[e-gold-list] Re: share market misunderstandings

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
Yep JPM is correct. A preferred (subscriber) share or PSS means that the shareholder is preferred in the line of payouts when the company is being liquidated. Most often this preferred right comes as a trade off for voting rights. Means preferred subscribers don't get to vote, but will get the fir

[e-gold-list] Re: brokerage disintermediated

2003-06-22 Thread James M. Ray
At 1:47 AM -0400 6/23/03, Robert S.Z. wrote: ... >All that said, I still think DBourse is great. It just would be much >greater with brokerages - or with a decent clearing system... > It would be nice if they automated things a bit more. sci.e-gold.com reveals http://101574-AUG100.e-gold.com is a

[e-gold-list] Re: brokerage disintermediated

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
> > What possible reason would there be to use May Brokerage > --- instant trades rather than funding today, bidding tomorrow and 'maybe' striking next week ;o) > Any user can ALREADY instantly have access **TO THE ECN**, to the > Island, Robert - see? > There is no ECN. There is a trding

[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
1mdc is e-gold itself, but circulated electronically! So if 1mdc is electronically circulated e-gold, what then is e-gold? Gold circulated by carrier pidgins? ;) e-gold's motto or tagline is "gold itself, circulated electronically" hence the joke ... that 1mdc is e-gold itself, ciculated electr

[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
> 1mdc is e-gold itself, but circulated electronically! > So if 1mdc is electronically circulated e-gold, what then is e-gold? Gold circulated by carrier pidgins? Sorry mate, I couldn't resist ;o))) Cheers, Robert. budget & privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net budget & privacy domai

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2003-06-22 Thread Craig Spencer
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[e-gold-list] Re: brokerage disintermediated

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
AsianaGold.com is doing just that! :) Ah yes, but you said your idea was to sell FRACTIONS of them right? that is a top idea!!! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboar

[e-gold-list] brokerage disintermediated

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
The imagine brokerages are starting deal directly with and for their clients. One wants to buy 15 shares at 110gg another wants to sell 20 at 108gg or better. The brokerage gives 15 of the 20 to the buyer, pockets the difference and places the remaining 5 shares on the open market. I'm not sure w

[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
At 3:07 AM -0400 6/21/03, Robert S.Z. wrote: Did you realize, that in theory you could use 'some' shares to back 1MDC term lodgements? It's still gold after all... I know, I know, you'd never do it, but you 'could', you know. It's not so much that it "couldn't be done" -- you could start CurrencyX

[e-gold-list] stock market confusion

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
If it is not clear what part of the company a share represents, then you cannot really call it a stock. But Danny, the amount of a stock issued changes constantly. MSFT stock was at first 1 million shares, so if you owned 1, you owned 1/millionth of the company (sort of), Bill owned 500,000 so h

[e-gold-list] share market misunderstandings

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
The dividends on a preferred stock would be obliged to be paid prior to any distribution to the owners of the business. This is "hopelessly wrong," Craig, "sorry" You seem to think "preferred stock" means stock means shares wherein: "the dividends ... would be obliged to be paid prior to any d

[e-gold-list] yay!

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
someone bought my 99 gram share :) I sold the first ever share. I put back in a gram and bought another one. Hey, I was just joking, someone send me my $10 It now occurs to me someone should put in buy orders just under the market in case someone is trying to sell - to pick 'em up cheap. th

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
At 8:59 AM +1200 6/23/03, Sidd wrote: I think that many people are under the misapprehension that the storage component in a digital currency system is a significant cost. Sidd is absolutely correct of course. But it's a hopeless battle trying to convince people of this :-) -- --- You are curr

[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-Escrow and Stephen Stowell

2003-06-22 Thread PrivaGold
Sidd - As far as why this person has chosen to involve us, I have no idea. I would like to stop this individual just as much as anyone. I appreciate the information you have given. If I have anything new I will certainly share. And just because I am asking YOU questions because the person

[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-Escrow and Stephen Stowell

2003-06-22 Thread Sidd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian, : We have just received notification from PayPal that the person claiming to : be Stephen Stowell has attempted to open a PayPal account using our : [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. This may be so, but as I have repeatedly told you, Stephen Stowell h

