Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

I would be willing to learn, and then creating the scripts to run in a cron
task. However, I would only have some time next week...

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

> On 01/23/2018 06:35 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> > hmmm... I am afraid that I do not know why it has not presented data yet.
> > It should not only gather the most recent data, but all of it.
>
> There hasn't been a run of the scanner apps yet, as I haven't gotten
> around to it :) If someone wants to learn how to run the scans, I'll be
> happy to teach them (and then later, we should cron it - I currently run
> scans manually in order to verify that things work, how long it takes
> etc - this IS a test instance meant to help us create the scanners etc)
>
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Robert Munteanu 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks, Rafael!
> >>
> >> I tried to look at some stats today but there seems to be no data for
> >> the sling projects. I went to the 'Data Points' page and applied the
> >> custom 'Sling' view I Created, but I got no info. I also tried a
> >> project I knew recently received some activity
> >>
> >>   https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-pipes/commits/master
> >>
> >> That had no data either.
> >>
> >> Should I wait some more?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2018-01-22 at 10:36 -0200, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> >>> I was going to create something to generate the list, but I see you
> >>> already
> >>> did it.
> >>> I added all of the presented sources to Kibble. You should be able to
> >>> see
> >>> some data right after our next run.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Robert Munteanu 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 13:11 +0100, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > On 01/17/2018 09:12 AM, Robert Munteanu wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> Great :-) A couple of questions:
> >>
> >> - I signed up with apache.org email address, but I don't belong
> >> to
> >> an
> >> organisation. Trying to add a Jira project tells me that I
> >> don't
> >> have
> >> permissions to add sources to this organisation
> >
> > I've added you to the kibbletest org now, so you should be able
> > to
> > see
> > things (you may need to go to the orgs page and set it as
> > default).
> 
>  Works now, thank you.
> 
> >
> >> - Jira sources seem to require username + password. Is there a
> >> set
> >> of
> >> shared credentials I can reuse? I'd rather not put in my own
> >> account
> >> data in there.
> >
> > yeah, we have a standard anonymous account we use, though the
> > credentials are generally reserved for the PMC's eyes only.
> >
> > If you could list what we should add, I can get on it today :)
> >
> 
>  I've attached a list of our Github repos. We also use the following
>  Jira project and mailing list
> 
>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING
>  - https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@sling.apache.org
>  - https://lists.apache.org/list.html?userssling.apache.org
> 
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  Robert
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

On 01/16/2018 09:43 PM, Robert Munteanu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 2017-11-27 at 19:26 +0100, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
>>
>> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
>> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
>> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
>>
>> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
>> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
>> metrics they would love to have and use.
>>
>> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
>> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending
>> feedback
>> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
>> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented
>> to
>> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
> 
> I would be interesting in gathering information about the Apache Sling
> project. Now, I'm aware that we might be a bit special, having in
> access of 250 projects ( canonical listing at [1] ), so I won't be
> shocked if you reject or delay our inclusion.

The actual number of repos is somewhat of a moot factor - what really
matters is the code size and activity. I've been doing some timed scans
on the demo server, and I think we can safely bump the resource object
count to 600-700 without any real difficult (note that this would still
only be about an 1/8th of all of ASF).

If someone wants to add Sling, go right ahead :)

> 
> We are interested in Kibble since we have split our source repositories
> which makes it hard to generate aggregate statistics of our development
> activity. For me personally the most important indicators to track
> would be the number of distinct contributors over the last X months,
> which is a fair indicator of community engagement.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> [1]: https://github.com/apache/sling-aggregator/blob/master/default.xml
> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Robert Munteanu]

Hi,

On Mon, 2017-11-27 at 19:26 +0100, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
> 
> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
> 
> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> metrics they would love to have and use.
> 
> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending
> feedback
> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented
> to
> better gauge the health and activity of their project.

I would be interesting in gathering information about the Apache Sling
project. Now, I'm aware that we might be a bit special, having in
access of 250 projects ( canonical listing at [1] ), so I won't be
shocked if you reject or delay our inclusion.

We are interested in Kibble since we have split our source repositories
which makes it hard to generate aggregate statistics of our development
activity. For me personally the most important indicators to track
would be the number of distinct contributors over the last X months,
which is a fair indicator of community engagement.

Thanks,

Robert


[1]: https://github.com/apache/sling-aggregator/blob/master/default.xml

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

On 2018/01/09 18:05:39, Jacques Le Roux  wrote: 
> Thanks Guys,
> 
> Works perfectly :)

Great to hear :)
As for SVN, it's a difficult thing to scan, so there is no support for it yet.
SVN also lacks a proper committer/author scheme, so the results are not easy to 
interpret.
> 
> Jacques
> 
> 
> Le 09/01/2018 à 16:08, Rafael Weingärtner a écrit :
> > Awesome!
> > I have invited Jacques now. I used his apache email account 
> > *jler...@apache.org
> > *
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/09/2018 12:40 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> >>> Ah, so you created your own user. You are not using the guest user?
> >>>
> >>> I am still not able to do this process there. someone would need to add
> >> you
> >>> as a user into Apache org there.
> >> I've fixed the member API now, so you should be able to invite Jacques
> >> to the organisation.
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> >>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Thanks Rafael,
> 
>  But I can't (permission) add them either using my @a.o address or my
> >> main
>  own
> 
>  Jacques
> 
> 
> 
>  Le 09/01/2018 à 12:15, Rafael Weingärtner a écrit :
> 
> > OFBIZ's SVN was not added. However, we added Github repositories:
> > https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-framework.git
> > https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-plugins.git
> > https://github.com/apache/ofbiz.git
> >
> > I am not sure if the integration with SVN is working...
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >> When I try to add the trunk svn sources to the OFBiz view I created it
> >> says I can't despite using my @a.o address
> >>
> >> How to add myself to an organisation? At
> >> https://demo.kibble.apache.org
> >> /organisations.html?page=org I get "You don't seem to belong to any
> >> organisations just yet."
> >>
> >> And when I get to https://demo.kibble.apache.org
> >> /organisations.html?page=org-users I only read "Loading, hang on
> >> tight..!
> >> " even after some minutes (I get a lot of that everywhere ;))
> >>
> >> BTW I guess it's based on snoot.io right? (I have got snoot to work
> >> right)
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 27/11/2017 à 19:26, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
> >>
> >> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
> >>> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> >>> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> >>> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
> >>>
> >>> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> >>> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> >>> metrics they would love to have and use.
> >>>
> >>> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> >>> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending
> >> feedback
> >>> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> >>> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented
> >> to
> >>> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
> >>>
> >>> Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
> >>> later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
> >>>
> >>> Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and
> >> scanned
> >>> on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
> >>> The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but
> >> you
> >>> are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
> >>>
> >>> How to participate:
> >>>
> >>> - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if
> >> your
> >>> project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added
> >> in
> >>> advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on
> >> HipChat or
> >>> in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
> >>>
> >>> - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what
> >> you
> >>> like, dislike and would love to see added.
> >>>
> >>> - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the
> >> code,
> >>> development and community health/trends of your project - which do
> >> you
> >>> have, which would you love to see added?
> >>>
> >>> With regards,
> >>> Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
> >>>
> >>> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> >>> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights
> >> to
> >>> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

