Re: [E-devel] Paypal account has been validated

2011-12-11 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Hi Vincent, Could you send me the info for a direct PayPal transfer so I can send the old funds? Thanks, Nathan On Dec 11, 2011 10:20 AM, "Vincent Torri" wrote: > Hey, > > The paypal account of the french association Enlightenment.fr, which > is used as an account for the whole project, was val

Re: [E-devel] RFC eina inlist, list

2009-09-08 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Hello all, but specially Cedric and Jorge as one of you did initial > eina_inlist and we're about to release eina as 1.0 so we need to know > if things need/could be changed to improve things before that. > > Today eina_inlist does n

Re: [E-devel] EFL coding style

2009-08-30 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Hi Vincent, The Google C++ style guide has a requirement that I would suggest considering. http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/cppguide.xml#Function_Calls The specific suggestion is that we provide guidance on how to wrap function definitions and calls that don't fit well on a sin

Re: [E-devel] [epdf] esmart_pdf and ewl_pdf are causing segmentation faults

2009-05-13 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Vincent Torri wrote: > > Hey, > >> A couple of weeks ago I had added a ticket to the tracker of enlightenment. >> (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/307) >> Could you have a look at it, as it solved the segmentation faults that I was >> having with test_ewl

Re: [E-devel] equivalent to XmNsensitive

2009-05-12 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Peter Wehrfritz wrote: > Nick Hughart schrieb: >> On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:46:26 +0200 >> Peter Wehrfritz wrote: >> >> >>> noma...@free.fr schrieb: >>> Ok another question, what about the case whene we dont know the stat of the widget. So we must

Re: [E-devel] Forming a non-profit entity?

2009-04-05 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Attempting to revive this thread... Do we realistically have the resources to perform the necessary accounting, paperwork, pay the necessary fee, etc to be outside of something like the SFC? IMO, we should avoid the legal hassles as much as possible, unless there is a significant problem raised b

Re: [E-devel] planet?

2009-01-28 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
n? > > Cheers, > > Emme > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: >> I emailed them. Tim requested that his blog be removed from the planet >> and the blogging software Ben uses does not support categories. I can >> remove Ben since he isn

Re: [E-devel] [Heads Up] Summer of Code 2009.....

2009-01-13 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
I'm willing to mentor again this year. Also, I think it would be great if we have the same admins as last year. Things went very well. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Ravenlock

Re: [E-devel] Announcing EWL 0.5.3

2009-01-05 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
2009 at 3:00 AM, Andreas Volz wrote: > Am Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:03:03 -0600 schrieb Nathan Ingersoll: > > Great work! > > I couldn't read it from below. Does EWL now support Ecore_Evas? Or is > composite support now directly included? Are there any plans for it? > > regards

Re: [E-devel] Announcing EWL 0.5.3

2009-01-04 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Toma wrote: > Im currently working (slowly) on making a B&W theme for ewl. Whats the > timeline to the next release? Ill up

[E-devel] Announcing EWL 0.5.3

2009-01-04 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
I'm pleased to announce the release of EWL version 0.5.3. This release has some extensive changes, including the following highlights: * Version 0.5.3: - Fixed compile warnings on 64-bit systems - Improved entry selection and cursor handling - A variety of bug fix

Re: [E-devel] planet?

2008-11-11 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> dj2 was the one maintaining it. Do you have category specific links >> for benr and tim? I might have access to

Re: [E-devel] planet?

2008-11-07 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
dj2 was the one maintaining it. Do you have category specific links for benr and tim? I might have access to the necessary files. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who manages planet.enlightenment.org? > > 1 - please include raster blog: http://w

Re: [E-devel] Fw: Re: Copyleft-style

2008-11-03 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Was this exception ever decided? On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (forgot AUTHORS in cc list) > > PLEASE REPLY (authors on CC list). yes or no to adding static linking > exception > below? > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:53:29 +0200 Michael F

Re: [E-devel] E SVN: raster trunk/e/src/modules/ibar

2008-10-27 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
We have ecore_strlcpy available for just this reason. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Enlightenment SVN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Log: > ok go nack to snprintf - strncpy isn't save for overruns of a buffer with 0 > termination of string here (need to add ectra code to terminate). in this >

[E-devel] Fwd: EWL in a Evas/Edje application?

