Re: [Elecraft] Dayton - Initial Reconnaissance

2009-05-16 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
Great news about the K144XV! I just wonder if the K144XV has the possibility to separate the RX input and TX output and become available at the back panel? (A lot of VHF Dx-ers use only 1 relay, the one in top of the tower, where the preamp is installed as well.) 73's, Evert PA2KW

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-16 Thread Gary Hinson
Good job, Drew! I repeated your steps and confirm the same result: 40m is mapped out. Now that it's repeatable it can be fixed. (BTW, I'm running FW 3.11) Same here on FW 3.14 73, Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Tr: K3 Ref connector

2009-05-16 Thread David Pratt
The connector is referred to on page 17 of the latest K3 Owner's Manual and my K3 rear panel is labelled REF. In consequence, I have bought a Racal-Dana 9474 Rubidium Frequency Standard which is now poised to plug in as soon as the KREF3-EXT is available, hopefully quite soon. 73 David In a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-16 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri, 15 May 2009 09:14:50 -0700 (PDT), Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: Well, you're all ignoring the longevity reduction with heat. I'm certainly not, and I doubt that the designers of the radio have either. K6XX, an engineer who has looked carefully at the design, considers it very well

[Elecraft] Tr: K3 Ref connector

2009-05-16 Thread Craig
Hi Talking about rubidium standards. Does anyone have any experience with buying and using the EFRATOM LPRO-101 rubidium standard that seems to be readily available from the many Chinese sellers on Ebay? I am tossing up between the LPRO rubidium and the Thunderbolt GPS standard. The

Re: [Elecraft] Tr: K3 Ref connector

2009-05-16 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Craig vk...@yahoo.com wrote ... I am tossing up between the LPRO rubidium and the Thunderbolt GPS standard. The Thunderbolt makes a lot of sense since it does not depend on a tube that can wear out or go out of lock. True, but it does assume that the GPS satellites

Re: [Elecraft] Price promo on K3 at Dayton?

2009-05-16 Thread Matt Palmer
charging state tax, totally bogus IMHO, Hendricks was doing the same thing, must be a california thing. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:01 PM, David Wilburn dave.wilb...@verizon.net wrote: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-or-SDR-5000--td457400.html

Re: [Elecraft] K3 COOLING VENTS

2009-05-16 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
From: K2ZLS k2...@optonline.net The other driving factor here, that NOBODY seems to take seriously, is the heating effect on the computer chips and DSP processor. They could use heat sinks, but space limitations may be a problem. My background is computers and I know that HEAT is their

Re: [Elecraft] Tr: K3 Ref connector

2009-05-16 Thread Wes Stewart
I guess I'm missing the reason for having such precision. How can it make sense to have a precision standard for a receiver that changes the tuned frequency when the DSP bandwidth is changed? Wes N7WS --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Craig vk...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Craig vk...@yahoo.com Subject:

[Elecraft] Reminder - UK Elecraft net Sundays 0900 local new start time 3630 KHz

2009-05-16 Thread Dave G4AON
The frequency is 3630 KHz plus or minus the QRM. The new start time is 0900 hours local (0800 UTC) in an effort to try and beat the deteriorating summer band conditions. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100, Acom 1000, dipole __

Re: [Elecraft] Tr: K3 Ref connector

2009-05-16 Thread David Cutter
I wonder if there is a way of using a cheap 60kHz radio controlled clock receiver to phase lock an 'ordinary' 10MHz crystal osc. David G3UNA - In a recent message, Craig vk...@yahoo.com wrote ... I am tossing up between the LPRO rubidium and the Thunderbolt GPS standard. The

[Elecraft] KPA-800 any news at Dayton?

2009-05-16 Thread Roger Dallimore
Any news from Dayton about the long awaited amps 800/1500? I'm pleased to hear about the K144XV though, just what I need. 73 Roger MW0IDX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

[Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread David Wilburn
Recent discussion regarding verticals, internal antenna tuners and remote antenna tuners was very interesting. Based on that discussion, it seemed the optimized solution was a vertical, with good radials, and a remote tuner at the base (generalization). Based on a quick check of remote tuner

[Elecraft] 0.5ppm implemented in firmware?

