Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-15 Thread Mark Lanctot
icdsgnr;252692 Wrote: I noticed my Onkyo receiver has a digital remote input/ output connection on the back. Presumably I could control the receiver and anything daisy chained to the receiver thru this port. I'm not sure if this is Onkyo propriatery but it would be nice to have the SB4

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-05 Thread Michael Herger
SB's make great networked pickups for IR signals to control anything in your house. So what you really want isn't a SB without display, but some intelligent IR receiver... Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-05 Thread Peter
Michael Herger wrote: SB's make great networked pickups for IR signals to control anything in your house. So what you really want isn't a SB without display, but some intelligent IR receiver... Yeah, I'd like that as well as (not instead of) the blind SB. Preferable I'd have a

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-05 Thread Peter
reverber wrote: oreillymj;254190 Wrote: ...so most mornings, the ipod just plays the first track alphabetically. ABBA first thing in the morning, every morning, is not a good vibe. It's better than Sonny and Cher's I Got You Babe ;) :) Regards, Peter

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-05 Thread erland
Peter;254411 Wrote: I'd have a whole modular SB setup. Ethernet, audio, IR, display and amplifier fitting together like Lego bricks ;) Or even a separate display that communicates with the rest of the device over IP/ethernet. Could come in handy for a lot of those whole house

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-05 Thread saurus
liam.whiteside;252648 Wrote: If Pinnacle can produce something like the Soundbridge for £40, and the various network video players (including all singing games consoles) are under £200 - then a Squeezebox looks rather over priced. Well, the manufacture quality is not the best. And if you

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-05 Thread saurus
thomsens;253325 Wrote: However, this product has a dependency that Slimdevices continue to support the current OS market. With the usage of Perl and MySQL which are non-closed source either I cannot see any OS dependency. This is the trick why it works on all mainstream OS. But I would see a

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread funkstar
SoundBoy;253652 Wrote: I like the idea of a SqueezPictureFrame for SB4 - also, pack more horsepower and memory into the SB4, so the server is running in the SB4. All this server running on NAS/computer will be obsolete. That really isn't going to happen. It would certainaly make the largest

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread oreillymj
Personally, my SB3 is on to play music, not look at the screen. The VFD with the analog (needle) display is fantastic. All I'd look for in an SB4 is a bit more horsepower to decode DTS/AC3 converted to Flacs at their highest compression rating. And more memory to cache more of these files.

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread Zten
I think wireless-n support would be good, but for me, the reason I keep coming back to the Slim website every few weeks, is becuase I keep hoping for a version with a dramatically upgraded display technology. The scrolling flourescent green/blue seems so '80s or '90s What it needs is a 7 to

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread Zten
I guess it may be approaching Apple TV, but unlike Apple TV, this would be GOOD! :o) -- Zten Zten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1810 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread reverber
oreillymj;254190 Wrote: ...so most mornings, the ipod just plays the first track alphabetically. ABBA first thing in the morning, every morning, is not a good vibe. It's better than Sonny and Cher's I Got You Babe ;) Cody -- reverber

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread bigfool1956
I suspect Zten is secretly hankering after an AppleTV :) -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread 4mula1
It's really difficult to try to come up with improvements to the SB3. I'm not an audiophile and my ears will never let me be one, so I'm quite content with the sound as it is. I also understand why SD picked a VFD over an LCD, which is the right decision IMO. My one complaint is the fact that

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread jmourik
I'd just like to see a slightly improved and up-to-date sb4. Maybe with 24/96 support, now that HD becomes more popular. I'm sure the Slim techies would have some other tweaks they'd like to make too. And then they can sell the sb3 at Wal-Mart for $150 :-) -- jmourik

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread 4mula1
jmourik;254229 Wrote: And then they can sell the sb3 at Wal-Mart for $150 :-) While I'd like to see more mass market adoption of the Squeezebox, shudder I don't think I'm ready for that one. Well, the $150 did sound good... -- 4mula1 SlimServer 6.5.4 + Solaris 10 x86: Because Linux

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread Mnyb
To repeat myself from the beggining of the tread 24 /96 support would ice it, possibly multichannel 24/96 as such things do exist and it's not a gimmick. I'm happy with the VFD and size, but i would love the jive remote as I'm old fashoned in that way that i regognize my records by the way they

