There are new updates for iPeng and iPeng for iPad on the App store.
Changes are mostly details for the iPad App but iPeng for iPhone is now
no longer compatible with iOS 3.
IPENG FOR IPAD
* No winter hat icon anymore.
* Some stability improvements
IPENG FOR IPHONE
The App is now again on par
Chunkywizard;682330 Wrote:
>
> I just had a play with sharing what I was listening to Facebook. It
> doesn't seem to be working, If I share a track I am playing from my
> local library I get no text inputted into the Facebook window, just a
> sent from iPeng footer. I tried share by email and th
Hi pippin,
I just had a play with sharing what I was listening to Facebook. It
doesn't seem to be working, If I share a track I am playing from my
local library I get no text putted into the Facebook window, just a
sent from iPeng footer. I tried share by email and this is as I would
expect with
pippin Wrote:
> Browser
> * There is now an (internet) browser under "Extras" that you can use to
> browse and play music from web sites on your Squeezebox. I love that I
> can no read music blogs like Stereogum and listen to the stuff they
> link right away
> * Each page driven by a browser (inc
I did the same as it says in the instructions but it took a long time
before the restore previous purchase worked on the iPhone, it works now
though. Thanks.
I like that I now can do almost everything in the iPeng app, it's my
main music controller in this house :)
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Umm. What exactly did you do?
You've got both Ipegn for iPad and iPeng for iPhone, I read. Have you
read the instructions in the "Enable Playback" menu on how you get the
discounted playback?
The playback in the iPad App generally is a different "product" from
the one in the iPhone App by App Sto
I like the new social features and it was something I missed before, I
share music on FB several times a week. I will certainly use the other
social features too :)
I bought the playback option but have only got it to work on the iPad,
do I have to sync both the iPad and the iPhone to iTunes for
New iPeng updates are now available in the App Store.
One thing is that it fixes an annoying crash on startup that some
people experienced after upgrading to Squeezebox Server 7.6.0. There
was a simple workaround but hey, let's better fix it...
To not make it just a boring bugfix, there are also
05mattjax;641629 Wrote:
> Done as you suggested and the artists appear for about a second then all
> disappear, strange. Done it a few times now. More concerned about the
> playback feature. Hopefully its not just me. I will check web
> interface.
Web interface not working correctly either. same
pippin;641611 Wrote:
> Also, please check whether everything works as expected through the web
> interface, sounds like some people are having issues here with 7.5.5.
Done as you suggested and the artists appear for about a second then
all disappear, strange. Done it a few times now. More concer
05mattjax;641606 Wrote:
> Thanks. I updated SBS at the sametime as iPeng, to the latest version
> from the logitech website, on my Netgear ReadyNas Duo. It's 7.5.5.
>
> Will try the reset you suggest and report back. I have definitely
> flushed it since but not force quit it.
Also, please check
pippin;641602 Wrote:
> There's nothing really changed WRT that UNLESS you use an old build of
> Squeezebox Server 7.6 beta.In this case, please update your server SW.
>
> Otherwise, please try "Settings->iPeng Settings->Flush Cache" and
> please restart iPeng after force-quitting it through the
05mattjax;641594 Wrote:
> Following update the artists no longer appear on the artists tab.h I
> have to search via albums only! Also I cant one touch press for a song
> to play anymore. I have to press and hold it. Then choose what I want
> to do. If I do one touch the music stops and the playli
Following update the artists no longer appear on the artists tab.h I
have to search via albums only! Also I cant one touch press for a song
to play anymore. I have to press and hold it. Then choose what I want
to do. If I do one touch the music stops and the playlist clears now -
I dont like that.
soundcheck;641592 Wrote:
>
> On an iPad you don't want to see a boring blue-white PC like surface.
> You want to see a cool & shiny control panel. A mix of squeezepad and
> ipeng plus a little more "coolness" or call it innovative control
> functions.
>
Ah. OK. Wasn't aware that you were referr
No need to defend anything. ;)
I guess I spreaded my message. I don't see any arguments from your side
which would change my mind.
Good to see that you're working on a GUI redesign.
On an iPad you don't want to see a boring blue-white PC like surface.
You want to see a cool & shiny control pan
soundcheck;641551 Wrote:
> Just a comment from my side.
>
Thanks :)
>
> If you'd ask me. I'd say. No I wouldn't need those social media
> functions.
