Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-02 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/31/20 11:18 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: On 31 Oct 2020, at 10:52, Simon Walter wrote: On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my local resolver lately. It's pleasant. From what we discovered about

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/30/20 7:29 AM, Rick Moen wrote: ... FWIW, I am no longer comfortable with the idea of a combined authoritative/recursive server on a publicly exposed static IP. That has been deprecated for long decades as bad security, particularly because it increases the risk of cache poisoning of the

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my local resolver lately. It's pleasant. From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I clearly do not trust that technology. What meetings? Is it

Re: [DNG] the email universe

2020-10-29 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-10-29 20:12, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Found the list of MUA useful. > > The last time I went looking though - - - it seemed to me anyway that > much more than just a MUA is needed for a complete system. > > Would someone be able to outline for the unknowing what all

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-28 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-10-28 08:20, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Dimitris T. via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > >> still recommending TB to clients/people though... > > In case it's useful, I keep a list of all known MUAs for Linux, here: > http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Mail/muas.html > Necessary disclaimer: As

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-28 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-10-28 07:47, Rick Moen wrote: ... > I continue to like projects that are limited in feature scope enough to > not live or die by corporate underwriting. E.g., mutt continues to be > maintainable by a small group of motivated developers. When I want it > to be graphical, I run it in an

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-26 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/26/20 5:07 AM, Dimitris via Dng wrote: forgot to mention seamonkey (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/). -- also these days, webmail/nextcloud can be used as groupware too, with calendars/contacts included.. webmail gpg support is very rare (for a pretty good reason imo), but mailpile

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-25 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/25/20 7:20 AM, Mark Rousell wrote: On 23/10/2020 08:04, Simon Walter wrote: Has any of you TB users (assuming there are any here} done this migration? How is the new shiny? Is it fine? Shall I forget about TB? Any suggestions of what could replace it? I'm not in a hurry to do it. I

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-25 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/24/20 7:03 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..heh, I've used Claws for over 18 years now, ever since it was known as Sylpheed version 0.7.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu), never really looked back, it's email the way email was meant to be. :o) Oh it's Sylpheed. I used that at one time when I

[DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-23 Thread Simon Walter
many of you, is why I don't like it when software changes. Best regards, Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-10 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-10-11 08:10, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 10/10/2020 21:47, Simon Walter wrote: >> On 2020-10-08 21:08, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> -- snip -- >>> >>> Anybody enlighten me about the meaning of the phrase... >>> >>> 'The controller seems to

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-10 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-10-08 21:08, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 08/10/2020 04:30, Simon Walter wrote: >> On 2020-10-05 11:23, tom wrote: >> ... >>> >>> I would appreciate if we kept this on-board unless needed. Never know >>> when someone in the future might find it use

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-07 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-10-05 11:23, tom wrote: ... > > I would appreciate if we kept this on-board unless needed. Never know > when someone in the future might find it useful. > I would appreciate that too! I use it mainly on servers, but also some dev env. I used the LXC and Debian documentation to get

Re: [DNG] problem with KDE/plasma on Beowulf / pulseaudio too

2020-10-07 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-09-27 19:25, . via Dng wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a thinkpad laptop with a separate numeric keypad.  I was using > devuan ascii with KDE happily on this machine, but when I upgraded to > beowulf  I lost the use of the numeric keypad.  It appears to be > KDE/plasma that's at fault, so

Re: [DNG] problem with KDE/plasma on Beowulf / pulseaudio too

2020-10-07 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-09-28 19:48, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 28/09/2020 02:29, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 01:35:55AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: >>> On 27/9/20 13:59, g4sra via Dng wrote: I have reservations about where QT5 is going, despite any issue with pulseaudio, now might be a

Re: [DNG] à chacun son goût (was: Is it worth the effort for SPF, DMARC, DKIM, etc.?)

