[Emc-users] CNC terminology

2020-03-26 Thread R C
Hello group/list, So I am at home most of the time, working from home, like most of us probably, but since I can't really do my job from home I have been directed to look into things like "Additive Manufacturing", g-codes etc etc... I was just thinking (ok ok ..  I am bored...)  But if

Re: [Emc-users] Back to confusing puzzles. SSR failure mode short circuit!

2020-02-21 Thread R C
I actually did sort of the same thing,  added an SSR so I can independently power steppers and spindle. (to preserve the functionality of the buttons/switches on a Paxton/Patterson enclosure for a Sherline lathe and mill.) I didn't read the whole  thread but you said "but its not

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-08 Thread R C
I saw linuxcnc 2.9.x mentioned a few times. where can it be downloaded from? thanks, Ron On 2/4/20 9:23 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-04 07:40, Stuart Stevenson wrote: A number of years ago (circa 2000) I experienced problems with updating to a new version of Linux. This was on

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-25 Thread R C
right,  that is what the situation is now, you would need encoders, however, these encoders now are checked by the machine (linux-cnc) as the situation is now. On 1/25/20 9:50 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 01/24/2020 11:21 PM, R C wrote: That makes perfect sense   if never anything goes wrong

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-24 Thread R C
That makes perfect sense   if never anything goes wrong what if one motor stalls, what if one signal needs to be re-transmitted? If neither of that is corrected...  one axis is off "time shifted" relative to the other. For precision sake, you would need feedback from one axis to the

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-24 Thread R C
exactly That is what is called inter process communication  (IPC)  in the computing world.  There are all kinds of systems to deal with that in large scale supercompters.   individual compute nodes have a means to communicate with other compute nodes In this case it would mean,   "hey

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-24 Thread R C
On 1/24/20 1:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 24 January 2020 15:03:46 bari wrote: One thing that has come up when using LinuxCNC to control robots in an automation cell is controlling more than one robot or machine at a time. Or having LinuxCNC control the hand-off of parts between

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-24 Thread R C
How are you going to do ethernet, wifi or "what ever communication"  that is reliable (which means the process has to be able to take priority), without using PCI or anything like it on PC style hardware, or even non-PC computing hardware? If you'd use anything affordable (which means

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread R C
I always wondered why FPGAs are(still?)  that popular... Way back when, in some research work I did, in my field they were mostly used for building stuff that didn't exist, as a test bed. For fun we once implemented a univac on it, because we could. Ron On 1/23/20 12:29 PM, Peter C.

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread R C
That is definitely true, I think.  Also, I think that RTOS is sort of a left-over from a few decades ago, because back then ther were no other options.  Nowadays it still has a place, although of course there are different way more sophisticated solutions. That pretty much works the same is

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-22 Thread R C
makes me wonder why a "cnc controller" doesn't work like a printer (yeah sounds naive), but 30-40 years ago it was unthinkable to print something half decent without using ink and a hand cranked machine (stenciling). Now you can have a color printer for next to nothing, you send the job by

Re: [Emc-users] X forwarding with linux-cnc

2020-01-21 Thread R C
that is kind of what I am doing.  I am not running any CNC machines, I am just 'messing' with some stepper motors, drivers, io boards and some sensors to see if i can make that contraption work. X-forwarding is easy, because you can see if things work as they are supposed to, and it's easier

Re: [Emc-users] X forwarding with linux-cnc

2020-01-20 Thread R C
- From: R C Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:52 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] X forwarding with linux-cnc Hello, is there a way to do X-forwarding work with linux-cnc applications? (running stepconf for example?) I have a test setup on a workbench

Re: [Emc-users] X forwarding with linux-cnc

2020-01-20 Thread R C
e: On 2020-01-19 16:50, R C wrote: well,  I just want to test a setup, it by no means is going to be a permanent setup So X-forwarding would work, and is easy Ron Running X-windows on CNC machines makes as much sense as mounting saddle on a caw. Based on my research LinuxCNC is undes