Awesome!
I have invited Jacques now. I used his apache email account *jler...@apache.org
*

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

> On 01/09/2018 12:40 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> > Ah, so you created your own user. You are not using the guest user?
> >
> > I am still not able to do this process there. someone would need to add
> you
> > as a user into Apache org there.
>
> I've fixed the member API now, so you should be able to invite Jacques
> to the organisation.
>
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Rafael,
> >>
> >> But I can't (permission) add them either using my @a.o address or my
> main
> >> own
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 09/01/2018 à 12:15, Rafael Weingärtner a écrit :
> >>
> >>> OFBIZ's SVN was not added. However, we added Github repositories:
> >>> https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-framework.git
> >>> https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-plugins.git
> >>> https://github.com/apache/ofbiz.git
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure if the integration with SVN is working...
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> >>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Daniel,
> 
>  When I try to add the trunk svn sources to the OFBiz view I created it
>  says I can't despite using my @a.o address
> 
>  How to add myself to an organisation? At
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org
>  /organisations.html?page=org I get "You don't seem to belong to any
>  organisations just yet."
> 
>  And when I get to https://demo.kibble.apache.org
>  /organisations.html?page=org-users I only read "Loading, hang on
>  tight..!
>  " even after some minutes (I get a lot of that everywhere ;))
> 
>  BTW I guess it's based on snoot.io right? (I have got snoot to work
>  right)
> 
>  Thanks
> 
>  Jacques
> 
> 
> 
>  Le 27/11/2017 à 19:26, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
> 
>  Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
> >
> > The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> > metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> > understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
> >
> > As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> > already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> > metrics they would love to have and use.
> >
> > We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> > demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending
> feedback
> > to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> > they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented
> to
> > better gauge the health and activity of their project.
> >
> > Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
> > later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
> >
> > Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and
> scanned
> > on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
> > The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but
> you
> > are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
> >
> > How to participate:
> >
> > - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if
> your
> > project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added
> in
> > advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on
> HipChat or
> > in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
> >
> > - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what
> you
> > like, dislike and would love to see added.
> >
> > - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the
> code,
> > development and community health/trends of your project - which do
> you
> > have, which would you love to see added?
> >
> > With regards,
> > Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
> >
> > PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> > have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights
> to
> > pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of
> requests.
> >
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 09/01/2018 à 12:40, Rafael Weingärtner a écrit :

Ah, so you created your own user. You are not using the guest user?

Ah right, got the same way than with snoot.io


I am still not able to do this process there. someone would need to add you
as a user into Apache org there.

OK no hurry, I'll use the guest user in the meantime

Thanks

Jacques


On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:


Thanks Rafael,

But I can't (permission) add them either using my @a.o address or my main
own

Jacques



Le 09/01/2018 à 12:15, Rafael Weingärtner a écrit :


OFBIZ's SVN was not added. However, we added Github repositories:
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-framework.git
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-plugins.git
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz.git

I am not sure if the integration with SVN is working...

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

Hi Daniel,

When I try to add the trunk svn sources to the OFBiz view I created it
says I can't despite using my @a.o address

How to add myself to an organisation? At https://demo.kibble.apache.org
/organisations.html?page=org I get "You don't seem to belong to any
organisations just yet."

And when I get to https://demo.kibble.apache.org
/organisations.html?page=org-users I only read "Loading, hang on
tight..!
" even after some minutes (I get a lot of that everywhere ;))

BTW I guess it's based on snoot.io right? (I have got snoot to work
right)

Thanks

Jacques



Le 27/11/2017 à 19:26, Daniel Gruno a écrit :

Hi there, fellow Apache projects!

The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
understand where their project is, was, and is headed.

As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
metrics they would love to have and use.

We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
better gauge the health and activity of their project.

Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.

Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.

How to participate:

- Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).

- Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
like, dislike and would love to see added.

- In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
have, which would you love to see added?

With regards,
Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.

PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

Ah, so you created your own user. You are not using the guest user?

I am still not able to do this process there. someone would need to add you
as a user into Apache org there.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Thanks Rafael,
>
> But I can't (permission) add them either using my @a.o address or my main
> own
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 09/01/2018 à 12:15, Rafael Weingärtner a écrit :
>
>> OFBIZ's SVN was not added. However, we added Github repositories:
>> https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-framework.git
>> https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-plugins.git
>> https://github.com/apache/ofbiz.git
>>
>> I am not sure if the integration with SVN is working...
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> When I try to add the trunk svn sources to the OFBiz view I created it
>>> says I can't despite using my @a.o address
>>>
>>> How to add myself to an organisation? At https://demo.kibble.apache.org
>>> /organisations.html?page=org I get "You don't seem to belong to any
>>> organisations just yet."
>>>
>>> And when I get to https://demo.kibble.apache.org
>>> /organisations.html?page=org-users I only read "Loading, hang on
>>> tight..!
>>> " even after some minutes (I get a lot of that everywhere ;))
>>>
>>> BTW I guess it's based on snoot.io right? (I have got snoot to work
>>> right)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 27/11/2017 à 19:26, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!

 The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
 metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
 understand where their project is, was, and is headed.

 As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
 already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
 metrics they would love to have and use.

 We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
 demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
 to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
 they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
 better gauge the health and activity of their project.

 Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
 later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.

 Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
 on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
 The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
 are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.

