[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread fish
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[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread fish
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[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread fish
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[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Ian Clarke
> What QOS does the internet have in general? We need simply to have > enough local bandwidth, enough of a buffer, enough parallel requests and > enough redundancy. Assuming this isn't a rhetorical question - the only guarantee that the Internet makes at the IP layer is that your packet will

[freenet-dev] Freenet health indicator

2003-01-26 Thread Ian Clarke
Just had an idea for a "Network Health" infolet that would contain data which would give an indication of how "healthy" the network is as a whole. Firstly, we could have a table - indicating the average response times for the various messages (DataRequest/DataReply etc) against the HTL of the

[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Ian Clarke
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[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
On Sunday 26 January 2003 13:51, you wrote: > > > > Well, I thought you were worried about something running in Fred's JVM > > > by default. > > > > When you next talk to the press and mention Freenet as a replacement for > > internet radio (which it is not), everyone will turn it on and try to

[freenet-dev] FEC insert bug, was:streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
> > > But what does it mean? > > > > It's the effect of a bug in the IBM JDK 1.3. > > I'm using blackdown 1.3.1. I thought that was the last best explanation. Dunno. Maybe Blackdown has the same problem. Search the devl mailing list archives for more info. --gj

[freenet-dev] Request for help with SplitFile testing

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
I could really use some help testing the new SplitFile insertion and retrieval code. The best way to do this at the moment is to use the command line clients. The current default FEC encoder segments files greater than 128Mb. I am most interested in files from 1Mb to 128Mb for now. You can

[freenet-dev] SplitFileRequestServlet missing in HEAD branch.

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
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[freenet-dev] FEC insert bug, was:streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread bdonlan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 26 January 2003 01:36 pm, Gianni Johansson wrote: > On Saturday 25 January 2003 21:55, you wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Saturday 25 January 2003 10:46 pm, Gianni Johansson wrote: > > > I can't

[freenet-dev] FEC insert bug, was:streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
On Saturday 25 January 2003 21:55, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 25 January 2003 10:46 pm, Gianni Johansson wrote: > > I can't reproduce this. > > > > > Size: 64911360 > > > > Are you sure that this is the exact file size? > > That's the size reported

[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
On Saturday 25 January 2003 22:47, you wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:15:26PM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: > > > > 1) This doesn't belong in Fred's JVM. We have enough problems > > > > undertanding/bounding fred's resource consumption as it is. > > > > > > I agree - that is what plugin

[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
On Saturday 25 January 2003 22:49, you wrote: > > length 7.4M > > elapsed time: 37 minutes > > end to end transfer rate: 7.4M * (1024K/M) / (37 min * (60sec/min) ) ~= > >3.4k/sec > > > > It took one minute to find the SplitFile metadata and somewhat less than > > 2 minutes to decode. > > > >

[freenet-dev] ARKs - something is getting confused

2003-01-26 Thread Ed Tomlinson
Hi, Looking at environment ARK sequence number is 22 Last ARK sequence number inserted is 24 clicking on the 24 gets DNF, change the 18 to 17 gets DNF and 16 finds the correct ARK... What happened? This is with build 656. Ed Tomlinson ___ devl

[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Ian Clarke
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[freenet-dev] Hung thread in 656

2003-01-26 Thread Ed Tomlinson
Hi, At this end of the line 656 seems to be working well. I have been running a naked node (no name or ip_address supplied in freenet.conf) and my node is quickly found (1 to 2 hours depend on how long freenet is down here) after an ip address change and maintains the same specialization. I

[freenet-dev] mailing list broken?

2003-01-26 Thread Frank v Waveren
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:05:50PM +0100, Michael Schierl wrote: > Thanks, "nomail" was on. But I did not switch that on. The same thing happened to me a while back, I suspect mailman is being a bit too quick to turn on nomail for temporarily undeliverable mail (due to timed out connections and

[freenet-dev] Freenet Mandatory Upgrade Warning

2003-01-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
> > > > > Ian. -- Matthew Toseland toad at amphibian.dyndns.org/amphibian at users.sourceforge.net Full time freenet hacker. http://freenetproject.org/ Freenet Distribution Node (temporary) at http://amphibian.dyndns.org:8889/dbS0eicAn1o/ ICTHUS. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20030126/81122488/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Not so stable build 547

2003-01-26 Thread Simon Porter
Apologies. Everything works just fine. Thanks for getting this fixed so quickly. On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 21:58, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Fixed. Thanks for the bug report. > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:06:32AM -, Simon Porter wrote: > > 25-Jan-2003 01:04:50 (freenet.node.Main, main): loading

[freenet-dev] Not so stable build 547

2003-01-26 Thread Simon Porter
Hmm. I'm still getting the same problem on a freshly downloaded version. Have you updated freenet-latest.jar? I am running Linux btw. On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 21:58, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Fixed. Thanks for the bug report. > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:06:32AM -, Simon Porter wrote: > >

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread fish
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:49:46AM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: 1) This doesn't belong in Fred's JVM. We have enough problems undertanding/bounding fred's resource consumption as it is. [exaggeration] You could say the same about fec generally, and I'm sure you could make a similar

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread fish
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:15:26PM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: Why not encourage people to do things which have a reason Personally I am optimistic, with Splitfiles I have been seeing overall download rates of around 30k/sec, which is more than enough for a FM quality ogg stream.

