Re: [Emc-users] Compiling a new kinematic

2007-09-11 Thread Aitor Plaza
We are running 2.1.7 version, we have made a file like our_kins.h and we want to compile it to obtain our_kins.o, so we have thought it could be possible to compile as "run in place" and then copy this file (our_kins.o) to an installed version, is it a good idea? The problem is that just putting ou

[Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Neil Buck
I'm half way through retrofitting a Cincinnati VMC with a MESA m5i20 setup. I would welcome some advice as to the best way to control the spindle. My goal is to be able to do rigid tapping and fully automatic tool changes. My thoughts are that since I am planning on adding a 4th rotary axis very so

Re: [Emc-users] Compiling a new kinematic

2007-09-11 Thread Alex Joni
Yes you are correct. First you copy the file our_kins.c to src/emc/kinematics/ Then you change the Makefile: - look for rotatekins somewhere towards the end of the file and add the following obj-m += our_kins.o our_kins-objs := emc/kinematics/our_kins.o This will look for src/emc/kinematics/ou

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 10:28:37PM +, Neil Buck wrote: > I'm half way through retrofitting a Cincinnati VMC with a MESA m5i20 setup. I > would welcome some advice as to the best way to control the spindle. My goal > is > to be able to do rigid tapping and fully automatic tool changes. My thoug

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:57:48AM -0500, Chris Radek wrote: > > If your spindle drive can do this (you can test > with S300 M3, then M4) it will tap just fine. You should pick a > speed that allows the spindle to reverse in "a few" turns. One more thing I remember hearing: VFDs may need a braki

Re: [Emc-users] Compiling a new kinematic

2007-09-11 Thread John Kasunich
Aitor Plaza wrote: > We are running 2.1.7 version, we have made a file like our_kins.h and we > want to compile it to obtain our_kins.o, so we have thought it could be > possible to compile as "run in place" and then copy this file (our_kins.o) > to an installed version, is it a good idea? > The pr

Re: [Emc-users] Compiling a new kinematic

2007-09-11 Thread Jeff Epler
'comp' is the tool for compiling HAL components that are implemented in a single .c file. Kinematics modules are one kind of HAL component. If you are using the package version, install emc2-dev and build-essential packages using Package Manager or the commandline. Then, use 'comp' to compile an

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Neil Buck wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:28:37 + (UTC) > From: Neil Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20 > > I'm half way thro

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Anders Wallin
> Dont know if the driver has been updated to work with it, but thre has been a > 8 axis 5I20 HOSTMOT configuration around for some time. (If you dont need > more than 1 connectors worth of I/O) > Peter Wallace the driver has not been updated for 4 vs. 8-axis HOSTMOT. Likewise it would be nice

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Jon Elson
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 10:28:37PM +, Neil Buck wrote: > >>I'm half way through retrofitting a Cincinnati VMC with a MESA m5i20 setup. I >>would welcome some advice as to the best way to control the spindle. My goal >>is >>to be able to do rigid tapping and fully automatic tool changes. My

Re: [Emc-users] gerber files to g-code?

2007-09-11 Thread Sven Mueller
Jon Elson wrote on 09/09/2007 19:24: > Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: >> Heh. I remembered our discussion about G-code formats on a short car >> ride (maybe headed to Peoria?), and I figured you'd know what all of it >> meant. >> > Well, after having written my own Gerber to raster converter > pro

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Neil Buck
Chris, Thanks for the info. I'll give the filtered PWM option a try. I'm in the process of hooking up the spindle encoder at the moment so will soon see what resolution it's got. I can see from the wiring diagram that it's A & B quad and index but I've no idea what resolution. The axis motors all

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Neil Buck
Peter, Anders In my case 8 axis support in the driver would be nice for the next project I'm working on (conversion of a Wessel CNC router to EMC control + AC Servos + Perske spindle) although for the VMC I'm retrofitting at the moment I need all the IO I can get. The IO for the toolchanger is lo