 How to participate:

 - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
 project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
 advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
 in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).

 - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
 like, dislike and would love to see added.

 - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
 development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
 have, which would you love to see added?

 With regards,
 Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.

 PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
 have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
 pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.



>>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Rafael,

But I can't (permission) add them either using my @a.o address or my main own

Jacques


Le 09/01/2018 à 12:15, Rafael Weingärtner a écrit :

OFBIZ's SVN was not added. However, we added Github repositories:
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-framework.git
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-plugins.git
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz.git

I am not sure if the integration with SVN is working...

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:


Hi Daniel,

When I try to add the trunk svn sources to the OFBiz view I created it
says I can't despite using my @a.o address

How to add myself to an organisation? At https://demo.kibble.apache.org
/organisations.html?page=org I get "You don't seem to belong to any
organisations just yet."

And when I get to https://demo.kibble.apache.org
/organisations.html?page=org-users I only read "Loading, hang on tight..!
" even after some minutes (I get a lot of that everywhere ;))

BTW I guess it's based on snoot.io right? (I have got snoot to work right)

Thanks

Jacques



Le 27/11/2017 à 19:26, Daniel Gruno a écrit :


Hi there, fellow Apache projects!

The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
understand where their project is, was, and is headed.

As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
metrics they would love to have and use.

We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
better gauge the health and activity of their project.

Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.

Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.

How to participate:

- Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).

- Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
like, dislike and would love to see added.

- In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
have, which would you love to see added?

With regards,
Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.

PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

OFBIZ's SVN was not added. However, we added Github repositories:
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-framework.git
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-plugins.git
https://github.com/apache/ofbiz.git

I am not sure if the integration with SVN is working...

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> When I try to add the trunk svn sources to the OFBiz view I created it
> says I can't despite using my @a.o address
>
> How to add myself to an organisation? At https://demo.kibble.apache.org
> /organisations.html?page=org I get "You don't seem to belong to any
> organisations just yet."
>
> And when I get to https://demo.kibble.apache.org
> /organisations.html?page=org-users I only read "Loading, hang on tight..!
> " even after some minutes (I get a lot of that everywhere ;))
>
> BTW I guess it's based on snoot.io right? (I have got snoot to work right)
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 27/11/2017 à 19:26, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
>
>> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
>>
>> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
>> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
>> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
>>
>> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
>> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
>> metrics they would love to have and use.
>>
>> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
>> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
>> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
>> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
>> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
>>
>> Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
>> later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
>>
>> Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
>> on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
>> The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
>> are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
>>
>> How to participate:
>>
>> - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
>> project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
>> advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
>> in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
>>
>> - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
>> like, dislike and would love to see added.
>>
>> - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
>> development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
>> have, which would you love to see added?
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
>>
>> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
>> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
>> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
>>
>>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi Daniel,

When I try to add the trunk svn sources to the OFBiz view I created it says I 
can't despite using my @a.o address

How to add myself to an organisation? At https://demo.kibble.apache.org/organisations.html?page=org I get "You don't seem to belong to any 
organisations just yet."


And when I get to https://demo.kibble.apache.org/organisations.html?page=org-users I only read "Loading, hang on tight..! " even after some minutes (I 
get a lot of that everywhere ;))


BTW I guess it's based on snoot.io right? (I have got snoot to work right)

Thanks

Jacques


Le 27/11/2017 à 19:26, Daniel Gruno a écrit :

Hi there, fellow Apache projects!

The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
understand where their project is, was, and is headed.

As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
metrics they would love to have and use.

We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
better gauge the health and activity of their project.

Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.

Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.

How to participate:

- Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).

- Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
like, dislike and would love to see added.

- In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
have, which would you love to see added?

With regards,
Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.

PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

On 12/20/2017 01:58 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2017-12-19 14:14, Rafael Weingärtner  wrote: 
>> Done!
> 
> Thank you!
> 
>> These were the sources I added. If I missed something, please do not
>> hesitate to tell me.
> 
> The *sling* repositories are not part of the "Apache Commons"
> project.

I'll get those removed.

> 
> Why do you go through GitHub[1] rather than refer directly to
> the git repositories in the Apache domain[2]?

There are a few reasons to picking GitHub over git-wip, among those are
the fact that many projects use github issues/PRs, which gets picked up
automatically when you use the github URL. Then there's also a point in
keeping the URLs the same - that is to say, git-wip is likely going away
some time soon and will be replaced by gitbox, whereas the github URL
should stay the same.

> 
> Regards,
> Gilles
> 
> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-rng.git
> [2] https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-rng.git
> 
>>
>> GitHub repo(s):
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-logging.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-email.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-validator.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-configuration.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-bcel.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-jcs.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-jexl.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-exec.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-crypto.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-rdf.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-daemon.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-ognl.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-digester.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-net.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-lang.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-io.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-math.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-pool.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-csv.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-collections.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-dbutils.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-dbcp.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-text.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-cli.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-vfs.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-compress.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-codec.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-fileupload.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-beanutils.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-imaging.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-weaver.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-jci.git
>> https://github.com/apache/xml-graphics-commons.git
>> https://github.com/apache/webservices-commons-xmlschema.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-parent.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-build-plugin.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-el.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-testing.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-messaging.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-log.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-discovery-commons.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-html.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-compiler.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-api.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-scheduler.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-fsclassloader.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-osgi.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-messaging-mail.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-mime.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-threads.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-contentdetection.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-impl.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-johnzon.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-metrics.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-log-webconsole.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-testing.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-threaddump.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-ehcache.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-logservice.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-classloader.git
>> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-portal.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-numbers.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-functor.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-jxpath.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-chain.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-scxml.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-proxy.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-rng.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-jci.git
>> https://github.com/apache/commons-weaver.git
>> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Gilles Sadowski]

On 2017-12-19 14:14, Rafael Weingärtner  wrote: 
> Done!

Thank you!

> These were the sources I added. If I missed something, please do not
> hesitate to tell me.

The *sling* repositories are not part of the "Apache Commons"
project.

Why do you go through GitHub[1] rather than refer directly to
the git repositories in the Apache domain[2]?