Re: [Emc-users] X forwarding with linux-cnc

2020-01-19 Thread R C
well,  I just want to test a setup, it by no means is going to be a permanent setup So X-forwarding would work, and is easy Ron On 1/19/20 5:25 PM, grumpy--- via Emc-users wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2020, Chris Albertson wrote: Yes, but checkout VNC as well.  Sometimes VNC can be faster.    I

Re: [Emc-users] X forwarding with linux-cnc

2020-01-19 Thread R C
hink it might depend on what kind of computer you have in from of you where the physical display is. VNC is pretty good to exporting an entire desktop, X11 forwarding for exploring one app's window. On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 3:53 PM R C wrote: Hello, is there a way to do X-forwarding

Re: [Emc-users] who is building big cnc machines with linuxcnc

2020-01-19 Thread R C
a 100HP motor, is about 75kW, so that's a little over 200kW for 3 of them,  they might see a little blip.. especially near a 'larger' area I work in HPC, we deal with dozens of mW. I actually did get calls for restarting "something"  being told...  please don't do that like that ... (me and

[Emc-users] Never Mind: X forwarding with linux-cnc

2020-01-19 Thread R C
it works,  just needs some extra X11 stuff installed. Forwarded Message Subject:X forwarding with linux-cnc Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:51:46 -0700 From: R C To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Hello, is there a way to do X-forwarding work with linux-cnc

[Emc-users] X forwarding with linux-cnc

2020-01-19 Thread R C
Hello, is there a way to do X-forwarding work with linux-cnc applications? (running stepconf for example?) I have a test setup on a workbench, and don't like walking back and forth a lot thanks, Ron ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] who is building big cnc machines with linuxcnc

2020-01-19 Thread R C
I run a seismograph, you can triangulate signals.  However, I don't know why they would see it (or be disturbed by it), the signals they'd be looking for  are < 10Hz (cheap geophones) or < 1Hz for anything real serious.  Also, since it is not a seismic signal (I am pretty sure)  they

Re: [Emc-users] A heads up on a product

2020-01-09 Thread R C
the fact you sell a vast amount of products, build by others, is not an excuse for lack of quality of what you sell. BUT ...  not everything that technically/specs wise should work, will. Technically an SATA drive, with a  USB<-->SATA converter would work BUT for a example a laptop

Re: [Emc-users] A heads up on a product

2020-01-09 Thread R C
On 1/9/20 5:41 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 09 January 2020 19:13:56 R C wrote: if you use USB connected drives on a Pi, and also the network, you're switching between eth/wifi and USB "A LOT" (it uses the same hardware/chipset). If you power the No wifi, it

Re: [Emc-users] A heads up on a product

2020-01-09 Thread R C
backed (USB/ETH/wifi,  etc) also it is an ARM based "thing"  so things like interrupts and clocktick stuff is always an issue. Ron On 1/9/20 5:31 PM, Thaddeus Waldner wrote: On Jan 9, 2020, at 6:13 PM, R C wrote: if you use USB connected drives on a Pi, and also the netwo

Re: [Emc-users] A heads up on a product

2020-01-09 Thread R C
if you use USB connected drives on a Pi, and also the network, you're switching between eth/wifi and USB "A LOT" (it uses the same hardware/chipset). If you power the drives through USB that is not a good thing. For modest amounts of data I just use a/the SD card (the video/photo ones can

Re: [Emc-users] Merry Christmas 2019

2019-12-24 Thread R C
Merry Christmas, to you and everyone else too.  :) On 12/24/19 7:37 PM, Thomas J Powderly wrote: Merry Christmas to all tomp ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port definitions

2019-12-21 Thread R C
ucts_id=28=q44slh22e8lckb4jrudvs2skj0 On 22 Dec 2019, at 11:56 am, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: that looks like something I would need. What parallel cable do you use?  a straight through?  I would love to get rid of the proprietary stuff in those cns machines. The hardware I w

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port definitions

2019-12-21 Thread R C
-CNC-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Controller-2-Phase-128-Microstep-f-42-57-Motor-/282070570888 On 22 Dec 2019, at 11:48 am, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: I actually saw that one, years ago when I was trying to get them to work, there was not that much known about these things.