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread Pale Blue Ego
I would like for the SB4 to have: * - full-width case using a wider VFD for less scrolling * - improved DAC with full 24/96 support * - better power supply and standard IEC C14 plug * - larger memory buffer, faster DSP engine Basically, a standard-width form-factor and some incremental

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread thing-fish
Mnyb;252388 Wrote: make it handle 24/96 at the digital out, don't waste more on analog side i don't use that this will sure do it for me. And I go the exact other way. Give me a $50 unit with a non-VFD display, stereo headphone and RCA in the back. Then I'll buy one for every room in the

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread morris_minor
I'd like to see a remote control with a display mirroring that of the SB, since my listening position is too far away for me to read the SB display - even with the big text option . . . -- morris_minor morris_minor's

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread Nostromo
Well there's the Jive remote coming up... Someone mentioned the Squeezebox Duet in the French forums. Its supposed to be a Squeezebox, with the Jive remote, but without the VFD screen. -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile:

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread Peter
I'd like to see a cheaper 'blind' version of the SB as well (with IR please). With a matching T-Amp like AMP built in that's switched on and off by the SB hardware. Also (since I just bought myself a PoE switch) I'd like to see the SB4 having the option to be powered over ethernet. I'll pay to get

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread Michael Herger
I'd like to see a cheaper 'blind' version of the SB as well (with IR IR remote? How would you control a device without any visual feedback? I must be missing something :-). Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-04 Thread Peter
Michael Herger wrote: I'd like to see a cheaper 'blind' version of the SB as well (with IR IR remote? How would you control a device without any visual feedback? I must be missing something :-). I use my SB's to control my MythTV setup (with my Lirc plugin). The visual feedback is

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-03 Thread cliveb
EnochLight;253674 Wrote: For me, it just seems like the Jive controller has been in hardware/software development hell and eternal lasting beta testing since time began. It's a complicated development, and getting it right takes time. EnochLight;253674 Wrote: I just want that thing to come

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-03 Thread JimC
ModelCitizen;252874 Wrote: I think the most important thing is that I *can* hack the menus! The simplicity of my menu arrangements reflects my own (perhaps limited) usage of the wide range of functions/services provided by the SB3. Anyway, for what it's worth my public SB3 Remote top level

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-03 Thread gw43
erland;252820 Wrote: I'm not sure about double the value, but if I rephrase the question to: What would make you upgrade to a SB4 or other SB related devices ? It would look something like: 1. Improved audio circuits. I'm using the analogue outputs from the SB and it currently

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-02 Thread trikisan
I case it hasn't been stated elsewhere, please keep the current SB3 around as Legacy product. -- trikisan trikisan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13061 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-02 Thread SoundBoy
Squeeznetwork/Internet radio and RSS feeds are the main reason I bought two SB3 - streaming music works for me too - but heck, I prefer my ITunes Server/Nokia 770 remote for doing that. I like the idea of a SqueezPictureFrame for SB4 - also, pack more horsepower and memory into the SB4, so the

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-02 Thread EnochLight
For me, it just seems like the Jive controller has been in hardware/software development hell and eternal lasting beta testing since time began. I just want that thing to come to market, like yesterday! I'm not that fond of the name Jive as a product name, though. Please tell me that's just

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2008-01-01 Thread radish
thomsens;253325 Wrote: Squeezenetwork and integration of other services is a fairly significant capability to lose. For you, maybe. I never use it (and I'm sure I'm not alone). Also, you never know when that next Windows update will break SC with no one there to fix it if development

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-31 Thread ModelCitizen
JimC;252796 Wrote: Would you mind sharing what changes you made to the menus the your friends find easier? It's always good to hear what works out in the field. -= Jim I think the most important thing is that I *can* hack the menus! The simplicity of my menu arrangements reflects my own

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread liam . whiteside
Personally I'm amazed at how Logitech have kept the price of the Squeezebox3 so high! And I'm even more amazed that so many people seem to be talking about having bought 'another 3' etc. Sounds like there are lots of people with lots of money about! (if anyone wants to donate one to me...) If

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread icdsgnr
What would double the SB's value for you? I noticed my Onkyo receiver has a digital remote input/ output connection on the back. Presumably I could control the receiver and anything daisy chained to the receiver thru this port. I'm not sure if this is Onkyo propriatery but it would be nice to

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread mintjaman
what a load of cobblers the photography teacher comes out with ! If we all stuck with what we had nothing would be developed, all companies have ongoing R D which is funded by us the consumers and if we all took the stance of the photography tutor he would be still using a pin hole camera. I