Regards,
Gilles

[1] https://github.com/apache/commons-rng.git
[2] https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-rng.git

> 
> GitHub repo(s):
> https://github.com/apache/commons-logging.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-email.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-validator.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-configuration.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-bcel.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-jcs.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-jexl.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-exec.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-crypto.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-rdf.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-daemon.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-ognl.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-digester.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-net.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-lang.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-io.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-math.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-pool.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-csv.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-collections.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-dbutils.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-dbcp.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-text.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-cli.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-vfs.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-compress.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-codec.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-fileupload.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-beanutils.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-imaging.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-weaver.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-jci.git
> https://github.com/apache/xml-graphics-commons.git
> https://github.com/apache/webservices-commons-xmlschema.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-parent.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-build-plugin.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-el.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-testing.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-messaging.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-log.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-discovery-commons.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-html.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-compiler.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-api.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-scheduler.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-fsclassloader.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-osgi.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-messaging-mail.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-mime.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-threads.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-contentdetection.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-impl.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-johnzon.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-metrics.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-log-webconsole.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-testing.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-threaddump.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-ehcache.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-logservice.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-classloader.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-portal.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-numbers.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-functor.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-jxpath.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-chain.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-scxml.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-proxy.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-rng.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-jci.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-weaver.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-bsf.git
> https://github.com/apache/commons-jelly.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-container-test.git
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-metrics-rrd4j.git
> 
> Mailing lists:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@commons.apache.org
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@commons.apache.org
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@commonsrdf.apache.org
> 
> 
> Jira:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSRDF
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE
> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

Done! These were the sources I added. If I missed something, please do not
hesitate to tell me.

GitHub repo(s):
https://github.com/apache/commons-logging.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-email.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-validator.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-configuration.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-bcel.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-jcs.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-jexl.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-exec.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-crypto.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-rdf.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-daemon.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-ognl.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-digester.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-net.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-lang.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-io.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-math.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-pool.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-csv.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-collections.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-dbutils.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-dbcp.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-text.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-cli.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-vfs.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-compress.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-codec.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-fileupload.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-beanutils.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-imaging.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-weaver.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-jci.git
https://github.com/apache/xml-graphics-commons.git
https://github.com/apache/webservices-commons-xmlschema.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-parent.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-build-plugin.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-el.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-testing.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-messaging.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-log.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-discovery-commons.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-html.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-compiler.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-api.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-scheduler.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-fsclassloader.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-osgi.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-messaging-mail.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-mime.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-threads.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-contentdetection.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-impl.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-johnzon.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-metrics.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-log-webconsole.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-testing.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-threaddump.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-ehcache.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-logservice.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-classloader.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-portal.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-numbers.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-functor.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-jxpath.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-chain.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-scxml.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-proxy.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-rng.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-jci.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-weaver.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-bsf.git
https://github.com/apache/commons-jelly.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-cache-container-test.git
https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-commons-metrics-rrd4j.git

Mailing lists:
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@commons.apache.org
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@commons.apache.org
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@commonsrdf.apache.org


Jira:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSRDF
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTRIBUTES
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BCEL
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEANUTILS
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BSF
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CHAIN
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLI
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COLLECTIONS
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMPRESS
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONFIGURATION
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CRYPTO

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

ok, I will do that.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

> On 12/04/2017 12:41 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> > So, should we wait a bit more before adding Apache commons?
>
> How about if we hold off for 3-4 days, and if we haven't hit >150ish
> sources by then, we can add them?
>
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Daniel Gruno 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/03/2017 12:25 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> >>> Gilles, I actually do not know the reason behind this limit on data
> >>> sources. I am fairly new to kibble project. Let´s see what Daniel or
> >> others
> >>> have to say about this limit.
> >>
> >> The limit is somewhat arbitrary, but we would favor smaller projects
> >> over behemoths like Commons at the moment. We're trying to, at one hand,
> >> figure out how many sources we can cram into the single demo box we have
> >> at our disposal, while also trying to get as many projects involved as
> >> possible. I know from elsewhere that we would need something like 5-6
> >> times the resources we currently have, if we were to put the entire ASF
> >> into the Kibble demo, and we don't currently have a budget for that.
> >>
> >> Now, the entire ASF would be around 7,500 source objects, so 100 is a
> >> very low limit, granted. If the Commons project has an actual interest
> >> in using Kibble for reports and what not, we can get them added - the
> >> thing to remember here is merely that we'd favor getting as much bang
> >> for our buck as possible.
> >>
> >> I did some quick checks of available resources, and we're not using a
> >> whole bunch yet, so we can probably aim for 200 source objects for now,
> >> and still be fine.
> >>
> >> With regards,
> >> Daniel.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Gilles Sadowski 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi.
> 
>  On 2017-12-02 21:27, Rafael Weingärtner 
>  wrote:
> > How should I handle adding apache commons?
> >
> > If I add all of the sources we will go over the limit of 100 sources.
> >> In
> > Github there are 72 projects, and on Jira there other 70+ projects.
> 
>  A lot of projects, yes; but most of them are quite small, and many
>  have very low activity.
>  Would that mitigate usage resources?
>  If the number above is a hard limit, I'll ask the ML for a priority
> >> list...
> 
> > At
> > least the mailing list seems to be only the ones found here:
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@commons.apache.org
> 
>  The "dev" ML should rather be selected.
> 
>  Gilles
> 
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski 
>  wrote:
> >
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We
> cannot
> >>> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the
> rights
>  to
> >>> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of
>  requests.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Would you consider adding the "Commons"[1] projects?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Gilles
> >>
> >> [1] http://commons.apache.org/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rafael Weingärtner
> >
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

On 12/04/2017 12:41 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> So, should we wait a bit more before adding Apache commons?

How about if we hold off for 3-4 days, and if we haven't hit >150ish
sources by then, we can add them?

> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/03/2017 12:25 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
>>> Gilles, I actually do not know the reason behind this limit on data
>>> sources. I am fairly new to kibble project. Let´s see what Daniel or
>> others
>>> have to say about this limit.
>>
>> The limit is somewhat arbitrary, but we would favor smaller projects
>> over behemoths like Commons at the moment. We're trying to, at one hand,
>> figure out how many sources we can cram into the single demo box we have
>> at our disposal, while also trying to get as many projects involved as
>> possible. I know from elsewhere that we would need something like 5-6
>> times the resources we currently have, if we were to put the entire ASF
>> into the Kibble demo, and we don't currently have a budget for that.
>>
>> Now, the entire ASF would be around 7,500 source objects, so 100 is a
>> very low limit, granted. If the Commons project has an actual interest
>> in using Kibble for reports and what not, we can get them added - the
>> thing to remember here is merely that we'd favor getting as much bang
>> for our buck as possible.
>>
>> I did some quick checks of available resources, and we're not using a
>> whole bunch yet, so we can probably aim for 200 source objects for now,
>> and still be fine.
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Gilles Sadowski 
>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi.

