RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-02-08 Thread Eirik Bakke
ubject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Dear Eirik Thanks for your time, how about HKT sat 9am please? Thanks From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk , Mobile : 96554595) From: Eirik Bakke Sent: Tuesday, February

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-02-08 Thread Eirik Bakke
vious time.) Thanks again! -- Eirik From: Peter Cheung Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:37 AM To: Eirik Bakke ; Venus Chung Cc: Apache NetBeans ; Peter Cheung ; Arafat BOUCHAFRA Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hi Can we do sat morning? Thanks Peter (System Archite

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-02-08 Thread Eirik Bakke
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 4:19 AM To: Eirik Bakke ; Venus Chung Cc: Apache NetBeans ; Peter Cheung ; Arafat BOUCHAFRA Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hey Eirik and All Please check the attachment. Is the designs good? Sorry i was so busy. Have a sync up me

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-02-08 Thread Arafat BOUCHAFRA
, > Mobile : 96554595) > -- > *From:* Eirik Bakke > *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:48 AM > *To:* Venus Chung > *Cc:* Peter Cheung ; Apache NetBeans < > dev@netbeans.apache.org>; Peter Cheung ; Arafat > BOUCHAFRA > *Subject:* RE: Ne

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-19 Thread Eirik Bakke
; Apache NetBeans ; Peter Cheung Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted No worries, thanks for the update! Le mer. 19 janv. 2022 à 14:35, Eirik Bakke mailto:eba...@ultorg.com>> a écrit : Sorry about that--thank you for your help with this project! Happy to answe

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-19 Thread Arafat BOUCHAFRA
enus Chung > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2022 1:34 AM > *To:* Eirik Bakke ; Peter Cheung ; > dev@netbeans.apache.org > *Cc:* Arafat BOUCHAFRA ; Peter Cheung < > mcheun...@hotmail.com> > *Subject:* 回覆: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Dear A

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-19 Thread Eirik Bakke
Cheung ; Venus Chung 主旨: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hi, Peter. Thank you so much for these efforts!! Could we see what the icons look like without Pixel Preview enabled? (View->Pixel Preview in Illustrator) Might you also send the latest version of the Illustrator f

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2022-01-18 Thread Venus Chung
Chung 主旨: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hi, Peter. Thank you so much for these efforts!! Could we see what the icons look like without Pixel Preview enabled? (View->Pixel Preview in Illustrator) Might you also send the latest version of the Illustrator file? I'd

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-18 Thread Peter Cheung
eans.apache.org Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA ; Peter Cheung Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Dear all Please see the last three rows, is the style matched? Thanks >From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk , M

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-18 Thread Eirik Bakke
ng Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:45 AM To: Eirik Bakke ; dev@netbeans.apache.org Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA ; Peter Cheung Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Dear Eirik & All Let's have a wrap-up meeting next week? Thanks >From Peter (System Architect,

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-18 Thread Peter Cheung
Loop in Miss Venus, she is our designer From: Arafat BOUCHAFRA Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:58 PM To: Peter Cheung Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hi Peter, You have done an amazing job. Only, I want to know if the icons are pixelized or not. King regards Le

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-18 Thread Peter Cheung
rg Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA ; Peter Cheung ; Peter Cheung Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted I think I understand your goal, and this thread now has a good summary of pros and cons. Again, this is really up to whoever does the icon drawing work. Myself, I have just contributed the

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-12 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 17:17, Eirik Bakke wrote: > Would you be interested in participating in the actual icon drawing process, > by the way? Or is the use of Adobe Illustrator a deal-breaker for you? My > company could pay for a license. It's a deal breaker in the sense of I wouldn't have a cl

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-12 Thread Eirik Bakke
, 2022 11:18 AM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA ; Peter Cheung ; Peter Cheung Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 15:48, Eirik Bakke wrote: > Sorry, to clarify: The point about the color palette was my own. My argument > is th

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-12 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 15:48, Eirik Bakke wrote: > Sorry, to clarify: The point about the color palette was my own. My argument > is that the existing NetBeans icon style is not very well-suited for > assigning logical colors. In order to designate a meaningful, configurable, > "accent color",

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-12 Thread Eirik Bakke
;s easier to do after-the-fact than up-front (see my earlier explanation for why). -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Neil C Smith Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 10:06 AM To: dev Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, 14:57 Eirik Bakke, wrote: > &g

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-05 Thread Alexius DIAKOGIANNIS
-server.io/0x669822139B6027AC From: Eric Bresie Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:09 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 6:05 AM Eirik Bakke wrote: > My general point is that redrawing the ic

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-02 Thread Eric Bresie
On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 6:05 AM Eirik Bakke wrote: > My general point is that redrawing the icons is a massive task--there are > thousands of unique icons in NetBeans, and many hundreds that are seen > frequently. We really need to keep the process as simple as possible, to > have a chance to get