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port definitions

2019-12-21 Thread R C
-cam-software-post153062.html#post153062 they don't use standard parallel port pinouts. On 22 Dec 2019, at 11:21 am, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, yeah I figured that out a good while ago, using turbocnc.  I'll play with it a bit more.  But at some point I probably want

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port definitions

2019-12-21 Thread R C
be too far off. They look like Sherline machines, I guess they have a third party parallel BOB and drivers, do you have any info on them. On 22 Dec 2019, at 10:45 am, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: I am actually tempted to replace all the electronics in my CNC machines, and s

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port definitions

2019-12-21 Thread R C
Ok,  that seems to be working now, even in stepconf (wonder what was going on there). I have the mill working (sort of), I can make the XYZ axes work, that is, I can jog them in stepconf (the axis moves one step every time I click one of the green arrows, I expected it to continuously

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port definitions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
he config. On 20 Dec 2019, at 6:15 pm, R C wrote: I tried changing that in that .hal config file by changing all occurrences: parport.0.pin-02-out to parport.1.pin-02-out and parport.2.pin-02-out (for LP1, LPT2 and LPT3 respectively) linuxcnc doesn't seem to like that, throws er

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port definitions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
elect the number of parallel ports Then in the Parallel Port 1 page you can select the parallel port using the numbers 0,1 or 2 in the Parport BaseAddress entry Then in the Parallel Port 2 page you can select the parallel port using the numbers 0,1 or 2 in the entry that has no label in the bottom centre

[Emc-users] parallel port definitions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
Hello, when I run stepconf, it creates a *.hal file. It seems that the parallel port  used in there by default is "parport0"  (I have 3 parallel ports, 0, 1 and 2). can I create a config for a specific port?  or di I manually need to edit them? (I would like to have one machine on

Re: [Emc-users] Update: Re: linuxcnc versions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
ill On 20 Dec 2019, at 3:52 pm, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Philip, I'll download that one and see if it is the same as what I had. did you use the GUI, txt installer or th live installer? Ron ___ Emc-users mai

Re: [Emc-users] Update: Re: linuxcnc versions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
Phill On 20 Dec 2019, at 1:36 pm, R C wrote: Hello all, finally had some time to install the linux iso (LinuxCNC 2.7.14 Debian 7 Wheezy <http://www.linuxcnc.org/iso/linuxcnc-2.7.14-wheezy.iso <http://www.linuxcnc.org/iso/linuxcnc-2.7.14-wheezy.iso>>) again, I used the link as mentio

Re: [Emc-users] Update: Re: linuxcnc versions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
the one I did. Dave On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 21:54 R C wrote: because a bunch of people were recommending it. Also, I managed to install "LinuxCNC Uspace 2.7.0 Debian 9 Stretch" <http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/> BUT: there are two issues with that. 1:

Re: [Emc-users] Update: Re: linuxcnc versions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
.iso> ??? Ron On 12/19/19 7:46 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 21:39 R C wrote: Hello all, finally had some time to install the linux iso (LinuxCNC 2.7.14 Debian 7 Wheezy <http://www.linuxcnc.org/iso/linuxcnc-2.7.14-wheezy.iso>) again, I used the link as mentio

Re: [Emc-users] Update: Re: linuxcnc versions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
e in the system, which I can dodge by turning other drives off in the BIOS 2: There are issues with pyton,  it is trying to use something that is not there, files missing, when I start the "stepper config" Ron On 12/19/19 7:46 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 21:

