Re: [xwiki-devs] [Brainstorming] Issue tracking for xwiki-contrib projects

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
As mentioned to Vincent in a previous private discussion, perhaps a great improvement more or less related to this topic, if we are to keep recommending/forcing jira for contrib projects, would be to use some jira plugin that allows logging in with GitHub credentials. Would be nice if we would hav

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Interface and Content Language Separation

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
Hi Denis. Actually there is http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10745 that I have committed yesterday on master. I will backport it to the 6.2.x branch today and so we will have it for 6.2.2. Thanks, 2014-10-01 0:38 GMT+02:00 Denis Gervalle : > Hi, > > After seeing that 6.2.1 still doesn't have

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Guillaume Lerouge < > > m...@guillaumelerouge.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 2

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Interface and Content Language Separation

2014-10-01 Thread Denis Gervalle
Hi Guillaume, I didn't found it just because I saw this as a bug, not an improvement. Sorry for the noise, On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > Hi Denis. > > Actually there is http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10745 that I have > co

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume Lerouge
Hi, after discussing with Vincent this morning we came to a suggestion that would fix my issue with the current location of the add button. The idea would be to move the search bar to the left of the menu, and put the "Add" button in its place. Crude image explanation here: https://www.dropbox.co

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Brainstorming] Issue tracking for xwiki-contrib projects

2014-10-01 Thread Marius Dumitru Florea
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Eduard Moraru wrote: > As mentioned to Vincent in a previous private discussion, perhaps a great > improvement more or less related to this topic, if we are to keep > recommending/forcing jira for contrib projects, would be to use some jira > plugin that allows log

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Brainstorming] Issue tracking for xwiki-contrib projects

2014-10-01 Thread Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Eduard Moraru wrote: >> As mentioned to Vincent in a previous private discussion, perhaps a great >> improvement more or less related to this topic, if we are to keep >> recommending/forcing jira for

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread vinc...@massol.net
On 1 Oct 2014 at 10:09:00, Guillaume Lerouge (guilla...@xwiki.com(mailto:guilla...@xwiki.com)) wrote: > Hi, > > after discussing with Vincent this morning we came to a suggestion that > would fix my issue with the current location of the add button. The idea > would be to move the search bar

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Contrib] Requesting repository for the 'Query Generator and Query Macro' application

2014-10-01 Thread vinc...@massol.net
On 1 Oct 2014 at 08:47:24, Paul Pantiru (paul.pant...@xwiki.com(mailto:paul.pant...@xwiki.com)) wrote: > Yes, actually I do. Done: - http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/SRA - http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/QGA Enjoy! -Vincent > Thanks > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:19 PM, > vinc...@massol.net(mailt

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
So basically, you want: http://tof.canardpc.com/view/25ad0704-563e-41cd-bbf2-72c371912245.jpg 2014-10-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 vinc...@massol.net : > > > On 1 Oct 2014 at 10:09:00, Guillaume Lerouge (guilla...@xwiki.com(mailto: > guilla...@xwiki.com)) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > after discussing with Vinc

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume Lerouge
Hi, ᐧ On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > So basically, you want: > http://tof.canardpc.com/view/25ad0704-563e-41cd-bbf2-72c371912245.jpg That would be very cool yes :-) Maybe we could launch a vote on this? And as Edy pointed it

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
Even better: http://tof.canardpc.com/view/19c9c68f-9dae-440e-ad82-3b8a6cc4623a.jpg 2014-10-01 10:59 GMT+02:00 Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhum...@xwiki.com>: > So basically, you want: > http://tof.canardpc.com/view/25ad0704-563e-41cd-bbf2-72c371912245.jpg > > 2014-10-01 10:46 GMT+02:00

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread vinc...@massol.net
  On 1 Oct 2014 at 11:00:10, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (gdelhum...@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhum...@xwiki.com)) wrote: > So basically, you want: > http://tof.canardpc.com/view/25ad0704-563e-41cd-bbf2-72c371912245.jpg Sounds very good to me: - search is less visible on the right which is goo

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread vinc...@massol.net
  On 1 Oct 2014 at 11:05:17, Guillaume Lerouge (guilla...@xwiki.com(mailto:guilla...@xwiki.com)) wrote: > Hi, > ᐧ > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > > > So basically, you want: > > http://tof.canardpc.com/view/25ad0704