2020-10-04 Thread Simon Hobson
ix/work around whatever I/we break" attitude. Am I describing SPF, or SystemD, or both ? We "suggest" that people who blindly adopt SystemD without any thought about maintaining compatibility/freedom of choice for those choosing not to use it are "anti freedom

Re: [DNG] Is t worth the effort for SPF?, DMARC>, DKIM?, etc

2020-10-02 Thread Simon Hobson
. Hmm, didn't Devuan come into being partly due to someone pushing a policy of not caring what he breaks for other people ? Sorry, that was a bit below the belt but I hope it illustrates the issue. Luckily the breakages with email have (mostly) been easier to deal with than those that caus

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-29 Thread Simon Hobson
eighbours. > Another possibility to discard spammers claiming to be your domain is to set > SPF -all. That, however, has other drawbacks. I think you missed the context. For *MY* mail server, I can ignore any SPF records etc - if the connecting client claims to be me then I know it'

Re: [DNG] Is t worth the effort for SPF?, DMARC>, DKIM?, etc

2020-09-28 Thread Simon Hobson
TP, where it came with > teo alternative sets of greetings. I always preferred the second option > of; > "Who are you going to pretend to be today" and the response > "Thrilled beyond bladder control to meet you" > and so on. That's great :D I just might borrow t

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-28 Thread Simon Hobson
ted) gives me a /64 IPv6 block > for free. That's 2^64 addresses. And the same with our home ISP, in case > I felt like violating the terms and running a server. Yeah, I can have a /56 or /48 for IPv6. How many IPv4 addresses do you have since much of th

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-27 Thread Simon Hobson
there are some thing it makes sense to block - so-one else should be running a mail server and claiming to be in my domain, stuff like that. Some basic protocol checks block a good proportion of spam - and very cheaply in terms of resources needed. Simon ___

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-26 Thread Simon Hobson
the wrong server for some time (triggered delivery without any notice, but from the wrong server and my server rejected them as it only allowed mail specific servers (the ones they listed as inbound relays)). But then, having run mail servers for some years now, I can really really und

Re: [DNG] OT? ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Simon Hobson
w away some of your main and you'll never know unless the sender contacts you via a different means. Clients were also told that there was no GDPR problem for them to consider at all - even though anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can ex

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-09 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-09-09 15:53, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > On 5/9/20 10:38 pm, Simon Walter wrote: >> On 9/5/20 12:50 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 12:26:21PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: >>>> Reallocation, to my knowledge, should happen in the b

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-05 Thread Simon Walter
On 9/5/20 12:50 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 12:26:21PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: Reallocation, to my knowledge, should happen in the background. It's *possible* that the reallocation event and the FS corruption are unrelated. My understanding is that the drive won't

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-05 Thread Simon Walter
st regards, Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-05 Thread Simon Walter
fsck found the corruption. That's just a bit too much to get into. I would only worry about it if the reallocated sector count keeps rising. For always connected disks, smartd is your friend. Best regards, Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-04 Thread Simon Walter
On 9/5/20 11:19 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2020-09-04 20:46, Simon Walter wrote: On 9/5/20 1:34 AM, Andreas Messer wrote: Hi golinux, On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 01:50:07AM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2020-09-01 00:07, goli...@devuan.org wrote: [...] I have no idea how reliable

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-04 Thread Simon Walter
provided to this mailing list. I know it's possible to see that in the SMART data, but I didn't see that posted. Are short reads always surface errors? Best regards, Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-04 Thread Simon Walter
issue, and can also be predicted by SMART data. Mishandling of drives is something that SMART can't predict of course. ;) Best regards, Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Simon Hobson
suggestion for rsync. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] End-end encryption (was: Zoom? Rather not...)

2020-08-06 Thread Simon Hobson
, we all trust Faceborg to to abuse such access don't we, after all they have no track record whatsoever of dodgy dealing or ignoring the law do they ? Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread Simon Hobson
that decision. At the day job we are starting to use Teams. I can see a lot going for it, but it also looks like more of the same slow, clumsy, eye candy we've come to expect from MS. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Privacy and large public, yet privately owned, service providers (was: Re: Zoom?)

2020-08-04 Thread Simon Hobson
too much riding on business as usual to allow such details as fundamental incompatibility between the two sets of law to get in the way. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-04 Thread Simon Hobson
m's website. I recall trying it out not long ago, I "wasn't impressed" with some of the dependencies - it seems to pull in a lot of dubious looking stuff. Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: > I've switched to teams. That's fine if anyone you want to chat w

Re: [DNG] my experience upgrading to NFT

2020-08-02 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-08-03 07:36, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-08-02 17:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> What is NFT? > > nftables, the slowly arriving successor to iptables. > https://wiki.debian.org/nftables I've been using Shorewall for years. I only just now learned that:

Re: [DNG] Problem with DHCP during boot

2020-07-21 Thread Simon Hobson
get a bit of spare time. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] OT: mpv drops GNOME support

