[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-06-02 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 23 May 2009 01:20:23 Cl?ment wrote: > > > #Connections to friends + connections to strangers : > > > > Why showing informations about the current activity of > > > the node ? > > > > Good question. Some of it is per-node so clearly has to be here (but only > > in advanced mode), but

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-06-02 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 23 May 2009 01:20:23 Clément wrote: #Connections to friends + connections to strangers : Why showing informations about the current activity of the node ? Good question. Some of it is per-node so clearly has to be here (but only in advanced mode), but the status at the

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-28 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Tuesday, 26. May 2009 19:16:14 Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Sunday 24 May 2009 17:30:00 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > On Sunday, 24. May 2009 16:52:00 xor wrote: > > > Full ACK. Friends page HAS to be separate to encourage users to > > > establish darknet connections. Maybe we should even

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-27 Thread Luke771
Cl?ment wrote: >>> The ?Search Freenet? field and bookmarks are definitly a good thing. >>> However, why do we have : >>> ?Fetch a key? : we don't want to fetch a key, we want to browse Freenet. >>> >> Fetching a key is a CORE functionality, it is like the address bar in an >> internet

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-27 Thread Luke771
Clément wrote: snip The “Search Freenet” field and bookmarks are definitly a good thing. However, why do we have : “Fetch a key” : we don't want to fetch a key, we want to browse Freenet. Fetching a key is a CORE functionality, it is like the address bar in an internet browser! If

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-27 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Tuesday, 26. May 2009 19:16:14 Matthew Toseland wrote: On Sunday 24 May 2009 17:30:00 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: On Sunday, 24. May 2009 16:52:00 xor wrote: Full ACK. Friends page HAS to be separate to encourage users to establish darknet connections. Maybe we should even write

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 21:13:12 Cl?ment wrote: > Le dimanche 24 mai 2009 16:52:00, xor a ?crit : > > On Friday 22 May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Cl?ment wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > First, let's see the current situation : > > > > > > > > >

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-26 Thread Clément
Le dimanche 24 mai 2009 16:52:00, xor a ?crit : > On Friday 22 May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: > > On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Cl?ment wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > First, let's see the current situation : > > > > > > > > > #Navigation : > > > > > > 9 items is really the max we can

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-26 Thread Clément
Le dimanche 24 mai 2009 16:58:17, xor a ?crit : > ( > In general, currently the list of usability issues I have filed can be seen > there: > > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/roadmap_page.php > ) > > On Friday 22 May 2009 18:31:46 Cl?ment wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > First, let's see the current

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 24 May 2009 17:30:00 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > On Sunday, 24. May 2009 16:52:00 xor wrote: > > Full ACK. Friends page HAS to be separate to encourage users to establish > > darknet connections. Maybe we should even write something about Freenet > > becoming faster with more friend

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 24 May 2009 17:30:00 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: On Sunday, 24. May 2009 16:52:00 xor wrote: Full ACK. Friends page HAS to be separate to encourage users to establish darknet connections. Maybe we should even write something about Freenet becoming faster with more friend

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-26 Thread Clément
Le dimanche 24 mai 2009 16:58:17, xor a écrit : ( In general, currently the list of usability issues I have filed can be seen there: https://bugs.freenetproject.org/roadmap_page.php ) On Friday 22 May 2009 18:31:46 Clément wrote: Hi all, First, let's see the current situation :

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-26 Thread Clément
Le dimanche 24 mai 2009 16:52:00, xor a écrit : On Friday 22 May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Clément wrote: Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 21:13:12 Clément wrote: Le dimanche 24 mai 2009 16:52:00, xor a écrit : On Friday 22 May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Clément wrote: Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-24 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Sunday, 24. May 2009 16:52:00 xor wrote: > Full ACK. Friends page HAS to be separate to encourage users to establish > darknet connections. Maybe we should even write something about Freenet > becoming faster with more friend connections - if that's true?

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-24 Thread xor
( In general, currently the list of usability issues I have filed can be seen there: https://bugs.freenetproject.org/roadmap_page.php ) On Friday 22 May 2009 18:31:46 Cl?ment wrote: > Hi all, > > First, let's see the current situation : > > > #Navigation : > > 9 items is really the max we can

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-24 Thread xor
On Friday 22 May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Cl?ment wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > First, let's see the current situation : > > > > > > #Navigation : > > > > 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but > > they aren't all

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-24 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Saturday, 23. May 2009 20:03:25 Matthew Toseland wrote: > Well, no other alert is shown in full at the moment. > > Isn't it better to just say "You have 5 messages from friends" ? Or "You > have 1 new messages from friends" ? I'm not perfectly sure, but I think it would suffice. Maybe I

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-24 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Saturday, 23. May 2009 20:03:25 Matthew Toseland wrote: Well, no other alert is shown in full at the moment. Isn't it better to just say You have 5 messages from friends ? Or You have 1 new messages from friends ? I'm not perfectly sure, but I think it would suffice. Maybe I reacted too

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-24 Thread xor
On Friday 22 May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Clément wrote: Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but they aren't all necessary, and can

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-24 Thread xor
( In general, currently the list of usability issues I have filed can be seen there: https://bugs.freenetproject.org/roadmap_page.php ) On Friday 22 May 2009 18:31:46 Clément wrote: Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9 items is really the max we can afford.

