My only suggestion is to ensure the wire you have is stranded, not
solid. Stranded will be 'softer' and deal better with the bending
needed for use in drag-chain use. Solid core is better for
infrastructure use (putting in walls), stranded is found in 'patch
cables' and used in wiring closets to
From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> On 1 January 2016 at 16:16, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> > SSerial is differential RS-422 at 2.5 MBits/sec and requires ~100 Ohm
> > differential cable cable impedance. This usually means twisted pairs
> > are required for TX and RX (the 5V/GND power c
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016, andy pugh wrote:
> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 16:59:12 +
> From: andy pugh
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-Serial cabling
>
> On 1 Ja
On 1 January 2016 at 16:16, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> SSerial is differential RS-422 at 2.5 MBits/sec and requires ~100 Ohm
> differential cable cable impedance. This usually means twisted pairs
> are required for TX and RX (the 5V/GND power connections are not critical)
The pairs are twisted ins
On 01/01/2016 05:16 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>> The bandwidth of rs232 style serial connections is so low that you will
>> not see any problems with twisted pairs. I assume that you are not
>> connecting half a kilometer of cable with a speed higher than 115k2 baud
>> (or you may run into capaci
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Bertho Stultiens wrote:
> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 14:55:47 +0100
> From: Bertho Stultiens
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-Serial cabling
On Friday 01 January 2016 06:23:06 andy pugh wrote:
> My lathe build is going to have a smart-serial device mounted in the
> lathe apron. This means that I need a CAT5 cable in the drag-chain,
> and also a 24V supply for the proximity sensors.
> Finding oil/coolant resistant CAT5 rated for drag-ch
On 01/01/2016 12:23 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> Is there any reason to think that the 2x3 screened pairs in that cable
> will be unsuitable for transporting smart-serial data
The bandwidth of rs232 style serial connections is so low that you will
not see any problems with twisted pairs. I assume that y
On 01/01/2016 06:23 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> My lathe build is going to have a smart-serial device mounted in the
> lathe apron. This means that I need a CAT5 cable in the drag-chain,
> and also a 24V supply for the proximity sensors.
> Finding oil/coolant resistant CAT5 rated for drag-chain use is l
> On 01 Jan 2016, at 12:23, andy pugh wrote:
>
> My lathe build is going to have a smart-serial device mounted in the
> lathe apron. This means that I need a CAT5 cable in the drag-chain,
> and also a 24V supply for the proximity sensors.
> Finding oil/coolant resistant CAT5 rated for drag-chain
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, Marius Alksnys wrote:
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 08:10:22 +0200
> From: Marius Alksnys
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Emc-users] Smart serial using MESA 485x1
>
> Can I use MESA 485x1 adapter for smart s
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013, Klemen Ozebek wrote:
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:40:24 +0200
> From: Klemen Ozebek
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: [Emc-users] Smart serial 5i20 + 7i44 + 7i33 + 7i44
>
> Dear,
>
> my smart serial interface is not working on 5i20 FPGA card, on connector
2012/3/30 Peter C. Wallace :
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:27:30 +0300
>> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>
>> To: "Enhanced Machine Co
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:27:30 +0300
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart
2012/3/30 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> Is your RJ45 pin 3 high? (high than pin 6) if not you likely have the +/-
> swapped on both RX and TX
>
Just to make sure that I correctly understand, what do You mean:
Pin 3 is Txa for 8i20, so I have connected to non-inverted input of
SN75179 chip. I really trie
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:23:50 +0300
From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43
2012/3/29 V
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:13:53 -0700
> From: Kirk Wallace
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: LinuxCNC Users List
> Subject: [Emc-users] Smart Serial and 3c20
>
> In trying to get an understanding of Smart Serial I came across
2012/3/29 Viesturs Lācis :
>
> It is past 9 PM, so I will try to run LinuxCNC with 8i20
> attached tomorrow morning once more.
Peter, today I tried again and the result is the same as before -
"fault" led is turned on and I do not see 8i20 in "Show HAL config"
under Pins -> hm2_7i43 -> 0.
I have:
2012/3/22 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> You can check your converter by looping the RS-422 TX to RX
>
> (TX+ to RX+ TX- to RX-)
>
> and then togging the FPGA TX pin and seeing if the FPGA RX pin follows
> (you would need to disable SSERIAL so you catn get contro of the pins as
> GPIO = SSERIAL_PORT_0=
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 16:37 +0200, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
> 2012/3/22 Greg Bernard :
> > Do you have a usb to ttl converter? If so you could use a terminal program
> > and do a loop-back test (connect RX to TX)
>
> No.
