Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Control

2021-06-14 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Chris, At the moment my harmonic drive 4th axis is still sitting in this 4 part 3D printed prototype. http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/HarmonicDrive/FullSize-6.jpg There have been so many other the go that I just haven't had time to cast it however it does move using the STMBL drive. Need

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Control

2021-06-14 Thread Chris Albertson
Plastic works because it is a "mini" mill. I would use metal for a larger industrial sized machine. But even if you are making a cast iron part, make the pattern on a 3D printer. On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 8:04 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > Thank you for posting that. > So in the places where I'd

Re: [Emc-users] all the MESA cards talk made me think

2021-06-14 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Ron, Well other than the rather annoying motor start-up when LinuxCNC is stopped issue the reason for the test set is to now install a different BIT file into the 7i92H, use a slightly modified to replace the PWM/DIR with stepper. 14 1 IOPort StepGen 5

Re: [Emc-users] all the MESA cards talk made me think

2021-06-14 Thread R C
that's ool.  Once I clear out my "work bench" a bit,  I might et up a few things,  possbly even with an RPI4 or so, and just test some setups. I wonder if I have more fun playing/messing with these CNC machines the actually doing stuff with them  (which I want to, I have that telescope

Re: [Emc-users] all the MESA cards talk made me think

2021-06-14 Thread John Dammeyer
Here's my test setup. from left to right. 1. MESA 7i92H connected via Ethernet to the Pi4 1Gb sitting under my monitor. The Pi is running LinuxCNC. 2. Probotix Break out Board and although it could be isolated I'm using the same 12V supply for both sides with the BLK/WHT twisted wires.

Re: [Emc-users] all the MESA cards talk made me think

2021-06-14 Thread R C
On 6/14/21 3:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 01:45, R C wrote: What would be the best way to replace the BOB-LPT stuff? The most direct replacement for the PCI parallel port card would be a Mesa 5i25. (or 6i25 if you are PCIe) That looks just like a parallel port card, and

Re: [Emc-users] all the MESA cards talk made me think

2021-06-14 Thread R C
On 6/14/21 3:50 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 02:16, R C wrote: I have seen the 7i92  mentioned, and others,  can they do multiple stepper motors?  (right now I am using a parallel BOB,  that connects to  steopper drivers (ala DM542), which drive the actual steppers.) The

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Control

2021-06-14 Thread John Dammeyer
Thank you for posting that. So in the places where I'd make a pattern and cast from scrap aluminium you 3D print the part. Very nicely done! John > -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: June-14-21 7:44 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Control

2021-06-14 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 9:43 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > Have you any photos of the 3D printed motor mounts etc? Direct drive or > belt driven? The 3Nm implies size 23 so I'll guess direct drive. > John > THis shows X and Y. https://youtu.be/wupYP2NNsXI?t=33 This shows the Z axis. On this

Re: [Emc-users] Running 440V 3PH 2 speed motor off 220V 3PH or 1PH?

2021-06-14 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Voltage doubling VFD, but they start at 5 horsepower. https://www.phasetechnologies.com/voltage-doubling Says using a transformer on the input of a VFD is a bad idea. Three doubling transformers in parallel, one per phase, might work, but so far it seems that if it involves 480V 5HP is the

[Emc-users] auto gearbox component

2021-06-14 Thread andrew beck
hey everyone just researching about gearbox components and thought I would ask some questions before I get into it properly I have a two speed gearbox in my cnc lathe with hydraulic solenoids to change gear and sensors to check it is in correct gear and I have a spindle encoder 1 to 1 on

Re: [Emc-users] Master builds

2021-06-14 Thread jrmitchellj
Got home & checked the debian-version file, which states 7.11. As I recall that is Wheezy. That is only 5 years old. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the

Re: [Emc-users] Running 440V 3PH 2 speed motor off 220V 3PH or 1PH?

2021-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 23:36, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > > The motor is in a Hardinge UM mill, less than 1 horsepower. It cannot be > switched to 220V. Any way to get it running off 220 volts, three or single > phase, without breaking a few banks? Yes. Find a significantly

Re: [Emc-users] Running 440V 3PH 2 speed motor off 220V 3PH or 1PH?

2021-06-14 Thread Bari
Sorry, Ignore my last post they are are all single phase when under $200 and <3KW. On 6/14/21 5:33 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: The motor is in a Hardinge UM mill, less than 1 horsepower. It cannot be switched to 220V. Any way to get it running off 220 volts, three or single

Re: [Emc-users] Running 440V 3PH 2 speed motor off 220V 3PH or 1PH?

2021-06-14 Thread Bari
Maybe https://www.ebay.com/itm/254550292370  if you're in the states. A few on ebay for <$200. On 6/14/21 5:33 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: The motor is in a Hardinge UM mill, less than 1 horsepower. It cannot be switched to 220V. Any way to get it running off 220 volts, three or

[Emc-users] Running 440V 3PH 2 speed motor off 220V 3PH or 1PH?