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-24 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Sunday, 24. May 2009 16:52:00 xor wrote: Full ACK. Friends page HAS to be separate to encourage users to establish darknet connections. Maybe we should even write something about Freenet becoming faster with more friend connections - if that's true? From my experience it is faster - I added

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 23 May 2009 10:48:18 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > On Friday, 22. May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: > > Putting the messages only here is a bad idea. Some of these messages are > > IMPORTANT. What we need to do is: - show the summary on the Browse Freenet > > page and maybe

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 23 May 2009 11:04:12 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > On Saturday, 23. May 2009 02:20:23 Cl?ment wrote: > > > > A always seeable (sorry for new words...) button 'Shutdown the node' > > > > and 'Restart the node' > > > > > > You want to encourage people to shut down? IMHO the best way to

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 23 May 2009 01:20:23 Cl?ment wrote: > Le vendredi 22 mai 2009 23:38:35, Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > > On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Cl?ment wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > First, let's see the current situation : > > > > > > > > > #Navigation : > > > > > > 9 items is really the max

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Saturday, 23. May 2009 02:20:23 Cl?ment wrote: > > > A always seeable (sorry for new words...) button 'Shutdown the node' > > > and 'Restart the node' > > > > You want to encourage people to shut down? IMHO the best way to do that > > is with a system tray icon. > > Hum, in all application you

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Friday, 22. May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: > Putting the messages only here is a bad idea. Some of these messages are > IMPORTANT. What we need to do is: - show the summary on the Browse Freenet > page and maybe others > - reduce the number of messages by coalescing them and shifting

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Clément
Le vendredi 22 mai 2009 23:38:35, Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Cl?ment wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > First, let's see the current situation : > > > > > > #Navigation : > > > > 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but > > they aren't all

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Friday, 22. May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: Putting the messages only here is a bad idea. Some of these messages are IMPORTANT. What we need to do is: - show the summary on the Browse Freenet page and maybe others - reduce the number of messages by coalescing them and shifting

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Saturday, 23. May 2009 02:20:23 Clément wrote: A always seeable (sorry for new words...) button 'Shutdown the node' and 'Restart the node' You want to encourage people to shut down? IMHO the best way to do that is with a system tray icon. Hum, in all application you can always

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 23 May 2009 01:20:23 Clément wrote: Le vendredi 22 mai 2009 23:38:35, Matthew Toseland a écrit : On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Clément wrote: Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 23 May 2009 11:04:12 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: On Saturday, 23. May 2009 02:20:23 Clément wrote: A always seeable (sorry for new words...) button 'Shutdown the node' and 'Restart the node' You want to encourage people to shut down? IMHO the best way to do that is

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 23 May 2009 10:48:18 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: On Friday, 22. May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: Putting the messages only here is a bad idea. Some of these messages are IMPORTANT. What we need to do is: - show the summary on the Browse Freenet page and maybe others

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Cl?ment wrote: > Hi all, > > First, let's see the current situation : > > > #Navigation : > > 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but > they > aren't all necessary, and can confuse the newbies. Agreed, we need sub-menus. > >

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-22 Thread Clément
Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but they aren't all necessary, and can confuse the newbies. #Browse Freenet page : The ?Search Freenet? field and bookmarks are definitly a good thing.

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-22 Thread Ian Clarke
This is exactly the kind of UI review we need. If nobody disagrees, I suggest that you start filing bug reports in mantis with specific suggestions about how to rectify each of these UI bugs. Ian. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Cl?ment wrote: > Hi all, > > First, let's see the current

[freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-22 Thread Clément
Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but they aren't all necessary, and can confuse the newbies. #Browse Freenet page : The “Search Freenet” field and bookmarks are definitly a good thing.

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-22 Thread Ian Clarke
This is exactly the kind of UI review we need. If nobody disagrees, I suggest that you start filing bug reports in mantis with specific suggestions about how to rectify each of these UI bugs. Ian. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Clément cvol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, First, let's see

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Clément wrote: Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but they aren't all necessary, and can confuse the newbies. Agreed, we need sub-menus. #Browse

Re: [freenet-dev] Why current ui may be improved, and proposed improvements

2009-05-22 Thread Clément
Le vendredi 22 mai 2009 23:38:35, Matthew Toseland a écrit : On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Clément wrote: Hi all, First, let's see the current situation : #Navigation : 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but they aren't all necessary, and can