Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-23 Thread Karlsson & Wang
> The machine hardware needs to be smart enough to monitor for > communication failures. There should be full duplex communication so > that every command either way is answered by an ACK. No response, it > shuts down. Real time data is usually sent periodically and in such other solutions are

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 9/22/2015 10:47 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > I Agree! For the same reason seeing windows MACH3 hang and the USB smooth > stepper continue to send out stepping pulses on the Z throwing the machine > alignment out as it pushes against the table. (router bit not turning and > didn't break). > > An

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Charles, > > I have not been keeping up with machinekit as much as I should, but it > does look like they are moving to server/client. Looks like they have moved > the UI, task scheduler, RS274 interpreter, and basic machine commands to > use API's. Trajectory planner, kinematics, hardware dr

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-09-22 21:54 GMT+03:00 Charles Buckley : > If I am reading this correctly, they just don't have a lot of developers > working compared to the tablet option. Well, it seems that you did not read correctly - Alex Rossler is the author of machinekit-client application. All of its versions - andr

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Charles Buckley
I have not been keeping up with machinekit as much as I should, but it does look like they are moving to server/client. Looks like they have moved the UI, task scheduler, RS274 interpreter, and basic machine commands to use API's. Trajectory planner, kinematics, hardware drivers, etc, etc remain

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread John Dammeyer
m] > Sent: September-22-15 2:47 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM > for LinuxCNC > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Gregg Eshelman > wrote: > > > The trick is to achieve transpa

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> When something absolutely has to have a solid connection, whether it's >> controller to machine, or keyboard to the controller, you just can't >> beat a good shielded hardware connection between the two. >> >> Mark > > Chuckle, good, shi

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 22 September 2015 10:39:05 Mark Wendt wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> All it takes is a bit of interference in the band of radios waves > >> those devices use. I still prefer hardwired connections rather > >> than trusting radio waves on stuff like

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> All it takes is a bit of interference in the band of radios waves >> those devices use. I still prefer hardwired connections rather than >> trusting radio waves on stuff like that. Or, as you mentioned, the >> batteries. It only has t

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 22 September 2015 09:36:24 Mark Wendt wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 September 2015 05:46:42 Mark Wendt wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Gregg Eshelman > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > The trick is to achieve transparency of oper

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 22 September 2015 05:46:42 Mark Wendt wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Gregg Eshelman > wrote: >> > The trick is to achieve transparency of operation so that GCODE and >> > commands for start, stop, E-stop etc sent to t

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 22 September 2015 05:46:42 Mark Wendt wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > The trick is to achieve transparency of operation so that GCODE and > > commands for start, stop, E-stop etc sent to the LCNC server and > > feedback returned to the client operat

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > The trick is to achieve transparency of operation so that GCODE and > commands for start, stop, E-stop etc sent to the LCNC server and > feedback returned to the client operates seamlessly and without > interference with the micro-system ac

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread John Dammeyer
> > What that would be is a client-server type of system, with LCNC running > on a micro-system in the role of the server, with the GUI running on the > Windows or OS X or other system as the client. > > The trick is to achieve transparency of operation so that GCODE and > commands for start, sto

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 9/21/2015 2:20 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: > Well, you can eliminate windows completely, if you have a phone or android > tablet. > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.machinekit.appdiscover&hl=en > > I would argue that the ability to split the GUI from the engine is a good > thing

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-21 Thread Charles Buckley
hn > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kyle Kerr [mailto:ker...@gmail.com] > > Sent: September-19-15 10:52 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM > > for LinuxCNC >

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-20 Thread John Dammeyer
debugging with P&E hardware. John > -Original Message- > From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] > Sent: September-20-15 12:47 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM > for LinuxCNC >

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/20/2015 12:45 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > John, > > Using the BBB is bleeding edge. But you should know that if you are > frequenting the Machinekit email list. > > Actually, it is not so bleeding edge anymore. There are apparently thousands of people using it, mostly on 3D printers, but also

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-20 Thread Dave Cole
might > have to run a dedicated RTOS rather than real time Linux to be effective but > if the Real Time component is removed from LinuxCNC is there any reason that > part can't run as a Windows or iOS Application? > > And maybe that's a Fork in the code that is finally a really

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-20 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 11:47 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > And there in a nutshell is the reason Windows and Macs outnumber Linux for > PCs used by almost everyone. Forcing someone to use the command line > interface for a graphical user interface application is embedded into the > brain of the

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-20 Thread John Dammeyer
gt; To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM > for LinuxCNC > > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:49 PM, John Dammeyer > wrote: > > Ultimately remoting into the BBB still means learning two operating > syste

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-20 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:49 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > Ultimately remoting into the BBB still means learning two operating systems > when 99.9% of my work is done under Windows. > > To drag a drop a file onto the desktop on the Debian BBB MachineKit port > involves dragging it to the desktop fold

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-19 Thread John Dammeyer
Guru required" option is a major feature. John > -Original Message- > From: Kyle Kerr [mailto:ker...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-19-15 10:52 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM > for Li

Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-19 Thread Kyle Kerr
Maybe I don't understand what you are getting at. Why go through all the effort of breaking the software up between BBB and a Windows machine? Why not just remote in to the BBB and call it a day? On Sat, Sep 19, 2015, 11:59 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > > On 19/09/15 05:55, John Dammeyer wrote: > >

[Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-19 Thread John Dammeyer
> On 19/09/15 05:55, John Dammeyer wrote: > > WIN-8 and up don't support > > parallel ports or even serial ports directly. > > 64bit windows does not support parallel port. Even on 32bit W10 it still > works fine ... I have some legacy kit which is still going strong but we > had to move off 32bit