2020-07-20 Thread Simon Walter
On 2020-07-09 03:57, Jim Jackson wrote: > > https://linuxreviews.org/Mpv_drops_GNOME_support > I love the poetry a commenter left. He knows how I feel. "Fuck GNOME devs coming straight from tha underground A young hacker got it bad cos he's out of other FOSS choices so devs think They have the

Re: [DNG] Problem with DHCP during boot

2020-07-20 Thread Simon Hobson
isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users Mind you, the first of those does seem "rather old" ! Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Problem with DHCP during boot

2020-07-17 Thread Simon Hobson
pening. I think I'll ask the same question over at the ISC DHCP list, we're a friendly bunch over there, but it's more an OS question than a DHCP one. Still, there's a range of experience, so someone else might have hit this and know the answer. Simon As an aside, I also found out that MongoDB

[DNG] Problem with DHCP during boot

2020-07-15 Thread Simon Hobson
which ties in with the timestamps of my packet capture files. Can anyone give me any hint as to what is bringing up the network before it is supposed to be ? Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-14 Thread Simon Hobson
he problem tricky. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Debian abandons LSB

2020-06-11 Thread Simon Hobson
n rc?.d, thereby > rejecting the idea of stable renumbering in order to keep existing order where > possible (fix-init). And contributing to the "SysVInit is bad - it's scripts are too long" "argument" from certain quarters. Simon __

[DNG] Debian abandons LSB

2020-06-05 Thread Simon Hobson
pdate drops all lsb-* compatibility packages, and is therefore an > abandon of the pursuit of LSB compatibility for Debian. Only lsb-release and > lsb-base are kept as they continue to be used throughout the archive. Simon ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Current state of VPN software ?

2020-04-08 Thread Simon Hobson
me now. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Current state of VPN software ?

2020-04-08 Thread Simon Hobson
lse, while FreeSwan and OpenSwan were having a bun fight. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] What to do with an inode?

2020-03-30 Thread Simon Hobson
o file with no directory entry, but the inode staying in existence due to the file being open. As in, "I want to create a directory entry pointing to a specific inode to rescue the file so it doesn't disappear when closed". I didn't actually look at any of these though. Simon

Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen? -> AMD bashing

2020-03-29 Thread Simon Walter
failed and what the reason they failed if you want to be taken seriously. What motherboard? You don't mention a motherboard, just a 2200G. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] ibus

2020-03-18 Thread Simon Walter
On 3/18/20 7:12 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:59:41 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: Anno domini 2020 Tue, 17 Mar 10:27:11 +0100 Didier Kryn scripsit: ...     There's now a fashion of doing all innovations in a complicated way. It seems developpers have become unable to

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-18 Thread Simon Walter
On 3/16/20 1:22 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: ...  - Note that firefox-esr no longer requires pulseaudio. You can easily    remove pulseaudio and just use alsa. Oh yeah! I can watch Youtube now with Firefox now! Thanks for the news and for the for Devuan!

Re: [DNG] What can even possibly go wrong?

2020-03-12 Thread Simon Hobson
server on whatever machine you are using ? Something perfectly doable since ... err ... long before I ever got involved with any unix[like] system. Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-03-04 Thread Simon Hobson
our thinking, but alas I fear the result may be https://xkcd.com/927/ > Also, who has time to rewrite polkit and dbus from scratch? Alas I have neither the time nor skills to help with such a project :-( Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists

Re: [DNG] Question: Why does "mkdir -p" produce unexpected file permissions and group

2020-01-25 Thread Simon Hobson
n the directory, while "below" means those items within other directories. So /usr/local/foo is "in" /usr/local and /usr/local/something/foo is "below" /usr/local. I'm not sure which designation /usr/local/something (being a directory rather than a file) comes unde

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists (was: Can we fix this DMARC thing?)

2019-12-28 Thread Simon Hobson
Steve Litt wrote: > ... we could at least > change the munge string from: > > Firstname Lastname via Dng > > to: > > GOES TO DNG (IRT Firstname Lastname) > > So when you do "return to sender" and it crazily puts > dng@lists.dyne.org in the To field, at least that To field won't be >

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-11 Thread Simon Hobson
of the disk utils ? Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-10 Thread Simon Hobson
's backup. Ah, but zero the whole disk and it will dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M It'll use one write cycle on the media. Simon -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Hidden "Chrome Web Store Payments" menu entry...