> Probably I'm not in that addressed target group though.
> Lot's of programming effort and money goes into those from my
> perspective rather q
Just a comment from my side.
iPeng is still my reference SB control from a functionality
perspective.
I don't think it has to fear any competition, neither from Squeezepad
nor from Logitech. Those are just copying that IMO basic feature set,
which is all but user-friendly, especially if your co
jimzak;641509 Wrote:
>
> I have the latest version of iPeng for iPad and I can't find any of the
> new social features and your post and website provide no clues.
>
Um..
>
> E-Mail sharing will work immediately but you can also use Twitter or
> Facebook. To do that, iPeng adds a new category
I have to admit I didn't read this entire thread.
I have the latest version of iPeng for iPad and I can't find any of the
new social features and your post and website provide no clues.
I'm sure this stuff is obvious but...please help.
Thanks.
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I love the Wikipedia integration - it works really well! I use Wikipedia
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pippin;641138 Wrote:
> So it went back to iPeng automatically (that's what's needed for the
> authorization to actually work). Which iOS is this? I need to look into
> it, but I believe the change I applied here should fix that, too (it
> will not switch to Safari but present a login popup instea
MeSue;641115 Wrote:
> It says Facebook disabled, and I click the authorize button and it shows
> the message about already authorized, I press okay, and go back to iPeng
> and it still shows disabled. I can go round and round doing that and it
> never changes.
>
> It's not a beta, and it author
ajkidle;641112 Wrote:
> When I share a Rhapsody track on Facebook, shouldn't it also be posting
> the link to that track? It's not. It's just a plain text post. I'm I
> misunderstanding how this is supposed to work, or is something not
> working properly?
I'll have to look that up. Rhapsody o
pippin;641053 Wrote:
> Did you press the "Ok" link at the bottom of that message?
> You don't happen to have a current beta on that device (I remember they
> dont work for you anymore?)
>
> What's the state it shows in the App Gallery setting?
>
> I did something wrong which means it still take
When I share a Rhapsody track on Facebook, shouldn't it also be posting
the link to that track? It's not. It's just a plain text post. I'm I
misunderstanding how this is supposed to work, or is something not
working properly?
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Hi Pippin,
Thanks a restart did the trick!;)
Cheers
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Hi Pippin,
thanks gor getting back to me.
I am sure I am doing something wrong as:
1)I can't find the YouTube search option in the Global Search. Where is
it?;)
2)How can I paste a YouTube link into the plugin?
3)I pasted a YouTube link into the "Tune In" URL but it didn't work.
I would apprecia
Well, then there will be a YouTube search option in the Global Search
and a browse feature under Radios (SBS < 7.6) or "My Apps" (SBS 7.6).
If you have a specific YouTube link you can paste it either into the
plugin or into the "Tune In" URL.
If somebody sends you a link through Facebook or Twitte
Hi Pippin,
Thanks for the great update...good job as usual;)
I am running iPeng on all my apple devices and I must admit that iPeng
on my iPad is simply amazing!I couldn't live without it anymore ;)
Would you please explain me how to stream youtube songs through iPeng?
I have just installed the Yo
Flashbee;641017 Wrote:
> " iPeng now shows an AirPlay control for the iPeng Player if there is an
> AirPlay device on the network, so you don’t have to use the task
> bar four audio routing"
>
> I have Apple TV (latest version) which doesn't appear to be showing on
> ipeng as described in the up
MeSue;641019 Wrote:
> Pippin,
>
> I can't get the Share on Facebook option working on my iPod touch. I
> authorized both Fb and Twitter on my iPad first with iPeng HD, and then
> I did so on my iPod with iPeng. For Facebook, it just takes me to a
> message that says iPeng has already been author
Pippin,
I can't get the Share on Facebook option working on my iPod touch. I
authorized both Fb and Twitter on my iPad first with iPeng HD, and then
I did so on my iPod with iPeng. For Facebook, it just takes me to a
message that says iPeng has already been authorized, but then it does
not show F
" iPeng now shows an AirPlay control for the iPeng Player if there is an
AirPlay device on the network, so you dont have to use the task bar
four audio routing"
I have Apple TV (latest version) which doesn't appear to be showing on
ipeng as described in the update. Has anyone else got this to wo
MeSue;640768 Wrote:
> Pippin, since iPeng seems to have an embedded browser now, why not
> include an address field so we can browse to wherever we want without
> leaving iPeng? Wouldn't that then be a way to use playlist sharing
> sites, etc? (at least in the iPad version.)