2008-10-04 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Forgot to reply-all. -- Forwarded message -- From: Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [E-devel] EWL in a Evas/Edje application? To: Diogo Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Diogo Dutra <[

Re: [E-devel] editable evas textblock

2008-09-17 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
EWL is somewhat more complicated because it maintains an internal representation of the data. This is done so that it can build the entire text representation prior to an evas or any associated evas object being available. That being said, it may provide some hints about how to interact with the te

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-12 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
A decision has been made on this issue, so let this thread die. Whether we agree with the decision or not is up to us to act on as individuals now, and bringing it back to the list won't do any good but to fan further flames. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Stephen Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [E-devel] CVS->SVN.

2008-08-09 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Much appreciated! On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:28 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:08:59 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >> Nathan Ingersoll wrote: >> > Can we put this on hold until Summ

Re: [E-devel] CVS->SVN.

2008-08-09 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Can we put this on hold until Summer of Code is complete? It's only another week until that wraps up and I'd like to minimize the time the students need to spend to accommodate shifting infrastructure during the end of session crunch. Thanks, Nathan On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:45 AM, The Rasterman C

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Zachary Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sort of ancillary to this discussion but as point of fact: > > GPL was designed to keep software free, away from people who would > close it and then sell it. The "Changing the license is hard" with > the GPL is very

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Christopher Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not much of a lawyer, nor do I claim to know much about LGPL, but if in > fact this is the case and we can't change back at a later date without much > effort, then by all means put me down for the "Not Changing"

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Also, this is exactly my point about being disrespectful and hurting >> the community. You are

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So your argument is that you don't need to justify your choices >> because you're more active

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Also, this is exactly my point about being disrespectful and hurting the community. You are devaluating the opinions of volunteers in the community because you get to spend your paid time on it. I still contribute multiple hours each week to the project either through reviewing patches, helping eva

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
So your argument is that you don't need to justify your choices because you're more active right now? On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Mark Dickie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As another long-term enlightenment u

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can't tell me that im wrong as i did eina and took the decisions > about it. I have to explain this as this totally wrong. Eina's attempt > was known, i already commented about it on irc and on ml, *with* > in

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > True, it looks like but it isnt. Let me explain. The community > fragmentation is *not only* the license, it is mainly because of point > 1. Point 2 is refered to people that won't code on eina and for people > th

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Timothy P. Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a Summer of Code student this year (so, not a /real/ E developer), > and I was planning on keeping my head entirely out of this > conversation, but each email makes that more and more difficult. So > I've decided to

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Viktor Kojouharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:48 -0500, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: >> Look at the history of this project and any other complex projects. It >> is very common that components get moved from one layer

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Hisham Mardam Bey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Consensus is how healthy communities operate, so your second point >> would be that E is an unhealthy commu

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
: > On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:33 -0500, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> You're goi

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Viktor Kojouharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:41 -0500, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: >> Really? I have done my best to layout factual reasons and arguments >> but have not seen any rebuttals that have attempted to do the

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Really? I have done my best to layout factual reasons and arguments but have not seen any rebuttals that have attempted to do the same. On 8/6/08, Viktor Kojouharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:20 -0500, Nick Hughart wrote: >> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> > On Wed, A

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Now that will be the case, but when Eina was first brought back up, the license was not mentioned and we were happy to see the work to unify data libs happening. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Nathan

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You're going to completely ignore all of the feedback you received on >> this issue and just change

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
We don't want the ability to cross-pollinate code with those projects and they are SEPARATE PROJECTS. The goal of eina was to unify around one shared data lib, so why would we not be using eina? On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 20

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
You're going to completely ignore all of the feedback you received on this issue and just change the license without a consensus? On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Enlightenment CVS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Enlightenment CVS committal > > Author : turran > Project : e17 > Module : proto/eina >

Re: [E-devel] Time-based releases

2008-08-05 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
For those interested in using Git with SVN, here's a nice getting started article. It's written from the assumption that you're using Google Code, but it's really discussing general SVN and Git workflow. http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/05/develop-with-git-on-google-code-project.html On

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-04 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
I want to point out that as the person asking for the change, the burden of proof is on you. Therefore, look at your statements below and show us solid proof behind any of them. For every example you give of an open source project that supposedly succeeded because of it's license being GPL/LGPL, y

Re: [E-devel] moving things along - cvs -> svn and bugs (bugzilla->trac)

2008-08-04 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:19 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and i want to put in other cvs modules: > misc/ -> misc/ > eterm/ -> old/eterm/ > web/www -> www/ > e16/ -> old/e16/ > e_modules/ -> apps/e_modules Since both Eterm and e16 are actively maintained and use