> The converter I built is the very first scheme here:
> http://www.kmitl.ac.t
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:37:14 +0200
From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
To: Greg Bernard ,
"Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial an
2012/3/22 Greg Bernard :
> Do you have a usb to ttl converter? If so you could use a terminal program
> and do a loop-back test (connect RX to TX)
No.
The converter I built is the very first scheme here:
http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/Rs422/Rs422.pdf
Viesturs
Do you have a usb to ttl converter? If so you could use a terminal program and
do a loop-back test (connect RX to TX)
>
> From: Viesturs Lācis
>To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
>Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:04 AM
>Subject: Re: [E
2012/3/18 Peter C. Wallace :
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:21:38 -0400
>> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>
>> To: "Enhanced Machine Co
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 19:03 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote:
... snip
> Modbus has a Report Slave ID query which should return more than just an
> ID. I thought there was a broadcast query, but now that I'm looking for
> it I can't seem to find it.
... snip
Oops, it's a broadcast address, 0, and is wri
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 16:15 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
... snip
Thanks Matt and Peter. I thought Smart Serial might be a marketing spin
for Modbus, but it sounds like a different animal altogether.
> No, its been designed to be real time from the beginning.
Something else I'll need to learn
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:22:35 -0700
Kirk Wallace wrote:
> I've been looking at the Mesa 5i25 and wondered if Smart Serial is
> compatible with Modbus?
AFAIK, they're two completely different things. Modbus is really a
protocol that can be used over different types of media. Smart Serial
is a diff
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:22:35 -0700
> From: Kirk Wallace
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: LinuxCNC Users List
> Subject: [Emc-users] Smart Serial
>
> I've been looking at the Mesa 5i25 and wondered if Smart Serial is
> com
2012/3/18 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> SSERIAL will not start a 8I20 unless the 8I20 has its drive enable powered and
>>~45V motor power. (newer 8I20 firmware does allow starts under these
> conditions)
Do I need also to connect the motor for 8i20?
Of course, I will need it, when I will try to run it, b
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:21:38 -0400
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:21:38 -0400
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart
2012/3/18 Mark Wendt (Contractor) :
> On 3/17/2012 1:08 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
>> 2012/3/17 Mark Wendt (Contractor):
>>
>>> You're missing at least the Boost.Python libraries for C++ (gcc). Dunno
>>> what else you're missing since I don't know what you have on your
>>> machine. ;-)
>>>
>> I just
On 3/17/2012 1:08 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
> 2012/3/17 Mark Wendt (Contractor):
>
>> You're missing at least the Boost.Python libraries for C++ (gcc). Dunno
>> what else you're missing since I don't know what you have on your
>> machine. ;-)
>>
> I just want to test one 8i20 servo drive,
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :
> Heres tha latest I have(any SSERIAL with 5 registers has to be at least 6
> months old)
So I got LinuxCNC to start up without errors. I have connected 8i20
drive to 7i43 card.
1) But I do not see it in "Show HAL config" (I expect it to appear
there, if sserial modul
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> Those number do not match what I have for the BOSSVSS config so that is not
> a current bit file (John Murphy must have sent you an old one by mistake)
> Configuration Name: HOSTMOT2
>
> General configuration information:
>
> Module: SSerial
> There are 1 of SSe
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:33:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Peter C. Wallace
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-se
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> Oh OK its a ancient bit file (dmesg is much more useful)
So that means that You will send me something else, right? :))
Viesturs
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:29:27 -0400
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> Looks right, though it probably should have the right number of 0's or X's for
> the number of sserial channels the config contains
How do I find that out? The firmware is BOSSV.BIT, the one You sent to
John Murphy a week or two ago.
> what does dmesg say?
I copi
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:02:42 -0400
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> I cannot see how any of those errors are eveny vaguely related to the
> bitfile
I do understand that. The fact is that it works with this:
CONFIG="firmware=hm2/7i43/SVST4_4B.BIT num_encoders=3 num_pwmgens=3
num_stepgens=0"
It does not work with this:
CONFIG="firmw
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:21:33 -0400
From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43
Sorry, fo
Greetings
>
> And now what?
>
> I ran all these commands:
> cd src
> ./autogen.sh
> ./configure
> make
> make install-menus
> sudo make setuid
>
> They all completed successfully - I did not see any warning messages.
>
> But in Applications -> CNC I have 4 items - Getting started guide and
> 3 manu
Sorry, for the double-post, do not know, how did I do that...
2012. gada 17. marts 15:13 Viesturs Lācis rakstīja:
>
> Anyway, I still get this in error message:
> Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1
> Can not find -sec IO -var IO -num 1
> Can not find -sec TASK -var TASK_LD_PRELOAD -num 1
> Can
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz :
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_LinuxCNC#Running_emc2
>
> running script is in ../scripts directory
Thank You!
