Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-25 Thread Rambaud
mortslim;200900 Wrote: Well, I just mentioned the solution a few days ago on this specific forum but here it is again: For those audiophiles who want the cleanest sound possible when connecting to powered speakers, I found a little product that balances the signal when converting from

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-11 Thread Skunk
Balthazar_B;201104 Wrote: Here are some I have considered, or am considering: Another user posted this link to a review of the powered Quad 11L monitors*, which I happened to remember seeing a show sample pair deal on Audiogon**. * http://www.whats-new-at-totallywired.com/march2007news.html

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-11 Thread Balthazar_B
I'm not sure I'd call an online article from a retailer a review, exactly :). BTW, I believe Quads and Wharfedales are made of the same components, mostly, by the same Chinese firm (both Quad and Wharfedale, as well as a number of other venerable brands, were sold to the Chinese some while

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-11 Thread Balthazar_B
Eric Seaberg;201171 Wrote: If you follow the link I posted in my original reply, you will find an answer to your question. I did read that blurb, but it didn't mention the manufacturer/model of the DAC, only its specs, which are very like many DACs: The digital audio input accepts a

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-11 Thread Skunk
Balthazar_B;201244 Wrote: I'm not sure I'd call an online article from a retailer a review, exactly :). Well you can hardly trust anything you read online anyway. Whenever someone gets something new it sounds fabulous. There are a lot of reviews of the 11L, and I trust the retailer that the

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-11 Thread Skunk
Balthazar_B;201246 Wrote: I did read that blurb, but it didn't mention the manufacturer/model of the DAC, only its specs, which are very like many DACs: So you are actually more interested in the make+model of the DAC chip than the fact that it's inside a speaker and next to an amplifier?

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-11 Thread Eric Seaberg
Balthazar_B;201246 Wrote: Based on the specs, I'm guessing that they might benefit from some bottom reinforcement. I wish they weren't S-P/DIF only, but I'll think a bit about them (Genelec's new 8240A/8250A models with more flexible digital inputs seem VERY nice, but it would be a choice

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-11 Thread Balthazar_B
Eric, very clever setup. I imagine you've optimized their placement in your bedroom. How's the low end on those monitors? Do you sometimes find yourself wishing for bass reinforcement, either with music from you SB or whatever from your TV? -- Balthazar_B

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-11 Thread Eric Seaberg
Yes, I do wish for more bottome end, but they ARE only 5 woofers. It's not my main listening room, but a place where I can listen to whatever I want while falling asleep or waking up or getting ready or watching TV in bed... not a real priority. I figured I could add a sub if necessary, but

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread SuperQ
Balthazar_B;200872 Wrote: I'm thinking a couple of meters per each run would be typical. I do know cases where RF and other nasty noise has gotten into unbalanced runs from preamps to amps, but I'm uncertain how sensitive unbalanced runs from the SB to an active monitor would be (I guess

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Balthazar_B
mortslim: Yes, I recall seeing your earlier message. Thanks for reminding me to check out the cleanbox. SuperQ: I like DynAudio stuff, but their studio monitors are just a bit rich for my blood, especially if I compare value/dollar with other options. The BM 5As are 3x the cost of the Wharfs I

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Kyle
I put together a portable setup similar to what you are considering with an SB3 into Audioengines. I attached handles to the top of the AEs to make them easier to move out onto the deck and even velcroed the SB3 to the top of one of the speakers. To me, they sound great, and it certainly helps

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread cliveb
mortslim;200900 Wrote: For those audiophiles who want the cleanest sound possible when connecting to powered speakers, I found a little product that balances the signal when converting from rca to XLR. It's from ART (Applied Research Technology) and called the Cleanbox (not to be

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread cliveb
Balthazar_B;200833 Wrote: I know several forum members use active monitors, and I'm wondering whether there's any significant downside to using the unbalanced outs from the SB3 for this purpose. For the short interconnect runs you're envisaging, an unbalanced connection should be fine. The