 On 2017-12-02 21:27, Rafael Weingärtner 
 wrote:
> How should I handle adding apache commons?
>
> If I add all of the sources we will go over the limit of 100 sources.
>> In
> Github there are 72 projects, and on Jira there other 70+ projects.

 A lot of projects, yes; but most of them are quite small, and many
 have very low activity.
 Would that mitigate usage resources?
 If the number above is a hard limit, I'll ask the ML for a priority
>> list...

> At
> least the mailing list seems to be only the ones found here:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@commons.apache.org

 The "dev" ML should rather be selected.

 Gilles

>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski 
 wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
>>> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights
 to
>>> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of
 requests.
>>>
>>
>> Would you consider adding the "Commons"[1] projects?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gilles
>>
>> [1] http://commons.apache.org/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Rafael Weingärtner
>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

So, should we wait a bit more before adding Apache commons?

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

> On 12/03/2017 12:25 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> > Gilles, I actually do not know the reason behind this limit on data
> > sources. I am fairly new to kibble project. Let´s see what Daniel or
> others
> > have to say about this limit.
>
> The limit is somewhat arbitrary, but we would favor smaller projects
> over behemoths like Commons at the moment. We're trying to, at one hand,
> figure out how many sources we can cram into the single demo box we have
> at our disposal, while also trying to get as many projects involved as
> possible. I know from elsewhere that we would need something like 5-6
> times the resources we currently have, if we were to put the entire ASF
> into the Kibble demo, and we don't currently have a budget for that.
>
> Now, the entire ASF would be around 7,500 source objects, so 100 is a
> very low limit, granted. If the Commons project has an actual interest
> in using Kibble for reports and what not, we can get them added - the
> thing to remember here is merely that we'd favor getting as much bang
> for our buck as possible.
>
> I did some quick checks of available resources, and we're not using a
> whole bunch yet, so we can probably aim for 200 source objects for now,
> and still be fine.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Gilles Sadowski 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> On 2017-12-02 21:27, Rafael Weingärtner 
> >> wrote:
> >>> How should I handle adding apache commons?
> >>>
> >>> If I add all of the sources we will go over the limit of 100 sources.
> In
> >>> Github there are 72 projects, and on Jira there other 70+ projects.
> >>
> >> A lot of projects, yes; but most of them are quite small, and many
> >> have very low activity.
> >> Would that mitigate usage resources?
> >> If the number above is a hard limit, I'll ask the ML for a priority
> list...
> >>
> >>> At
> >>> least the mailing list seems to be only the ones found here:
> >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@commons.apache.org
> >>
> >> The "dev" ML should rather be selected.
> >>
> >> Gilles
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hello.
> 
>  On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> > have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights
> >> to
> > pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of
> >> requests.
> >
> 
>  Would you consider adding the "Commons"[1] projects?
> 
>  Regards,
>  Gilles
> 
>  [1] http://commons.apache.org/
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Rafael Weingärtner
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

On 12/03/2017 12:25 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> Gilles, I actually do not know the reason behind this limit on data
> sources. I am fairly new to kibble project. Let´s see what Daniel or others
> have to say about this limit.

The limit is somewhat arbitrary, but we would favor smaller projects
over behemoths like Commons at the moment. We're trying to, at one hand,
figure out how many sources we can cram into the single demo box we have
at our disposal, while also trying to get as many projects involved as
possible. I know from elsewhere that we would need something like 5-6
times the resources we currently have, if we were to put the entire ASF
into the Kibble demo, and we don't currently have a budget for that.

Now, the entire ASF would be around 7,500 source objects, so 100 is a
very low limit, granted. If the Commons project has an actual interest
in using Kibble for reports and what not, we can get them added - the
thing to remember here is merely that we'd favor getting as much bang
for our buck as possible.

I did some quick checks of available resources, and we're not using a
whole bunch yet, so we can probably aim for 200 source objects for now,
and still be fine.

With regards,
Daniel.

> 
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>>
>> On 2017-12-02 21:27, Rafael Weingärtner 
>> wrote:
>>> How should I handle adding apache commons?
>>>
>>> If I add all of the sources we will go over the limit of 100 sources. In
>>> Github there are 72 projects, and on Jira there other 70+ projects.
>>
>> A lot of projects, yes; but most of them are quite small, and many
>> have very low activity.
>> Would that mitigate usage resources?
>> If the number above is a hard limit, I'll ask the ML for a priority list...
>>
>>> At
>>> least the mailing list seems to be only the ones found here:
>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@commons.apache.org
>>
>> The "dev" ML should rather be selected.
>>
>> Gilles
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski 
>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello.

 On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> [...]
>
> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights
>> to
> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of
>> requests.
>

 Would you consider adding the "Commons"[1] projects?

 Regards,
 Gilles

 [1] http://commons.apache.org/

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rafael Weingärtner
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Gilles Sadowski]

Hi.

On 2017-12-02 21:27, Rafael Weingärtner  wrote: 
> How should I handle adding apache commons?
> 
> If I add all of the sources we will go over the limit of 100 sources. In
> Github there are 72 projects, and on Jira there other 70+ projects.

A lot of projects, yes; but most of them are quite small, and many
have very low activity.
Would that mitigate usage resources?
If the number above is a hard limit, I'll ask the ML for a priority list...

> At
> least the mailing list seems to be only the ones found here:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@commons.apache.org

The "dev" ML should rather be selected.

