Re: [interface-discuss] UNO Logging API

2007-04-17 Thread Joerg Barfurth
to this proposed API is highly welcome. Thanks Ciao Frank [1]http://api.openoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/util/logging/module-ix.html [2]http://udk.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList -- Joerg Barfurth phone: +49 40 23646662 / x2 Software Engineermailto:[EMAIL

Re: [discuss] Math syntax

2006-04-11 Thread Joerg Barfurth
. But apparently the left langle bra mline right none or left none mline ket right rangle notations can be used to achieve this. - Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thin Client

Re: [discuss] StarOffice or OpenOffice.org

2006-04-07 Thread Joerg Barfurth
repository at Sun. In this very limited sense you could say OOo source is the base for SO source. - Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thin Client Software

Re: [discuss] StarOffice or OpenOffice.org

2006-04-07 Thread Joerg Barfurth
incantation to semantically fix an entire site ... -Jörg Lars D. Noodén wrote: Thanks. Some of the short descriptions of OOo and SO could use updating to reflect this. On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Joerg Barfurth wrote: Neither. There is only one codebase from which both StarOffice and OpenOffice.org

Re: [interface-discuss] Re: [interface-announce] info/CWS dba203a : css.resource.OfficeResourceLoader

2006-03-20 Thread Joerg Barfurth
that there is this one special instance. And staying with naming conventions is a good idea, even if the technical reason is gone. -- Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth phone: +49 40 23646662 / x2 Software Engineermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Desktop Technology http://reserv.ireland

Re: [interface-discuss] multiple inheritance interfaces, and method ambiguity

2006-02-06 Thread Joerg Barfurth
be a very strong incompatibility. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth phone: +49 40 23646662 / x2 Software Engineermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Desktop Technology http://reserv.ireland/twiki/bin/view/Argus/ Thin Client Software http://www.sun.com/software/sunray/ Sun Microsystems

Re: [discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-07 Thread Joerg Barfurth
their sizes and measuring the load times. Depending on details of the parser used, the same change in uncompressed size due to tag lengths could have a slightly larger effect than pure whitespace, because tags go through somewhat more processing (e.g. token lookups). Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth

Re: [discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-07 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Daniel Carrera wrote: Joerg Barfurth wrote: Take a look at Tools-Options-Load/Save-General. There is an option 'optimize XML for size'. This option defaults to 'optimize' and iirc it was introduced in an early effort to make the file load process faster. I'd assume that the effect

Re: [discuss] Editing in OO 2 writer

2005-11-18 Thread Joerg Barfurth
://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/pre_submission.html. If you'd prefer an online IRC chat to explore the problem collaboratively with someone else, please try the #users.openoffice.org channel on irc.freenode.net. HTH, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using

Re: [discuss] OOo2 final swedish: when/where

2005-11-01 Thread Joerg Barfurth
version and given their 'go'. I don't know if anybody is actively doing QA for the swedish version, though. HTH, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org

Re: [discuss] Re: getstoragename no content

2005-10-20 Thread Joerg Barfurth
\Anwendungsdaten\StarOffice7\ HTH, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration http://util.openoffice.org

Re: [discuss] This is why we need a slim OOo

2005-09-22 Thread Joerg Barfurth
there is ongoing work to make OOo more modular - not at the application level, but on a feature level. The goal is, that code that is needed only for a particular feature will be loaded and consume resources only when that feature is used. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems

Re: [discuss] Open Office Question

2005-08-26 Thread Joerg Barfurth
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Re: [discuss] dictionary development for oo.org

2005-08-26 Thread Joerg Barfurth
@lingucomponent.openoffice.org mailing list. You could also look at the lingucomponent project site at http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org. If you want to get involved there, you should subscribe to that list. That ought to be acceptable, as the list is very low volume. HTH, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth

Re: [discuss] RPM Packages untolerable

2005-06-28 Thread Joerg Barfurth
with no existing package manager? There are many people who see this differently. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration http://util.openoffice.org

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-26 Thread Joerg Barfurth
), then it isn't an OpenOffice.org feature. Ciao, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration http://util.openoffice.org

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-26 Thread Joerg Barfurth
. AFAICT they even do this for localizations - at least we have several south african ones. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-25 Thread Joerg Barfurth
to honor the UI language used by the user for the OS/desktop. And language packs are much more versatile than old-style multi-lingual installers, because they allow adding (and removing) UI languages to/from existing installation properly (and completely). Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth

Re: [discuss] no support for Solaris version of OO.o?

