Re: survey: what version(s) of gradle are available on your systems?

2015-05-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Le 06/05/2015 19:54, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Seems this not get through, forwarding... Again w/o the link, I can't see what else could prevent this message to reach the ML :/ Jacques Le 06/05/2015 17:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Great to see that in the ASF repo, but what about

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6271) build management with maven

2015-05-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6271?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14532165#comment-14532165 ] Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-6271: Another somehow interesting related

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Not a separate instance, just a change in the Python BuildBot script; nothing complicated Jacques Le 07/05/2015 10:12, Pierre Smits a écrit : Wouldn't we need a separate CI instance on J8 to ensure that tests don't fail? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*

Re: survey: what version(s) of gradle are available on your systems?

2015-05-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I was asking about Windows ;) Jacques Le 07/05/2015 09:17, Ejaz Ahmed a écrit : I use gvmtools to install my required version of gradle and it works on any Linux/Unix platform. Regards: Ejaz Ahmed Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 08:50:01 +0200 From: jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com To:

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Michael Brohl
+1 I think it would be strange to do a 1st release of 14.12 without moving from (then non-supported) Java 1.7 to 1.8. Michael ecomify GmbH www.ecomify.de Am 07.05.15 um 09:58 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato: On May 7, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Nicolas Malin
Ok Thanks Scott and Jacques. So Who is against use java 8 and more on trunk ? :) Nicolas Le 07/05/2015 08:46, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Yes (lazy) consensus over vote ;) Jacques Le 07/05/2015 05:02, Scott Gray a écrit : I'm not sure if a vote is necessary, particularly if no one has any

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits
I don't think that it is a question of using or not using J8. It is more about when to move it into trunk, as from that moment on there will be backward compatibility issues. A helpful solution in this respect could be to designate a specific release branch now (e.g. r15 or r16), create the

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Yes (lazy) consensus over vote ;) Jacques Le 07/05/2015 05:02, Scott Gray a écrit : I'm not sure if a vote is necessary, particularly if no one has any objections. Regards Scott On 7 May 2015 07:44, Nicolas Malin nicolas.ma...@nereide.fr wrote: I'm favorable to use java 8. I think it's will

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On May 7, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that it is a question of using or not using J8. It is more about when to move it into trunk, as from that moment on there will be backward compatibility issues. I think we could do it also in the 14.12

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I tend to agree Jacques Le 07/05/2015 09:58, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : On May 7, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that it is a question of using or not using J8. It is more about when to move it into trunk, as from that moment on there will be

RE: survey: what version(s) of gradle are available on your systems?

2015-05-07 Thread Ejaz Ahmed
I use gvmtools to install my required version of gradle and it works on any Linux/Unix platform. Regards: Ejaz Ahmed Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 08:50:01 +0200 From: jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: survey: what version(s) of gradle are available on your

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits
Wouldn't we need a separate CI instance on J8 to ensure that tests don't fail? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Jacopo

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Michael Brohl
Adam, I must admit that it's really hard for me to follow you. If you want people to join the effort you should try to convince them, pick them up where they are, just do some marketing for your ideas. If you have the big picture in your mind, share it with us. And take critical questions

[jira] [Assigned] (OFBIZ-6335) Replacing bsh code with groovy code in PROJECTMGR screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6335?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits reassigned OFBIZ-6335: --- Assignee: Pierre Smits Replacing bsh code with groovy code in PROJECTMGR screens, forms and

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6337) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in EBAY screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6337: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in EBAY screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6337 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6337 Project: OFBiz

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6341) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Product screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6341: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Product screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6341 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6341 Project: OFBiz

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6340) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in ORDER screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6340?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6340: Attachment: OFBIZ-6340-BSH2Groovy-Order.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh code

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6342) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Party screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6342?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6342: Attachment: OFBIZ-6342-BSH2Groovy-Party.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh code

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6343) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in WorkEffort screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6343?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6343: Attachment: OFBIZ-6343-BSH2Groovy-WorkEffort.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6335) Replacing bsh code with groovy code in PROJECTMGR screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6335?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6335: Attachment: OFBIZ-6335-BSH2Groovy-ProjectMgr.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6338) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in EBAYStore screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6338: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in EBAYStore screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6338 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6338 Project: OFBiz

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6338) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in EBAYStore screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6338?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6338: Attachment: OFBIZ-6338-BSH2Groovy-EbayStore.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6339) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in HUMANRES screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6339?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6339: Attachment: OFBIZ-6339-BSH2Groovy-HumanRes.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6340) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in ORDER screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6340: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in ORDER screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6340 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6340 Project: OFBiz

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6343) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in WorkEffort screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6343: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in WorkEffort screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6343 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6343 Project:

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6345) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Webtools screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6345: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Webtools screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6345 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6345 Project: OFBiz

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6345) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Webtools screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6345?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6345: Attachment: OFBIZ-6345-BSH2Groovy-Webtools.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6339) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in HUMANRES screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6339: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in HUMANRES screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6339 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6339 Project: OFBiz