[freenet-dev] Hung thread in 656

2003-01-26 Thread Ed Tomlinson
Hi, At this end of the line 656 seems to be working well. I have been running a naked node (no name or ip_address supplied in freenet.conf) and my node is quickly found (1 to 2 hours depend on how long freenet is down here) after an ip address change and maintains the same specialization. I

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
On Saturday 25 January 2003 22:47, you wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:15:26PM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: 1) This doesn't belong in Fred's JVM. We have enough problems undertanding/bounding fred's resource consumption as it is. I agree - that is what plugin architectures are

Re: [freenet-dev] FEC insert bug, was:streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
On Saturday 25 January 2003 21:55, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 25 January 2003 10:46 pm, Gianni Johansson wrote: I can't reproduce this. Size: 64911360 Are you sure that this is the exact file size? That's the size reported by ls -l

[freenet-dev] SplitFileRequestServlet missing in HEAD branch.

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
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Re: [freenet-dev] FEC insert bug, was:streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread bdonlan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 26 January 2003 01:36 pm, Gianni Johansson wrote: On Saturday 25 January 2003 21:55, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 25 January 2003 10:46 pm, Gianni Johansson wrote: I can't reproduce this.

[freenet-dev] Request for help with SplitFile testing

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
I could really use some help testing the new SplitFile insertion and retrieval code. The best way to do this at the moment is to use the command line clients. The current default FEC encoder segments files greater than 128Mb. I am most interested in files from 1Mb to 128Mb for now. You can

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Ian Clarke
Well, I thought you were worried about something running in Fred's JVM by default. When you next talk to the press and mention Freenet as a replacement for internet radio (which it is not), everyone will turn it on and try to run it for a while until the network collapses. More

Re: [freenet-dev] FEC insert bug, was:streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Gianni Johansson
But what does it mean? It's the effect of a bug in the IBM JDK 1.3. I'm using blackdown 1.3.1. I thought that was the last best explanation. Dunno. Maybe Blackdown has the same problem. Search the devl mailing list archives for more info. --gj

[freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Updated freenet.exe

2003-01-26 Thread Dave Hooper
Works for me! While you've got the code editor open... :-) The current and previous versions of freenet.exe don't create any file when I choose the Export Refs option. Somehow the shortcut to the file gets created in my Win2000 recent Documents folder, but the file never gets created

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Ian Clarke
You don't want fred to have to compete with code that is running continuous FEC decoding in the same JVM. Perhaps your machine is so powerful that you haven't noticed, but we can't get fred to run with reasonable CPU usage *all by itself*. If you really care so passionately about

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 04:03:01PM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 13:51, you wrote: Well, I thought you were worried about something running in Fred's JVM by default. When you next talk to the press and mention Freenet as a replacement for internet

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 05:16:36PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: You don't want fred to have to compete with code that is running continuous FEC decoding in the same JVM. Perhaps your machine is so powerful that you haven't noticed, but we can't get fred to run with reasonable CPU

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:00:01PM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: On Saturday 25 January 2003 22:49, you wrote: length 7.4M elapsed time: 37 minutes end to end transfer rate: 7.4M * (1024K/M) / (37 min * (60sec/min) ) ~= 3.4k/sec It took one minute to find the SplitFile

[freenet-dev] Freenet health indicator

2003-01-26 Thread Ian Clarke
Just had an idea for a Network Health infolet that would contain data which would give an indication of how healthy the network is as a whole. Firstly, we could have a table - indicating the average response times for the various messages (DataRequest/DataReply etc) against the HTL of the

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 09:55:22PM +1100, fish wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:49:46AM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: 1) This doesn't belong in Fred's JVM. We have enough problems undertanding/bounding fred's resource consumption as it is. [exaggeration] You could say the same about

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 09:59:23PM +1100, fish wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:49:46AM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: On Friday 24 January 2003 22:11, you wrote: What is the situation with the streaming servlet? Ian. 1) This doesn't belong in Fred's JVM. We have enough problems

Re: [freenet-dev] streaming servlet

2003-01-26 Thread Ian Clarke
What QOS does the internet have in general? We need simply to have enough local bandwidth, enough of a buffer, enough parallel requests and enough redundancy. Assuming this isn't a rhetorical question - the only guarantee that the Internet makes at the IP layer is that your packet will

Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet health indicator

2003-01-26 Thread David 'Bombe' Roden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 27. January 2003 03:33, Ian Clarke wrote: Just had an idea for a Network Health infolet that would contain data which would give an indication of how healthy the network is as a whole. What I really would like to see is an estimate of