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread Sidd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - - Original Message - From: "Danny Van den Berghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : I don't mean the ETF will replace the paper currencies. : But somebody can build a DGC with the gold ETF as a backing, and thus avoid : the storage costs that normally

[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-Escrow and Stephen Stowell

2003-06-22 Thread PrivaGold
Rise, Maybe you are the perpetrator in this whole thing? That would make sense. What is your accusations based on? If you have some problem with PrivaGold why do you not contact us directly? If you have a problem with an order or any other concerns please contact us if not please cease your con

[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-Escrow and Stephen Stowell

2003-06-22 Thread rise
Ian Scam, Could you tell me how did they(Paypal) call you if you don't have an account with them? If you called them,please give their phone number and the person with you have spoken. Privacy alias Akashagold get lost with your bullsh** I know you want advertising that will bring you victims but

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-22 Thread James M. Ray
At 4:38 PM +0300 6/22/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... >> >And this gold ETF has no storage costs. >> ... >> >> Beware. ... Red-flags galore, IMO. > ... >The people who run the fund (a consortium of gold mines) will cover their >expenses by the commission they have on the trade. > This may wo

[e-gold-list] 7 grams of gold won at Gold-Price.net

2003-06-22 Thread GoldPrice
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[e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes

2003-06-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 03:38 AM, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: How much of the business is represented by those shares? Is this shares? Assume I buy all (or 50.1%), do I own the company? Good question, which means, I don't know the answer. If it is not clear what part of the company a share re

[e-gold-list] DMT/LESE (was: Re: DBourse and Other Online Exchanges)

2003-06-22 Thread Joris Bontje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:40:15AM -0700, Ragnar wrote: > Does anyone else besides Frank use DMT/LESE system? Yes, trades on LESE are always made between 2 persons, so Frank would naturally need another party to be able to do transaction. > How many

[e-gold-list] Anonymous Debit MasterCard from Gold Age

2003-06-22 Thread Ragnar
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[e-gold-list] Re: DBourse and Other Online Exchanges

2003-06-22 Thread Ragnar
Does anyone else besides Frank use DMT/LESE system? How many users of this system are out there? How can one reach them? > Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that there is any > 'check it out' > page for the LESE itself, without actually subscribing to it > first. The > basic FAQ's fo

[e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes

2003-06-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 12:08 PM, Craig Spencer wrote: On 22 Jun 2003, at 3:05, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: There are voting rights but I'm not sure how that might work. Where did you get that? Is it secret information you only get after you buy a share? Although I was not sworn to secrecy, h

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
> > And when it comes to e-sugar, e-rice, etc, the base denominator could simple > be a basket of commodities. > But that basket would still need a denominator or 'unit'. In essence you could say that the sugar portion of the basket is 10% of the basket and hence sugar costs 0.10 baskets. But the

[e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes

2003-06-22 Thread Craig Spencer
On 22 Jun 2003, at 3:05, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: > There are voting rights but I'm not sure how that might work. Where did you get that? Is it secret information you only get after you buy a share? Best, CCS -- - Virtual Phonecards -

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > I don't think that we will come full circle or that the new ETF will > replace Coupon currencies because a system that includes e-sugar, e-corn > and e-whathaveyou will still need a base denominator to be quoted in and > exchanged for. I don't mean the ETF will replace the paper currencies. B

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-22 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> >It will be redeemable for real gold bars if you have at least 1 ounces, > >10 shares (too high for most, but it is redeemable and that's what > >matters) > >And this gold ETF has no storage costs. > ... > > Beware. Just as there ain't no such thing as a free lunch, there also > ain't no

[e-gold-list] Metal-Escrow and Stephen Stowell

2003-06-22 Thread PrivaGold
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[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-22 Thread jpm
Unlike JP, they do not repeatedly-explain that they're doing this for marketing reasons 1mdc LITERALLY GIVES AWAY GOLD -- THIS IS FOR REAL. If you make a 1mdc "Lodgement" with a 100 grams or a few kilos, 1mdc pays you a modest little percentage as a bonus -- NO SHIT. Hard to believe but true. Y