2019-12-09 Thread Simon Walter
On 12/9/19 8:56 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 15:24:05 +0900, Simon wrote in message > <6d01ab17-3ab2-bc52-cbb2-f838087fe...@gikaku.com>: >> I suppose this is from upstream. Does anyone about this? I thought >> maybe other privacy conscious users would lik

[DNG] Hidden "Chrome Web Store Payments" menu entry...

2019-12-08 Thread Simon Walter
is is from upstream. Does anyone about this? I thought maybe other privacy conscious users would like to know. It seems like the exact thing that the Chromium package maintainer would remove or document. Best regards, Simon PS I removed the screenshot as I think it may not be allo

Re: [DNG] OT: KVM/QEMU incremental backups?

2019-12-08 Thread Simon Walter
On 11/19/19 8:21 PM, hal wrote: > Is anyone doing QEMU/KVM incremental backups of a running VM? I'm trying > to find some info on how best to accomplish the backup as well as a > restore. I have not done it with a VM, but I suppose it should work fine: LVM snapshot. I take one every 30 minutes on

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-12 Thread Simon Hobson
Jim Jackson wrote: > (*) These pi's are a lot more powerfull than the Sun Sparc servers we had > NFS serving user data to 60+ workstations back in the 00's :-) Ah yes, to think that many of us routinely carry around in our pockets more storage, RAM, and CPU capacity than we could have dreamed

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-10-01 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/1/19 12:57 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2019-09-30 09:27, Simon Walter wrote: >> On 9/29/19 12:36 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >>> Sorry Steve . . . I think this idea is naive, ill-advised and a tactical >>> error that could have very real, uninte

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-09-30 Thread Simon Walter
On 9/29/19 12:36 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Sorry Steve . . . I think this idea is naive, ill-advised and a tactical > error that could have very real, unintended consequences. So that the ignorant among us can understand learn, do you mind telling us why? Thanks,

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Simon Walter
On 9/27/19 7:25 AM, Steve Litt wrote: ... > > Basically, Kmail became dependent on a huge database called Akonadi and > an always dragging lookup facility called Nepomuk, to the point that > you couldn't fix things by moving files around or changing a config. I > bailed out of Kmail, and six

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Simon Walter
I heard them talking about this on Jupiter Broadcasting. I think it was in a previous episode they mentioned Devuan too and talked about how some maintainers of Debian are having second thoughts. As with PulseAudio and Systemd, it might be a good idea, but the way Mr. Pottering goes about things

Re: [DNG] IBM Gives Away PowerPC; Goes Open Source

2019-08-30 Thread Simon Hobson
Didier Kryn wrote: > Therefore it means IBM doesn't care anymore in PowerPc arch ... That's what I > fear, actually. I don't think it means that. It's clear that PowerPC is stuck as a niche architecture. The only way out of that is to get lots of people using it - and making it freely

Re: [DNG] linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64 update breaks networking

2019-08-14 Thread Simon Hobson
Chris Richmond wrote: > Aug 4 18:33:15 teton dhclient[3755]: Listening on LPF/eth1/00:1c:c0:e1:d0:ff > Aug 4 18:33:15 teton dhclient[3755]: Sending on LPF/eth1/00:1c:c0:e1:d0:ff > Aug 4 18:33:15 teton dhclient[3755]: Sending on Socket/fallback > Aug 4 18:33:15 teton dhclient[3755]:

Re: [DNG] Identifying an installed physical hard drive without damage

2019-08-12 Thread Simon Hobson
Miles Fidelman wrote: > ... then see which drive's lights flash a lot (if the drive has a light). Ah yes, those were the days . I can only assume that they were dropped to save money - and it's really annoying when trying to do things like this (figure out which drive is which). I've noted

Re: [DNG] reinstalling GRUB2

2019-07-22 Thread Simon Hobson
Haines Brown wrote: > I tried the chroot method, but with little luck. ... ># chroot /sysroot > ># grub-install /dev/sdb >bash grub-install: command not found > ># ls -la /usr/sbin | grep grub-install >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 102046 Oct 28 2018

Re: [DNG] reinstalling GRUB2

2019-07-22 Thread Simon Hobson
Steve Litt wrote: > Simon Hobson wrote: >> 1) use grub rescue cd (which you can put on a USB stick). Then fairly >> easy to sort out by picking the right menu options. > > Do you mean: > > * Super Grub2 Disk (https://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub2/)