>
If we get this, i
Yea, I plan to do that (could you file a ticket anyway?). It's just UI
again which means lots of work and I did not want to delay the release.
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Pippin, since iPeng seems to have an embedded browser now, why not
include an address field so we can browse to wherever we want without
leaving iPeng? Wouldn't that then be a way to use playlist sharing
sites, etc?
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The open.spotify link will work in Tune In, too, it's not the same "tune
in" as in the web interface (anymore).
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pi
)p(;640701 Wrote:
> I think currently you can only do this from the embedded wiki browser.
> From there search for google, click the google.com link and from there
> you can explore links all over the web ;) If you find a valid link
> click on it and ipeng will produce a popup that gives you the
MeSue;640703 Wrote:
> Okay, thanks. Some of the comments in this thread made it sound like
> there was an URL field I should be able to find somewhere.
There is. It's the one in "Radios". It has all the functionality the
link system offers, you can paste a link there.
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)p(;640701 Wrote:
> I think currently you can only do this from the embedded wiki browser.
> From there search for google, click the google.com link and from there
> you can explore links all over the web ;) If you find a valid link
> click on it and ipeng will produce a popup that gives you the
pippin;640448 Wrote:
>
>
> The big thing is being able to play content from a link and to detect
> links in web sites...
Okay, this has me stumped... how do we play content from links through
iPeng? Where do we go to copy and paste the URLs?
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Got the iPhone update this morning in the dutch appstore.
Thnx again pippin & Coolio!
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SB Radio
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pippin;640448 Wrote:
> Note to self: maybe I should add a "play from clipboard" menu
Thanks for these features! I have not used them yet, but I know I will.
Play from clipboard would be awesome.
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It wasn't out, yet, only the iPad version was. Some hiccup with old iOS
versions and then some misunderstanding about the term "Squeezebox
Server 7.6 beta" in the review process.
All resolved now so it should be or become available shortly.
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I'd love to join this debate, but iPeng 1.3.4 does not appear in my
AppStore for upgrade... Has anyone else in the UK had this update? Or
am I alone in missing it...
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I do share music from time to time with my friends. Most of them have
good music taste and thats probably why we got friends anyway. ;)
I also had the difficulties from time to time with sharing spotify
links etc. I have no facebook or twitter account but I really like
these new "sharing" features
I think that is the big difference between us. You want a tool to share
music with friends and easily find music on the web, I only want a
program to control my music system. I am not interested in what music
my friends play. I know they all have a bad taste in music anyway ;)
As long as the remot
Hofstede;640446 Wrote:
> The only thing I ask for is an easy way to hide all references to
> Facebook and Twitter functionality. I am a programmer and I know it
> maybe problematic to do so but asking never hurts anyone.
>
By default, there is only a single place where Facebook and Twitter
funct
Pippin,
At the time I bought iPeng the Logitech app was not available yet. And
your program beats the functionality of the Logitech app by miles.
Don't get me wrong, I really like it.
The term "force" is a bit strong I know but I could not find a better
word for it. I just don't like the way ever
Hofstede;640392 Wrote:
> Am I the only one who doesn't see any use for all that Facebook and
> Twitter functionality?
> I bought the program as a remote control for the Squeezeboxes I own.
> All these extra functions only make the program more complicated and
> more difficult to use.
> It would b
bluegaspode;640410 Wrote:
> So if you don't want to see this in SqueezePad some time in the future
> think about how to promote your favourite product by other means ;)
>
You know, even my local grocery store have a "Like us on Facebook" sign
outside their store (no I'm not kidding). Maybe a "L
> local.bin;640407
And that's 3 hits for the +1 button ;)
Actually I am sure I will find the "share by email" feature useful on
occasion. I feel the FB option less useful, more involved, and I plan
on dropping my little presence on FB down to 0 some time in the
future.
So an iPeng preference
Hofstede;640404 Wrote:
> Personally I removed all things Facebook / Twitter from my Squeezebox
> system long ago. I just don't like things I am not using at all
> cluttering up my system.
