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Nah - we drive on the right side, the others drive on what's left. J
From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 4:45 AM
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Nah - we drive on the right side, the others drive on what's left. :)
From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 4:45 AM
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And let's not forget that Americans drive on the wrong
And let's not forget that Americans drive on the wrong side of the road!
From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com]
Sent: 08 November 2016 12:40
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Nothing wrong with that except it ignores human nature
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Does anything have to change for the introduction of these systems? Just
leave all responsibility to the human driver. Fo
They should require a person walking in front of the car waving a red flag to
warn other motorists…
From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com]
Sent: 07 November 2016 13:07
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So a Mercedes automated vehicle would make
ternum manent.
From: Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK)
[mailto:andrew.p.pr...@leonardocompany.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:08 AM
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Subject: [PSES] Automated vehicles [General Use]
Hi all,
Is this a case of Total Recall Johnny Cabs
Is this going to be
John I think the American secret service have enough work to cope with!
From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 08 November 2016 11:11
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Mike
That’s an “interesting” concept: maybe one could also do
And the firmware version number listed on your car insurance documents?
(Software company liable for accidents?)
From: Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK)
[mailto:andrew.p.pr...@leonardocompany.com]
Sent: 08 November 2016 11:08
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postulate a few
people that would make good targets!)?
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com]
Sent: 08 November 2016 10:53
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Hey, maybe with face recognition software and access
Hi all,
Is this a case of Total Recall Johnny Cabs
Is this going to be a case of Software commands versus human intervention and
who or what gets the higher priority.
Also there is going to be a great deal of electronic packages, all round
cameras, lane sensors, range lasers, Doppler and so
(responsibility) away
from the driver could still be 10, 20 or a 100 years away.
Andy
From: Ted Eckert [mailto:07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org]
Sent: 07 November 2016 23:35
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I don’t think anybody is arguing
Subject: Re: [PSES] Automated vehicles.
LMAO….
There was great consternation of the human suitability for control of vehicular
machinery upon the increasing popularity of automobiles.
For most of these contrived situations, the bottom line is the machine would
probably make a better
-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 11:51 AM
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In IOT land the rock will warn the cars before it falls….. ;<)
Gert
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The ethical decisions regarding self-driving cars
are significant and they will extend beyond the
vehicle itself.
This discussion has brought up the possibility of
a day when human-driven cars are banned. Will poor
people be bann
In IOT land the rock will warn the cars before it falls….. ;<)
Gert
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Verzonden: maandag 7 november 2016 20:39
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On November 7, 2016 9:03:11 AM PST,
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>Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:16 AM
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>
>Obviously I can't think of all possibilities, but it seems to me that
>these sort of situations must be corner cases. After all I have never
>foun
, 2016 9:03 AM
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With a little imagination, I can come up with many scenarios that appear
“no-win”. Imagine you are driving down a mountain road with a rock face on one
side and a long drop off a cliff on the other
not necessarily reflect those of my
employer.
From: alfred1520list [mailto:alfred1520l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:16 AM
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Obviously I can't think of all possibilities, but it seems to me that these
sort
2016 6:23 AM
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>Subject: Re: [PSES] Automated vehicles.
>
>This article in The Guardian is related to your first point regarding
>human drivers “gaming” driverless cars to gain an advantage
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/30/volv
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 9:21 AM
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Well, I'm going to put it out there that people may not a trust a car that
might make a decision that the greater good doesn't include the car occupant(s
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> By that time, flying cars will be normal.
>
> With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
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That just adds a third dimension to the issue
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By that time, flying cars will be normal
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What solution would you propose that is obviously both practicable and better?
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
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Perhaps trust may be an issue, but given that the current system of humans
making the decisions kills more than 3,000 people a day according to
https://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/ro
Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261
From: John Woodgate <jmw1...@btinternet.com>
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What solution would you propose that
ulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com]
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 1:07 PM
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So a Mercedes automated vehicle would make the decision of who lives and who
dies. That’s incredible.
Jim H
So a Mercedes automated vehicle would make the decision of who lives and who
dies. That’s incredible.
Jim Hulbert
From: Pawson, James [mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 6:23 AM
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This article
: "Pawson, James" <james.paw...@echostar.com>
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This arti
, patching, public outcry, legistlation, etc.
All the more reason to buy a bicycle.
James
From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com]
Sent: 06 November 2016 02:17
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Subject: [PSES] Automated vehicles.
Although it's Saturday, I'll use this as my Friday Question.
In light
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Automated vehicles.
Regardless of consumer inclination, the inclination of the increasingly
authoritarian powers-that-be will be to mandate such automation when it is
available, so that regardless of the consumer's preferences, automation will
be all
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Automated vehicles.
Regardless of consumer inclination, the inclination of the increasingly
authoritarian powers-that-be will be to mandate such automation when it is
available, so that regardless of the consumer's preferences, automation will
be all
Phone: (256) 650-5261
From: John Allen <john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 16:18:21 -
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Subject: RE: [PSES] Automated vehicles.
Ken
For once (!) I am forced to agree with you,
companies try to
apportion blame and decide "who pays".
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com]
Sent: 06 November 2016 16:10
To: john Allen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
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Regardless of consumer inclinat
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Doug
OR, ref your No 2, to use one as a terrorist weapon (a ³suicide² bomb, but
without the suicide bit = more ³gain², less ³pain², to the ³user² that is
L).
BTW: apart from the ³smart² energy meters now
– don’t need it anyway –,
and I have no intention/inclination whatsoever, nor the money, to
purchase/lease an automated vehicle.
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com]
Sent: 06 November 2016 02:17
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Automated
Although it's Saturday, I'll use this as my Friday Question. In light of two recent reports in the InComplisnce Magazine. I feel prompted to ask if anyone on this forum can address a couple of questions.
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