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6344) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Content screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6344?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6344: Attachment: OFBIZ-6344-BSH2Groovy-Content.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6344) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Content screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6344: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Content screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6344 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6344 Project: OFBiz

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-6337) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in EBAY screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6337?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6337: Attachment: OFBIZ-6337-BSH2Groovy-Ebay.patch This patch addresses the issue. Replacing bsh code

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6342) Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Party screens, forms and menus

2015-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits (JIRA)
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6342: --- Summary: Replacing bsh code with groovy Code in Party screens, forms and menus Key: OFBIZ-6342 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6342 Project: OFBiz

Re: svn commit: r1678076 [2/3] - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config: ProductEntityLabels.xml ProductErrorUiLabels.xml

2015-05-07 Thread Nicolas Malin
Maybe it's possible to load only locale define on common.properties nicolas Le 07/05/2015 00:08, Christian Geisert a écrit : Hehe, this has already been discussed when switching to from .properties to .xml See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1442 And I was against this change

Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Julien NICOLAS
Hello All, Since I work on the bootstrap theme in OFBiz, I have many thoughtful, carefully read the ofbiz community exchanges and spoke with some members of the OFBiz community. Today I am convinced that the OFBiz project is a framework that is not intended to be an ERP. Its OOTB user

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Michael Brohl
Hi Julien, thank you for bringing this up! I don't think that this is of no interest in the community, it's just overlaid by the many other topics we are discussing currently. I personally think that all topics are worth to be discussed and elaborated, maybe they have to be prioritised a

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Adam Heath
Not a reply to Jacques, but if an absolutely java-8-only feature is used, be sure to update the regex in ${ofbiz.home}/macros.xml, then the source/target values in common.xml in the same folder. ps: I'm fine with moving towards 1.8. It's not a choice that we can make, actually. On

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
+1 Java 8 works well, is supported and opens a lot of doors for new ways to write clearer code. Ron On 07/05/2015 4:58 AM, Michael Brohl wrote: +1 I think it would be strange to do a 1st release of 14.12 without moving from (then non-supported) Java 1.7 to 1.8. Michael ecomify GmbH

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Adam Heath
On 05/07/2015 05:48 AM, Julien NICOLAS wrote: I see a lot of debate about adding new functionality that allow to improve development, compile, manage sources, merge with another framework, but the debate on the division of project extensions seems not to interest. It seems to me extremely

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Sharan-F
Hi I also think it's great that this topic has been raised (so thanks Julien). I would be really keen to participate in any effort that could simplify and improve the user experience for OFBiz. Our demo is there to show people what OFBiz can do but if it doesn't look very nice or easy to use

Re: survey: what version(s) of gradle are available on your systems?

2015-05-07 Thread Richard Siddall
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/201505.mbox/browser Jacques Le Roux wrote: I was asking about Windows ;) Jacques Le 07/05/2015 09:17, Ejaz Ahmed a écrit : I use gvmtools to install my required version of gradle and it works on any Linux/Unix platform. Regards: Ejaz

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
I agree with Julien's analysis. If I say sub-projects again, Jacques will whack me upside the head but I really think that a restructuring of the way the architecture is presented and developed would provide a number of benefits: - increase community involvement with less work for the current

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On May 7, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Adam Heath doo...@brainfood.com wrote: ... and Jacopo's own graphs have shown ofbiz in decline(namely, the number of commits to the project). I completely disagree with your analysis. Jacopo

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Adam Heath
On 05/07/2015 11:02 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On May 7, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Adam Heath doo...@brainfood.com wrote: ... and Jacopo's own graphs have shown ofbiz in decline(namely, the number of commits to the project). I completely disagree with your analysis. Well, that's a wonderfully

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Christian Geisert
Yes, we must support Java 8, but we absolutely have the choice to still support Java 7 (i.e. no use of Java 8 only features yet) IMHO there should be good reasons to use these Java 8 features (not just because it's cool..) It's not a big deal to update a developer machine to Java 8 (well, my

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Julien NICOLAS
Hi Adam, I'm not talking about how to do it but to answer the question : is the community want to do it ? Is the community want to maintain only a framework and not an ERP ? Split the project in several part. Maven could be a solution, but before choosing a solution, we must be sure that

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Adam Heath
On 05/07/2015 09:42 AM, Julien NICOLAS wrote: Hi Adam, I'm not talking about how to do it but to answer the question : is the community want to do it ? Is the community want to maintain only a framework and not an ERP ? Split the project in several part. Maven could be a solution, but

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Al Byers
Adam, How does your work on refactoring OFBiz fit with your interest in a Moqui PoC? Do you think that with your work there would not be a need to add in Moqui in order to resolve the inadequacies that you find? Are you open to the idea that it will be better to use Moqui in some way and not need

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Christian Geisert
Well call it Standards Office or whatever, the guys who decide which platforms are allowed to use in the company. Java 8 is available since just about a year.. Just the mentioned Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (= Longtime Support, which means support for 5 years) has no Java 8 in the official repositories. Is

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 07/05/2015 12:37 PM, Christian Geisert wrote: Well call it Standards Office or whatever, the guys who decide which platforms are allowed to use in the company. Java 7 will be coming off the list in most companies if it has not already been done. Java 8 is available since just about a