2005-05-25 Thread Joerg Barfurth
do you guys think? Yes. I think WONTFIX should be reserved for issues that don't fit the strategy and roadmap of the project or should not be in the general OOo version for technical reasons, i.e a conscious decision that even a contributed patch would not be accepted. Ciao, Jörg -- Joerg

Re: [discuss] re:updating OO and dicts

2005-05-24 Thread Joerg Barfurth
try to simply copy or rename your user data folder as you install newer milestones. HTH, Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration

Re: [discuss] On the acceptance of an OO.o extension installer

2005-05-17 Thread Joerg Barfurth
for this. Ciao, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration http://util.openoffice.org

Re: [discuss] On the acceptance of an OO.o extension installer

2005-05-17 Thread Joerg Barfurth
to everyone. Well, fd.o would probably make that $XDG_DATA_DIRS/templates/filetype/ or so, which means that an entire search path needs to be derived from an environment variable, which is more complicated to inject into the OOo-internal system... Ciao, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun

Re: [discuss] On the acceptance of an OO.o extension installer

2005-05-12 Thread Joerg Barfurth
page explaining all this to new, potential, one-time contributors? And *deprecating* the use of .sxw or .sxc files as installers? The UNO package manager is documented in the UNO developers guide http://api.openoffice.org/DevelopersGuide/DevelopersGuide.html. HTH, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth

Re: [discuss] On the acceptance of an OO.o extension installer

2005-05-12 Thread Joerg Barfurth
not provide as native packages for their distro. If administrators want to disallow that users install their own add-ons, that is a separate issue. This is probably possible by changing some OOo configuration. Ciao, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using

Re: [discuss] Re: Java in OO.o: Proprietary trap or creative commons?

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi Johan, Johan Vromans wrote: What feature are you thinking of in particular? There has been a list of features requiring Java on one of the lists some time ago. Features included were (a.o.) writer wizards. IIRc some of the 1.1.x wizards were written in Java as well. So I don't see a

Re: [discuss] Re: Java in OO.o: Proprietary trap or creative commons?

2005-05-04 Thread Joerg Barfurth
platforms you ship. Or you can check with JRE vendors, if JRE licenses allow you to distribute a JRE for use with OOo on your CD. Ciao, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [discuss] Re: Java in OO.o: Proprietary trap or creative commons?

2005-05-03 Thread Joerg Barfurth
, if that is what you mean. It certainly will not include its own private copy of gcj to become 'standalone'. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration

Re: [discuss] Re: Java in OO.o: Proprietary trap or creative commons?

2005-05-03 Thread Joerg Barfurth
. leaving the 'built correctly' version as an exercise to the community? What exactly would characterize a 'correctly built' version? Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [discuss] On the acceptance of an OO.o extension installer

2005-04-25 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le dimanche 24 avril 2005 23:54 +0200, Mathias Bauer a crit : Let's just say that linux users and sysadmins strongly disagree with you for their own reasons, that they yelled at every single software system that tried to do this very thing, and that none of the

Re: [discuss] Patch acceptance

2005-04-25 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi, Daniel Carrera wrote: + For a very small contribution (a macro) the annoyance of printing it and physically mailing it to California may be non-trivial. You are looking at JCA from the wrong side. You should ask: Please, keep in mind that I'm not suggesting that we nuke the JCA. I simply

Re: [discuss] Patch acceptance [Was: Has sun sacked half its developers?]

2005-04-22 Thread Joerg Barfurth
, the CC is probably the the best place for such an endeavour. BTW: As user I wouldn't download and run anything from a place, where anyone could put anything, for security reasons. Ciao, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer

Re: [discuss] Patch acceptance [Was: Has sun sacked half its developers?]

2005-04-22 Thread Joerg Barfurth
was replying to your: And you do this with the full knowledge that it will be released under a license that permits propietary derivatives, and that if Sun likes your work, they can include it into StarOffice but leave OOo out of it. Ciao, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-21 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Daniel Carrera wrote: Joerg Barfurth wrote: If people really find something they can't live with they can use use our processes to get obstacles removed (like the Community Council or the Engineering steering comittee). But of course, as in any OSS project, if you can't live with project

[discuss] Patch acceptance [Was: Has sun sacked half its developers?]