It is working!
That is for run-in-place, but I did not specify that. Did it
automatically build with --run-in-place?
If so, how can I
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz :
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_LinuxCNC#Running_emc2
>
> running script is in ../scripts directory
Thank You!
It is working!
That is for run-in-place, but I did not specify that. Did it
automatically build with --run-in-place?
If so, how can I
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_LinuxCNC#Running_emc2
running script is in ../scripts directory
W dniu 17.03.2012 19:51, Viesturs Lācis pisze:
> 2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz:
>> If you execute 'git clean -x -d -f' in top of linuxcnc source directory,
>> it will reset to state
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz :
> If you execute 'git clean -x -d -f' in top of linuxcnc source directory,
> it will reset to state after clone
Thanks, I will try to remember!
And now what?
I ran all these commands:
cd src
./autogen.sh
./configure
make
make install-menus
sudo make setuid
They al
If you execute 'git clean -x -d -f' in top of linuxcnc source directory,
it will reset to state after clone
regards
Michael
W dniu 17.03.2012 19:13, Viesturs Lācis pisze:
> 2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz:
>> Try use make without sudo
>
> Thanks, You are right, there is no sudo in wiki page.
> I st
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz :
> Try use make without sudo
Thanks, You are right, there is no sudo in wiki page.
I still get some errors, so I deleted the code, will download it again
and then retry.
BTW a little off-topic: the command to clone the source from git is:
git clone git://git.linuxcnc
Try use make without sudo
W dniu 17.03.2012 18:33, Viesturs Lācis pisze:
> 2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz:
>>
>> sudo apt-get install libboost-python-dev
>
> Thanks, that worked!
>
> ./configure completed successfully
>
> sudo make completedsuccessfully
>
> sudo make setuid terminates with error:
>
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz :
>
> sudo apt-get install libboost-python-dev
Thanks, that worked!
./configure completed successfully
sudo make completedsuccessfully
sudo make setuid terminates with error:
viesturs@ubuntu:~/linuxcnc-dev/src$ sudo make setuid
make: Entering directory `/home/viest
2012/3/17 Mark Wendt (Contractor) :
>
> You're missing at least the Boost.Python libraries for C++ (gcc). Dunno
> what else you're missing since I don't know what you have on your
> machine. ;-)
I just want to test one 8i20 servo drive, no real machine to control.
Where can I find, which exactly
Try
sudo apt-get install libboost-python-dev
regards
Michael
W dniu 17.03.2012 17:52, Viesturs Lācis pisze:
> 2012/3/17 Viesturs Lācis:
> configure: error: boost::python is required to build LinuxCNC
>
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On 3/17/2012 12:52 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
> 2012/3/17 Viesturs Lācis:
>
>> I will report back about my success.
>>
> So I uninstalled the buildbot version, got the source code and in
> terminal executed:
>
> sudo apt-get build-dep emc2
> ./autogen.sh
> ./configure
>
> The ./configure s
2012/3/17 Viesturs Lācis :
>
> I will report back about my success.
So I uninstalled the buildbot version, got the source code and in
terminal executed:
sudo apt-get build-dep emc2
./autogen.sh
./configure
The ./configure script terminates with this error message (I copied
all the lines from the
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
>>
>> Peter, what am I supposed to have on PC for smart-serial module to work?
>> The only thing I know of is inuxCNC 2.5.something. Is there anything else?
>
> Thats it
>
Then I have only the buildbot version to blame.
That
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:24:34 -0400
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> No idea but hm2 has not changed and NML is a totally different area of
> LinuxCNC (isnt there some bug where you have to delete some nml file when
> upgrading LinuxCNC?)
AFAIK that was, when upgraded from 2.3.x to 2.4.x
Peter, what am I supposed to have on PC for
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:11:21 -0400
From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43
2012/3/17 Pe
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :
>
>
> No I think its some other version issue (nml has nothin to do with hm2)
Ok, what else could it be?
Last weak I downloaded the latest-at-that-moment buildbot version.
Viesturs
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:55:23 -0400
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart
2012/3/10 Peter C. Wallace :
>
> Looks like at least 2 problems, one is that the firmware and driver are
> different versions (that firmware is fairly ancient) and the second problame
> is that the config line syntax has changed (this should be fixable with man
> hostmot2)
John Murphy sent me a fi
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:11 -0500
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis"
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43
>
> Hello, gentlemen!
>
> I am trying
Check with mr Wallace, I believe the smart serial firmware in git needs a
couple patches. He got me setup last week.
On Saturday, March 10, 2012, Viesturs Lācis
wrote:
> Hello, gentlemen!
>
> I am trying to test the performance of 8i20 drive with my servo motors.
> I have 7i43 card, latest build
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