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread fred7
liam.whiteside;252648 Wrote: Personally I'm amazed at how Logitech have kept the price of the Squeezebox3 so high! And I'm even more amazed that so many people seem to be talking about having bought 'another 3' etc. Sounds like there are lots of people with lots of money about! (if

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread snarlydwarf
mintjaman;252719 Wrote: what a load of cobblers the photography teacher comes out with ! Indeed, especially since the best way to learn to take pictures is to take tons of them, money is no object! Which is actually possible with digital cameras... If we all stuck with what we had nothing

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread ModelCitizen
liam.whiteside;252648 Wrote: Personally I'm amazed at how Logitech have kept the price of the Squeezebox3 so high! If Pinnacle can produce something like the Soundbridge for £40, and the various network video players (including all singing games consoles) are under £200 - then a Squeezebox

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread JimC
ModelCitizen;252734 Wrote: I used the Pinnacle Home for about 2 mins.. got pretty close to nowhere. I can give my friends the SB3 remote (or better still the Jive remote) and they get it in seconds (Caveat: I have hacked the menus around a lot though) Would you mind sharing what changes you

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread Mitch Harding
I don't know if any of these things would double the value for me, but there are some things that I'd like to see in the next generation product. First, though, I wouldn't want to lose any of the current features. Some have said they'd like to see the analog stage removed, but I like having that

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread thomsens
The simple answer on price is that they are selling enough at the current price to keep it there. Just because they can lower it doesn't mean they should. I'm sure there will be a market for standalone music players for years to come, but eventually there will be so many options (some of them

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread Mitch Harding
Even if SD goes away, your Transporter will do what it has always done, minus Squeezenetwork possibly. You won't get new SS/SC versions, but presumably their current functionality satisfies you or you wouldn't have bought one. I guess you'd have to worry about eventual hardware failure and

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread erland
Michael Herger;252336 Wrote: What would double the SB's value for you? I'm not sure about double the value, but if I rephrase the question to: What would make you upgrade to a SB4 or other SB related devices ? It would look something like: 1. Improved audio circuits. I'm using the

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-30 Thread ModelCitizen
erland;252820 Wrote: 1. Improved audio circuits. I'm using the analogue outputs from the SB and it currently doesn't sound as good as my old Arcam Alpha 7 SE CD-player. I think adding better audio ciruits/DAC and double the price would make me upgrade. Improving the audio quality is the

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-29 Thread Mnyb
make it handle 24/96 at the digital out, don't waste more on analog side i don't use that this will sure do it for me. If you realy want to make me part with double the money(or more) :-) Then it should handle 5.1-7.1 24/96 music, prefered output multipple spdif's 3 or 4 (2ch per spdif) and hdmi

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-29 Thread Robin Bowes
Michael Herger wrote: (twice as good and half the price) What would double the SB's value for you? Value = (Quality / Price) ** 2 ? Interesting. ;) R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-29 Thread OffBeatMammal
I hope it keeps some basic analog out - I use the SB3 in the home gym to drive Logitech Z4s and with Digital only I'd be rather stuck for that scenario! Would like to see some sort of speaker control (eg so I can power on/off the Z4 automatically with the SB, or power up, if needed, the Z-5500

[slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-28 Thread rougeears
I would love to buy a SB3 but see that the release is now 2 years past and think I should wait for a SB4. Can anyone advise? -- rougeears rougeears's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14670 View

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-28 Thread snarlydwarf
An ex of mine took a photography class where the teacher insisted that digital cameras were a total waste of money: you buy them and within a year there is something new and better, so you should just spend $400 on a film camera and film so you don't waste money on that digital stuff. I am sure

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-28 Thread ceejay
snarlydwarf;252292 Wrote: Does the Squeezebox3 do what you need it to do? Then buy it. If it doesn't, then don't. Technology always improves, so all you do is deprive yourself of enjoyment and functionality in the present. While this principle is of course sound, it remains the case

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-28 Thread Michael Herger
(twice as good and half the price) What would double the SB's value for you? Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?

2007-12-28 Thread Peter
Michael Herger wrote: (twice as good and half the price) What would double the SB's value for you? Well according to the Jive interface it should have a button on the front... (try Setup Squeezebox) I see the SB as just a component in my media network and it seems to be doing