[Emc-users] Update: Re: linuxcnc versions

2019-12-19 Thread R C
s add a switch that shares, keyboard, mouse and display between two PCs. John Dammeyer -Original Message- From: R C [mailto:cjv...@gmail.com] Sent: December-15-19 6:11 PM To: linuxcnc-users-list Subject: Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions I don't know if it is ok to post a screensho

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-15 Thread R C
,  one for each specific parallel port?) thanks, Ron On 12/15/19 3:50 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 12/15/19 11:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 19:39, R C wrote: That was  a couple of weeks ago, mayb even 2 months. The Wheezy ISO was updated to reference the archive

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-15 Thread R C
happens. thanks, Ron I downloaded it from here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/iso/linuxcnc-2.7.14-wheezy.iso On 12/15/19 3:50 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 12/15/19 11:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 19:39, R C wrote: That was  a couple of weeks ago, mayb even 2 months

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions, repository URL

2019-12-15 Thread R C
Ok, I'll try it again, tomorrow probably. Ron On 12/15/19 1:04 PM, N wrote: when I installed the 2.7.14 version,  it wants to connect to a repo that doesn't exist. My HEAD got totally detached but remember I had to switch repository url before that happened a while ago.

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-15 Thread R C
I'll download them both again, and install them, probably omorrow. it's the link on the linuxcnc download page, right? Ron On 12/15/19 12:53 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 19:39, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: That was  a couple of weeks ago, mayb even

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-15 Thread R C
That was  a couple of weeks ago, mayb even 2 months. I'll try to install the new ones on some swappable disks tomorrow. On 12/15/19 12:24 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 19:23, R C wrote: my machine is connected through a switch. I checked to see where it is trying to connect

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-15 Thread R C
the install the dongle worked just fine. This is using an ISO pulled about a month ago. Dave On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 2:07 PM R C wrote: when I installed the 2.7.14 version, it wants to connect to a repo that doesn't exist. It can't find some repo and aborts the install (doesn't even start thye

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-15 Thread R C
On 12/15/19 12:15 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 19:04, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: when I installed the 2.7.14 version,  it wants to connect to a repo that doesn't exist. That should have been fixed in the currently-available image. Are yo

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-15 Thread R C
) On 12/15/19 11:56 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 18:20, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: Do you have a link of a working distro? It should be the one here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/downloads/ Are you saying that that does not work? -- atp "A motorcycl

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-14 Thread R C
ok,  cool!! I'll download and try that now. thanks, Ron On 12/14/19 6:43 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 12/14/19 5:10 PM, R C wrote: Hello all, I am new to  linuxcnc (and getting started again).  I have a Sherline style mill and lathe, but never used linuxcnc (last time I used

[Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-14 Thread R C
Hello all, I am new to  linuxcnc (and getting started again).  I have a Sherline style mill and lathe, but never used linuxcnc (last time I used the machines was a long time ago. I installed linuxcnc based on Debian 9.5, reson was that the older/other version didn't want to install, it

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port picie cards

2019-12-06 Thread R C
He's not "cracking" your key, he is just getting access to your router. What router is it? Some of these "residential" routers, when you change your admin password, the old default one still exists. Also, if you access your router over wifi itself, you'd be at risk. If you're using HTTPS, you'd

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port picie cards

2019-12-03 Thread R C
thanks!! from the answers I get is that  pretty much anything from a renomated brand, that supports EPP/ECP would work. Ron On 12/3/19 9:57 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 12/03/2019 09:19 PM, R C wrote: Hello, what would be a good PCIe card t use with linux-cnc,  would any card that does ECP

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port picie cards

2019-12-03 Thread R C
are connecting it to an FPGA like Mesa. On 12/3/19 9:19 PM, R C wrote: Hello, what would be a good PCIe card t use with linux-cnc,  would any card that does ECP/EPP do? thanks, Ron ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https

