Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Adrian Crum adri...@hlmksw.com wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:53 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:40 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/17/2010 8:37 AM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Adrian Crumadri...@hlmksw.com wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:53 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:40 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adam Heath
The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Also, if my process is wrong, fine, that might be true. But just don't tell me it is wrong. Give me a way to do what I have describe countless times.

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/17/2010 9:09 AM, Adam Heath wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Also, if my process is wrong, fine, that might be true. But just don't tell me it is wrong. Give me a way to do what I have describe

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 9:09 AM, Adam Heath wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Also, if my process is wrong, fine, that might be true. But just don't tell me it is wrong. Give me a way to do what I

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Ean Schuessler
BJ Freeman wrote: if you got that far it should be all four time fields. however I don't see the need even with sync to do this. If you are talking about the entity sync fields then it definitely seems like the lack of a timezone could cause your sync to fail. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/17/2010 9:42 AM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 9:09 AM, Adam Heath wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Also, if my process is wrong, fine, that might be true. But just don't tell me

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adam Heath
Ean Schuessler wrote: BJ Freeman wrote: if you got that far it should be all four time fields. however I don't see the need even with sync to do this. If you are talking about the entity sync fields then it definitely seems like the lack of a timezone could cause your sync to fail. Not an

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Ean Schuessler
Adrian Crum wrote: Actually, this is a bad example - the Staff Meeting temporal expression does not contain a date-time value. A better example would be the recurring jobs that use a Frequency temporal expression. The thing we need to focus on here is the entities that have a

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Ean Schuessler
Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Just because something has been broken for a long time does not mean it is fixed. We have found numerous long-standing problems that simply have never been

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/17/2010 10:10 AM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Just because something has been broken for a long time does not mean it is fixed. We have found numerous

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/17/2010 10:16 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:10 AM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Just because something has been broken for a long time does not mean it is

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:10 AM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Just because something has been broken for a long time does not mean it is fixed. We have found

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-17 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/17/2010 10:23 AM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:10 AM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Just because something has been broken for a long time

StringToTimestamp converter bug with timezone (Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken)

2010-06-17 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:23 AM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:10 AM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the problem. Just because something has been

Re: StringToTimestamp converter bug with timezone (Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken)

2010-06-17 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/17/2010 2:07 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:23 AM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:10 AM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're using that is the

Re: StringToTimestamp converter bug with timezone (Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken)

2010-06-17 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 2:07 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:23 AM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:10 AM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working fine for years. It's the process you're

Re: StringToTimestamp converter bug with timezone (Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken)

2010-06-17 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/17/2010 2:29 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 2:07 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:23 AM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/17/2010 10:10 AM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: The seed data works fine. It has been working

dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
Any place that specifies a date in a seed xml *must* also specify a timezone. If you do an install on one machine, then do a dump/copy/import on another machine, that is in a different timezone, then reimport the original seed xml, the timestamps will not match. What happens, is that there is no

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
I agree that the scenario you describe can be a problem, but that doesn't mean the seed data is broken. -Adrian On 6/16/2010 1:34 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Any place that specifies a date in a seed xml *must* also specify a timezone. If you do an install on one machine, then do a

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread BJ Freeman
if you got that far it should be all four time fields. however I don't see the need even with sync to do this. = BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
BJ Freeman wrote: if you got that far it should be all four time fields. however I don't see the need even with sync to do this. huh? = BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: I agree that the scenario you describe can be a problem, but that doesn't mean the seed data is broken. I assume that if I import all the xml data files, over and over, that new records will not be created. It'll just update existing records, whatever they are. Changing the

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not specify a time zone along with a file name when importing/exporting? -Adrian On 6/16/2010 1:55 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: I agree that the scenario you describe can be a problem, but that doesn't mean the seed

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not specify a time zone along with a file name when importing/exporting? Because you may have multiple timezones in the data. Timezones are not actually part of the data. They are only utilized during display, by

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not specify a time zone along with a file name when importing/exporting? Because you may have multiple timezones in the data. Timezones are not actually part of the data.

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not specify a time zone along with a file name when importing/exporting? Because you may have multiple timezones in the data. Timezones are not

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not specify a time zone along with a file name when importing/exporting? Because you may have multiple

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not specify a time zone along with a file name when

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not specify a time zone along with a file name when

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/16/2010 3:40 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: It sounds

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:40 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
On 6/16/2010 3:53 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:40 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:53 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:40 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum

Re: dates in seed xml files are very broken

2010-06-16 Thread Adrian Crum
--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Adrian Crum adri...@hlmksw.com wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:53 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:40 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Adrian Crum wrote: On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: On