Re: [E-devel] Eina ideas and requests

2008-08-03 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't want everyone to always use it, it can be kept as a helper and > people who wish to have an abstract data model (usually void *) and > access it as a list can provide the iterator. I use it in my mvc > l

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Before this turns completely into another license flame-war. Let's step back and look at this from a more practical standpoint. I'm going to list the set of arguments mentioned as to why we need LGPL, since that is the point being argued, along with questions that would need to be answered for this

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Kind of like how you're ignoring every other company that has paid someone to work on E in the past and had no issue with the license? On Aug 3, 2008, at 3:31 PM, "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:48 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrot

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Back to the original question... I don't intend to contribute to eina if it's not BSD. The main reason (beyond my personal preference) is that it is not consistent with the rest of the repository. This hurts our ability to shift code within the repository If I write a nice abstraction in another l

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] cms?

2008-08-01 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > so eventually went back to an old original method. www lives in cvs - u want > to > work on it, u get cvs access. committing means it auto-updates. if u need to > test the php locally setting up a local a

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > oh of course. details! :) we can dot the i's and cross the t's soon enough. :) Unfortunately, this really needs to be done sooner than later. Without a license listed, we now need to get the permission of

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > because raster did it like that :-D > I'm not sure why people don't want to use a cms, but I've being told > that they want to keep like that (cvs based). We went through a couple CMS's before, one of which bro

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-07-31 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
a planet at planet.enlightenment.org > 3. Release something and then enhance. > > 4. Documentation > > P.S. > I've translated some website pages in italian... Should e italian community > have an its own website, a planet like french community or may i continue to >

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-07-31 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
bmit > that to places like reddit, digg and slashdot. That way people see all > this interesting stuff going on and want to join in. > Toma > > On 7/29/08, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Since the most recent license flamewar was triggered by the motivation >&

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:24 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Depends on if the projects are using it. You can see features we're > working for Ewl and the discussions we've had about how to implement > them. You can also search for resolved and closed bugs to see what's > implemen

[E-devel] Community Building

2008-07-28 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Since the most recent license flamewar was triggered by the motivation of community building, I think now would be an appropriate time to brainstorm some additional ideas for helping to build the community around E. One idea I discussed with Vincent today is that our lack of releases has caused ma

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-28 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
I think this discussion has dragged on long enough. There is clearly not a consensus on the list, which we should require for any decision of this magnitude. License flamewars are infamous for draining developer motivation on a project as well as burning up precious time for all team members. As it

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-25 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've learned a lot about the licences reading these mails, and it seems > that the fact is not "such licence is a hindrance" but "such licence can > give us developpers". That's different. So, from what i've understood,

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well, I wasn't going to feed the trolls, but since you called me out... >> > > I'm not sure just what "feed the trolls" means, but if it's another > way to call people names in order to silence or undermine a differe

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This issue is a long and complex one, and I really have no desire to > get into the specifics of it. You and Nathan and Carsten and maybe many > others, > may feel comfortable with your decisions and choices, and t

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-21 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ProFUSION will release its code under LGPL (guarana and possible > others to come). And yes, we think just like you, but the code is > there and the majority of work was done by people that like it, so we > do

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-21 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I dont pretend to start a flamewar, if you do, please dont answer this > thread.The thing is that right now, the EFL has arrived to a place > where different companies are using this software, and sever

Re: [E-devel] [website] (was: SoC Midterm reviews)

2008-07-16 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Massimiliano Calamelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:38:46 +0200 (CEST) > Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That question raises another point: the e website can certainly be >> im

Re: [E-devel] SoC Midterm reviews

2008-07-16 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Added. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Sevcsik András <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mine is http://sevcsik.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?alt=rss . > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> I have also add

Re: [E-devel] SoC Midterm reviews

2008-07-16 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
I have also added SoC student Timothy Horton. Other students, please send me your feed URL if you have one. Thanks, Nathan On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure, you're added now. There may be a delay until you show up in the > p

Re: [E-devel] SoC Midterm reviews

2008-07-16 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Sure, you're added now. There may be a delay until you show up in the planet, but if you don't see anything within a few hours let me know. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 200

Re: [E-devel] [SoC] Eyesight status report

2008-07-14 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Sevcsik András <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I made a post to my blog (http://sevcsik.blogspot.com) when you can find a > screenshotof > the application. Here's the pos

Re: [E-devel] SoC Midterm reviews

2008-07-14 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
I also think it would be a good idea to add student blogs to Planet E to give their work more exposure. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Ravenlock wrote: > >> All surveys (student and mentor) are now accounted for. > > maybe that

[E-devel] SoC Midterm reviews

2008-07-13 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
While I know all mentors have received reminders to complete their midterm surveys, I would like to emphasize the importance of completing these surveys on time. Not only will it help ensure your student receives payment for the second half of the summer, but it can positively impact us in the appl

Re: [E-devel] Evas_Quartz Code, Ready for Reviews!