2005-04-20 Thread Joerg Barfurth
but not least, you can always, for any OSS project, find cases where the project lead rejected patches, because they did not fit in with project policies or roadmap. Citing examples won't help this discussion much - we can find many cases of accepted patches as well. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Joerg Barfurth
speaking for myself, not for Sun officially, nor do I pretend that many (or any) other Sun developers share these views. -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration

Re: [discuss] Re: shortcuts quickstarter

2005-03-24 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi Daniel, Daniel Carrera wrote: Andrew Brown wrote: I think Peter puts it best: This kind of thing would NEVER happen this fast with a MS product. I know this seems slow, but it really only took 3 - 4 months of serious squacking to get it changed. It's good that it's changed -- and it seems to

Re: [discuss] Re: shortcuts quickstarter

2005-03-24 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi Daniel, Daniel Carrera wrote: And of course many votes don't necessarily mean that the issue must be done with any urgency or even done at all. First, we don't have countervotes. What if there are 200 in favor, but 2000 against? 1) People can leave comments saying they disagree. 2) Not a

Re: [discuss] Re: shortcuts quickstarter

2005-03-24 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi Enrique, Enrique wrote: Dear Mathias, the point is not how much work have been involved in getting this again, but the effort wasted in a silly usability test, Not sure how that came up. What 'silly usability test' are you referring to? time wasted in making up the decision and writing a

Re: [discuss] Re: shortcuts quickstarter

2005-03-24 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Enrique wrote: The whole point about this issue and similar ones is that many of us do not understand who ever asked to remove that menu from the quickstart (is an example). There was an issue on that? It is my impression that this one started as cleaning up the menu and additionally was part

Re: [discuss] Re: shortcuts quickstarter

2005-03-24 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi, Enrique wrote: Joerg Barfurth wrote: Completely unmoderated communication between developers and a wider less techinalical audience often don't work well, as can be seen by the way issue commenting is often (ab)used in ways that are perceived as counterproductive by most developers

Re: [discuss] Re: shortcuts quickstarter

2005-03-24 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Daniel Carrera wrote: See the archives http://specs.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=announce. Hhhmm... I see what you mean. Well, some of those emails would be considered noise by most people at discuss. Like this one: ---//--- Email Start --//--

Re: [discuss] Suggestion: Compress/repair funktion.

2005-03-22 Thread Joerg Barfurth
fixup tools? This is of course assuming that our database engine is smarter and automatically removes superfluous data eventually. If it isn't, then yes it should probably at least offer a similar tool. HTH, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std

Re: [discuss] Suggestion for the presentations tool

2005-03-17 Thread Joerg Barfurth
did. Perhaps provide a link to the jpg file in questions so others can try. I have had no trouble inserting graphics in Impress. It might be helpful if you file and issue. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer

Re: [discuss] opening tab delimitted files with a .xls suffix in the OO spreadsheet pgm

2005-03-10 Thread Joerg Barfurth
a filter that can't open the selected file (e.g. text for a binary file), it will revert to the automatic detection. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org

Re: [discuss] Re: What about SQLite, was: Funding for remaining HSQLDB work

2005-02-17 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi, Jonathon Blake wrote: with 2.0 beta almost out of the door, Is this the reason the 2.0 beta was not released in November, as the _original_, not updated schedule proposed? The updated schedule slipped the date to December, then January, and now early summer. IIRC the reason to slip the beta

Re: [discuss] OO startup time

2005-02-07 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I have a comment regarding the OOo performance future. As most stuff are hanging from Java. I think is less likely that OOo will improve it's pefromance. How is 'most stuff hanging from Java'? There are a few parts in OOo that are realized in Java, but the

Re: [discuss] Change OOo 2.x Workstation Installation Target Dirctory?

2005-02-02 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Oliver Braun wrote: Hi Charles, since your are talking about Application Data, I assume you're running Windows. Locate the bootstrap.ini in the program directory of your OOo 1.9 installation, there is a key named UserInstallation with $SYSUSERCONFIG expanding to ...\Application Data. Actually it

Re: [discuss] Re: Replace

2005-01-28 Thread Joerg Barfurth
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Re: [discuss] Re: Replace

2005-01-27 Thread Joerg Barfurth
it is clearly defined what is the 'same' capitalization in each case. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration http://util.openoffice.org

Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice 2.0 Windows Installer

2005-01-26 Thread Joerg Barfurth
of an installation, is the best thing you can do. Of course if the install fails repeatedly then it would be helpful to get a message (or log entry) that explains what failed and how, so you can fix it. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std

Re: [discuss] Strange markup

2005-01-25 Thread Joerg Barfurth
goes for chage in fonts etc... Yes. To change the default character style (globally or for a certain paragraph style) use the stylist or style catalog to change the paragraph style (or the 'default' character style). Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o evolution - thoughts?

2005-01-20 Thread Joerg Barfurth
, Jörg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration http://util.openoffice.org

Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice 2.0 Windows Installer

2005-01-18 Thread Joerg Barfurth
can also check, if the spec explains in more detail what the mentioned 'loader' does. Ciao, Joerg -- Joerg Barfurth Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg using std::disclaimer Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice.org Configuration http