Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings?

2024-05-29 Thread Robert Ellenberg
- > From: Jon Elson > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 7:20 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings? > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > > On 5/15/24 12:23, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: > > I'm tryin

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings?

2024-05-16 Thread Todd Zuercher via Emc-users
2031 -Original Message- From: Jon Elson Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 7:20 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings? [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. On 5/15/24 12:23, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: > I'm trying to figure

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings?

2024-05-15 Thread gene heskett
On 5/15/24 19:21, Jon Elson wrote: On 5/15/24 12:23, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: I'm trying to figure out something goofy that seems to be going on with my acceleration settings. I'm running Linuxcnc 2.9.0 and Axis ui. I have all of the max_acceleration settings set for 20.0 (and stepge

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings?

2024-05-15 Thread Peter Wallace
On Wed, 15 May 2024, John Dammeyer wrote: Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 16:57:44 -0700 From: John Dammeyer Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings? -Origina

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings?

2024-05-15 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] > Sent: May 15, 2024 4:20 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings? > > On 5/15/24 12:23, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: > > I'

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Settings?

2024-05-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 5/15/24 12:23, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: I'm trying to figure out something goofy that seems to be going on with my acceleration settings. I'm running Linuxcnc 2.9.0 and Axis ui. I have all of the max_acceleration settings set for 20.0 (and stepgen_maxaccel = 25), and for some reaso

[Emc-users] Acceleration Settings?

2024-05-15 Thread Todd Zuercher via Emc-users
I'm trying to figure out something goofy that seems to be going on with my acceleration settings. I'm running Linuxcnc 2.9.0 and Axis ui. I have all of the max_acceleration settings set for 20.0 (and stepgen_maxaccel = 25), and for some reason everything only moves with an acceleration of 10 ip

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2024-02-23 Thread John Dammeyer
Gosh this was almost 2 years ago. Don't even remember why I was asking. John > -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: February 23, 2024 10:30 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2024-02-23 Thread Chris Albertson
otor > being run by one of Jon's pwm-servos. Both solutions would need far less > electrical power to get the job done than a steeper could do. >>> -Original Message- >>> From: gene heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] >>> Sent: June-16-22 6:34 PM >

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2024-02-23 Thread gene heskett
ists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question. On 6/16/22 20:54, John Dammeyer wrote: OK. I realize this will be a dumb question but please bear with me especially since I've included the ability to accelerate in my Electronic Lead Screw project. A friend and I were discus

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-17 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 18:02, Chris Albertson wrote: 1) Model the flywheel in CAD, and get the moment of inertia that way (make sure you look at the right one, which will depend on the orientation that you modelled it at) 2) Calculate how much energy is in the flywheel at target speed. E = 1/2 I

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-17 Thread Chris Albertson
...@gmail.com] > Sent: June-16-22 10:29 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question. > > OK, here is the problem. > > 1) we can not know the distance from the mass to the center of the wheel. > Mass is always distributed, It al

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-17 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: June-16-22 10:29 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question. > > OK, here is the problem. > > 1) we can not know the distance from the mass to the

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: June-16-22 10:29 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question. > > OK, here is the problem. > > 1) we can not know the distance fro

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread Chris Albertson
onds. What size motor then? > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > Sent: June-16-22 6:56 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question. > > > > Knowing

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/22 21:57, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Gene, Quite right. That link I posted used a table while in fact, as you pointed out, the mass is mostly on the outside of a flywheel with spokes. I would imagine at there is some average where if it's a 300 lb disk that is 24" might be the same as a

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread John Dammeyer
l Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: June-16-22 6:56 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question. > > Knowing the mass of the wheel is not enough, you need to know how far the > mas

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread Chris Albertson
ze 23 300 oz-in. > > Could that actually bring a flywheel up to that speed in 5 seconds? > > > -Original Message- > > From: gene heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: June-16-22 6:34 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acce