2008-07-07 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
and a more direct link to view the code: http://code.google.com/p/evas-quartz/source/browse On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Timothy P. Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've uploaded a very preliminary version of my Summer of Code project, > the Evas_Quartz engine to Google Code, and opened it u

Re: [E-devel] Shared Strings

2008-05-07 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Were these numbers from ecore before or after cedric's changes this morning? On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Peter Wehrfritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yesterday we had a discussion on irc, if we should put abstract data > types of ecore and of evas into a single standalone lib. The whole > di

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/efreet dj2

2008-05-07 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:27 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We'll have to wait to see if anyone complains. The problem is, we can't > tell if issue is failed parsing or non-existing file. We may need to put > a check in there for non-existant file. But, I don't think we should be

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/efreet cedric

2008-05-06 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
In case you missed my question on IRC... On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Enlightenment CVS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > f = fopen(file, "rb"); > if (!f) return NULL; > > +if (fstat(fileno(f), &file_stat) > +|| file_stat.st_size < 1) > +{ > +fclose(f); > +

Re: [E-devel] Ewl memory leak in ewl_image_rotate

2008-04-28 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Hi Dariusz, Thanks for the bug report on this issue. I'll take a closer look at this and see about getting a fix in the next couple days, but feel free to submit a patch before I get to it. Thanks, Nathan 2008/4/28 Dariusz Knociński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > I found memory leak in procedure

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-03-30 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On 30 Mar 2008 14:01:02 +0200, Lukasz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > First sorry for my English. > > I am a newcomer and I'd like to help in this project. But I have some > question: > I found that e17 theme is e17 theme only, that after applying theme other > that default, > any other EFL

Re: [E-devel] Eet - proposing doing an alpha release. 0.9.99900

2008-03-28 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:39:16 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:56 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > &

Re: [E-devel] Eet - proposing doing an alpha release. 0.9.99900

2008-03-28 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Of course, but given that none exist and it's up to be released, some kind of compromise has to be made. On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Eric Sandall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday, March 28 2008 08:39:16 Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at

Re: [E-devel] Eet - proposing doing an alpha release. 0.9.99900

2008-03-28 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:56 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I repeat what i said on irc, but unit tests are really needed for eet and > > its future changes > > sure, but not needed for a 1.0.0 :) I agree for the alpha and beta releases, but it would be real

Re: [E-devel] Evas Object Size Hints

2008-03-20 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
In general I don't have any objections to the addition of size hints to Edje, these could actually be useful to EWL as we could use them in place of some of the existing size hints we get from Edje. I'm not really certain why you want the ability to set the min and max sizes programmatically since

Re: [E-devel] SoC "Object Layout Library" was: "Ewl widget positioning"

2008-03-20 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
There are a variety of reasons, dan mentioned one of the big ones a couple more are: 1. EWL pre-dates Evas (at least this version), and thus smart objects. 2. We do some interesting tricks to reduce our overhead for non-visible objects. Both of these don't rule out a port to smart objects necess

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-20 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just to make it a bit more flexible though, let's also > allow for 'importing' evas objects - if possible (not sure if ewl > has this at the moment, but just in case). The way we usually do this is outlined in the

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However you have it (though rel coords would seem best), > if you really want ewl to be a flexible tool for building artistic, > rich apps, then you'll want a natural way to arbitrarily position > child *widgets*

Re: [E-devel] Summer of Code: We made it!!!

2008-03-17 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Could you add all mentors? They really should be involved in the selection process. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Ravenlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All, > > I'm very please to announce we are officially listed on the Google > Summer of Code page as a mentoring organization: :) > > htt

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-28 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
March 3rd is when they start accepting applications. The deadline is March 12th. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Ian C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well considering applications need to be in by when it starts which is > like march 3rd we don't have a lot of time... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [E-devel] emotion/xine memory leak

2008-02-27 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
If you search for python suppressions for valgrind, you should find some that will help make the log shorter and hopefully more useful to us. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Joost Albers > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [E-devel] emotion/xine memory leak

2008-02-27 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Running valgrind against it may point out where the leak is occurring, but it will also require some suppressions as it thinks Python leaks at times when it manages it's memory allocations. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i have no interest in trying to change their opinion. in the end i think they > see e as a wm - some bizarre corner-case wm that no one cares about anymore > as > everyone uses gnome or kde, and since

