These don't seem so bad from a IxD stand point. I didn't fail to
find what I was pretending to look for. I understood what did what
and got what I expected when I picked things.
There wasn't anything overly annoying, like being forced to pick
where I live just to see the sites. Although, in the
yup, I'll agree w/that.
On Mar 28, 2009, at 9:15 PM, Jon Kolko wrote:
I think we both agree that design is about purpose and process –
about doing something systematically, and attending to the craft and
detail of the result.
Cheers!
Todd Zaki Warfel
Principal Design Researcher
I fInally got to read Jesse's talk in its entirety. This is
brilliant. This is how leaders speak. It spanks and critiques... but
it presents vision, and challenge. And while it is very frank about
short comings and under utilized opportunities... it open minded,
humble, and optimistic.
This is an honest question. What are some of the non-software things
that you all see interaction designers doing?
It might be a bit 'out there' for your tastes, but currently I am
designing a ruleset for a physical (wholly analog) game that when
played will result in an opera-like performance.
Mark, it was how a leader speaks, it was *brilliant*, it was *thought
provoking*, it was *inspiring*. It made me (and many others I think)
finally feel like we're all part of something bigger. It made me
(and others) start to realize the potential if we all worked
together.
I wanted to try and
On Mar 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Christopher Fahey wrote:
I've yet to meet a person who didn't think DUX was one of the most
absurd conferences on the docket. To be a speaker at DUX, you must
submit a 16-page draft of your presentation. It's ludicrous.
Then, after you submit 16-page papers,
On combining the lists:
Ok, this is silly beyond belief. And I can't believe I'm going to
give the IA lecture here.
Membership to a list is metadata. it is a filtering system. There is
nothing preventing you from opening your filter wider and saying I
want all the messages. It's just virtual.
Mark Richard,
much of the content of the talk was spot on.
he lost me at his mis-information about what went down between IAS
and IxDA this year. He mis-represented IxDA completely and demonized
the organization totally unnecessarily. His point was clear w/o doing
that, and he lost my respect
Dave, you're taking this very personally and emotionally (something
you accused me of doing!). None of this has been directed at you and
at no time did I walk in and claim the IxDA should be ended.
You want to keep the filter of people? Does that mean if all of the
IAI members just joined IxDA
Dave, you're right - some of what JJG said was inflammatory. Please
though - lets try and look past the exact words used and some of the
negative context at the message itself. We all care about the same
thing and use related techniques and approaches to fix it.
Lets take a leaf from Obama's book
If you read some of the messages here and also the speech, one can have
the impression that there is a war going on. A silly one.
To me, IxDA is the greatest UX community that exists today.
But that's not due to separation and exclusiveness, but because of its
broadness and openness.
It's just
On Mar 29, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Richard Dalton wrote:
I don't buy Dan's assertion that the IxDA list is mainly
about IxDA - so I did a little analysis on the July messages (I
picked July because it had a lot of messages - 196 in total), here is
the breakdown:
Job 53
Event 38
Interfaces
Hi Dave,
Admittedly I kind of ignored that digression, not knowing much about
the issue, and frankly not caring to know. Which is not at all meant
to trivialize that part of the conversation... its just not mine.
I know there is some old and apparently deep division amongst the two
Dan, you said On the IxDA list, the topics may occasionally be
stupid and redundant, but at least for the most part they are focused
on interaction design specific issues.
My point is not that the majority of those 196 are off-topic, far
from it, my point is that they're mostly about *more* than
If the solution involves someone like myself removing themselves from the
community just give me the word as long as all my posts are deleted upon my
removing myself.
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Currently, some customer research (I'm a psychologist by training so
have a lot of experience measuring various things about people).
Previously, I also
* helped to design educational tools (though delivered with software,
the aim was to get general practitioners participating fully on an
Is that list still around.
On Mar 29, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Dan Saffer wrote:
It would be interesting to do the same tally with a month of SIG-IA.
Cheers!
Todd Zaki Warfel
Principal Design Researcher
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Thanks to folks for responding on this question.
*Behavior is Our Medium*
I watched the presentation by Robert Fabricant. It was interesting, very
reminiscent of some themes in *interactions* lately.
Social engineering has been around for a long time now. Using psychology
as a tool to shape
How synchronous, I was just about to comment on how I am attempting to
convert my bathroom hallway in to a recording area. I noticed when I shut
both entryway doors it is pitch black in there. So, I decided to get some
lights, some sound sensor lights ( totally off subject, any recommendations
Re: the debate over whether experience can be designed:
Jon Kolko wrote:
If I claim to design a rollercoaster, I intend for it to be
duplicated -
exactly as I created - over and over.
If I claim to design the experience of using the rollercoaster, it
follows
that I intend for that use to
Christopher,
Very nice, thoughtful response. Thanks for taking the time.
I completely agree with this:
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I can agree that an experience is a personal thing that can no more be
designed than love can be architected or happiness blueprinted. But we *can*
create the affordances that suggest,
I'm working on a product design, under pretty intense time/money/team
pressure, using Visio for design sketches. I picked Visio because I've used
it since version 1.0 (maybe I was even a beta tester, can't remember back
that far) and am fairly expert with it. I can work fast and get lots done,
and
Humble recommendation to look up Visio libraries, all over the internets.