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread Chris Albertson
Knowing the mass of the wheel is not enough, you need to know how far the mas is from the center of rotation. They call this "Moment of inertia" There are ways of calculating this for simple wheel shapes like a plain disk but for anything else you are best off if you just measure it. The simples

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread John Dammeyer
t; From: gene heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: June-16-22 6:34 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question. > > On 6/16/22 20:54, John Dammeyer wrote: > > OK. I realize this will be a dumb question but please bear with

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/22 21:09, John Dammeyer wrote: Addendum to this: https://www.orientalmotor.com/motor-sizing/rotaryDevice-sizing.html#QuickReport I chose a 24" disk, 5 seconds to get up to 50 RPM. That's going to work for a flat plate, but will give you a low answer with disappointing results for the c

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On 6/16/22 20:54, John Dammeyer wrote: OK. I realize this will be a dumb question but please bear with me especially since I've included the ability to accelerate in my Electronic Lead Screw project. A friend and I were discussing bringing a 300 pound flywheel up to speed. Vz=0 RPM, Vf=50

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread John Dammeyer
achine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] Acceleration question. > > OK. I realize this will be a dumb question but please bear with me > especially since I've included the ability > to accelerate in my Electronic Lead Screw project. > > A friend and I were discussin

[Emc-users] Acceleration question.

2022-06-16 Thread John Dammeyer
OK. I realize this will be a dumb question but please bear with me especially since I've included the ability to accelerate in my Electronic Lead Screw project. A friend and I were discussing bringing a 300 pound flywheel up to speed. Vz=0 RPM, Vf=50 RPM. Reduction drive to the flywheel shaft

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
at I hadn't noticed till now. > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: February-21-20 5:17 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons > >

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 21 February 2020 20:37:30 Sam Sokolik wrote: > What version of linuxcnc are you running? Could it be 2.8 or newer? > > If it is take a look at axis.x.jog-accel-fraction - maybe it isn't 1? Something else I've not heard of. Time to read Documentation.pdf, again. > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread John Dammeyer
Nope. IPS. I've often wondered why it was done that way. > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: February-21-20 5:17 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons >

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread Sam Sokolik
What version of linuxcnc are you running? Could it be 2.8 or newer? If it is take a look at axis.x.jog-accel-fraction - maybe it isn't 1? On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 7:19 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 21 February 2020 17:43:34 John wrote: > > > Inches at the moment since the screws are imperi

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 21 February 2020 17:43:34 John wrote: > Inches at the moment since the screws are imperial. And 3.3 x 60 is > almost 200ipm. So plenty of speed. > But that 3.3 is IPM, not IPS. > Sent from John's iPhone 4S > > On 2020-02-21, at 2:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 21 February 20

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread Phill Carter
> >> I'm confused about the acceleration parameters. >> In the hal file. >> setp stepgen.1.maxaccel [AXIS_1]STEPGEN_MAXACCEL >> >> Which comes from the ini file. >> MAX_VELOCITY = 3.3 >> MAX_ACCELERATION = 15.0 >> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 35.0 >> >> What I'm finding is if I do a G00 X5 >> It accele

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread John
Inches at the moment since the screws are imperial. And 3.3 x 60 is almost 200ipm. So plenty of speed. Sent from John's iPhone 4S On 2020-02-21, at 2:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 21 February 2020 17:02:13 John Dammeyer wrote: > >> I'm confused about the acceleration parameters. >>

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 21 February 2020 17:02:13 John Dammeyer wrote: > I'm confused about the acceleration parameters. > In the hal file. > setp stepgen.1.maxaccel [AXIS_1]STEPGEN_MAXACCEL > > Which comes from the ini file. > MAX_VELOCITY = 3.3 > MAX_ACCELERATION = 15.0 > STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 35.0 > > What I'm

