shouldn't be that hard ;-),

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Spencer
Mario, Please include a description of Fusion on the wiki page [1]. With out a good understanding on what the product is, it is hard to name it. Paul Spencer [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ApacheMyFacesFusion Mario Ivankovits wrote: Hi! Ok, here we go. This is a poll where I hope

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi Paul! Please include a description of Fusion on the wiki page [1]. With out a good understanding on what the product is, it is hard to name it. Done, I hope I managed to express things sufficient. Ciao, Mario [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ApacheMyFacesFusion

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Spencer
Thanks, Now I know what it is. Paul Spencer Mario Ivankovits wrote: Hi Paul! Please include a description of Fusion on the wiki page [1]. With out a good understanding on what the product is, it is hard to name it. Done, I hope I managed to express things sufficient. Ciao, Mario [1]

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Mike Kienenberger
It probably sounds like Clever. It looks like Keebler (a cookie/cracker manufacturer). On 2/28/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I wonder how Kleber sounds for English native speakers? I bet it sounds horrible . I hope so :-) Ciao, Mario

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Mike Kienenberger schrieb: It probably sounds like Clever. Hmmm I start to like it :-)

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Werner Punz
kleber simplex salida

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Martin Marinschek
Ok, then I like it, and it gets my vote (on the other thread). regards, Martin On 2/28/07, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Kienenberger schrieb: It probably sounds like Clever. Hmmm I start to like it :-) -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting,

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Martin Marinschek
I like a lot of the names, but Apache MyFaces Kleber is doing exactly what the word means in German ;) regards, Martin On 2/28/07, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Now I know what it is. Paul Spencer Mario Ivankovits wrote: Hi Paul! Please include a description of Fusion on

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Jeff Bischoff
Manfred Geiler wrote: Apache MyFaces Orchestra? --Manfred I like the sound of this for a product. I agree though, that something along the lines of glue would be very intuitive for this particular subproject. btw, Kleber will draw blank stares from us english native-speakers. :D

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1546) Find a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Jeff Bischoff (JIRA)
a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion - Key: MYFACES-1546 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1546 Project: MyFaces Core Issue Type: Task Components: General

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Cagatay Civici
Kleber On 2/28/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like a lot of the names, but Apache MyFaces Kleber is doing exactly what the word means in German ;) regards, Martin On 2/28/07, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Now I know what it is. Paul Spencer Mario

Re: [POLL] Sort out of MyFaces Fusion Naming candidates

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Spencer
I know it is not on the list but how about Apache MyFaces Repartee. The definition [1] is similar to what the product does. [1] http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/repartee Paul Spencer Paul Spencer wrote: Thanks, Now I know what it is. Paul Spencer Mario Ivankovits wrote: Hi Paul! Please

RE: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Barbalace, Richard
-Original Message- From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:21 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming It probably sounds like Clever. It looks like Keebler (a cookie/cracker manufacturer). On 2/28/07, Mario

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1546) Find a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Grant Smith (JIRA)
is to collect new names for Apache MyFaces Fusion so far: Apache MyFaces Connections Apache MyFaces Vista Apache MyFaces Salida Apache MyFaces Defender Apache MyFaces Seamless Apache MyFaces Mergence Apache MyFaces Accretion Apache MyFaces Collective Apache MyFaces Aurora Apache MyFaces

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1546) Find a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Grant Smith (JIRA)
StateConverse Apache MyFaces Converse Apache MyFaces Talk Apache MyFaces StateOrchestra Apache MyFaces Music Apache MyFaces Debate Apache MyFaces Fellowship --- I Like this one Find a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion - Key: MYFACES-1546

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Grant Smith
OK, nix my previous vote. I just added the following to the JIRA: The United States of MyFaces (joke) Apache MyFaces States Apache MyFaces StateConverse Apache MyFaces Converse Apache MyFaces Talk Apache MyFaces StateOrchestra Apache MyFaces Music Apache MyFaces Debate Apache MyFaces

Re: [jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1546) Find a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 2/28/07, Grant Smith (JIRA) dev@myfaces.apache.org wrote: Apache MyFaces Fellowship --- I Like this one I think we should save this one for the future merged Tomahawk/Trinidad/Tobago project :-)

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1546) Find a new name for Apache MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Spiegl (JIRA)
for Apache MyFaces Fusion - Key: MYFACES-1546 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1546 Project: MyFaces Core Issue Type: Task Components: General Reporter: Mario

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Spiegl
2 more ... Apache MyFaces Cement Apache MyFaces Plaster On 2/28/07, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, nix my previous vote. I just added the following to the JIRA: The United States of MyFaces (joke) Apache MyFaces States Apache MyFaces StateConverse Apache MyFaces Converse

