On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 13:33:29 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
Brilliant, DConf comes to the UK, I can get to it…
except…
it's on at the exact same time as DevoxxUK 2019 which is at the
Business Design Centre. :-(
Programming languages are unimportant anyway.
On Friday, 28 December 2018 at 16:31:01 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 28 December 2018 at 07:08:19 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:
While I admire your persistence I fail to understand why you
simply don't ignore stuff you do not like. If you do not like
conferences fine - do not go there, and le
On 12/28/18 11:31 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
But I'm telling you, DConf can learn from this stuff. Joakim is doing
the community a service by trying to get you all to try some changes.
Even baby step compromises can yield results at low risk.
Note that the proposals always ask for format (talk,
On Friday, 28 December 2018 at 16:31:01 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
For last year's meeting, my manager (the team I'm on has done
our meetings differently for a while) convinced the CEO to try
a more interactive approach for the org-wide meeting too. We
did that speaker intro, small random group
On Friday, 28 December 2018 at 07:08:19 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:
While I admire your persistence I fail to understand why you
simply don't ignore stuff you do not like. If you do not like
conferences fine - do not go there, and let us who do like them
and think they are useful have some fun!
S
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 13:46:39 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Given that this conference format is dying off, is there any
explanation for why the D team wants to continue this
antiquated ritual?
Why are you bringing this again? Are you going to talk the same
stuff whenever someone mentions
On Thursday, 27 December 2018 at 17:00:05 UTC, Robert M. Münch
wrote:
On 2018-12-22 21:38:42 +, Laeeth Isharc said:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 18:47:40 UTC, Robert M. Münch
wrote:
On 2018-12-22 12:18:25 +, Mike Parker said:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to Lon
On Thursday, 27 December 2018 at 17:13:19 UTC, Robert M. Münch
wrote:
On 2018-12-22 21:57:09 +, Adam Wilson said:
Airlines have had years to prepare for Brexit, and humans are
generally pretty good at avoiding disasters that they've know
about for years.
You assumption is wrong, since no
On 2018-12-22 21:57:09 +, Adam Wilson said:
On 12/22/18 10:47 AM, Robert M. Münch wrote:
On 2018-12-22 12:18:25 +, Mike Parker said:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London! We're still
ironing out the details, but I've been sitting on this for weeks and,
now that
On 2018-12-22 21:38:42 +, Laeeth Isharc said:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 18:47:40 UTC, Robert M. Münch wrote:
On 2018-12-22 12:18:25 +, Mike Parker said:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London! We're still
ironing out the details, but I've been sitting on thi
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 12:18:25 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London!
That's a funny typo you have for BeerConf there.
BEERCONF
On Thursday, 27 December 2018 at 08:25:23 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
On Thu, 2018-12-27 at 02:13 +, Joakim via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
Wow, you've really gone off the deep end now. First you lie
that I presented no data, then when called out, start claiming
defamation and talk ab
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 11:26:52 UTC, Guillaume Piolat
wrote:
Last year I had an amazing time at Dconf.
Went to bike there for 9 days (800km), to arrive the day before
DConf.
👍👍 woah dude !
On Thu, 2018-12-27 at 02:13 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> […]
>
> Wow, you've really gone off the deep end now. First you lie that
> I presented no data, then when called out, start claiming
> defamation and talk about bringing lawyers into it.
You seem to be a beginner at g
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 09:34:48 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 05:07 +, Joakim via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
I wrote. I have never called anyone any name or insult in
anything I wrote. I have used a pejorative for a type of
argument
that was being used, o
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 16:56:17 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 09:45 +, Joakim via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
Wtf are you talking about? I've never emailed you in my life.
If you mean in this forum thread, quote what you think is
"personal abuse," I see
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 11:26:52 UTC, Guillaume Piolat
wrote:
Went to bike there for 9 days (800km), to arrive the day before
DConf.
Munich was a beautiful city but Switzerland was very graphic.
Friends jokingly said it was a D pilgrimage and it was, kind of
:)
You could still have
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 09:45 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>
[…]
> Wtf are you talking about? I've never emailed you in my life. If
> you mean in this forum thread, quote what you think is "personal
> abuse," I see none.
We can get to that later, no need for now given your stat
Awesome! I look forward to DConf 2019. I'm planning my trip
already.
