[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
To reach people who have US Dollars: (i) advertise anywhere, on any medium. Whatever and wherever the ad was, it would reach only _some_ users and be unseen by most. It would suffer from the same weakness as an ad on a market-maker's page. I'm not exactly sure what you mean there. Someone

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Bob
Viking Coder wrote: The main question again is - Why should e-gold bother? To make money. That's the *point* to being in business. To *increase* gross revenue. To increase shareholders' value. They don't need the money, which is usually the primary reason for hosting advertising. Huh?

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
JP, why don't you call Doug and talk to him directly about advertising for this big Mega Corp you want to sell? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
Do you believe that e-gold should keep it's growth rates slower than they can be? No, but there better ways of increasing the growth rate (currently @ ~30%/month) than polluting the spend page with advertising. Untargeted ads is what's needed. Then create a TV ad, take out full page ads

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
As I mentioned in another post, why should MegaCorp be alienated when it cannot directly contact the existing ~95,000 funded account holders? It has a consumer base of millions that it can push an advertising campaign of a new exiciting way to buy our product/service without a credit card

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? How does e-gold delay the sale? Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 14:15, Viking Coder wrote: why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? How does e-gold delay the sale? I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. As a merchant

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? How does e-gold delay the sale? I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. Exactly. You must first acquire e-gold which is slow. The

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
PowerClicks wrote: why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? How does e-gold delay the sale? I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. Exactly. You must first acquire

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
As a merchant myself, I much prefer wiating for sfe e-gold than taking CC and being charge 3%. 3% uncapped and with the very real possibility that the transaction will be cancelled at any in the near future. True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the risks in the

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:12, PowerClicks wrote: True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the risks in the hand of the consumer. When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are constantly

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:09, PowerClicks wrote: Exactly. You must first acquire e-gold which is slow. The only way to do this relatively quickly if to fund using a credit card, but then what's the point? For e-gold and Goldmoney to reach the masses and replace credit cards in online payments,

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the risks in the hand of the consumer. When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are constantly debased, it becomes very easy to make the good

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 14:46, Paul Ewing wrote: No the risk to the customer is that they have no way to get their money back from a merchant in the case of a problem. When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- existant. Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 20:37, Julian Morrison wrote: Which will annoy the national governments enough that they'll likely try and legislate GCs into the ground, or at least tie them and regulate them and require so much snooping on the customers as to effectively nationalize them by default.

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: I am betting that we will see a massive move to gold and private money in the coming decade. Which will annoy the national governments enough that they'll likely try and legislate GCs into the ground, or at least tie them and regulate them and require so much

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
No the risk to the customer is that they have no way to get their money back from a merchant in the case of a problem. When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- existant. Convince the customers of that. One of the highest fears they have is that of using a credit

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- existant. You also don't have to worry about the merchant doing multiple spends, or a spend greater than what you authorized, out of your account. You also don't have to worry about somebody getting your card# and going wild with

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
So you dump in a wodge of money and use it in small amounts until you need to refill. And it's useful as a money store and a means to speculate on gold as well. Hardly rocket science. So how much do you dump? $100, $1000, $1, more? You are assuming everyone is bullish on gold. Apart

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 22:25, PowerClicks wrote: So how much do you dump? $100, $1000, $1, more? You are assuming everyone is bullish on gold. Long term... being bullish on gold is the only thing that make sense. Apart from exchange risk, to use it as a money store you need the trust

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
If they want a halfass currency with elastic attached, which they can jerk back out of the merchant's hands post facto, then the *merchants* will be quite justified in telling them to take a running jump, once they see an alternative is available. DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winner! The

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Geoff
You're not a happy bunny are you jpm. I understand your frustration and sympathise with it. INMHO which I have expressed before, the problem with e-gold becoming more widely used has nothing to do with major firms or conglomerates using it. One of the major problems is getting your account

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread SnowDog
majorbrokerage.com does not give a flying fuck about putting a banner ad on golddirectory.com (sorry Bob! :) ) It's Craig. Otherwise, what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue, if only a few major businesses can afford to put ads there? So what if those businesses simply stay

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users (5) they said what a fucking stupid conversation this is Suggestion: e-gold should have an e-gold adverts list with a check-button to autosubscibe you on the account creation pages. --- You are currently

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Vince Callaway
Suggestion: e-gold should have an e-gold adverts list with a check-button to autosubscibe you on the account creation pages. You will see something like that in about 3 weeks from FreedomHound.com. You can register to receive email solicitations. The kicker is that the fees paid to send to

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread James M. Ray
At 09:16 AM -0700 06/20/2001, Vince Callaway wrote: ... I have finished all the work on the mass payment system, I am just finishing up the interface that lets you subscribe to various marketing lists. Yes, yes, but when do we get CHESS? It's the closest I'll ever come to harnessing sloth, if

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Viking Coder
Yes, yes, but when do we get CHESS? It's the closest I'll ever come to harnessing sloth, if my guess is right! ;^) JMR Working on it, and there will be games other than chess available. Although, it's kinda on the back burner right now. I have several other e-gold related projects that I'm

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread jpm
majorbrokerage.com does not give a flying fuck about putting a banner ad on golddirectory.com (sorry Bob! :) ) It's Craig. Sorry! I'd just been writing Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob in promoting Bobgold .. I mean Bananagold ... Otherwise, what good is the e-gold webpage, as an

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread jpm
3) they said so, how do we reach these users, where do we buy the email addresses of all users or advertise to users (4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users (5) they said what a fucking stupid conversation this is This is an amazing thing. Presumably the same brokerage

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread jpm
what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold. No .. no logic

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Vince Callaway
Don't most of the market-makers sell advertising on their web pages? Isn't _that_ a way of targeting advertising to e-gold users? I have seen marginal results from banner ads on my own site. I get quite a bit of traffic to the site, but the people visiting are generally focused in getting

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Viking Coder
Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold. No .. no logic here? e-gold would be to offer *only* untargeted

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
To reach people who have US Dollars: (i) advertise anywhere, on any medium. Whatever and wherever the ad was, it would reach only _some_ users and be unseen by most. It would suffer from the same weakness as an ad on a market-maker's page. Tried it extensively, more than anyone. A good