It will help with literally thousand pre-made shapes, concepts,
connectors and other
elements to help accent your Visio experience.
I usually use Omnigraffle, so it's been a while since I've used Visio
and can't address
I hate the word designer, because when people use it, they think web
designer i.e. colors, icons, shapes, and not necessarily interactions
or social engineering. I think interior designer, website designer,
graphic designer, which quite honestly, I think we sit above that.
I like Experience
Here's my most honest, undefensive take.
IxD is emergent through the new application of artificial
intelligences found by applying silicon chips to devices. Objects
started to have a level of complexity that required new thinking,
methods, and practices. They even required a new way of thinking
Patrick, just to give you a sense that it depends
Here at SCAD the industrial designers look at the architects as
being way too into form (beauty for its own sake). here deigners are
seen as solutioneers who put why? before what? in their work.
-- dave
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Throughout all of this, what's most disconcerting is that a few people
who represent the early interests of these different communities
continue to operate as the primary voices of leadership, though their
perspectives are not shared by the broader communities they claim to
represent (at
Sorry you¹re having trouble I¹ve never had that particular problem, but
sure I will, someday.
I¹ve used Guui¹s Visio widgets and Nick Finck¹s excellent Visio tools with
success.
Fireworks is a good at wireframing, especially if since it¹s got a range of
XP widgets already built in. Also with
Here's a different way of looking at it depends...
From LA Craigslist Ad:
We are looking for a talented web designer...We offer a flexible
schedule, $14 per hour...
...
I never, ever see that $14 per hour number next to the word
Architect. Or, show this to your ID's, and ask them if $14 per
When I said:
Thankfully, the membership demonstrates far more sense than the
leadership.
I did not mean the current leadership of the IAI or IxDA. From what
I've seen (which, admittedly, isn't much), current leadership gets
it more often than not.
--peter
On Mar 29, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Jon Kolko wrote:
==
I can agree that an experience is a personal thing that can no
more be
designed than love can be architected or happiness blueprinted. But
we *can*
create the affordances that suggest, coax, and guide users towards
experiences we designers
Patrick: For most of us, we build things that have an impact on the
bottom line of a company, and that's all (or since when did a web
widget save someone's life?).
At least I have that boast ;-) (helping towards the design of safer
commercial aircraft cockpits and enabling doctors to learn about
Peter,
That was just a continuation of the piece of Jesse's message that is
beyond out of line.
What's worse it is fraught with misinformation and spewing toxicity
in the middle of what actually could be a fruitful conversation.
Whatever you think you know about the people in IxDA, you really
As a project-of-love, I'm going to try to construct a shadow-puppet
theater that's user-driven based
on fabric screens with lights projeccted upon them, and carved/cut
shaped images that people can use to create storylines. I'm still
figuring out the materials and flow of this project, but I hope
I find the idea that experience design is somehow not valid because you
can't design experiences to be a red herring at best, and a canard at
worst. Our community has no other accepted term to address the breadth that
experience design discovers, with the possible exception of design, but
Dave,
I think Peter's referring to the web team, which, for IDEA
Interaction10 is pretty similar.
I'd call that something to be proud of.
Russ
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A project-of-love!
ha, that rules.
Make one argyle and douse it in patroli oil, hippies love that sh*t!
I went to an art show out in the OC last night to support this chiq I work
with, custom jewelry organic meets industrial design. The band had
projections cast on them from different
actually in ID circles, Product Design has been widely accepted as a
synonym.
but is your point, Peter, that we just gotta hang our hat somewhere
and any label will do? a rose by any other name ...
And being semantically correct isn't important now?
Just asking for clarification.
-- dave
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patchouli http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=patchouli
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Patrick,
re: the $14/hr.
is it the title that is the value, or the tasks assigned under it. If
you did the same tasks under web architect, would it gain you more? is
there some magic here, I'm missing?
highest rate of pay I ever had was with the title designer. Lowest
rate of pay was with the
not sure why it is something to be proud of.
It's nice, but it is also sorta random to say 3 or 4 people is a
trend worthy of analysis, but I'll leave the stats to @docbaty. ;-)
-- dave
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It most unfortunate that the level of discourse on this subject has fallen
so low as to include squishy defensive pseudo-innuendo. Because, up until
this post, the conversation has been conducted in a spirited and oddly
compelling manner. This has been one of the more subtle and slightly sneaky
Hi folks,
I read the transcript of JJG's keynote with a combination of
admiration and dismay -- certainly I was eager to consume the facts
after seeing the Twitter firestorm.
I admire his call for people to come together from the various UX
communities. Personally, I strongly agree that a
Dude, I feel your pain. I made a similar transition to Fireworks two years
ago and it was like seeing the light of God. Stuff to try while you get
tooled up for Fireworks:
- Use Background Pages instead of layers. Not sure how you're structuring
your layers, but I tend to start with common
Carl,
Did you read the definitions on the page that Adam pointed you to?
You have been citing an outdated definition with all the harping on
the dialogs word.
Our home page says: Interaction Design (IxD) defines the structure
and behavior of interactive products and services. Interaction
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