Gilles

> 
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> > > have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> > > pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
> > >
> >
> > Would you consider adding the "Commons"[1] projects?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gilles
> >
> > [1] http://commons.apache.org/
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rafael Weingärtner
> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

I'll also note, that if people create their own accounts, please let us
know at the kibble project, so we can add you to the demo organisation
on the demo - otherwise you won't be able to see much :)

On 12/02/2017 12:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 12/02/2017 01:33 AM, Denis Magda wrote:
>> + Ignite dev
>>
>> Rafael,
>>
>> That’s a really useful project. I would use it for Ignite metrics analysis.
>>
>> How do you measure the pony-factor (contributors/committers breakdown per 
>> specific organization)?
> 
> You can read an article on the original pony factor math at David
> Nalley's blog; https://ke4qqq.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/pony-factor-math/
> 
>>
>> Is there a way to see user/dev list specific metrics such as most active 
>> participants (senders and responders), number of signs-up, etc.?
> 
> Yes and no, but mostly yes :)
> There are three mail-related pages you can look at (please log in before
> you proceed to the URLs below):
> 
> - The first is the basic email metrics (Data Points -> Mailing Lists),
> such as this URL for ignite:
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=mail=ignite
> You can zoom in on a specific user/dev list by simply changing the
> sub-filter to dev@ignite or user@ignite and clicking the green
> 'sub-filter' button.
> 
> - The second is the mail mapping, which shows you who is discussing with
> whom, at Relationships -> Discussion author maps. An example of this is:
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/relationships.html?page=mail-map=dev@ignite
> for dev@ignite over the past (default) 6 months. It's advised that you
> zoom in on the timespan to the last month or so, to not get as cluttered
> a view.
> 
> - Finally, while Kibble doesn't have access to who subscribes or
> unsubscribes (that's infra only!), it can extrapolate activity based off
> when people send email, and approximate how many people are currently
> active as mail authors. This retention/activity chart is found under
> Engagement -> Contributor Retention, such as:
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/engagement.html?page=retention=ignite
> 
> While we also have the fun and interesting mood mapping, it's not
> currently been done for ignite, as that costs us a bit of money each
> time we do that scan.
> 
> I hope you find something worth looking at :)
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
> 
>>
>> Igniters, please log in and provide your feedback. The details are below.
>>
>> —
>> Denis
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Rafael Weingärtner 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=repos=true=d58d1803c1337bc2762059eb4d6bd72cca53c4a3c981dcf48d1f7412
>>>  
>>> 
>>>
>>> You need to log in as guest. The username and password are presented in the 
>>> login interface.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Denis Magda >> > wrote:
>>> Rafael,
>>>
>>> Where should I go to see Ignite metrics? Tried to look for data here but 
>>> this seems to be a wrong place:
>>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ 
>>>
>>> —
>>> Denis
>>>
 On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
 > wrote:

 sure.
 You can already see Ignite status there ;)

 On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Denis Magda > wrote:
 Hi Rafael,

 Confirming that the information is correct. Please CC me in all the 
 related discussions directly.

 —
 Denis

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:30 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
> > wrote:
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Rafael Weingärtner  >
> Date: Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right 
> Project
> To: dev@kibble.apache.org 
>
>
> Hi Denis, 
> Can you confirm the Apache Ignite information? so I can add it
>
> GitHub repo(s):
> https://github.com/apache/ignite.git 
> 
>
> Jira:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE 
> 
>
> Mailing lists:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@ignite.apache.org 
> 
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@ignite.apache.org 
> 
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?iss...@ignite.apache.org 
> 
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Denis 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

On 12/02/2017 01:33 AM, Denis Magda wrote:
> + Ignite dev
> 
> Rafael,
> 
> That’s a really useful project. I would use it for Ignite metrics analysis.
> 
> How do you measure the pony-factor (contributors/committers breakdown per 
> specific organization)?

You can read an article on the original pony factor math at David
Nalley's blog; https://ke4qqq.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/pony-factor-math/

> 
> Is there a way to see user/dev list specific metrics such as most active 
> participants (senders and responders), number of signs-up, etc.?

Yes and no, but mostly yes :)
There are three mail-related pages you can look at (please log in before
you proceed to the URLs below):

- The first is the basic email metrics (Data Points -> Mailing Lists),
such as this URL for ignite:
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=mail=ignite
You can zoom in on a specific user/dev list by simply changing the
sub-filter to dev@ignite or user@ignite and clicking the green
'sub-filter' button.

- The second is the mail mapping, which shows you who is discussing with
whom, at Relationships -> Discussion author maps. An example of this is:
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/relationships.html?page=mail-map=dev@ignite
for dev@ignite over the past (default) 6 months. It's advised that you
zoom in on the timespan to the last month or so, to not get as cluttered
a view.

- Finally, while Kibble doesn't have access to who subscribes or
unsubscribes (that's infra only!), it can extrapolate activity based off
when people send email, and approximate how many people are currently
active as mail authors. This retention/activity chart is found under
Engagement -> Contributor Retention, such as:
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/engagement.html?page=retention=ignite

While we also have the fun and interesting mood mapping, it's not
currently been done for ignite, as that costs us a bit of money each
time we do that scan.

I hope you find something worth looking at :)

With regards,
Daniel.

> 
> Igniters, please log in and provide your feedback. The details are below.
> 
> —
> Denis
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Rafael Weingärtner 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=repos=true=d58d1803c1337bc2762059eb4d6bd72cca53c4a3c981dcf48d1f7412
>>  
>> 
>>
>> You need to log in as guest. The username and password are presented in the 
>> login interface.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Denis Magda > > wrote:
>> Rafael,
>>
>> Where should I go to see Ignite metrics? Tried to look for data here but 
>> this seems to be a wrong place:
>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ 
>>
>> —
>> Denis
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> sure.
>>> You can already see Ignite status there ;)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Denis Magda >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>
>>> Confirming that the information is correct. Please CC me in all the related 
>>> discussions directly.
>>>
>>> —
>>> Denis
>>>
 On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:30 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
 > wrote:


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Rafael Weingärtner >
 Date: Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:29 AM
 Subject: Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right 
 Project
 To: dev@kibble.apache.org 


 Hi Denis, 
 Can you confirm the Apache Ignite information? so I can add it

 GitHub repo(s):
 https://github.com/apache/ignite.git 

 Jira:
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE 
 

 Mailing lists:
 https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@ignite.apache.org 
 
 https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@ignite.apache.org 
 
 https://lists.apache.org/list.html?iss...@ignite.apache.org 
 

 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Denis Magda > wrote:
 Hi Daniel,

 Is there an easy way to hook Kibble with Ignite? We’re definitely 
 interested in such capabilities.