2009-05-16 Thread howa...@howardz.com
Hi, I am wondering if the K3's firmware has implemented the 0.5 ppm when using the KTCXO3-1 1ppm High Stability Reference Oscillator? N3ZH - Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Craig Smith
I think you have arrived at a good understanding of the benefits/limitations of both the StepIR and the remote tuner approaches. I use the remote tuner approach, but would think that the StepIR should give similar results. And, as you point out, the total costs of the two approaches are

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
If you are talking about multi-band operation, you can expect the SWR to range up to above 60:1 on some bands, particularly where the radiator is near 1/2 wavelength. That's why ATU's designed for operation at the antenna are used for such applications. And, yes, they tend to be expensive. The

[Elecraft] OT - K3 SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread K2MK
I am also curious of the experience of the group with the SteppIR verticals. There is similar up front cost as the vertical / remote tuner solution (assuming a new weather proof tuner). Hi Dave: Sometimes it's hard to tell this Yahoo Group from the SteppIR Yahoo Group. There are so many of

Re: [Elecraft] Price promo on K3 at Dayton?

2009-05-16 Thread SidShusterman
I worked for a Maryland retailer at the Hamvention in the past and opinion has nothing to do with it. If you don't get an Ohio merchant's tax license and collect the tax they [the government] will prosecute you. Matt Palmer wrote: charging state tax, totally bogus IMHO, Hendricks was doing the

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Kok Chen
On May 16, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Craig Smith wrote: I think you have arrived at a good understanding of the benefits/ limitations of both the StepIR and the remote tuner approaches. I use the remote tuner approach, but would think that the StepIR should give similar results. Bear in mind

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread WILLIS COOKE
David, whether a vertical is the best antenna or not depends on where you are and what you are trying to achieve. Some things to consider are: 1. Verticals are generally more subject to man made noise than horizontal antennas. 2 When putting down radials the first radial is most important.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Dave G4AON
Dave, you could do a whole lot worse than read about radial lengths at: http://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/ Look about halfway down the page at the various pdf documents describing his experiments and measurements. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 and fishing pole vertical against 16 radials on 40m

Re: [Elecraft] OT - K3 SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread David Wilburn
How does the antenna interface to the rig(s)? I have not looked at what is going on with the control box, need to understand that better. If it connects to the rig via the serial port, not sure how the rig would then be used by control program or for contesting. Thanks Dave Wilburn NM4M

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Erik N Basilier
David, W.r.t. radials you may want to study the findings of Rudy Severns, N6LF at www.antennasbyn6lf.com. His findings have also been published in QEX (spread over several recent issues). Some of his findings in simplified bullet form: A number of 1/8 wave radials will be better than half that

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread David Wilburn
Good stuff as always Ron, thanks. The multiple wires on the fiberglass is a VERY interesting idea. Plus if I add sections, 43'ish is 5/8 on 20m, the main ban I operate on. I am mainly interested in 40' and up. I'll get 80 and 160 with other wires. Thanks for taking the time to reply Ron.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons

2009-05-16 Thread K1GQ
On 2009-05-14, at 14:26 , Terry Dunlap wrote: I must be missing something here. For the life of my I can't figure why you would want to be changing frequency while transmitting CW (or any other mode) I'm the author of the post that Bill (W4ZV) quoted. My experiments with the PowerMate

Re: [Elecraft] OT - K3 SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread WILLIS COOKE
The motor unit has a stepper motor and a roll of beryllium-copper tape with evenly spaced holes (about 0.75 in apart). A sprocket runs the tape in and out in response to pulses from a computer in the shack. The computer keeps track of the tape position and the tape runs up a fiber-glass tube

Re: [Elecraft] Tr: K3 Ref connector

2009-05-16 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Jerry T. Dowell a...@sbcglobal.net wrote ... Do not hold your breath waiting for it. The last time I talked to Wayne and Eric about it, they said that it is not a high priority with them and that they are not likely to do it soon because very few users are interested in

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
One way to accomplish that at a lower price than a commercial ATU at the antenna is to put in a matching network for each band, relay switched, at the base. I use a 43-foot vertical for 160-20 meters. The higher radiation resistance (compared to other verticals) helps with antenna efficiency

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread David Wilburn
Oh yea, been there. Thats some good stuff. I have been going back and forth between that, some really good info that SteppIR provides on radials, ON4UN's book, and the ARRL antenna book. The two books laid the foundation, but N6LF's page, and the info from SteppIR really tied the pieces

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread David Gilbert
That's a really bad comparison. A good safety ground has no relationship whatsoever to a good radial field. They perform different functions, and while a good radial field might also provide some safety benefits as a distributed path for lightning protection, the reverse is rarely true.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread David Wilburn
Yes that is a good page. I had considered elevating the vertical, but with the fiberglass mast I would need to get several more sections, and then wasn't that crazy about the elevated wires over the back yard. If I recall, he wanted a pair of resonant wires for each band for the elevated

