Re: Support for C++0x std::thread with CLang, was: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-21 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
Currently Linux. I have just bought a ST-Ericsson Snowball card, but can be a platform for Windows phone as well at most no cost. The OS that I am assuming to support are : Linux, Windows and Mac. With pthread you can cover all both for sure: there is a window port. When it will be available the st

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-21 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
Ok...let take apart the entusiasm. You are right! 2011/10/21 Jean-Sebastien Delfino : > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Giorgio Zoppi > wrote: >> >> tnx Jean Sebastian..in the legalese has been written: >> >> YOU MAY reference a prohibited work (e.g. with text or hyperlinks) >> from an apache

Re: Support for C++0x std::thread with CLang, was: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-20 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Giorgio Zoppi wrote: > JS, > I was looking for a portable interface.. > Just 1c, > Giorgio. > That's what I thought too. Looks like std::thread is not ready for prime-time yet with CLang. Apache APR has a portable thread API, proven and tested on many platforms

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-20 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Giorgio Zoppi wrote: > tnx Jean Sebastian..in the legalese has been written: > > YOU MAY reference a prohibited work (e.g. with text or hyperlinks) > from an apache.org web page or identify the work as a system > requirement for the proper operation of the Apache

Re: Support for C++0x std::thread with CLang, was: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-20 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
JS, I was looking for a portable interface.. Just 1c, Giorgio.

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-20 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
tnx Jean Sebastian..in the legalese has been written: YOU MAY reference a prohibited work (e.g. with text or hyperlinks) from an apache.org web page or identify the work as a system requirement for the proper operation of the Apache product. So we can use pococapsule as container as well.

Support for C++0x std::thread with CLang, was: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-20 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:23 AM, dsh wrote: > [1] <- That's what you are looking for in terms of CLang and pthread no? > > [1] > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2391194/what-is-gs-pthread-equiv-in-clang > > Cheers > Daniel > > Not sure. My understanding is that -pthread adds -lpthread to link

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-20 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Giorgio Zoppi wrote: > Jean Sebastian, > when do you use libcloud? That is an interesting point. > I've been using it to bootstrap and control virtual machines for automated testing. -- Jean-Sebastien

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-20 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Giorgio Zoppi wrote: > PocoCaspule is LGPL. Dunno about third derivate stuff and legalese, > but we should check. More people we are, more critical mass we have to > follow and change the runtime to adapt to the cloud. > Best Regards, > Giorgio. > Some info about

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-13 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
PocoCaspule is LGPL. Dunno about third derivate stuff and legalese, but we should check. More people we are, more critical mass we have to follow and change the runtime to adapt to the cloud. Best Regards, Giorgio.

AW: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-13 Thread Arafat, Oliver
compatible. Best Regards --Oliver. Von: Jean-Sebastien Delfino [mailto:jsdelf...@apache.org] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011 08:13 An: dev@tuscany.apache.org Cc: tuscany-...@ws.apache.org Betreff: Re: Cloud enabled devices. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Konradi, Philipp

RE: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-13 Thread Konradi, Philipp
scany-...@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Cloud enabled devices. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Konradi, Philipp mailto:philipp.konr...@siemens.com>> wrote: That sounds like a great idea and I would be interested to understand better what you exactly mean by "SCA clouded embedded devices fra

AW: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-13 Thread Sokolov, Konstantin (ext)
Konstantin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zo...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011 10:43 An: dev@tuscany.apache.org Betreff: Re: Cloud enabled devices. 2011/10/12 Sokolov, Konstantin (ext) : > The use of RTTI in Trentino is limited to only two p

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-13 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
2011/10/12 Sokolov, Konstantin (ext) : > The use of RTTI in Trentino is limited to only two places where a > dynamic_cast is used. This is done mostly for esthetic reasons (prefer C++ > style casts over C Style casts) and could be easily avoided. The entire > logging/log4cxx stuff can be control

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-13 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
Jean Sebastian, when do you use libcloud? That is an interesting point.

