Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-05 Thread Dan Presley
Interesting subject. The two big X factors in success that are seldom mentioned are propagation and most importantly-operating skills. The other day I set out for a short SOTA activation wanting to set up a portable 2 element vertical beam developed by JP1QEC. I’ve used it with good results on

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-04 Thread Charlie T
It would seem that using the Diversity Reception capability in several current radios, would be an ideal way to evaluate two antennas, although, I realize having both antennas up at the same time is not always possible. 73, Charlie k3ICH Some antennas work great in some places and not so in

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-04 Thread JP Douglas
Some antennas work great in some places and not so in others depending on ground conditions, from personal experience in granite filled Maine. 73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Sent from my iPad > On Aug 4, 2020, at 5:00 AM, K8TE wrote: > > Kevin is on to something when he compares antennas

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-04 Thread K8TE
Kevin is on to something when he compares antennas instantly which I assume from his description. Most antenna anecdotes state something like "It works much better than...I had up previously. But, both antennas aren't up and in use at the same time. My good friend Alan, K0BG, puts it very well.

Re: [Elecraft] New Antenna Works

2020-08-02 Thread Eric Norris
I agree with Joseph. I have been able to bust pileups on recent dxpeditions such as VP8PJ, VP6R, and VP6D on 30m and 60m, even though I don't have antennas on those bands. The SWR was 10:1 on my 80/40 vertical, and even though I was blissfully aware of the high voltages in the tuner, and the

Re: [Elecraft] New Antenna Works

2020-08-02 Thread rich hurd WC3T
K2MIJ is a big fan of - shall we say - unorthodox antennas. His claim to fame, as it were, is the “Limbo Stick” cut for various bands. You can find him on almost any Internet search. He’s also set up using folding aluminum chairs as radiators and tape measures as counterpoises. Quite

Re: [Elecraft] New Antenna Works

2020-08-02 Thread Joseph Shuman via Elecraft
Even in my professional life I operate using a philosophy of three simple rules. As for antennas: 1. I get a match. 2. I can hear the other Ham. 3. They can hear me. Simple enough, and I have made contacts on my KX2 using an umbrella frame on a stick. Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman,

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-02 Thread Gwen Patton
One of my favorite portable antennas is a homebrewed link dipole for 40, 30, and 20m. I tuned it very carefully for the middle of the CW portion of each band, but it's still fairly well tuned in the SSB portions of 40 and 20. I still use a tuner with it for phone, though, just to keep from

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-02 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
Jim and Dave Let's start with Kevin KD5ONS and his 40m vertical. A great monobander and I'm sure it performs very well on that band. He tells us it works great on most other HF bands as well, using the wonderful Elecraft matching ability. Had he stayed with that one antenna on that one band

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-02 Thread JP Douglas
I prefer to use resonant antennas, either single or multi band and not use a tuner, however, I have encountered that even resonant antennas are not always so due to ground conditions, Case in point, two weeks ago we hiked to the summit of Sentinel Mountain in Baxter State Park. I carried my

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/1/2020 12:12 PM, David Gilbert wrote: My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his generalization that resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant antennas are good. Same here. Most antennas that we can install are some form of compromise. Higher is better. One size fits

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-01 Thread kevinr
My new antenna works well on 80, 40, 30, and 20 meters.  I have not tried the other bands.  While it was cut for 7100 kHz the design is good for other bands too, using the Elecraft tuner.  I am thankful my design does exactly what I wanted it to do within my design criteria.  It is quieter

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-01 Thread James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft
Al, A very refreshing perspective. Thank you! '73 de JIM N2ZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Lorona Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2020 2:22 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-01 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
Dave You read something into my post that was neither there nor intended. This highlights one of the oddities of emails: you can't write them to fit all audiences. David G3UNA > On 01 August 2020 at 20:12 David Gilbert wrote: > > > > For what it may be worth, I'm a staunch supporter of

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-01 Thread David Gilbert
For what it may be worth, I'm a staunch supporter of antenna tuners myself.  I previously used one for many years to get 5 band operation out of two vertical pieces of tubing on my roof back when I lived in Scottsdale, and I just built a high power monster to get full coverage of the low

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-01 Thread Al Lorona
I'm glad Dave added that to the end of his message, because each time the topic of multiband antennas comes up, we are told, "That's too lofty a goal for one antenna. Just put up a resonant antenna and all your troubles will be gone." All except for the problem of operating on all bands without

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-08-01 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
Dave and Jim Our friend made strong mention of SOTA and the KX series of portable rigs and those users often require a multi-band antenna for simplicity and to keep the weight down. Our friend's 40m vertical is also being used on 20m, so, it's reasonable to assume he desires multi-band

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-07-31 Thread David Gilbert
That's a lot of bad advice all rolled into one. 1.  Low voltage at the antenna does not mean low voltage at the shack end of the feedline.  That's why it's called VSWR. 2.  Low voltage at the antenna does not mean low voltages internal to the tuner, which can be quite high depending upon

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-07-31 Thread kevinr
The new, resonant antenna performs well.  It is much quieter than the doublet I have constructed as an inverted-V.  I compare one to the other when I locate a signal and find the resonant antenna works very well.  The real test will be to see where my signal 'lands' across the US and Canada

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/31/2020 2:04 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: With Elecraft matching units you don't need (and it can be undesirable to have) antennas made for a particular band. You make life easier for the matching unit by making your antenna non-resonant on bands you want to use. This statement

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-07-31 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
Behalf Of kevinr > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 5:20 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io > Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! > > I just got done bushwhacking my new antenna up. Three 1/4 wavelength legs > cut for 7100 kHz. It's working as a 1/4 wav

Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-07-30 Thread dwightanderson
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of kevinr Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 5:20 PM To: Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! I just got done bushwhacking my new antenna up. Three 1/4 wavelength legs cut for 7100 kHz. It's working as a 1/4

[Elecraft] New antenna works!

2020-07-30 Thread kevinr
I just got done bushwhacking my new antenna up.  Three 1/4 wavelength legs cut for 7100 kHz.  It's working as a 1/4 wave vertical with a ground plane of the two legs.  I turned on my K3 and checked 40 meters.  Only W1AW currently.  But the new antenna matches on 20 meters too.  So I scanned