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Erik N Basilier
Dave, I agree. The reason I tried the safety ground was that it was there. The reason I mentioned it here was as an example of what not to do. BTW I later ran the inverted L with just one of the elevated radials with excellent results. There is definitely a point at which a ground radial

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Erik N Basilier
I recall that either Rudy or someone else has shown that a gullwing arrangement where the elevated radial has a sloping section that goes down to a ground-level feedpoint works well, so you wouldn't have add to the mast in order to use it. AFAIK the main drawback with a single elevated radial

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
-Original Message- 6. Don't use a half wavelength at your desired frequency because it is very difficult to match an antenna with nearly infinite reactivity. You can put a coil in series to make it about 0.75 wavelength so you can match it, but it will not be easy.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - K3 SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread David Wilburn
Thanks. I get that. How does it interface to the K3? How does it know it should change bands when you change the rig? I'm thinking back now, and recall some posts about a splitter cable. I'll hit nabble. Thanks Dave Wilburn NM4M WILLIS COOKE wrote: The motor unit has a stepper motor and

[Elecraft] KXV3 vs KXV3A?

2009-05-16 Thread Joe Planisky
Hmmm. I wonder if the new KXV3A will gain or lose any capabilities (besides compatibility with the new 2m module.) And will it differ in price compared to the current KXV3? I've been considering getting a KXV3, and I'm not especially interested in the new 2m module, so I'm trying to

Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 vs KXV3A?

2009-05-16 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
If I were you, I'd wait. You can almost certainly get a KXV3 for free soon. 73, doug From: Joe Planisky jp...@jeffnet.org Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:28:14 -0700 Hmmm. I wonder if the new KXV3A will gain or lose any capabilities (besides compatibility with the new 2m module.) And

Re: [Elecraft] K2 receiver

2009-05-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, Are you certain you have actually lost 3 dB of sensitivity. Looking at the S-meter response at the S-9 level does *not* necessarily indicate a loss in sensitivity. Make an MDS measurement to see if that indicates a sensitivity loss (that will be a valid measurement). If the MDS is ok,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-16 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Sat, 16 May 2009, Jim Brown wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009 09:14:50 -0700 (PDT), Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: Well, you're all ignoring the longevity reduction with heat. I'm certainly not, and I doubt that the designers of the radio have either. K6XX, an engineer who has looked carefully at

Re: [Elecraft] OT - K3 SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread K2MK
Thanks. I get that. How does it interface to the K3? How does it know it should change bands when you change the rig? I'm thinking back now, and recall some posts about a splitter cable. I'll hit nabble. Hi Dave: You can order the SteppIR controller with an optional interface board that

[Elecraft] Battery power requirements

2009-05-16 Thread Randy Johnson
I have operated Field Day with my K2 in the QRP mode and one normal car battery. No problem. I made 460 contacts so calling stations and giving the exchange maybe took 20 seconds. THat means the transmitter was on only on for perhaps 20 seconds per QSO or 8 minutes per hour. Hardly seems

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-16 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
Creative snipping, I'm going to do it too. I was talking about 80-year old radios, and keeping the radio running for that long. You're talking about 10, maybe? Maybe not creative. Maybe factual? I have a 56 year old Collins 75A3. And a Johnson Ranger and Viking Courier just slightly

Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 vs KXV3A?

2009-05-16 Thread Ed, W9EJB
Joe, Sorry, but I have no insight into that question. Eric did say that only the A will be available in the future. I am not sure if there will be price increase for the new one or if the $40 is the price if bundled with the 2M option. Guess we will find out early this coming week. Ed,

[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

2009-05-16 Thread Phil and Christina
Hi gang, The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (Sunday, 5/17/09) at 1800Z. We will start at 14.316 MHz, and QSY if needed. The net control is in western Oregon, but we will need a good east coast or midwest station to relay a few west coast signals that may be too close to net control.

Re: [Elecraft] Battery power requirements

2009-05-16 Thread K7WIA
My question is, Under these circumstances, can I expect the battery to last for the more or less 18 hours that I will be operating? Obviosuly, if not, buying a second battery is a not-very-expensive option. Randy W6SJ The Amp Hour rating tells you how much amperage is available when

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-16 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat, 16 May 2009 15:03:07 -0700 (PDT), Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: Also, you said you had several K3's. You're in a whole different league I'm not sure what that means. I'm a working stiff, but semi-retired. I'm a contester, so I have two K3s, one with a second RX, so I can do SO2R. I sold

Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 vs KXV3A?