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Pat Farrell
cliveb wrote: mortslim;200900 Wrote: It's from ART (Applied Research Technology) and called the Cleanbox You say it gives the cleanest sound possible, but I'm skeptical. ART and Behringer are price driven designs for entry point folks playing with recording audio. They don't claim to be

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Eric Seaberg
I actually take the Coax S/PDIF out of the SB3 into a pair of Genelec 2029As. You can find them on eBay going for around $600 per pair. Info on this discontinued monitor is at: http://www.genelec.com/products/previous-models/2029a/ -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Balthazar_B
That outlet on the AudioEngines is one of its nice features. It has several other touches that make it nearly ideal when using an iPod as the source, which I considered but came to think my wireless SB would be superior in many ways (not least its connectivity to Internet radio). Some diffs

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread mortslim
attaching handles: this is vague, however if it involves drilling holes, there are two risks: compromising the integrity of the cabinet from an audio perspective if not from a structural perspective in that the audio is based in part on the resonsnce of the cabinet. and also the risk of your

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Kyle
Regarding drilling into the cabinets, I checked with the company to determine the cabinet thickness (20mm or a little more than 3/4 inch) and drilled accordingly. As for resonance, I don't think replacing 3/16ths of an inch of MDF with a metal screw in four spots is going to make that much

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Balthazar_B
Eric Seaberg;201042 Wrote: I actually take the Coax S/PDIF out of the SB3 into a pair of Genelec 2029As. You can find them on eBay going for around $600 per pair. Info on this discontinued monitor is at: http://www.genelec.com/products/previous-models/2029a/ Do you know what kind of DAC

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread mortslim
Here are some examples of REAL speakers: Yamaha (prior generations of these speakres could be found in almost every sound studio in the world) http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/List/ModelSeriesList/0,,CTID%25253D560744%252526CNTYP%25253DGENERAL,00.html M-Audio (owned by the Pro Tools company

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Pat Farrell
mortslim wrote: Here are some examples of REAL speakers: Yamaha (prior generations of these speakres could be found in almost every sound studio in the world) It is true that the Yamaha NS10 are in every studio on the planet. But that does not mean you want to buy them. They are used because

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Balthazar_B
Here are some I have considered, or am considering: Wharfedale 8.2 Pro Active: http://www.wharfedalepro.co.uk/frames/monitor_diamond.html KRK Rockit (budget line): http://www.krksys.com/index2.php?cat=prodlandpage=rokit E-MU (these have occasionally been on sale for as little as $95/ea):

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-10 Thread Eric Seaberg
Balthazar_B;201090 Wrote: Do you know what kind of DAC the 2029A uses? If you follow the link I posted in my original reply, you will find an answer to your question. We have over $40,000 in Genelec monitors throughout our production facilities, 3-pair having digital inputs (S30-D). The

[slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-09 Thread Balthazar_B
I've done several forum searches but didn't quite find what I was looking for... For some measure of portability (e.g., outdoors, in the garage -- in general, anywhere that doesn't merit permanent installation of SB/speakers), I'm looking at picking up a pair of active monitors (leaning towards

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-09 Thread aubuti
My SB connected to active speakers isn't anywhere near Wharfedale class, but I've had no problem with the unbalanced outputs. How long an unbalanced run are talking about, because that can make a huge difference. If it is a long run, I've read some posts from people who used cat5 to make just the

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-09 Thread Balthazar_B
I'm thinking a couple of meters per each run would be typical. I do know cases where RF and other nasty noise has gotten into unbalanced runs from preamps to amps, but I'm uncertain how sensitive unbalanced runs from the SB to an active monitor would be (I guess this would be a line input, no?).

Re: [slim] SB3 into active monitors

2007-05-09 Thread mortslim
Well, I just mentioned the solution a few days ago on this specific forum but here it is again: For those audiophiles who want the cleanest sound possible when connecting to powered speakers, I found a little product that balances the signal when converting from rca to XLR. It's from ART