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-02 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, 14:57 Eirik Bakke, wrote: > > Relying on colour filtering of the rasterized icons for eg. dark themes > makes no sense when we can style the SVG data before rasterization with > semantic information intact. > > The motivation is just that it's less work. Even things like picki

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-02 Thread Eirik Bakke
work. And then we're stuck with maintaining and supporting those classes, like maintaining an API. -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Neil C Smith Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 3:52 PM To: dev Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA ; Peter Cheung ; Peter Cheung Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans,

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-02 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, 14:22 Eirik Bakke, wrote: > > What I mean is I assume you want a limited consistent set of colours > (pallette) across all icons? > > The existing bitmap icons already have a good color scheme that does this > (designed by Leos Tronicek [1]). But it doesn't lend itself well to

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-02 Thread Eirik Bakke
urday, January 1, 2022 6:33 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA ; Peter Cheung ; Peter Cheung Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 14:49, Eirik Bakke wrote: > That's true for the old bitmap icons, but the new SVG icons are drawn witho

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-01 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 14:49, Eirik Bakke wrote: > That's true for the old bitmap icons, but the new SVG icons are drawn without > shadows, specular highlights/gradients, and bevel borders. This should avoid > the depth inversion problem. Yes, they're certainly better, but I'm not sure they enti

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-01 Thread Eirik Bakke
this is actually a nice point of differentiation for NetBeans.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Neil C Smith Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 2:09 PM To: dev Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA ; Peter Cheung ; Peter Cheung Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted On Sat, 1 Jan 20

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-01 Thread Peter Cheung
irik -Original Message- From: Neil C Smith Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:38 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 11:29, Eirik Bakke wrote: > For Dark Mode, one can apply a color filter that inverts the brigh

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-01 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022, 12:05 Eirik Bakke, wrote: > > Yes, I know, it's horrible! > > I thought it looked quite nice :-) > Your linked image looks somewhat better than the dark metal implementation, but value invert is hit and miss - eg. it inverts depth perception. > > > My general point is that r

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-01 Thread Eirik Bakke
: Neil C Smith Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:38 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 11:29, Eirik Bakke wrote: > For Dark Mode, one can apply a color filter that inverts the brightness > without changing the hues.

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-01 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 11:29, Eirik Bakke wrote: > For Dark Mode, one can apply a color filter that inverts the brightness > without changing the hues. Yes, I know, it's horrible! > Other color scheme changes would probably be best to do once a substantial > number of icons have been vectorized

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2022-01-01 Thread Eirik Bakke
21 6:30 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Cc: Peter Cheung ; Peter Cheung ; Arafat BOUCHAFRA Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 at 12:26, Eirik Bakke wrote: > Other topics discussed: > * Arafat proposed more ambitious changes to NetBeans'

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX)

2021-12-31 Thread John Neffenger
On 12/7/21 4:58 AM, Eric Bresie wrote: I know this is a grander, not a short term thing, and a little out of scope here but would transition the UI of Netbeans from Swing to JavaFX based with its own (css) theme paradigm be of value? There is one important difference between Swing and JavaFX

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-31 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 at 12:26, Eirik Bakke wrote: > Other topics discussed: > * Arafat proposed more ambitious changes to NetBeans' look & feel, and we > exchanged ideas. Eirik mentioned the recent discussion thread that ended up > making FlatLAF the default LAF on NetBeans. > * Arafat also menti

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX)

2021-12-31 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 14:29, John Kostaras wrote: > There used to be an article of a lady from South Africa who had managed to > replace the Rich Client Platform's window system with JavaFX, but I can't > locate it anymore. Was that different to the eFX project I mentioned? I remember reading a

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX)

2021-12-31 Thread John Kostaras
There used to be an article of a lady from South Africa who had managed to replace the Rich Client Platform's window system with JavaFX, but I can't locate it anymore. To replace Swing with JavaFX (or HTML/Java UI), one needs to rewrite the Window System, Action System and the Explorer Views and P

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX)

2021-12-31 Thread Mar R
Please don't even mention Electron! It has its pros, I recognize that, but we're talking about an IDE + Java...I can't afford a new GPU :D Anyway switching from Swing to JavaFX would be real cool, sooner or later projects will have to stay update with latest technologies, why have them then? But I

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-31 Thread Mar R
NetBeans project is based on open discussion on the mailing list and > in > > GitHub Pull Requests, rather than in meetings or private sub-groups.) > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eirik Bakke > > Sent: Saturday, Decemb

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-28 Thread Arafat BOUCHAFRA
inal Message----- > From: Eirik Bakke > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 2:24 PM > To: Peter Cheung ; Peter Cheung > Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > Great! I sent invites to the people already in this thread. > >

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-28 Thread Eirik Bakke
-groups.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Eirik Bakke Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 2:24 PM To: Peter Cheung ; Peter Cheung Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Great! I sent invites to the people already in this thread. Merry Christ

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-25 Thread Peter Cheung
@netbeans.apache.org Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted 10.00 (10am) UTC on Tue December 28 works. For anyone who'd like to join, please respond with your email address in this thread, and I can send you a Zoom meeting invite. -- Eirik From: Peter Cheung Sent: Thursday, Decemb