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 22:28 +, Neil Buck wrote: > I'm half way through retrofitting a Cincinnati VMC with a MESA m5i20 setup. I > would welcome some advice as to the best way to control the spindle. My goal > is > to be able to do rigid tapping and fully automatic tool changes. My thoughts >

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Peter C. Wallace
SNIP > > I have limited knowledge and experience with electronics, but here is > some of my recent experience with my spindle VFD. > > Just for testing, I used a parallel port out put with an RC filter and > found that to smooth the signal, the capacitor had to be quite large > which also slowed th

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 01:25 PM 9/11/2007, you wrote: >Doesnt EMC have a PDM output option? >This would be _much_ easier to filter than PWM. > >With PDM a ~.1 second time constant filter should be fine > > > > > > >Peter Wallace >Mesa Electronics > >(\__/) >(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your >(")_(

[Emc-users] Homing - zeroing - touch off

2007-09-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for your comments Andy but I can't see anything wrong in my ini file and still can't understand what is going on. The problem I was describing of not being able to reliably set zero home positions occurs when I first switch the machines on. For instance, I just turned on to set up a new

Re: [Emc-users] Homing - zeroing - touch off

2007-09-11 Thread Ray Henry
Take a look in the .var file you are running. Variable 5220 should be 1 and the rest zero unless you are trying to preserve some offsets. Rayh On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 19:54 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for your comments Andy but I can't see anything wrong in my ini > file and stil

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 11:25 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > SNIP > > > > I have limited knowledge and experience with electronics, but here is ... snip > > Kirk Wallace > > > > Doesnt EMC have a PDM output option? > This would be _much_ easier to filter than PWM. > > With PDM a ~.1 second time c

Re: [Emc-users] gerber files to g-code?

2007-09-11 Thread Dale
If Eagle can import the gerber file and convert it to an Eagle board the n the trace isolation gcode from an Eagle board program is already done. I'' look later tonight to see if Eagle will import the gerber files or if a User Language Program is needed and/or available. I've never needed to tr

Re: [Emc-users] Homing - zeroing - touch off

2007-09-11 Thread Jeff Epler
There are a bunch of different things that affect the relationship between machine coordinates and gcode coordinates. "G5x coordinate systems": At any time, one G5x coordinate system is in effect. Normally the G54 coordinate is in effect at emc startup and after readahead reaches M2.

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: > As far as the "up to speed" signal - for > tapping, the active axis is electronically geared to the spindle, so no > matter what the spindle is doing the axis will try to follow it. I am > thinking that the "up to speed" signal might be used for fault sensing > for spindles w

[Emc-users] RPM of Steppers

2007-09-11 Thread John Thornton
I notice on stepper charts for speed vs torque that the bigger the motor the lower the RPM at max. Looking at the Nema 23 STP-Mtr-23079 from Automation Direct the Chart stops at 1350 RPM. http://web1.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Stepper_S ystems/Motors_-z-_Cables/ST

Re: [Emc-users] gerber files to g-code?

2007-09-11 Thread Jon Elson
Sven Mueller wrote: > Jon Elson wrote on 09/09/2007 19:24: > >>Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: >> >>>Heh. I remembered our discussion about G-code formats on a short car >>>ride (maybe headed to Peoria?), and I figured you'd know what all of it >>>meant. >>> >> >>Well, after having written my own G

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control with MESA m5i20

2007-09-11 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 11:25 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > >>SNIP >> >>>I have limited knowledge and experience with electronics, but here is > > ... snip > >>>Kirk Wallace >>> >> >>Doesnt EMC have a PDM output option? >>This would be _much_ easier to filter than PWM. Isn

Re: [Emc-users] RPM of Steppers

2007-09-11 Thread Jon Elson
John Thornton wrote: > I notice on stepper charts for speed vs torque that the bigger the motor > the lower the RPM at max. Looking at the Nema 23 STP-Mtr-23079 from > Automation Direct the Chart stops at 1350 RPM. > > http://web1.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Stepper_