2021-06-14 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
The motor is in a Hardinge UM mill, less than 1 horsepower. It cannot be switched to 220V. Any way to get it running off 220 volts, three or single phase, without breaking a few banks? ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Question about Raspberry Pi 4 reliability

2021-06-14 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 09:52, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > I've also read that the Pi4 8GB is not ideal for LinuxCNC. Apparently it > > has issues with that much memory on the Pi. It works best > with 4GB apparently. > > Well, the existing

Re: [Emc-users] Question about Raspberry Pi 4 reliability

2021-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 09:52, John Dammeyer wrote: > I've also read that the Pi4 8GB is not ideal for LinuxCNC. Apparently it has > issues with that much memory on the Pi. It works best with 4GB apparently. Well, the existing preemp-rt kernel when I built the 2.8 release packages was 32-bit,

Re: [Emc-users] Master builds

2021-06-14 Thread jrmitchellj
Well, that machine is not on Buster. It must be time to install that newer motherboard and the current OS. I bought a i5 motherboard & CPU about 9 months ago for it. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from

Re: [Emc-users] Master builds

2021-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 21:30, jrmitchellj wrote: > > In the last few weeks, I have noticed that I am not getting any new builds > of the Master branch. You can see the latest build here: http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/grid But: Which Debian / Ubuntu version are you running? Master is now

Re: [Emc-users] Master builds

2021-06-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 14 June 2021 16:26:50 jrmitchellj wrote: > In the last few weeks, I have noticed that I am not getting any new > builds of the Master branch. > Have we reached perfection, or should I be looking for an issue with > my machine? > Might be your machine J. Ray, I probably got fresh updates

[Emc-users] Master builds

2021-06-14 Thread jrmitchellj
In the last few weeks, I have noticed that I am not getting any new builds of the Master branch. Have we reached perfection, or should I be looking for an issue with my machine? --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the

Re: [Emc-users] Question about Raspberry Pi 4 reliability

2021-06-14 Thread Bari
On 6/13/21 9:18 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Wow, that escalated quickly! LOL. Nah, we just get trolls on the list from time to time. They don't have any solutions, just random complaints and half baked ideas. Well, I've been reading everyone and I guess I'll stay with the normal PC

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBoneBlack

2021-06-14 Thread John Dammeyer
I too have a Beagle with a xylotex cape just sitting there looking for a project. One option I've thought of, and it might be ideal for that is scrap the hdmi and on board flash to get more I/O. Then connect an SPI 10" screen and the ability to support a key button matrix of up to say 64

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Control

2021-06-14 Thread John Dammeyer
Have you any photos of the 3D printed motor mounts etc? Direct drive or belt driven? The 3Nm implies size 23 so I'll guess direct drive. John > -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: June-14-21 8:41 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBoneBlack

2021-06-14 Thread Robert Murphy
Ok Andy that sounds great. I’ll pull out the little beast and give it a whirl. One question tho, will this build on Wheezy or do I need something “more” modern. It would be great to put the BBB and the breakout boards back into service, even for an overkill project. Cheers Rob Composed with my

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Control

2021-06-14 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, I thought about reverse engineering the spindle motor controller and fitting it with a conector for external PWM input but my goal with this CNC conversion was to try and do the lowest cost and easiest possible conversion and document it. So at every decision point I take the simplest route

Re: [Emc-users] Carousel. ordinary encoder as sensor, comments on improvements?

2021-06-14 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2021-06-14 kl. 15:45, skrev andy pugh: On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 14:24, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: It would probably work if position is scaled down to correct number of pockets first adding an offset to get angle of the pockets correct. I had rather assumed that the encoder index would be

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Control

2021-06-14 Thread Todd Zuercher
Yes, I have 3ph vfds being controlled by Linuxcnc. On two multi spindle routers. One with 8 spindles and one with 6 spindles. The 8 spindle machine is using MB2hal to control the routers, on/off and set/monitor the speed (AC Tech brand VFDs). The 6 spindle machine is using parallel ports and

Re: [Emc-users] Carousel. ordinary encoder as sensor

2021-06-14 Thread David Roseman, MD
Hi Rita Now that you are retired, I thought you might be interested in this email. The group is heavily involved with open source machining. As this posting indicates, they are doing serious work. This isn't exactly the kind of woodworking that you have expressed an interest in, but it

Re: [Emc-users] Carousel. ordinary encoder as sensor

2021-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 14:24, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > It would probably work if position is scaled down to correct number of > pockets first adding an offset to get angle of the pockets correct. I had rather assumed that the encoder index would be aligned to the base pocket. > Think it

Re: [Emc-users] Carousel. ordinary encoder as sensor

2021-06-14 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2021-06-14 kl. 14:48, skrev andy pugh: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 12:15, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Do not find any modulo arithmetic in hal, it is very useful then waiting for a particular angle both if value overflow or just accumulate. May be solved by loop and modulo operator in g-code

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBoneBlack

2021-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 08:32, Robert Murphy wrote: > What I was thinking of is a simple GUI control the position of the > fence, and hooking a ESP32 (via ethernet) to do the motion > control.. This sounds like it might be simple enough to do with a BBB and PRU stepgens or even with software

Re: [Emc-users] Carousel. ordinary encoder as sensor

2021-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 12:15, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > Do not find any modulo arithmetic in hal, it is very useful then waiting > for a particular angle both if value overflow or just accumulate. May be > solved by loop and modulo operator in g-code but maybe adding to > carousel component

Re: [Emc-users] all the MESA cards talk made me think

2021-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 02:16, R C wrote: > I have seen the 7i92 mentioned, and others, can they do multiple stepper > motors? (right now I am using a parallel BOB, that connects to steopper > drivers (ala DM542), which drive the actual steppers.) The Mesa FPGA card replaces the parport

Re: [Emc-users] all the MESA cards talk made me think

2021-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 01:45, R C wrote: > What would be the best way to replace the BOB-LPT stuff? The most direct replacement for the PCI parallel port card would be a Mesa 5i25. (or 6i25 if you are PCIe) That looks just like a parallel port card, and hooks up in exactly the same way.

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Control

2021-06-14 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
How old is that mill? Those Chinese mini mills and lathes have had PWM spindle motor controllers for many years. I used to have a Grizzly mini lathe with a low 3 digit serial number, probably from the first batch they imported. I was at least the 3rd owner and I had to fix a lot of issues, both