Re: [DNG] reinstalling GRUB2

2019-07-21 Thread Simon Hobson
I see two other ways to make this easy, both of which have worked for me in the past : 1) use grub rescue cd (which you can put on a USB stick). Then fairly easy to sort out by picking the right menu options. 2) use these incantations, lifted from a post elsewhere : mkdir /sysroot mount

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-11 Thread Simon Hobson
KatolaZ wrote: > I joined this project much before it was called Devuan, and I have > always considered it a battle worth to be fought, day after day. I > promised myself that I would have continued contributing to Devuan > until the day we would have started talking corporate bullshit, or >

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Simon Hobson
chillfan wrote: > Katolaz is working very hard to ensure we have releases, but I didn't realise > he was doing all this even. I didn't either. So another +1 for Katolaz and all the work he's doing. And everyone else of course, but I think it's a bit unfair for people to be calling for heads on

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-04 Thread Simon Walter
On 4/2/19 6:14 PM, hal wrote: > > > On 4/1/19 1:30 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > >> >> There was no attack. There was no security incident. It was an April >> fool. We have clarified that several times. I have apologised for >> that. I am very sorry for the distress caused :\ > > I think it's

Re: [DNG] April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting etech3 (ete...@e-tech-systems.com): > >> My advice to you is like the Marines motto: Lead, follow or get the >> hell out of the way. > > > > That might be the motto of _some_ group of marines, but FWIW actual > service mottos are: I suspect that he wasn't

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-01-31 Thread Simon Hobson
Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Hard to believe I listened to the same talk Corbet >> is describing. What I heard was a propaganda piece, >> finding reasons to sell the systemd approach >> to BSD conference attendees. > > Not really. He points out there were good reasons to want a new init, >

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-01-31 Thread Simon Hobson
Massimo Coppola wrote: > But I guess there's no need either to list all technical systemd issues here, > or accept the unsound logic that unkind developers are the only reason of > systemd criticism. With all the hot air, I suspect that many people have lost sight of the distinction between

Re: [DNG] ..alsa+apulse and torbrowser... rpath is /usr/lib/apulse and is too long???

2019-01-23 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/23/19 6:48 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 22/01/19 at 18:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 01:37:17AM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: >>> I don't see what sound has to do with that. Gotta have that video stream? >> If you're a video journalist, yes.

Re: [DNG] ..alsa+apulse and torbrowser... rpath is /usr/lib/apulse and is too long???

2019-01-22 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/22/19 4:38 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2019-01-22 01:12, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:04:02 +0900, Simon wrote in message >> <24516662-997c-fa54-ab14-d12437192...@gikaku.com>: >> >>> IMCO, If a piece of software requires Puls

Re: [DNG] ..alsa+apulse and torbrowser... rpath is /usr/lib/apulse and is too long???

2019-01-21 Thread Simon Walter
IMCO, If a piece of software requires PulseAudio, it deserves to be silent. I run a studio and muck around with "pro" linux audio apps from time to time but mostly xwax. That is why I knew Systemd would be no good. I want to hear the excuses for wasting CPU cycles and damaging ears from

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-13 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/11/19 12:24 PM, Simon Walter wrote: > On 1/9/19 4:47 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> On 09.01.19 13:48, Simon Walter wrote: >>> This still did not work. So after learning about connman, I decided to >>> try that. I removed NetworkManager and reinstalled connman and

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-10 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/9/19 4:47 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 09.01.19 13:48, Simon Walter wrote: >> This still did not work. So after learning about connman, I decided to >> try that. I removed NetworkManager and reinstalled connman and the >> "systray" app cmst "just wor

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-09 Thread Simon Hobson
Simon Walter wrote: > Yes, wireless LAN works from all my other computers. The Internet is > accessible from them. I have a router that does the PPPOE and DHCP and > DNS and NTP and a bunch of other things (dd-wrt). > > I can connect to the wireless LAN via NetworkMana

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-08 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/9/19 2:54 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 08-01-19 13:59, Simon Walter wrote: >> >> Many thanks for the help. >> >> Yes, wireless LAN works from all my other computers. The Internet is >> accessible from them. I have a router that does the

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-08 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/8/19 9:29 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: > Simon Walter wrote: > >> Maybe there is some kind of conflict with another package. I have no DNS >> resolution. I do not have the full dnsmasq package installed - just the >> dnsmasq-base. > > I think you need to

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-08 Thread Simon Hobson
Simon Walter wrote: > Maybe there is some kind of conflict with another package. I have no DNS > resolution. I do not have the full dnsmasq package installed - just the > dnsmasq-base. I think you need to take a step back and diagnose this logically. You need to start with t