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Here is an example of an organizations Ideas page that might help get things rolling: http://www.x.org/wiki/SummerOfCodeIdeas On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some discussion on IRC: > >- Going with EFL might be better. As Nathan sai

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, given that we've been shot down every year so far, I think > the key question for us to address here is: How do we avoid getting > shot down again? > > Once we know we're eligible, I think there's more t

Re: [E-devel] Ewl menu style

2008-02-23 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Are you talking specifically about the menubar in the menubar test or in another case? The menubar test is not a good example for aesthetics, as it is intended to test as much menubar related functionality as possible. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am S

Re: [E-devel] Ewl and Edje

2008-02-15 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good questions.. Don't know. A buffer canvas would be nice to > have for several reasons, but as you mention it may not be the best > way to realize a canvas widget for other reasons.. it also depends on >

Re: [E-devel] Ewl and Edje

2008-02-15 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Umm... It still sems to me like you'd want some kind of canvas > widget to which one could add arbitrary evas objects to, directly or > indirectly (I believe that etk has something like that), in order to >

Re: [E-devel] Ewl and Edje

2008-02-15 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That seems to me like it might be a BIG problem for any > sufficiently flexible use of ewl and evas. :( > > Until a more generic solution presents itself, why not have > a separate Ewl_Evas lib, with

Re: [E-devel] Ewl and Edje

2008-02-14 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nathan wrote: > > > The answer is yes and no. You can certainly do this simply by > > mapping the theme for a widget to your Edje. The problem is that > > Is "mapping the theme for a widget to your

Re: [E-devel] Ewl and Edje

2008-02-14 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
The answer is yes and no. You can certainly do this simply by mapping the theme for a widget to your Edje. The problem is that any events will automatically have the source set as "EWL" instead of the clicked part. The problem is that we do dispatching to the widget inside of EWL, and w/o an API to

Re: [E-devel] [Xcb] knowing when the X server will send the reply (fwd)

2008-01-30 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Jan 30, 2008 7:03 AM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey > > here is a more detailed explanation of Jamey about the race condition that > can occur with xcb_poll_for_reply. You know those things better than me, > so you will be able to comment about that on the race in ecore in the

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH][RFC] signal/select race problem in ecore_main

2008-01-29 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Jan 29, 2008 11:15 AM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well, as we discussed on irc, according to Bart Massey, there might be a > race condition with xcb_poll_for_event in ecore_xcb, but I don't know if > it's the same kind of race or not. > > Vincent It's difficult to know because

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH][RFC] signal/select race problem in ecore_main

2008-01-29 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
I don't see why not, as it should be limited to a single package. Do you know of anything else that needs to handle this race condition between select and signals? On Jan 29, 2008 10:26 AM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Nathan Ingersoll w

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH][RFC] signal/select race problem in ecore_main

2008-01-29 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Jan 29, 2008 9:14 AM, Lars Munch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, I might have asked the question wrongly. My current patch already > calls pselect with an empty set of signals, so signals will only be > handled when pselect is called. As an alternative we could do: > > _ecore_main_select() >

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH][RFC] signal/select race problem in ecore_main

2008-01-29 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Jan 29, 2008 8:03 AM, Lars Munch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 01:16:24PM -0600, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > > I checked the man page for Mac OS X as well. Looks like pselect() > > comes from FreeBSD in that case. > > Ok, you got me convinced. At

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: www dresb

2008-01-26 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Typo on frequently. On Jan 26, 2008 6:23 AM, Enlightenment CVS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > +Frecuently updated tutorials and guides for both users and developers. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all cha

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH][RFC] signal/select race problem in ecore_main

2008-01-26 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
n 25, 2008 at 07:43:47AM -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > > On Jan 25, 2008 12:40 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:41 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" > > > > <[EMAI

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/ewl jethomas

2008-01-24 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
I think this should be moved to the theme rather than hardcoding it directly into the lib. On Jan 24, 2008 9:08 PM, Enlightenment CVS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Enlightenment CVS committal > > Author : jethomas > Project : e17 > Module : libs/ewl > > Dir : e17/libs/ewl/src/lib > > > Modifi

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH][RFC] signal/select race problem in ecore_main

2008-01-24 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Jan 24, 2008 7:18 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > now i think this is a bit more generic a solution - but it adds overhead. so > what about the pselect() method? anyone got input on that? Basically, pselect() is designed for exactly this situation. You block al

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