 —
 Denis

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Daniel Gruno  > wrote:
>
> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
>
> The Apache 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Denis Magda]

+ Ignite dev

Rafael,

That’s a really useful project. I would use it for Ignite metrics analysis.

How do you measure the pony-factor (contributors/committers breakdown per 
specific organization)?

Is there a way to see user/dev list specific metrics such as most active 
participants (senders and responders), number of signs-up, etc.?

Igniters, please log in and provide your feedback. The details are below.

—
Denis

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Rafael Weingärtner  
> wrote:
> 
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=repos=true=d58d1803c1337bc2762059eb4d6bd72cca53c4a3c981dcf48d1f7412
>  
> 
> 
> You need to log in as guest. The username and password are presented in the 
> login interface.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Denis Magda  > wrote:
> Rafael,
> 
> Where should I go to see Ignite metrics? Tried to look for data here but this 
> seems to be a wrong place:
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ 
> 
> —
> Denis
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> sure.
>> You can already see Ignite status there ;)
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Denis Magda > > wrote:
>> Hi Rafael,
>> 
>> Confirming that the information is correct. Please CC me in all the related 
>> discussions directly.
>> 
>> —
>> Denis
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:30 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Rafael Weingärtner >> >
>>> Date: Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right 
>>> Project
>>> To: dev@kibble.apache.org 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Denis, 
>>> Can you confirm the Apache Ignite information? so I can add it
>>> 
>>> GitHub repo(s):
>>> https://github.com/apache/ignite.git 
>>> 
>>> Jira:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mailing lists:
>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@ignite.apache.org 
>>> 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@ignite.apache.org 
>>> 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?iss...@ignite.apache.org 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Denis Magda >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> 
>>> Is there an easy way to hook Kibble with Ignite? We’re definitely 
>>> interested in such capabilities.
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Denis
>>> 
>>> > On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Daniel Gruno >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
>>> >
>>> > The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
>>> > metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
>>> > understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
>>> >
>>> > As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
>>> > already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
>>> > metrics they would love to have and use.
>>> >
>>> > We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
>>> > demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ 
>>> >  ) and sending feedback
>>> > to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
>>> > they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
>>> > better gauge the health and activity of their project.
>>> >
>>> > Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
>>> > later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
>>> >
>>> > Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
>>> > on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
>>> > The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
>>> > are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
>>> >
>>> > How to participate:
>>> >
>>> > - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org  mailing 
>>> > list and let us know if your
>>> > project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
>>> > advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
>>> > in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
>>> >
>>> > - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Gilles Sadowski]

Hello.

On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote: 
> [...]
> 
> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
> 

Would you consider adding the "Commons"[1] projects?

Regards,
Gilles

[1] http://commons.apache.org/

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

ComDev mailing lists and Jira added.

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

> On 11/30/2017 02:48 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> > Regarding the addition of ComDev to Kibble experiment,
> > I found ComDev Jira page: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV
> >
> > The mailing lists are:
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@community.apache.org
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?stude...@community.apache.org
> >
> > Does ComDev have a repository for some templates or something else
> > somewhere?
> > I did not find anything on Github, is it on Apache's SVN only?
> >
>
> I don't think comdev has a lot of publicly accessible data we can use
> yet, code-wise. there's the svn repo, but there is no git clone of that
> yet (and scanning subversion is a regular PITA, sadly). so perhaps we'll
> have to suffice with the mail and jira for now.
>
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I'd be keen for ComDev to participate too.
> >>
> >> ComDev is a bit different from other projects and I'd be interested in
> >> things like identifying new contributors, seeing how people move on to
> >> participate in other ASF projects (and vice versa where people
> established
> >> in other projects join ComDev) and also the relationships ComDev has
> with
> >> other ASF projects.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Sharan
> >>
> >> On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> >>> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
> >>>
> >>> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> >>> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> >>> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
> >>>
> >>> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> >>> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> >>> metrics they would love to have and use.
> >>>
> >>> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> >>> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
> >>> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> >>> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
> >>> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
> >>>
> >>> Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
> >>> later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
> >>>
> >>> Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and
> scanned
> >>> on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
> >>> The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
> >>> are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
> >>>
> >>> How to participate:
> >>>
> >>> - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
> >>> project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
> >>> advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat
> or
> >>> in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
> >>>
> >>> - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what
> you
> >>> like, dislike and would love to see added.
> >>>
> >>> - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
> >>> development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
> >>> have, which would you love to see added?
> >>>
> >>> With regards,
> >>> Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
> >>>
> >>> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> >>> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> >>> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of
> requests.
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

On 11/30/2017 02:48 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> Regarding the addition of ComDev to Kibble experiment,
> I found ComDev Jira page: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV
> 
> The mailing lists are:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@community.apache.org
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?stude...@community.apache.org
> 
> Does ComDev have a repository for some templates or something else
> somewhere?
> I did not find anything on Github, is it on Apache's SVN only?
> 

I don't think comdev has a lot of publicly accessible data we can use
yet, code-wise. there's the svn repo, but there is no git clone of that
yet (and scanning subversion is a regular PITA, sadly). so perhaps we'll
have to suffice with the mail and jira for now.

> 
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>>
>> I'd be keen for ComDev to participate too.
>>
>> ComDev is a bit different from other projects and I'd be interested in
>> things like identifying new contributors, seeing how people move on to
>> participate in other ASF projects (and vice versa where people established
>> in other projects join ComDev) and also the relationships ComDev has with
>> other ASF projects.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>> On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>>> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
>>>
>>> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
>>> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
>>> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
>>>
>>> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
>>> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
>>> metrics they would love to have and use.
>>>
>>> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
>>> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
>>> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
>>> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
>>> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
>>>
>>> Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
>>> later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
>>>
>>> Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
>>> on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
>>> The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
>>> are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
>>>
>>> How to participate:
>>>
>>> - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
>>> project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
>>> advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
>>> in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
>>>
>>> - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
>>> like, dislike and would love to see added.
>>>
>>> - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
>>> development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
>>> have, which would you love to see added?
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
>>>
>>> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
>>> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
>>> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

Hi Myrle,
I will add these source for Fineract:

GitHub repo(s):
https://github.com/apache/fineract.git
https://github.com/apache/fineract-site.git