[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-22 Thread PrivaGold
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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-22 Thread PrivaGold
George, This has already been done. The person just keeps moving from server to server. I was able to get now 3 of his accounts shut down. Anyway I have ensured that our systems are secure. As for alarialtd.com this is my hosting company and you are seeing that because I was showing headers of

[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-22 Thread PrivaGold
George, This has already been done. The person just keeps moving from server to server. Anyway I have ensured that our systems are secure. As for alarialtd.com this is my hosting company and you are seeing that because I was showing headers of emails which I received. Ian, PrivaGold -

[e-gold-list] Re: New E-Gold Games at WB-CASINO.COM

2003-06-22 Thread White Bear
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[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
Give an idealist half a chance and he'll ruin everything. In other words, enthusiasm is no substitute for know-how. And this is meant as a point to ponder for everyone that endorses one 'innovation' or another. Sure, i can guard a couple of hundred bars on my ranch, although the smelting and remak

[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-22 Thread Katz Global Media
Hi. I didn't say this, but all you need to do is look in the email headers and copy and paste the ip into some software like neotrace, or you can even check the path using "tracert" through a prompt on your local machine. tracert IP address [-d] This returns a list of the routers that are cros

[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-22 Thread FileMatrix
First, Ian, have you checked if the PGP message was actually signed with the key? Then, in the "Message-ID" field you should see that there is "alarialtd.com". Is there any connection with Metal-Escrow? Second, someone here said there are web-sites that have tools to check the source of emails. So

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello Danny, I don't think that we will come full circle or that the new ETF will replace Coupon currencies because a system that includes e-sugar, e-corn and e-whathaveyou will still need a base denominator to be quoted in and exchanged for. The only reason there is money to begin with is becaus

[e-gold-list] DO NOT USE FREECASCARDS!!!

2003-06-22 Thread Roman
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[e-gold-list] "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-22 Thread James M. Ray
At 10:30 AM +0300 6/22/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... >It will be redeemable for real gold bars if you have at least 1 ounces, >10 shares (too high for most, but it is redeemable and that's what >matters) >And this gold ETF has no storage costs. ... Beware. Just as there ain't no such

[e-gold-list] Anybody Still Accepting Credit Cards?

2003-06-22 Thread Graham Kelly
Frank, I have accepted CC funded ecurrency orders for YEARS! Graham Kelly CEO On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:18:12 +, "Frank Mottley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Haven't heard this oldie in a while, but a new-to-e-gold person asked me > today ow to fund his account with a credit card. I told him I

[e-gold-list] Re: Daddy, daddy can I nuke the scammer?

2003-06-22 Thread Robert S.Z.
> I am hearing reports this week from large mainstream hosting providers that they are > receiving many scam sites and have to ditch the > automation and intitiate a strickter screening process. GREAT NEWS :o))) Means they will hire more interns to give unqualified tech support, mess up more hos

[e-gold-list] Re: Daddy, daddy can I nuke the scammer?

2003-06-22 Thread Katz Global Media
I am hearing reports this week from large mainstream hosting providers that they are receiving many scam sites and have to ditch the automation and intitiate a strickter screening process. It seems that this is a recent growth phenomenon of fraud sites trying to find hosts, Maybe they are runn

[e-gold-list] Debit cards at US$35.00. Maestro, Visa Electron, Cirrus

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[e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes

2003-06-22 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > How much of the business is represented by those shares? > > Is this shares? Assume I buy all (or 50.1%), do I own the company? > > Good question, which means, I don't know the answer. > If it is not clear what part of the company a share represents, then you cannot really call it a stock. An

[e-gold-list] gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-22 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
With the new gold ETF being announced for launch this summer, I was wondering how long it will take until somebody builds a GDC based on it. This gold ETF will trade like ordinary shares on the NYSE, at 1/10th of the price of an ounce of gold. It will be redeemable for real gold bars if you have at

[e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes

2003-06-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 01:55 AM, Arik Schenkler wrote: How much of the business is represented by those shares? Is this shares? Assume I buy all (or 50.1%), do I own the company? Good question, which means, I don't know the answer. To me it's just an instrument that pays a 7.2% dividend eac