[Emc-users] Acceleration with jog buttons

2020-02-21 Thread John Dammeyer
I'm confused about the acceleration parameters. In the hal file. setp stepgen.1.maxaccel [AXIS_1]STEPGEN_MAXACCEL Which comes from the ini file. MAX_VELOCITY = 3.3 MAX_ACCELERATION = 15.0 STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 35.0 What I'm finding is if I do a G00 X5 It accelerates very quickly. But if I use th

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Confusion

2017-08-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 31 August 2017 07:05:44 theman whosoldtheworld wrote: > seems really a confusion ... but not from XHC and acceleration, but > from velocity and acceleration . In fact, but it may be that I > lost something in the meantime, I do not remember it is possible to > change axses accelera

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration Confusion

2017-08-31 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
seems really a confusion ... but not from XHC and acceleration, but from velocity and acceleration . In fact, but it may be that I lost something in the meantime, I do not remember it is possible to change axses acceleration on Lcnc, but only speed. I think in the new versions 2.8 there should

[Emc-users] Acceleration Confusion

2017-08-30 Thread 王若溪
I have an XHC-HB04 18-button wireless MPG on my mill. It's amazing that it works on LinuxCNC. But I found something confusing about acceleration: 1. The acceleration in [XHC_HB04_CONFIG]mpg_accels seems to have an effect on both jogging and program running. Isn't it supposed to affect MPG

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration / Deceleration

2010-01-25 Thread Glenn Edwards
regards, -- -- Glenn Rapid Converting LLC -Original Message- From: Jeshua Lacock [mailto:jes...@3dtopo.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:43 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Acceleration / Deceleration Greetings, I finally have my timing belts on my

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration / Deceleration

2010-01-25 Thread Jeff Epler
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 06:42:34PM -0700, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > So I was wondering if it is possible to control the acceleration and > deceleration values independently? No, it's not currently possible. Among other reasons, emc's trajectory planner uses the assumption that acceleration and dec

[Emc-users] Acceleration / Deceleration

2010-01-25 Thread Jeshua Lacock
Greetings, I finally have my timing belts on my machine and starting to do some real calibration on it! It seems to flawlessly handle insane acceleration rates (2 horsepower servo geared down 2 to 1) - but when it brakes at that rate it causes the top of my gantry to wobble (the top of the

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration

2008-11-09 Thread tomp
Jimmy, 'single radial acc' does not exist in emc the quote you mentioned was in context of 'cnc controls' , not 'emc' regards tomp Jimmy Schneiderman wrote: > Dear Tomp, > > Where are located linear accelation parameter per linear axis and where is > located the single radial accelation parameter

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration

2008-11-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 13:34 -0200, Jimmy Schneiderman wrote: > Dear Tomp, > > Where are located linear accelation parameter per linear axis and where is > located the single radial accelation parameter for all angular axis in the > LinuxCNC Program? > > Regards, > Jimmy EMC2 is configured by the

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration

2008-11-07 Thread Jimmy Schneiderman
Dear Tomp, Where are located linear accelation parameter per linear axis and where is located the single radial accelation parameter for all angular axis in the LinuxCNC Program? Regards, Jimmy 2008/11/7, tomp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Jeff Epler wrote: > > For trivial kinematics machines, emc

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration

2008-11-06 Thread tomp
Jeff Epler wrote: > For trivial kinematics machines, emc should always stay within the > inifile acceleration limits. If it doesn't, there's a bug. > > The main acceleration-related difference I recall for arcs is that > the centripetal acceleration required to follow the arc may affect the > maxi

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration

2008-11-06 Thread Jeff Epler
For trivial kinematics machines, emc should always stay within the inifile acceleration limits. If it doesn't, there's a bug. The main acceleration-related difference I recall for arcs is that the centripetal acceleration required to follow the arc may affect the maximum attainable velocity. Can

[Emc-users] Acceleration

2008-11-06 Thread Jimmy Schneiderman
To All, Does anyone knows if there are different sets of acceleration for linear movements and curves? Jimmy - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applica