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-25 Thread Eirik Bakke
Great! I sent invites to the people already in this thread. Merry Christmas! -- Eirik From: Peter Cheung Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 2:21 PM To: Eirik Bakke ; Peter Cheung Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Thanks, accepted your request

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-25 Thread Eirik Bakke
; dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Dear Eirik Sorry late reply. Shall we do next tue 10 UTC ? thanks Thanks From Peter From: Eirik Bakke Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:35 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: RE

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2021-12-24 Thread Jiří Kovalský
, 2021 10:35 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted At the moment, anytime 10.00-22.00 UTC Tuesday or Wednesday would work, for instance. Just let me know which time slot you prefer. -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Peter Cheung Sent

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-23 Thread Arafat BOUCHAFRA
Hi Peter, I'm Arafat from Morocco. I'm working with NetBeans for more than 20 years, and I have strongly worked with swing/java2d to styling my desktop application. A few years, I have looked for some people who wants to change the look and feel if NetBeans, using JavaFX and CSS, but no one wants

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-23 Thread Peter Cheung
Dear Eirik Sorry late reply. Shall we do next tue 10 UTC ? thanks Thanks From Peter From: Eirik Bakke Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:35 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted At the moment, anytime

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-16 Thread Eirik Bakke
rom Peter From: Geertjan Wielenga Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 4:00 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Cc: mcheun...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Great, progress! Yes, a report to this mailing list would be great to keep everyone informed. G

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-14 Thread Peter Cheung
Wielenga Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 4:00 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Cc: mcheun...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Great, progress! Yes, a report to this mailing list would be great to keep everyone informed. Gj On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 07:27, Ei

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX)

2021-12-10 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 at 16:02, Eric Bresie wrote: > Unless anyone wants to work on NetBeans.FX ;-)…I figured as much but wanted > to ask. There was once a project called eFX, that if I remember correctly was a JavaFX version of (parts of) the platform UI? Can't find much info now, but no, not an

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX)

2021-12-07 Thread Eric Bresie
ansitioning" to JavaFX would be akin to deloping an entirely new IDE. Even IntelliJ is all Swing.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Eric Bresie Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:58 AM To: Netbeans Developer List Subject: Re: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX) I k

RE: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX)

2021-12-07 Thread Eirik Bakke
ould be akin to deloping an entirely new IDE. Even IntelliJ is all Swing.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Eric Bresie Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:58 AM To: Netbeans Developer List Subject: Re: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX) I know this is a grander, not a s

Re: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted (JavaFX)

2021-12-07 Thread Eric Bresie
g list afterwards.) > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Peter Cheung mailto:mcheun...@hotmail.com)> > > Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 12:15 PM > > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org (mailto:dev@netbeans.apache.org) > > Subject: Re: New th

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
a summary for the mailing list afterwards.) > > -- Eirik > > -Original Message- > From: Peter Cheung > Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 12:15 PM > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > Dear Eirik > We

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-05 Thread Eirik Bakke
he.org Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hi, Peter. Fantastic! I'm happy to join a chat--it would be good to include anyone else on this list who is interested as well. For actual decision-making, discussions should happen on the email list, so that everyone can foll

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-12-05 Thread Peter Cheung
o the style guide and perhaps pull it out of the JIRA issue and into a separate Confluence page.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Peter Cheung Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 9:18 AM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hi Eirik

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-11-24 Thread Eirik Bakke
rhaps pull it out of the JIRA issue and into a separate Confluence page.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Peter Cheung Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 9:18 AM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hi Eirik We definitely want to hel

Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-11-24 Thread Peter Cheung
l Message- From: Christian Lenz Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:31 AM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: AW: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hey Peter, great to have you on board already. We are discussing to add the Flat LaF as a default theme to NetBeans which is already implemen

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-11-23 Thread Eirik Bakke
: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:31 AM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: AW: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hey Peter, great to have you on board already. We are discussing to add the Flat LaF as a default theme to NetBeans which is already implemented, but we need to switch to

RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-11-23 Thread Eirik Bakke
uesday, November 23, 2021 11:31 AM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: AW: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Hey Peter, great to have you on board already. We are discussing to add the Flat LaF as a default theme to NetBeans which is already implemented, but we need to switch to it. Wha

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2021-11-23 Thread Christian Lenz
:38 An: dev@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted Dear All My name is Peter, from Quantr Limited. I love Netbeans and have been developed few plugins for it. This proves my ambition in Netbeans. https://gitlab.com/quantr/toolchain/netbeans-verilog https

New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

2021-11-22 Thread Peter Cheung
Dear All My name is Peter, from Quantr Limited. I love Netbeans and have been developed few plugins for it. This proves my ambition in Netbeans. https://gitlab.com/quantr/toolchain/netbeans-verilog https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/netbeans-quick-outline https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/MavenRunner h