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Jeremie BOUSQUET
2014-10-01 11:04 GMT+02:00 Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhum...@xwiki.com>: > Even better: > http://tof.canardpc.com/view/19c9c68f-9dae-440e-ad82-3b8a6cc4623a.jpg > It's getting closer and closer from its original location ! :D > > 2014-10-01 10:59 GMT+02:00 Guillaume "Louis-Marie" De

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Denis Gervalle
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > Even better: > http://tof.canardpc.com/view/19c9c68f-9dae-440e-ad82-3b8a6cc4623a.jpg Yes that one looks very cool to me but... :) I wonder if the name would not be better to be "Create". Since,

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread vinc...@massol.net
  On 1 Oct 2014 at 12:08:23, Denis Gervalle (d...@softec.lu(mailto:d...@softec.lu)) wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > > > Even better: > > http://tof.canardpc.com/view/19c9c68f-9dae-440e-ad82-3b8a6cc4623a.jpg > >

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Marius Dumitru Florea
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >> Even better: >> http://tof.canardpc.com/view/19c9c68f-9dae-440e-ad82-3b8a6cc4623a.jpg > > > Yes that one looks very cool to me but... :)

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Adding new velocity methods to simulate try/catch in Velocity

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
Hi, Interesting, though I do have my worries about having to deal with actual exceptions in velocity. Probably the most common usecase would be just to display the exception, but others may now be tempted to look at exception types and display custom messages for each error situation. That should

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
Hi, I kind of like this proposal. As Jeremie pointed out, we`re more or less back where we started from, with the "improvement" that the "Add" button is now in the middle of the page, hard to miss :) Now, if we also rename "Add" to "Create", the only downside is that awkward feeling of more or le

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Adding new velocity methods to simulate try/catch in Velocity

2014-10-01 Thread Paul Libbrecht
definitely useful in many cases. Procedures you expect is in the view code. The rest, maybe just a polite error message, is in the catch code. paul On 1 oct. 2014, at 12:45, Eduard Moraru wrote: > That should > improve the quality of the UIs, but at the same time I feel like it will > increase

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Brainstorming] Issue tracking for xwiki-contrib projects

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea > wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Eduard Moraru > wrote: > >> As mentioned to Vincent in a previous private discussion, perhaps a > great > >> improvement more or less re

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote: > Hi, > > I kind of like this proposal. As Jeremie pointed out, we`re more or less > back where we started from, with the "improvement" that the "Add" button is > now in the middle of the page, hard to miss :) > > Now, if we also rename "Add" t

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread vinc...@massol.net
  On 1 Oct 2014 at 14:12:09, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (vali...@gmail.com(mailto:vali...@gmail.com)) wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I kind of like this proposal. As Jeremie pointed out, we`re more or less > > back where we started from, with

[xwiki-devs] [Discussion] What the "templates" directory should contain?

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
Hi. Since 6.2, we have the following issue: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11027 "The templates directory has VMs from Colibri". Until now, we used to have all *.vm files in this directory, and nothing in the "colibri" one, because Colibri was the default skin. Now that Flamingo is the defau

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Adding new velocity methods to simulate try/catch in Velocity

2014-10-01 Thread vinc...@massol.net
Hi Edy, On 1 Oct 2014 at 12:45:52, Eduard Moraru (enygma2...@gmail.com(mailto:enygma2...@gmail.com)) wrote: > Hi, > > Interesting, though I do have my worries about having to deal with actual > exceptions in velocity. Probably the most common usecase would be just to > display the exception, b

[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] A new javascript service to get XWiki metadata

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
Hello. Some months ago, I created a topic about switching to HTML5 [1]. One of my concerns was that we currently use custom meta tags to store XWiki metadata, such as the current space, the current page, etc... [2]. These meta tags are not allowed anymore in HTML5 so we need to remove them. In th

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] What the "templates" directory should contain?

2014-10-01 Thread Jean SIMARD
The solution of putting anything *skin-dependent* in the 'skins' directories make sense. And then, let *.vm files that are *not skin-dependent* in the 'templates' directory. In JIRA[1], you argue that files in 'templates' may break one of the skin without noticing it (because you were testing on

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Interface and Content Language Separation

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
Hi, My conclusion from this thread is that having a permanent display of the interface language is a waste of UI. In other words and IMO, the interface language should be a user preference just like "User Type" or "Editor Preferences" inside the user's profile. Funnily enough, we have the perfect

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] What the "templates" directory should contain?