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Jeff Bischoff
I like em :D Thomas Spiegl wrote: 2 more ... Apache MyFaces Cement Apache MyFaces Plaster On 2/28/07, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, nix my previous vote. I just added the following to the JIRA: The United States of MyFaces (joke) Apache MyFaces States Apache MyFaces

RE: Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread jacob
I would avoid any nouns associated with 'heavy', I think it's contradictory to what Fusion is attempting to do. Stick to: http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/fusion 2 more ... Apache MyFaces Cement Apache MyFaces Plaster On 2/28/07, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, nix my

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Jeff Bischoff
In that case, how about: Apache Myfaces Spider ...as in Spider Webs... obviously, can't use web itself :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would avoid any nouns associated with 'heavy', I think it's contradictory to what Fusion is attempting to do. Stick to:

MyFaces Fusion Documentation

2007-02-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! I've started the documentation by creating two xdoc files in myfaces/fusion/core/src/site, now when I run mvn site from within myfaces/fusion it creates a site, but only a handful of pages in core/target/site and they do not use our stylesheet. Now: *) Shall I put the documentation

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi Jeff! Apache Myfaces Spider I like it, though the first hit in google with software spider results in http://www.spider-software.de/ Ciao, Mario

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Jeff Bischoff
Glad you liked it. Yeah I figured it would be pretty common name, but at least not as bad as Spyder! (taken by both SP ETF fund and major winter sports gear company) Anyway it's a cool name, but probably too common Mario Ivankovits wrote: Hi Jeff! Apache Myfaces Spider I like it, though

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Spiegl
another one ... Apache MyFaces Edge On 2/28/07, Jeff Bischoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you liked it. Yeah I figured it would be pretty common name, but at least not as bad as Spyder! (taken by both SP ETF fund and major winter sports gear company) Anyway it's a cool name, but probably

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Sorry to jump in here again, I have been playing guinea pig the last week for marios work. All I can say is this thing now is highly usable by now. You can put a view controller under conversation scope (not a shale one yet, you will lose the callbacks) and simply work on the stuff now like you

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Martin Marinschek schrieb: @troubles: just like you should never put component-bindings in session-scope. @Solved in fusion...

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
how can I see the result of this work? On 2/27/07, Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to jump in here again, I have been playing guinea pig the last week for marios work. All I can say is this thing now is highly usable by now. You can put a view controller under conversation scope

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Arash Rajaeeyan schrieb: how can I see the result of this work? The demos are not quite there yet (mario is working on them) but you can contact me this evening so that I can drop some example code. ;-)

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Ok here is a first small bite: What we have here is a simple detail conversation the master gets injected so that we can have work done after update but lives in its own conversation what happens the user id is injected so is the master (design decision i chose, you probably could get the

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Additon, so that you can see that there is nothing hidden in the dao and bo layers which hides complexity: dao: public User createUpdateUser(User user) { if(!getEm().contains(user) user.getId() == null) getEm().persist(user); //we flush here because

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Mario Ivankovits
a nice example. You can keep track by checkout fusion from: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/fusion/trunk You'll have to have a myfaces checkout too which requires a mvn install first. Then change into fusion and execute mvn install there too. Change into fusion/examples and start mvn

MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Ok, I'll start the naming question now. My personal favorit for the new library still is MyFaces Fusion, for what I have seen on the Internet and the United States Patent and Trademark Office there is already a oracle product called Oracle Fusion, though, they trademarked the whole phrase

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
So from MY legal point of view MyFaces Fusion is safe as long as we assure that the official name of the library contains the name MyFaces too. quick note, that is should be Apache MyFaces Fusion instead of just MyFaces Fusion What do you think? Ciao, Mario -- Matthias Wessendorf http

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
I personally like fusion Mario Ivankovits schrieb: Hi! Ok, I'll start the naming question now. My personal favorit for the new library still is MyFaces Fusion, for what I have seen on the Internet and the United States Patent and Trademark Office there is already a oracle product called

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi Matthias! So from MY legal point of view MyFaces Fusion is safe as long as we assure that the official name of the library contains the name MyFaces too. quick note, that is should be Apache MyFaces Fusion instead of just MyFaces Fusion Right, thanks for the pointer! Ciao, Mario

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Mario Ivankovits schrieb: Hi Matthias! So from MY legal point of view MyFaces Fusion is safe as long as we assure that the official name of the library contains the name MyFaces too. quick note, that is should be Apache MyFaces Fusion instead of just MyFaces Fusion Right, thanks

