Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-11 Thread MeSue
Okay, looks like all my stats are synced up now. I understand about filters and using them as a mix base, but I can only define which filter to be used in the SC Web interface, right? There's no way to have the player prompt me for the filter when a mix is created, is there? What do the rest

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-11 Thread Phil Meyer
I understand about filters and using them as a mix base, but I can only define which filter to be used in the SC Web interface, right? There's no way to have the player prompt me for the filter when a mix is created, is there? Yes there is (for SB PlayerUI - not sure what happens on an SBC). In

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-11 Thread MeSue
Philip Meyer;348985 Wrote: In the MusicIP settings, you can set Player settings for each mix to Yes. Then, when you hold down play button, you get to select Mix Size, Style, Variety, etc. From that menu you can also select the Mix Filter. Ah, thanks. I see it now when I use the buttons

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-10 Thread Phil Meyer
Right... but I'm trying to do validation via the headless server (to avoid overwriting the cache from SC), and it seems the headless server has no knowledge of those exclusions which were set in the desktop version. Oh, I understand your issue now. I haven't noticed that behaviour myself, but I

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-10 Thread Phil Meyer
Phil, is (has?) this enhancement going to be implemented as part of SC is it going to remain a patch? It has been applied to 7.3. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-10 Thread MeSue
Well... after 2 nights and a full day of validating songs on my HP server, it has still done less than 1,000 songs. Last night I installed MIP on my quad core desktop, pointed it to the same music, set it to use 3 cores, and let it analyze overnight. This morning, it's done! I knew the desktop

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-10 Thread exile
once you get past the scanning process, the fun will finally begin. I've been running MusicIP for quite some time now on my system and it does work very well and consistently without crashes. Also, all of the benefits of dynamic playlists can be utilized within MusicIP. All you need to do is set

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Herger
I'm sure some folks here would disagree, but I found the MusicIP install (at least on Mac OS) very awkward and unstable. I'm no expert, but I think quite a bit of the bad reputation they have for crashing is due to the Java UI used in earlier versions on non-Windows systems (not sure they

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread Phil Meyer
Thanks. I stopped analysis in MIP, closed it, and am currently running the Custom Scan export. When it finishes, I will resume the MIP analysis/validation or whatever it was doing. You can do the export and validate at the same time, BUT only if you are using the same application to access the

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread Phil Meyer
Okay, I got MIP installed and running headless. I don't know why it is saying it has to validate 12,678 tracks when I had archived analysis when I used it before. I know those aren't all newly added songs since I last used it. Or is validation different from analysis? No, it's the same thing. I

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread MeSue
Thanks for all the great explanations. I think I have it pretty much under control now... just waiting for validation. After I did the custom scan export, I switched to the headless Web UI to resume validation. But there it reports around 2,000 more tracks requiring validation compared to the

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread MeSue
MeSue;348313 Wrote: After I did the custom scan export, I switched to the headless Web UI to resume validation. But there it reports around 2,000 more tracks requiring validation compared to the MIP GUI. Wonder why? I think I figured this out. In the desktop version it excludes things like

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread Phil Meyer
After I did the custom scan export, I switched to the headless Web UI to resume validation. But there it reports around 2,000 more tracks requiring validation compared to the MIP GUI. Wonder why? Did you save the MIP GUI and then reload the cache in Headless web UI before the custom scan export,

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread MeSue
Philip Meyer;348492 Wrote: Did you save the MIP GUI and then reload the cache in Headless web UI before the custom scan export, or any other activity in SC? eg. playing a song would pass a new playcount to MIP and therefore overwrite the cache? Yes, and all my Squeezeboxes were idle the

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread Phil Meyer
I think the extra 2000 songs reported by the Headless Web page are podcasts and audio books - the number seems about right. Any way to exclude these from validation? In MIP application, File Preferences Exclusions, you can enter exclusions for adding songs to the library (eg. don't add songs

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread egd
Philip Meyer;348146 Wrote: I didn't like the way that the MusicIP plugin messed with the content of my SC library, so I changed the plugin. With my patch, it's possible to configure it so that it only uses MIP to determine if a track is mixable; i.e. it won't then read the MIP library tags

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-09 Thread MeSue
Philip Meyer;348502 Wrote: In MIP application, File Preferences Exclusions, you can enter exclusions for adding songs to the library (eg. don't add songs where the genre is Podcast, or where the music library starts with M:\Music\iTunes\, etc). You can also allow the songs to be added

[slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread MeSue
I gave up on MusicIP a while back for a few reasonsÂ… one, because it always seemed to cause weirdness in my music library, like albums listed twice with songs split between the two listings and rescans took forever. Another reason is that I have a lot of music in my library that I don't care to

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread MeSue
I was looking at Custom Scan options. Would the MusicIP Statistics Export in Custom Scan keep my ratings in sync with MIP automatically? -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile:

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread bonze
Gave up on MusicIP myself a while back. Seems like a good idea, but the mixes it gave were just 'weird' Jumped from Gary Numan Celine Dion ABBA, and whatever I changed didn't seem to make the slightest bit of difference. -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.3 - 23415 3 x

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread esbrewer
I'm sure some folks here would disagree, but I found the MusicIP install (at least on Mac OS) very awkward and unstable. It crashed constantly (more than any piece of software I've ever used) when making the original scan, and never seemed to pickup on new tracks that had been added to my

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread Phil Meyer
I gave up on MusicIP a while back for a few reasonsÂ… one, because it always seemed to cause weirdness in my music library, like albums listed twice with songs split between the two listings and rescans took forever. That sounds very fixable. I didn't like the way that the MusicIP plugin messed

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread Phil Meyer
I'm sure some folks here would disagree, but I found the MusicIP install (at least on Mac OS) very awkward and unstable. Seems rock solid on my PC. I have never experienced a crash. never seemed to pickup on new tracks that had been added to my library. That also works fine for me. I suspect it

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread MeSue
Okay, I got MIP installed and running headless. I don't know why it is saying it has to validate 12,678 tracks when I had archived analysis when I used it before. I know those aren't all newly added songs since I last used it. Or is validation different from analysis? Sounds like Custom Scan may

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread erland
Philip Meyer;348146 Wrote: I find that the MIP libarary is automatically fed ratings set from SC (via TrackStat). I must admit that I don't know how this happens (is this via MusicIP plugin or TrackStat or CustomScan?). The first time I used CustomScan to export ratings to MusicIP.

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread MeSue
So I would personally wait until the validation had finished, and I would then also completely restart MusicIP to make sure the validation result have been written to the cache before I try to export ratings. Thanks. I stopped analysis in MIP, closed it, and am currently running the Custom

Re: [slim] I'm tempted to try MusicIP again, but...

2008-10-08 Thread MeSue
MeSue;348168 Wrote: Is your patch publicly available? Never mind.. found it, got it installed. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View