2014-10-01 Thread Thomas Mortagne
The location of this folder only make sense when it contains only generic content. All skins inherit from it and having Flamingo inherit from a partial Colibri (which is the current situation) does not make any sense. Having this folder not containing much is not an issue but having it filled with

[xwiki-devs] [Discussion] About Icon Themes

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
Hi. In XWiki 6.2, we have introduced the Icon Theme Application [1]. The idea was to be able to use Font Awesome in the Applications Panel without breaking all extensions. So we have a mapping between silk icons (that the extensions used until now) and the font awesome equivalents [2]. But, of co

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] About Icon Themes

2014-10-01 Thread Jean SIMARD
This sounds like a good idea. About the naming, shouldn't we use a prefix like font-awesome? I know this is kind of different context but anyway, I just launch the idea. On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 03:59:01PM +0200, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau wrote: > Hi. > > In XWiki 6.2, we have introduce

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] About Icon Themes

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
The prefix could be good to avoid having a name that already exists in Silk, but I'm not 100% sure that it would be that useful. 2014-10-01 16:04 GMT+02:00 Jean SIMARD : > This sounds like a good idea. About the naming, shouldn't we use a prefix > like > font-awesome? I know this is kind of dif

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] What the "templates" directory should contain?

2014-10-01 Thread Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
Hi, IMO /templates/ folder makes sense when there are multiple skins supported. Now that Colibri is not the default skin anymore, we should copy all the templates specific to Colibri in /colibri/ folder. Flamingo should contain just templates specific to it. /templates/ should contain templates s

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Denis Gervalle
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:13 PM, vinc...@massol.net wrote: > > > > > > On 1 Oct 2014 at 12:08:23, Denis Gervalle (d...@softec.lu(mailto: > d...@softec.lu)) wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > > gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > > > > > Even better: > >

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Denis Gervalle
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > > gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > > > >> Even better: > >> http://tof.c

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] About Icon Themes

2014-10-01 Thread Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > Hi. > > In XWiki 6.2, we have introduced the Icon Theme Application [1]. The idea > was to be able to use Font Awesome in the Applications Panel without > breaking all extensions. So we have a mappin

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] What the "templates" directory should contain?

2014-10-01 Thread Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
2014-10-01 16:41 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) : > Hi, > > IMO /templates/ folder makes sense when there are multiple skins supported. > Now that Colibri is not the default skin anymore, we should copy all the > templates specific to Colibri in /colibri/ folder. > Flamingo should contain jus

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Denis Gervalle
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Eduard Moraru > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I kind of like this proposal. As Jeremie pointed out, we`re more or less > > back where we started from, with the "improvement" that the "Add" button > is >

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Eduard Moraru > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I kind of like this proposal. As Jeremie pointed out, we`re

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] What the "templates" directory should contain?

2014-10-01 Thread Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > 2014-10-01 16:41 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) : > > > Hi, > > > > IMO /templates/ folder makes sense when there are multiple skins > supported. > > Now that Colibri is not the default skin any

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Idea] Sponsoring issues

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
Hi, Thanks to Vincent, we have installed the Jira plugin and we should be good to go. Issues on jira.xiwki.org now have a "Sponsor This!" section and a link to start sponsoring that issue. The only downside is that instead of having 1 XWiki project for all issues, we have 1 project for each Jira

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Idea] Sponsoring issues

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
Updated again the Contributing page for better visibility: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HSponsoringissues Thanks, Eduard On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to Vincent, we have installed the Jira plugin and we should be good > to g

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] What the "templates" directory should contain?

2014-10-01 Thread Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >> 2014-10-01 16:41 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) : >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > IMO /templates/ folder makes sense when there are

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] What the "templates" directory should contain?

2014-10-01 Thread Thomas Mortagne
(note that I'm currently working on a descriptor file to allow a skin to declare its own base skin but it's a surprise) On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Guillaume "Louis-

[xwiki-devs] [XWiki Day] BFD#64

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
Hi devs, As mentioned last week, I propose we do a BFD (BFD#64) tomorrow: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/XWikiDays#HBugfixingdays We have not really made any progress on this yet, since for the 1 year period we are at 106 bugs behind. See: http://jira.xwiki .org/secure/Dashboard.js

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Denis Gervalle
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > vali...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Eduard Moraru > > > wrote: > >

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Eduard Moraru
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > > vali...@gmail

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin

2014-10-01 Thread Denis Gervalle
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > vali...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed,

[xwiki-devs] Help getting started on a table-generating extension

2014-10-01 Thread Bryn Jeffries
I'm appreciate some pointers on getting started on writing an extension component that retrieves data from an external database and presents it as a table. I have reviewed a lot of the available documentation, but must admit to getting a little lost with the various changes in standards, as a lo