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Apache MyFaces Sesams ? :-) On 2/27/07, Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario Ivankovits schrieb: Hi Matthias! So from MY legal point of view MyFaces Fusion is safe as long as we assure that the official name of the library contains the name MyFaces too. quick note, that is should

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: Apache MyFaces Sesams ? :-) Apache Vista :-D

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Werner Punz schrieb: Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: Apache MyFaces Sesams ? :-) Apache Vista :-D Now a serious one Apache MyFaces Salida

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Now a serious one Apache MyFaces Salida I like the spanish style - one more: Apache MyFaces Defender In Spanish its something like to hold/to know etc Even in English we can argue we defend against detached objects ;-) Ciao, Mario

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Now a serious one Apache MyFaces Salida I like that one -- Matthias Wessendorf http://tinyurl.com/fmywh further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Werner, Why not add this an example app to the fusion project? On 2/27/07, Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arash Rajaeeyan schrieb: how can I see the result of this work? The demos are not quite there yet (mario is working on them) but you can contact me this evening so that I can drop

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Mike Kienenberger schrieb: Werner, Why not add this an example app to the fusion project? Problem is i do not know the code rights of the current code I do. I have to clear that up first. But what I am currently doing is following. I code my app which is a bigger than the usual example

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Ah, Ok. I thought you were simply playing around with the fusion framework, not trying to use it for real work :-) On 2/27/07, Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Kienenberger schrieb: Werner, Why not add this an example app to the fusion project? Problem is i do not know the code

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
on an example showing the same patterns. It took some time to setup the examples framework, though, yesterday I managed to bring it up and can start now to implement a nice example. You can keep track by checkout fusion from: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/fusion/trunk You'll have to have

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Werner Punz
Mike Kienenberger schrieb: Ah, Ok. I thought you were simply playing around with the fusion framework, not trying to use it for real work :-) Actually no it is a production project, it was kindof risky, the schedule for the project is very tight, I opted for fusion because it saves me a lot

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Grant Smith
+ 1: Apache MyFaces Fusion - 2 : Apache MyFaces Defender (awful!) +0 : Apache MyFaces Salida (e...) -- Grant Smith

Re: MyFaces Fusion

2007-02-27 Thread Mario Ivankovits
I thought you were simply playing around with the fusion framework, not trying to use it for real work :-) He is really enthusiastic and an adventurer ;-) Kudos to Werner! Ciao, Mario

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Mike Kienenberger
There's no way that Fusion as a web development framework is going to pass legal. It doesn't matter if you call it Fusion, MyFaces Fusion, or Apache Myfaces Fusion. Even if it could (and it can't), why would you want to develop product that would be confused with any of the other fusion web

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1: Apache MyFaces Fusion -0.9 : Apache MyFaces Salida -1 : Apache MyFaces Defender -1 : Apache MyFaces Sesams On 2/27/07, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + 1: Apache MyFaces Fusion - 2 : Apache MyFaces Defender (awful!) +0 : Apache MyFaces Salida (e...) -- Grant Smith

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Manfred Geiler
Ok, after reading Mikes mail and looking at these sites http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/ http://www.netobjects.com/index.html I must revert my previous vote: -1: Apache MyFaces Fusion -1 : Apache MyFaces Defender -0.9 : Apache MyFaces Salida -0.9 : Apache MyFaces Sesams What about

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On 2/27/07, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, after reading Mikes mail and looking at these sites http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/ http://www.netobjects.com/index.html I must revert my previous vote: there is also a Fusion from Oracle. -1: Apache MyFaces Fusion -1

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi Manfred! What about Apache MyFaces Seamless ?! I don't think its a good idea to use anything which sounds like Seam. Seam aims to be much more than I have in mind for Fusion now. See, they integrated stuff to create PDFs lately. I don't wont to suggest - by using nearly the same name - that

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Dennis Byrne
What about Apache MyFaces Seamless ?! +1 --Manfred On 2/27/07, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1: Apache MyFaces Fusion -0.9 : Apache MyFaces Salida -1 : Apache MyFaces Defender -1 : Apache MyFaces Sesams On 2/27/07, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + 1: Apache

Re: MyFaces Fusion Naming

2007-02-27 Thread Manfred Geiler
: there is also a Fusion from Oracle. -1: Apache MyFaces Fusion -1 : Apache MyFaces Defender -0.9 : Apache MyFaces Salida -0.9 : Apache MyFaces Sesams What about Apache MyFaces Seamless ?! haha ! my Sesams was just a fun proposal. I don't think we (the ASF) should take names like

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