Thanks you all who's working behind the scenes to make this
happen. It's amazing.
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 00:51:51 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe
wrote:
The talks are either irrelevant, trivial, or vaporware
(seriously, how much of the stuff described have never come to
pass?), and there's really no benefit in spending several days
of my life on that. Especially when I can w
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 09:34:48 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 05:07 +, Joakim via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
I wrote. I have never called anyone any name or insult in
anything I wrote. I have used a pejorative for a type of
argument
that was being used, o
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 05:07 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> […]
> I wrote. I have never called anyone any name or insult in
> anything I wrote. I have used a pejorative for a type of argument
> that was being used, or characterized certain actions negatively.
[…]
I beg to diff
On Tuesday, 25 December 2018 at 23:09:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/25/2018 10:54 AM, Joakim wrote:
[...]
It's fine that you disagree with others, and it's ok when you
insult me, but when you insult others it's time to stop.
It's not clear what you're referring to, since you quote noth
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 00:06:39 UTC, Nicholas Wilson
wrote:
I don't mean to stoke the flames on this anymore, but I do:
I've been to past conferences and now that I'm not a poor
student anymore I'd pay to go to them.
I've been to past conferences and don't consider it worth going
e
On Tuesday, 25 December 2018 at 18:54:25 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Simply repeating over and over again that you're not
"convinced" is not an argument, nor do your own personal
reasons above argue for one format over another.
I don't mean to stoke the flames on this anymore, but I do: I've
been to p
On 12/25/2018 10:54 AM, Joakim wrote:
[...]
It's fine that you disagree with others, and it's ok when you insult me, but
when you insult others it's time to stop.
On Tuesday, 25 December 2018 at 11:27:29 UTC, Nicholas Wilson
wrote:
On Tuesday, 25 December 2018 at 05:01:43 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 24 December 2018 at 22:22:08 UTC, Steven
Schveighoffer wrote:
The 0.1% of the community that attend seem to like it, the
vast majority don't, or at least d
On Tuesday, 25 December 2018 at 05:01:43 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 24 December 2018 at 22:22:08 UTC, Steven
Schveighoffer wrote:
The 0.1% of the community that attend seem to like it, the vast
majority don't, or at least don't care.
You think we have 200k users? More to the point you negle
On Tuesday, 25 December 2018 at 07:10:46 UTC, rikki cattermole
wrote:
On 25/12/2018 6:01 PM, Joakim wrote:
See my responses to Nicholas above, I don't think the Android
port merits a talk. By the same standards I apply to others'
talks above, I don't think my work merits a talk either. ;)
A t
On 25/12/2018 6:01 PM, Joakim wrote:
See my responses to Nicholas above, I don't think the Android port
merits a talk. By the same standards I apply to others' talks above, I
don't think my work merits a talk either. ;)
A talk covering ARM and Android development in general would be very
well
On Monday, 24 December 2018 at 22:22:08 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On 12/24/18 2:44 AM, Joakim wrote:
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 22:36:05 UTC, Steven
Schveighoffer wrote:
Huh? It's their decision, not yours. Even if the decision has
no reason at all, it's still theirs. What is the p
On Monday, 24 December 2018 at 12:30:57 UTC, Vijay Nayar wrote:
Looking forward to it! The caliber of people at these
conferences has been exceptional every year I've gone, and many
of the ideas presented have been very valuable, whether they
were directly related to DLang or not.
Just one sm
On 12/24/2018 4:30 AM, Vijay Nayar wrote:
I've been doing quite a bit of work this year on the Google S2 Geometric Library
in D. If I can benchmark the library against the C++ version or show how it can
be used to tackle some of the trickier real-time problems in large-scale web
services, would
On 12/24/2018 2:22 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I'm sure Walter and Andrei would
not discourage more D conferences or conference-like gatherings.
Speaking for myself (and I'm sure Andrei would agree) we're all for it.
On 12/24/18 2:44 AM, Joakim wrote:
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 22:36:05 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Huh? It's their decision, not yours. Even if the decision has no
reason at all, it's still theirs. What is the problem? Start your own
D "conference competitor" if you think you can do
I'm just some random guy but for what it's worth the recorded
talks at DConf are valuable to me. I don't much care what format
the conference takes or if we even continue to have them since
it's not often practical for me to attend anyway, but I would
miss the talks. It would be cool if the com
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 12:18:25 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London!