> If I want to use Facebook or Twitter there are a lot of options that
> work better than the Squeezebox eco-
Hofstede;640404 Wrote:
> Guess for me it means I will use SqueezePad more often than iPeng. I
> hope Bluegaspode will not get the idea he needs to integrate this
> functionality in his program too
Well - I'm known to not just copy iPeng :)
Though I have to admit that one feature pippin integ
> kidstypike;640397
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pippin;640130 Wrote:
>
> By default it will send the title, artist and album (you can of course
> edit that) and most importantly whenever a link is available that
> can be played (as is the case for services like Spotify, Rhapsody,
> YouTube or radio stations) that link will be sent, too. S
Personally I removed all things Facebook / Twitter from my Squeezebox
system long ago. I just don't like things I am not using at all
cluttering up my system.
If I want to use Facebook or Twitter there are a lot of options that
work better than the Squeezebox eco-system. Now iPeng "forces" this
fu
Hofstede;640392 Wrote:
> Am I the only one who doesn't see any use for all that Facebook and
> Twitter functionality?
> I bought the program as a remote control for the Squeezeboxes I own.
> All these extra functions only make the program more complicated and
> more difficult to use.
>
I tend to
hofstede;640392 Wrote:
> am i the only one who doesn't see any use for all that facebook and
> twitter functionality?
> I bought the program as a remote control for the squeezeboxes i own.
> All these extra functions only make the program more complicated and
> more difficult to use.
> It would b
pippin;640130 Wrote:
>
> iPeng now has a new Context Menu item for the current track and the
> tracks in the current playlist.
>
Is there a reason you don't offer the "Share this..." item in context
menus for tracks in the browse menus ?
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pippin;640383 Wrote:
> No, the Spotify URL entry field is a menu created by the plugin that has
> some Logic behind it. In this case I'd need a way to tell the plugin to
> play an album or I need to retrieve the album content. If the plugin
> can't do it I'll eventually do it anyway :)
>
I suspe
Am I the only one who doesn't see any use for all that Facebook and
Twitter functionality?
I bought the program as a remote control for the Squeezeboxes I own.
All these extra functions only make the program more complicated and
more difficult to use.
It would be nice to have a system setting to h
No, the Spotify URL entry field is a menu created by the plugin that has
some Logic behind it. In this case I'd need a way to tell the plugin to
play an album or I need to retrieve the album content. If the plugin
can't do it I'll eventually do it anyway :)
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pippin;640335 Wrote:
> Yes, that box is an empty menu.
> Could you send me one of the files (a short one, please) that causes
> trouble?
> Any ampersands in there, too? Wait, they should not mean any issue
> here...
How is the best way to send one of my files to you? By e-mail? I don't
seem to b
norderney;640333 Wrote:
> I'm listening to various Jazz tracks from albums I have ripped onto you
> HDD in FLAC, so basically I am just playing back normal FLAC music
> files.
> When I select Share This it brings up a rectangular box with the track
> name at the top and then Share This below it,
bluegaspode;640331 Wrote:
> sorry - i meant landscape.
> it switches to portrait while posting.
Ah. I see. Looks like I have to dig deeper into facebook's code (I did
already change stuff for the pending iPhone release)...
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pippin;640328 Wrote:
> Umm... It doesn't even bring up "share by mail"? Then it's nothing to do
> with the service... Actually it's really strange. What are you listening
> to?
> Sounds like the title information parsing returns something illegal or
> so. It should at least allow you to share Tit
bluegaspode;640327 Wrote:
> posting to facebook doesn't work well in portrait ...
Argh. Did you mean to say "landscape", not "portrait"?
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pippin;640330 Wrote:
> Why not? Can you send me a screen shot?
sorry - i meant landscape.
it switches to portrait while posting.
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bluegaspode;640327 Wrote:
> posting to facebook doesn't work well in portrait ...
Why not? Can you send me a screen shot?
Sometimes the Facebook web dialog gets scrabbled if it doesn't like the
meta information for the link or can't find any (as for napster links),
no idea why that is, it's face
posting to facebook doesn't work well in portrait ...
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Umm... It doesn't even bring up "share by mail"? Then it's nothing to do
with the service... Actually it's really strange. What are you listening
to?
Sounds like the title information parsing returns something illegal or
so. It should at least allow you to share Title, Artist and Album via
Mail, i
pippin;640319 Wrote:
> You need to enable it in the App Gallery under "iPeng Apps"
Thanks for your speedy reply.
I've done this and I'm logged onto Facebook. But how do I share music?
Is it done by selecting Share This on the context menu? I have done
this several times while music is playing
Oops (&). Thanks. Will need to encode the query.