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-13 Thread dsh
[1] <- That's what you are looking for in terms of CLang and pthread no? [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2391194/what-is-gs-pthread-equiv-in-clang Cheers Daniel On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Giorgio Zoppi wrote: > 2011/10/13 Jean-Sebastien Delfino : >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:58 AM

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-13 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
2011/10/13 Jean-Sebastien Delfino : > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Giorgio Zoppi > wrote: >> >> > Hi there! a few thoughts: >> > Tuscany-cpp has a hard dependency on HTTPD, used as runtime container >> > instead or writing my own. >> > Not sure if HTTPD mods can be easily ported to LightHTTPD.

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-12 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Konradi, Philipp < philipp.konr...@siemens.com> wrote: > That sounds like a great idea and I would be interested to understand > better what you exactly mean by "SCA clouded embedded devices framework"? > Devices which communicate to SCA services hosted in a cloud?

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-12 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Giorgio Zoppi wrote: > > Hi there! a few thoughts: > > Tuscany-cpp has a hard dependency on HTTPD, used as runtime container > > instead or writing my own. > > Not sure if HTTPD mods can be easily ported to LightHTTPD. If it's > feasible > > and people want to try,

AW: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-12 Thread Sokolov, Konstantin (ext)
: Samstag, 8. Oktober 2011 02:22 An: dev@tuscany.apache.org Betreff: Re: Cloud enabled devices. I would like something more lighter than trentino, i would like not use RTTI or c++ exception, in a real time enviromement they behave really bad. I would like to stay away from log4cxx, it is surrogate

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-11 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
2011/10/11 dsh : > Hi Giorgio, > > if you say WE, is that WE like in HP the enterprise? No. I speak only for me. We (me and my friend who is going to work outside), my manager doesnt know anything about this stuff. I like separating job from apache stuffz. Cheers, Giorgio. -- Quiero ser el rayo d

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-11 Thread dsh
Hi Giorgio, if you say WE, is that WE like in HP the enterprise? Cheers Daniel On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Giorgio Zoppi wrote: > Hi all, > first of all we have to target to a demo product as embedded. This is > what I am looking for, for going to people...and saying we have done > with S

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-11 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
> Hi there! a few thoughts: > Tuscany-cpp has a hard dependency on HTTPD, used as runtime container > instead or writing my own. > Not sure if HTTPD mods can be easily ported to LightHTTPD. If it's feasible > and people want to try, I can help with any questions you have on the > Tuscany HTTPD mods

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-11 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
2011/10/10 Jean-Sebastien Delfino : > Hi there! a few thoughts: > Tuscany-cpp has a hard dependency on HTTPD, used as runtime container > instead or writing my own. > Not sure if HTTPD mods can be easily ported to LightHTTPD. If it's feasible > and people want to try, I can help with any questions

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-11 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
Hi all, first of all we have to target to a demo product as embedded. This is what I am looking for, for going to people...and saying we have done with SCA, it works and works well. Otherwise all this efforts results in it's cool but not sure that it works. Any ideas on this? For the runtime, we co

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-10 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Hi there! a few thoughts: Tuscany-cpp has a hard dependency on HTTPD, used as runtime container instead or writing my own. Not sure if HTTPD mods can be easily ported to LightHTTPD. If it's feasible and people want to try, I can help with any questions you have on the Tuscany HTTPD mods. Some si

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-10 Thread dsh
On a side note - I was thinking to alternatively use LightHTTPD [1] instead of Apache HTTPD cause it run's on most of my embedded devices already. [1] http://www.lighttpd.net/ Cheers Daniel On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Simon Laws wrote: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Giorgio Zoppi > w

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-10 Thread Simon Laws
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Giorgio Zoppi wrote: > For embedded java and python are too much. .NET performs better, but > it is tight with Windows. It has a lot of dependencies, programmers > tends > to use introspection at runtime in the core.  I know, Java is a tool > like can be C/C++, but