2009-05-16 Thread lyle johnson
Hmmm. I wonder if the new KXV3A will gain or lose any capabilities (besides compatibility with the new 2m module.) The KXV3A adds the capability to support internal band modeuls for the K3, such as the new 2 meter module introduced this week. No capabilities of the KXV3 are lost. 73,

Re: [Elecraft] Battery power requirements

2009-05-16 Thread K7WIA
Just doing the math...I would assume that you would draw aprox 20 amps at 100 watts.. you would not be at 100% duty cycle so that would help. I don't think that your rig would work very well when the battery dropped down to 10.5 volts what I would think would be useable would be a battery with a

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread WILLIS COOKE
You are absolutely right Ron. It is possible to end feed a half wavelength antenna. All it takes is very big coils and very high voltage capacitors and a lot of knowledge and usually a lot of money. Not quite so bad if you stay with QRP power levels. And when you are through you have an

Re: [Elecraft] Tr: K3 Ref connector

2009-05-16 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU
I have bought items from fluke.l on eBay who sells them. He sells the GPS-DO, the Efratom device, adn the one I bought which is an FE-5860A Rubidium frequency standard from him and hooked it up last night. I've found fluke.l to be responsive and honest, and he ships quickly. (If you are in a

Re: [Elecraft] OT - K3 SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread David Wilburn
Awesome stuff. Thanks much, just what I was trying to find out. Maybe I have already heard the antenna, when I worked you last November. Guess it depends on what antenna you use on 80m. ;) 73 Dave Wilburn NM4M K2MK wrote: Thanks. I get that. How does it interface to the K3? How does it

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
Willis and others: There is a much cheaper trick than big coils and capacitors that ought to work, and could easily handle high power. Although I have never tried end feeding a half wave antenna, I have had great success in center feeding full wave antennas. The trick is to use an open wire

Re: [Elecraft] Broken K3 Knobs

2009-05-16 Thread W0FK
About 1000 of the knobs were maufactured improperly, which has since been corrected. Eric told me at Dayton that future knobs will have a glass additive in them so that they will be virtually indestructible. Email parts at Elecraft and they will promptly send replacements. 73, Lou, W0FK

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve, Since your simulation showed that the feedpoint had a reactive (-J) component, it was not resonant half wave dipole. You should adjust the antenna length to bring the +/- j component of the impedance to zero. That is the condition of resonance for antennas. You other points were

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yes, but if your rig is at one end of the best antenna run, and if you want to direct feed your antenna to avoid feeder loss, end feed can be great. That's my situation here. I have an Inverted L about 130 feet long fed by a tuner directly above the rig that lets me work all bands easily. With

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Absolutely. There's really only *one* Zepp antenna. It is a 1/2 wave radiator fed at the end with 1/4 wave of open wire line. Used on Zeppelins as a trailing wire antenna. The problem with it is, if you want a low impedance at the rig end of the open wire line, is that it's only good at ONE

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-800 any news at Dayton?

2009-05-16 Thread Bob Cunnings
The funny thing is that an amp *was* developed, shown at Visalia, and announced on this list: http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg21610.html The*Full Break-In Silent Diode T/R* feature listed was very appealing to me. However, your conclusion may well be correct. Bob NW8L

[Elecraft] K3 request - Notch per receiver

2009-05-16 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
I found myself working PSK on the main receiver on 20 and listening to a QSO on 40 on the subreceiver where there was a carrier off and on for quite some period of time. I tried to turn on auto notch on the subreceiver and could not. Posted here - the answer I received was that it is not a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power - 10 watts not a problem

2009-05-16 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
I don't see 10 watts as a problem. How many 2 meter amps do you have on the shelf just waiting to be used again? 40 w 15 years old ($90 new then), two converted police amps (ugly but they work well) both run over 85 watts continuous with 5 watts in ($50) at hamfests if there any still around)

[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2009-05-16 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening, It must be nearing summer because I just spent fifteen minutes shooing the first bat of the season out the front door. For the next few weeks I will see them flying around inside at dusk. I have a better idea of their point of entry but I need the time to block it. Oh well,

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-800 any news at Dayton?

2009-05-16 Thread David Gilbert
That's about what I expected. I've been trying to figure out why some folks seem so keen on an Elecraft amplifier ... it just didn't make a lot of sense to me. Given the already available amps out there from reputable manufacturers (Acom, THP, etc), I'd be surprised if Elecraft would be