On the Composer: I plan to make this more flexible but starting with
just the composer might indeed be a good idea.
Could you file tickets for these? Sorry, can't post link right now.
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Many thanks for the features in this new update, very useful (imo).
One minor problem with the Wikipedia look-up though, if the search
'string' contains an ampersand ('&'), it cannot read it, or past it.
For example, I searched the song 'For Me & My Gal', and only got
results for 'For Me'.
And a
You need to enable it in the App Gallery under "iPeng Apps"
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)p(;640314 Wrote:
> I think the plugin cant handle those urls correctly when they are passed
> to it directly. When I use the link for an album from an email. It does
> show the artwork. But it looks like it thinks that the album is just
> one track because there is only one item in the playlist.
In order to use Facebook with iPeng do I need to configure anything?
If I press the current playing track it displays a menu with Share
This. If I select Share This it just says Share This... And nothing
else?
In App Gallery under Social Network, if I select Facebook it says
Facebook is already
)p(;640307 Wrote:
> It does only work when you paste the url in the spotify uri field in
> triode's plugin. From your links only the track version works.
Ok, sounds like I need to talk to Triode again.
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I see you've repaired the "switch player" feature, thanks a lot.
I don't use twitter and I'm not too happy with the state of FB (I think
you've done fine, though), I guess I'll see how all this fares under
Google+.
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erland;640242 Wrote:
> Just to better understand this, to make it work with MySB I guess you
> would have to implement it in iPeng, but if we would be satisfied if it
> worked with SBS it would be enough if there was a plugin on the server
> that could interpret spotify:album:xxx and spotify:arti
pippin;640170 Wrote:
>
> On the Spotify albums: yes, I plan to add that but it essentially means
> I have to re-implement the whole Spotify client because the
> Squeezeboxes' can't play albums.
> Even worse for Napster. I also have some plans for sharing your own
> library (Ping or Amazon).
>
J
Jeff Flowerday;640218 Wrote:
> Can you let us modify the default message that gets posted to facebook
> and twitter. I think the following would make more sense.
>
> Artist: blah blah. blah blah from album blah blah
>
>
> I was just listening to Black Country Communion, so it wanted to post
)p(;640174 Wrote:
> I think that is a good compromise for most users for the wiki.
>
> Maybe take a look at triodes spotify plugin does it. It lets you paste
> track, playlist, album and artist url's into ipeng.
Does it? In that case it should work to play an album because iPeng
will just pass
pippin;640130 Wrote:
>
>
> *iPeng now shows an AirPlay control for the iPeng Player if there
> is an AirPlay device on the network, so you dont have to use the task
> bar four audio routing.
>
>
This is a very convenient feature. Thanks for the update!
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Can you let us modify the default message that gets posted to facebook
and twitter. I think the following would make more sense.
Artist: blah blah. blah blah from album blah blah
I was just listening to Black Country Communion, so it wanted to post
the following to my wall:
Black Country Com
Thank you! :)
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Some interesting, and excellent features. Many thanks!
Just one thing though, I can't figure out how to browse Wikipedia with
the new update. I'm probably doing something stupid, or missing the
obvious, but could someone run through how I do this?
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I think I'll just do an "use English Wiki" option which is probably what
99% of the people would be looking for in a configuration option.
On the Spotify albums: yes, I plan to add that but it essentially means
I have to re-implement the whole Spotify client because the
Squeezeboxes' can't play a
)p(;640151 Wrote:
> I had my iPad set to Dutch. When looking up artist info on Wikipedia it
> used the Dutch version and not the English one. So it won't find most.
> Setting the iPad to English made it using the English one. Maybe you
> can make an option to select the database to use independen
danull;640144 Wrote:
> Somebody is bound to ask so might as well be me... Any plans to bring
> this to Google+ ?
Well, certainly. The update was already waiting at Apple's when Google+
came around so no chance to look into it for this but it's certainly a
logical step.
I'll have to see whether t
Somebody is bound to ask so might as well be me... Any plans to bring
this to Google+ ?
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iPeng for iPhone 1.3.4 (still in App Store review) and iPeng for iPad
1.1.4 (already available in the App Store) bring some new feature
Coolio has been demanding for a long time now: getting social about
your music.
BE SOCIAL ABOUT YOUR MUSIC
Now what is this about? Oh yes, they needed to add T
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