Mailing lists:
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@fineract.apache.org
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@fineract.apache.org

Jira:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/FINERACT

If there is something wrong or something else that I left out, please do
not hesitate to tell me.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 8:45 AM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Hi Kibble,
>
> I’d love to have Fineract be part of your testing. We’re a fairly young
> project, so we are still exploring the processes of finding who to propose
> as committer and how to determine community health.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Mon 27. Nov 2017 at 13:27 Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>
> > Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
> >
> > The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> > metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> > understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
> >
> > As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> > already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> > metrics they would love to have and use.
> >
> > We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> > demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
> > to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> > they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
> > better gauge the health and activity of their project.
> >
> > Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
> > later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
> >
> > Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
> > on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
> > The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
> > are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
> >
> > How to participate:
> >
> > - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
> > project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
> > advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
> > in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
> >
> > - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
> > like, dislike and would love to see added.
> >
> > - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
> > development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
> > have, which would you love to see added?
> >
> > With regards,
> > Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
> >
> > PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> > have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> > pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
> >
>



-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

Hi Denis,
Can you confirm the Apache Ignite information? so I can add it

GitHub repo(s):
https://github.com/apache/ignite.git

Jira:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE

Mailing lists:
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@ignite.apache.org
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@ignite.apache.org
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?iss...@ignite.apache.org

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> Is there an easy way to hook Kibble with Ignite? We’re definitely
> interested in such capabilities.
>
> —
> Denis
>
> > On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> >
> > Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
> >
> > The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> > metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> > understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
> >
> > As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> > already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> > metrics they would love to have and use.
> >
> > We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> > demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
> > to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> > they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
> > better gauge the health and activity of their project.
> >
> > Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
> > later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
> >
> > Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
> > on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
> > The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
> > are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
> >
> > How to participate:
> >
> > - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
> > project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
> > advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
> > in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
> >
> > - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
> > like, dislike and would love to see added.
> >
> > - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
> > development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
> > have, which would you love to see added?
> >
> > With regards,
> > Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
> >
> > PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> > have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> > pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
>
>


-- 
Rafael Weingärtner

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Daniel Gruno]

On 11/27/2017 08:15 PM, Rafael Weingärtner wrote:
> What about testing this on Apache CloudStack (ACS) folks?
> 
> Kibble fellows, what would you require from us to start analyzing ACS code
> base?

See my previous email on dev@kibble.

> 
> Are the dashboards public visible? Is it possible to integrate with Sonar,
> Coverity or other code analysis tool, so we can gather information
> regarding technical debt and other code quality related metrics to plot?

In theory, anything is possible.
We don't currently have scanners for coverity or sonar, but if someone
would either work on that or provide us with the API and access to
someplace with the data, we could likely make a scanner and charts for
this quite easily. I imagine this would be useful for many projects.

> 
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
>>
>> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
>> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
>> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
>>
>> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
>> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
>> metrics they would love to have and use.
>>
>> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
>> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
>> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
>> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
>> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
>>
>> Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
>> later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
>>
>> Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
>> on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
>> The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
>> are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
>>
>> How to participate:
>>
>> - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
>> project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
>> advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
>> in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
>>
>> - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
>> like, dislike and would love to see added.
>>
>> - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
>> development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
>> have, which would you love to see added?
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
>>
>> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
>> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
>> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Sharan Foga]

Hi

I'd be keen for ComDev to participate too. 

ComDev is a bit different from other projects and I'd be interested in things 
like identifying new contributors, seeing how people move on to participate in 
other ASF projects (and vice versa where people established in other projects 
join ComDev) and also the relationships ComDev has with other ASF projects.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote: 
> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
> 
> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
> 
> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> metrics they would love to have and use.
> 
> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
> 
> Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
> later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
> 
> Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
> on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
> The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
> are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
> 
> How to participate:
> 
> - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
> project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
> advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
> in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
> 
> - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
> like, dislike and would love to see added.
> 
> - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
> development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
> have, which would you love to see added?
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
> 
> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
> 

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Denis Magda]

Hi Daniel,

Is there an easy way to hook Kibble with Ignite? We’re definitely interested in 
such capabilities.

—
Denis

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> 
> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
> 
> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
> 
> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> metrics they would love to have and use.
> 
> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
> 
> Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
> later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
> 
> Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
> on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
> The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
> are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
> 
> How to participate:
> 
> - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
> project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
> advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
> in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
> 
> - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
> like, dislike and would love to see added.
> 
> - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
> development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
> have, which would you love to see added?
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
> 
> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

[Rafael Weingärtner]

What about testing this on Apache CloudStack (ACS) folks?

Kibble fellows, what would you require from us to start analyzing ACS code
base?

Are the dashboards public visible? Is it possible to integrate with Sonar,
Coverity or other code analysis tool, so we can gather information
regarding technical debt and other code quality related metrics to plot?

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
>
> The Apache Kibble project serves as a practical implementation of
> metrics deemed to be helpful for open source projects trying to
> understand where their project is, was, and is headed.
>
> As such, we need help in determining which metrics projects either
> already use and consider useful for measuring project health or which
> metrics they would love to have and use.
>
> We are looking for projects interested in participating in the Kibble
> demo instance ( https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ ) and sending feedback
> to the Kibble project on which parts they find useful, which elements
> they find useless and which ideas they would love to see implemented to
> better gauge the health and activity of their project.
>
> Initially we are looking for Apache projects to help out, but we will
> later on expand this to other open source organizations and projects.
>
> Projects that participate will be added to the demo instance and scanned
> on a regular basis so the data can be used for reports and analysis.
> The Kibble PMC will ensure that the correct sources are added, but you
> are of course welcome to help identify which parts need analyzing.
>
> How to participate:
>
> - Join the dev@kibble.apache.org mailing list and let us know if your
> project is interested in joining the demo (a few projects were added in
> advance so you can actually test it). You can also join us on HipChat or
> in #kibble on Freenode IRC (IRC and HipChat are bridged).
>
> - Try out the demo, and send us feedback to the mailing list on what you
> like, dislike and would love to see added.
>
> - In particular: Which metrics do you look for when reviewing the code,
> development and community health/trends of your project - which do you
> have, which would you love to see added?
>
> With regards,
> Daniel on behalf of the Apache Kibble project.
>
> PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
>



-- 
Rafael Weingärtner