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-09 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
For embedded java and python are too much. .NET performs better, but it is tight with Windows. It has a lot of dependencies, programmers tends to use introspection at runtime in the core. I know, Java is a tool like can be C/C++, but generally performs bad in runtime/resource contrains enviroment

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-09 Thread dsh
Btw, I would not completely disregard Java as a platform if you think it doesn't scale on resource constraint devices. For instance SheevaPlug devices [1] can be ordered with an accompanying J9 VM and a ProSyst OSGi R4 framework [2] and I suppose both scales pretty well on those devices. [1] http

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-08 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
i wanna arrive to a platform and a couple of products. I am interested in innovation but not in cs research. I am going to look your pointer. 2011/10/8 dsh : > That finding illustrates that it is not only about application domains > but actually the questions we were asking so far do qualify for >

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-08 Thread dsh
That finding illustrates that it is not only about application domains but actually the questions we were asking so far do qualify for research topics. I am for instance are interested in research questions such as how could computing cycles be offloaded on embedded devices from the main CPU to the

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-08 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
I have found this..http://www.smarcos-project.eu 2011/10/8 Giorgio Zoppi : > It sounds good. Now it is time to find some application domains to > apply it and then funding. > Who can need such framework? Which kind of application should be targeted? > Should be in C or C++? > > > -- > Quiero ser

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-08 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
It sounds good. Now it is time to find some application domains to apply it and then funding. Who can need such framework? Which kind of application should be targeted? Should be in C or C++? -- Quiero ser el rayo de sol que cada día te despierta para hacerte respirar y vivir en me. "Favola -Mod

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-08 Thread dsh
Hi, in 2007 I did the Apache Bennu proposal [1]. I think at that time the proposal did not find plenty of traction but the idea of componentizing every service found on a router/firewall sounds similar to what you are describing. At that time the idea as well was to not use Apache HTTPd on embedde

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-08 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
2011/10/8 dsh : > Hi, > > are you targeting for end user devices such as tablets, cell phones > etc.? at network devices such as embedded routers, firewalls, a NAS > etc. or are you thinking of something that's really agnostic and thus > more pervasive and hence could be run on any of the use case

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-08 Thread dsh
Hi, are you targeting for end user devices such as tablets, cell phones etc.? at network devices such as embedded routers, firewalls, a NAS etc. or are you thinking of something that's really agnostic and thus more pervasive and hence could be run on any of the use case scenarios mentioned? Cheer

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-08 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
Florian, I would like to skip Java...As far I know that is java. 2011/10/8 Florian Moga : > I don't know what the current state is, but seems like we had a couple of > Tuscany samples running on Android [1]. Luciano can probably give us more > info on that. Seems to me like it fits your "SCA cloud

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-07 Thread Florian Moga
I don't know what the current state is, but seems like we had a couple of Tuscany samples running on Android [1]. Luciano can probably give us more info on that. Seems to me like it fits your "SCA clouded embedded devices framework" idea. Eventually, there will be Android on many different devices

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-07 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
I would like something more lighter than trentino, i would like not use RTTI or c++ exception, in a real time enviromement they behave really bad. I would like to stay away from log4cxx, it is surrogate of an optimal java product, we need something more simple for logging or we dont need logging in

Re: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-07 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
ded > devices framework"? I have not seen the code..but it sounds good. I wanna something simple to incorporate in tuscany embedded sca. > Thanks, > Philipp > >> -Original Message- >> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zo...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Frid

RE: Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-07 Thread Konradi, Philipp
r 07, 2011 3:32 PM > To: tuscany-...@ws.apache.org > Subject: Cloud enabled devices. > > Hi all, > are you tired of legacy code? Do you wanna try something new with SCA > architecture? If yes, we are brainstorming about using SCA clouded > embedded devices framework. > What d

Cloud enabled devices.

2011-10-07 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
Hi all, are you tired of legacy code? Do you wanna try something new with SCA architecture? If yes, we are brainstorming about using SCA clouded embedded devices framework. What do u think about it? Cheers, Giorgio -- Quiero ser el rayo de sol que cada día te despierta para hacerte respirar y viv