[Emc-users] parallel port picie cards

2019-12-03 Thread R C
Hello, what would be a good PCIe card t use with linux-cnc,  would any card that does ECP/EPP do? thanks, Ron ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-11-01 Thread R C
Hi Gene, On 11/1/19 11:27 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 01 November 2019 12:50:45 R C wrote: Hello Gene, yes when in doubt, with a distro I don't know, I do disable drives, or unplug them. (learned that lesson with installing Ubuntu one time years ago, and it reclaimed all space from

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-11-01 Thread R C
retch installs have all had network problems involving routing. On 10/30/19 12:17 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 30 October 2019 01:50:00 R C wrote: I tried installing linuxcnc-stretch-uspace-amd64-r13.iso too, doesn't seem to work either. r13? Where did you get that? My copy has no r

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
be used? Ron On 10/30/19 9:25 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 02:05, R C wrote: The problem, it seems, is that the installer doesn't like it if there are more device like /dev/sd* that are actually "active/installed/workin" You seem to be in the rather interesting s

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
://github.com/LinuxCNC/stretch-live-build I have updated to 4.19.0-0.bpo.6-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.19.67-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1 (2019-09-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux form stretch-backports, no problems yet... On 31 Oct 2019, at 1:19 pm, R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: looks

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
re via the Debian Graphical Install from the menu and it installed and then booted without any issues. On 31 Oct 2019, at 11:03 am, R C wrote: http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/ <http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/> _

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
talled from that previously, so not from DVD or USB. I have just burnt that ISO to a DVD and installed it on a spare box here via the Debian Graphical Install from the menu and it installed and then booted without any issues. On 31 Oct 2019, at 11:03 am, R C wrote: http://www.linuxcnc.org/t

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
you can run the live version first. I don't think you need internet connectivity on the install machine. I don't remember if I was plugged into the router. But it was about June when I did this. I had to trash the older version of Linux because of the MESA card. John -Original Me

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/ On 10/30/19 12:17 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 30 October 2019 01:50:00 R C wrote: I tried installing linuxcnc-stretch-uspace-amd64-r13.iso too,  doesn't seem to work either. r13? Where did you get that? My copy has no r13

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
. Then when you are ready, just reboot the CD and choose install. Only one DVD is needed. John Dammeyer -Original Message- From: R C [mailto:cjv...@gmail.com] Sent: October-29-19 10:50 PM To: Dave Matthews Cc: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc I

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
I know how to burn a DVD, and yes I notices it's > 1Gb (I don't think I don't even have any CDs anymore for years, just rewrite-able DVDs) On 10/30/19 9:44 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 10/29/2019 08:45 PM, R C wrote: Hello all, I thought I'd try linuxcnc, and see howthat works. (I h

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread R C
). Ron On 10/30/19 9:49 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 10/30/2019 06:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 05:53, R C wrote: I tried installing linuxcnc-stretch-uspace-amd64-r13.iso too,  doesn't seem to work either. How are you writing the discs? I have a vague memory that the issues you

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-29 Thread R C
I tried installing linuxcnc-stretch-uspace-amd64-r13.iso too,  doesn't seem to work either. Is there a working version of linuxcnc somewhere? On 10/29/19 10:51 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 00:41 R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 10/29/19 10:39

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-29 Thread R C
ok,  that is probably why it has aproblem contacting that repo On 10/29/19 10:51 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 00:41 R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 10/29/19 10:39 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 00:24 R C mailto:cjv...@gmail.co

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-29 Thread R C
On 10/29/19 10:39 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 00:24 R C <mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 10/29/19 10:04 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 00:01 R C mailto:cjv...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 10/29/19 7:56 PM, Dave

[Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-29 Thread R C
Hello all, I thought I'd try linuxcnc, and see howthat works. (I have a paxton/patterson mill and lathe that I haven't used in forever). I downloaded the linuxcnc iso and burned a disc, however it seems it wants another CD , or from what I read have Ubuntu or so installed? I saw Ubuntu

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