We're still ironing out the details, but I've been sitting on
this for weeks and, now that we have a venue, I just can't keep
quiet about it any longer.
Looking forwar
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 14:20:08 UTC, Nicholas Wilson
wrote:
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 10:59:32 UTC, Joakim wrote:
You say that like some superior technology exists to replace
the conference.
It does, read the first link I gave in my first post above.
You mean the one that says "
On 12/23/2018 3:40 PM, Rubn wrote:
I'll take that to assume you aren't paying for your own ticket, your own hotel
expenses, etc. I wonder if you would feel differently about this if you had to
pay for all these out of your own pocket.
I paid my own expenses for DConf. So did many of the speake
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 10:07:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
BTW, another point for the presentations is that we cover the
air fare and hotel expenses for the presenters. Quite a lot of
people have been able to attend because of this. It's our way
of giving a little bit back to strong cont
On 12/22/18 12:22 PM, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 17:13:06 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:57:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I'm not trying to discuss it with you or the community. I'm asking
the D team who're making this decision why it's being made, desp
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 16:05, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how a talk is supposed to inspire anything
> substantive _before_ you've heard it, and pre-recorded talks
> watched at home would fill the same purpose after.
>
No one is interested in watching pre-recorded ta
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 15:40, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
>
> On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 14:20:08 UTC, Nicholas Wilson
> wrote:
> > they cannot compare (as in apples to oranges) to high-bandwidth
> > low latency personal communication with all the people that
> > have an in
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 10:07:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/22/2018 10:20 PM, Joakim wrote:
Honestly, yours are routinely the worst presentations at
DConf. Your strength as a presenter is when you dig deeply
into a bunch of technical detail or present some new technical
paradigm, s
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 14:20:08 UTC, Nicholas Wilson
wrote:
they cannot compare (as in apples to oranges) to high-bandwidth
low latency personal communication with all the people that
have an interest (business, technical, whatever) and technical
expertise in the subject at hand.
The
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 10:59:32 UTC, Joakim wrote:
You say that like some superior technology exists to replace
the conference.
It does, read the first link I gave in my first post above.
You mean the one that says "I don’t know how to fix conferences"?
Yes, DConf may benefit from tu
On 12/23/2018 2:59 AM, Joakim wrote:
I wish those organizing DConf would focus on that more.
You're free to organize D meetups and conferences as you see fit. Heck, C++ has
many conferences, run by different organizations with different ideas on how to
do it. Nothing wrong with that.
Even A
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 09:51:58 UTC, Nicholas Wilson
wrote:
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 08:08:59 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 06:54:26 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
Others have cited Rust and Go. I shall cite Python, Ruby,
Groovy, Java, Kotlin, Clojure, Haskell, all
On 12/23/2018 1:36 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
If people want to have a DConf, it is not your position to tell them they
cannot.
No worries, we're full steam ahead on DConf 2019. I, for one, am greatly looking
forward to it and seeing everybody.
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 09:36:19 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 08:08 +, Joakim via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: […]
This questioning of iOS is so removed from reality that it
makes me question if you are qualified to comment on this
matter at all. iOS is the larg
On 12/22/2018 10:20 PM, Joakim wrote:
Honestly, yours are routinely the worst presentations at DConf. Your strength as
a presenter is when you dig deeply into a bunch of technical detail or present
some new technical paradigm, similar to Andrei. Yet, your DConf keynotes usually
go the exact opp
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 08:08:59 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 06:54:26 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
Others have cited Rust and Go. I shall cite Python, Ruby,
Groovy, Java, Kotlin, Clojure, Haskell, all of which have
thriving programming language oriented conferences all
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 08:08 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
>
> This questioning of iOS is so removed from reality that it makes
> me question if you are qualified to comment on this matter at
> all. iOS is the largest consumer software platform that is still
> growing, as i
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 06:54:26 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sat, 2018-12-22 at 13:46 +, Joakim via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
Given that this conference format is dying off, is there any
explanation for why the D team wants to continue this
antiquated ritual?
https://ma
On Sat, 2018-12-22 at 13:46 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>
[…]
> Given that this conference format is dying off, is there any
> explanation for why the D team wants to continue this antiquated
> ritual?