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-08 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/8/19 8:55 PM, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Am 2019-01-08 12:45, schrieb Simon Walter: >> Did it work on a fresh install? Or did you have to configure anything? > > Yes. The only thing you have to note: the interfaces it should manage > must not be listed in /etc/network/int

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-08 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/8/19 8:41 PM, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Am 2019-01-08 12:12, schrieb Simon Walter: >> I have a simple question: Is NetworkManager supposed to work? > > Yes, it works. > >> It has not worked in Jessie and it does not work in Ascii. I have read >> the manuals

Re: [DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-08 Thread Simon Walter
On 1/8/19 8:21 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 08:12:12PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Happy New Year! May 2019 be fantastic for you! >> >> I have a simple question: Is NetworkManager supposed to work? >> >> I

[DNG] Is NetworkManager supposed to work?

2019-01-08 Thread Simon Walter
a grumpy old man and want to try the new stuff with this laptop. Since there is a possibility that it just doesn't work, I thought to ask here. If it is supposed to work, is there any howto or tute that I can lead me? Many thanks and best wishes for 2019, Simon

Re: [DNG] Admins can you fix/set the header overrides?

2018-12-27 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > Back in the day, I gave out /etc/aliases entries to friends that > leveraged the 'mafia' theme of my linuxmafia.com domain, In our case it was simple alias entries ina database queried by Postfix - but same effect and same problem. > SRS (sender rewriting scheme) was SPF

Re: [DNG] Admins can you fix/set the header overrides?

2018-12-27 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > Simon, I appreciate your pitching in to attempt to answer this question. > A few necessary corrections, though: Correction noted. However, in my defence my issues (which I no longer have to deal with) were with mail forwarding in servers rather than mailing lists (IIR

Re: [DNG] Admins can you fix/set the header overrides?

2018-12-26 Thread Simon Hobson
Michael wrote: >> Argh. Sending to the list this time. >> >> Please don't set "Reply-to" on list emails. >> >> Antony. > > I’m pretty sure the individuals aren’t doing it explicitly. This list just > doesn’t seem to create, or override really, the headers quite right. Some > messages

Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

2018-12-20 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: >> In part, Linux adoption is held back by its perceived difficulty > > Just a brief comment about this in passing, as this is an antique debate > point ages ago stomped into the ground on comp.os.*.advocacy and other > places: An operating system one must install (not

Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

2018-12-20 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: >> I agree. The more GNU/Linux blows off prospective users by making them >> jump through hoops, the more Linux becomes a niche. The nichier Linux >> becomes, the more the hardware manufacturers ignore it. Let GNU/Linux >> get up to 25% on the desktop, and the manufacturers will

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-08 Thread Simon Hobson
g4sra wrote: >> How is the Linux server going to authenticate users, via /etc/passwd or >> other ? >> >> A lot depends on this, also the number of users will have a factor as >> well. > Which network authentication method would you suggest ? I think what Roland was getting at here is the

Re: [DNG] Dng now alters (some) posts to compensate for DMARC antiforgery

2018-12-06 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > I heartily second your thanks to the mailing list administration team. +1 Having run mail & list servers I've seen the problems caused by the big outfits who are happy to just declare "oh that's no longer valid - we don't care about breaking it". And I reckon I managed a

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Simon Hobson
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Hm ... on devuan mailinglist asking for trainingroom setup for 600 active > user? I don't think server nor clients are M$-based, but I could be wrong > here :-) Windoze isn't the only GUI desktop around ;-) ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Simon Hobson
Bruce Ferrell wrote: > I've found that AD is VERY sensitive to time differences, even in a pure > windows environment. How Windows admins tolerate it I have yet to figure out. AIUI the DEFAULT in a Windoze network is that all the Domain Controllers are also time servers (not NTP, MS's own

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Simon Hobson
g4sra wrote: > To clarify some points raised. > > 1) Approx 200 trainees each year, the full course is three years long (but > class size will be 30 maximum at any one session). By year 3... 600 Users. > After year 3 the trainees details may be purged and resources reclaimed so > the server

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-02 Thread Simon Hobson
Rowland Penny wrote: > If you could set up such a scenario, then yes, your way could be used, > but there was a mention of a server. If you have a server, you usually > get files saved and read, so how do you differentiate between user > 'fred' from computer18 and 'fred' from computer23 ? I did

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