>
> https://marco.org/2018/01/17/end-of-conference-era
> http://subfurthe
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 22:13:44 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 12/22/2018 6:26 AM, Atila Neves wrote:
If you don't like conferences you don't have to go. I for one
am excited about being in London in May. Please don't sour it
for other who think/feel like I do.
That's right. And hefti
On 12/22/2018 7:11 AM, Joakim wrote:
I've never been to DConf
I suggest actually attending and seeing for yourself.
On 12/22/2018 6:26 AM, Atila Neves wrote:
If you don't like conferences you don't have to go. I for one am excited about
being in London in May. Please don't sour it for other who think/feel like I do.
That's right. And hefting a pint with Atila is guaranteed to be a highlight of
the conferenc
On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 23:00, Adam Wilson via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
>
> On 12/22/18 10:47 AM, Robert M. Münch wrote:
> > On 2018-12-22 12:18:25 +, Mike Parker said:
> >
> >> Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London! We're
> >> still ironing out the details, but I've b
On 12/22/2018 5:33 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
it's on at the exact same time as DevoxxUK 2019 which is at the
Business Design Centre. :-(
Please inform DevoxxUK they need to shift their schedule.
On 12/22/18 10:47 AM, Robert M. Münch wrote:
On 2018-12-22 12:18:25 +, Mike Parker said:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London! We're
still ironing out the details, but I've been sitting on this for weeks
and, now that we have a venue, I just can't keep quiet about it
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 18:47:40 UTC, Robert M. Münch
wrote:
On 2018-12-22 12:18:25 +, Mike Parker said:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London!
We're still ironing out the details, but I've been sitting on
this for weeks and, now that we have a venue, I just c
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 17:13:06 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
We like the current format and see no need to change it at this
time.
That's all it really comes down to. Y'all like it.
But the time and money COULD be put to far better use. Consider
this: keep the same schedule, but the talk
On 2018-12-22 12:18:25 +, Mike Parker said:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London! We're still
ironing out the details, but I've been sitting on this for weeks and,
now that we have a venue, I just can't keep quiet about it any longer.
Hi, you should consider the upco
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:57:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
As I recall, you largely agreed with me:
That is true, and I still do regarding many points (though not
all). But this is not the point I wanted to make. I don't
consider my opinion that important. I simply wanted to point out
why
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 17:36:08 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo
wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:57:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:35:27 UTC, Johannes Loher
wrote:
Also I don't think this is the right place for this
discussion. If you feel that we indeed need
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:57:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:35:27 UTC, Johannes Loher
wrote:
Also I don't think this is the right place for this
discussion. If you feel that we indeed need to rediscuss this
issue, I think it should be done in a separate thre
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 17:13:06 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:57:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I'm not trying to discuss it with you or the community. I'm
asking the D team who're making this decision why it's being
made, despite all the reasoning in that thread
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:57:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I'm not trying to discuss it with you or the community. I'm
asking the D team who're making this decision why it's being
made, despite all the reasoning in that thread, and reiterating
that it's a bad move. I suspect they're not thin
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:35:27 UTC, Johannes Loher
wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 15:11:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 14:26:29 UTC, Atila Neves
wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 13:46:39 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 12:18
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 15:11:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 14:26:29 UTC, Atila Neves
wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 13:46:39 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 12:18:25 UTC, Mike Parker
wrote:
The egregious waste of time and resourc
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 14:26:29 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 13:46:39 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 12:18:25 UTC, Mike Parker
wrote:
The egregious waste of time and resources of this DConf format
strongly signals that D is not a seri
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 13:46:39 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 12:18:25 UTC, Mike Parker
wrote:
The egregious waste of time and resources of this DConf format
strongly signals that D is not a serious effort to build a used
language,
It's the same signal being
On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 12:18:25 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London!
We're still ironing out the details, but I've been sitting on
this for weeks and, now that we have a venue, I just can't keep
quiet about it any longer.
I've updated t
Brilliant, DConf comes to the UK, I can get to it…
except…
it's on at the exact same time as DevoxxUK 2019 which is at the
Business Design Centre. :-(
--
Russel.
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Thanks to Symmetry Investments, DConf is heading to London! We're
still ironing out the details, but I've been sitting on this for
weeks and, now that we have a venue, I just can't keep quiet
about it any longer.
I've updated the DConf site and published a blog post, but I ask
that you please
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