RE: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-23 Thread toman
> Original Message > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes > From: "Quentin Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, May 23, 2007 6:49 am > To: "Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group" > > On 5/22/07, Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-23 Thread Garl Grigsby
Mr O wrote: The first Raptor I bought lasted almost 5 minutes! My current one has been going for a few months. I only bought it to move my games mount point to. I don't trust my day to day data to any WD no matter what the warranty. I've got about 12 74GB Raptors that have been going 24x7 for ar

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-23 Thread Quentin Hartman
On 5/22/07, Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The first Raptor I bought lasted almost 5 minutes! My current one has been going for a few months. I only bought it to move my games mount point to. I don't trust my day to day data to any WD no matter what the warranty. And to counter-point that, o

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-22 Thread Mr O
The first Raptor I bought lasted almost 5 minutes! My current one has been going for a few months. I only bought it to move my games mount point to. I don't trust my day to day data to any WD no matter what the warranty. The BIGGEST thing you can do to prevent drive failure is BACKUP. Seriously,

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-22 Thread Quentin Hartman
On 5/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The second drive was a WD Scorpio 60G, I don't remember what the first one was. I don't know whether he or his kids misused it, that's certainly a possibility. FWIW, I've had a lot of failures with the consumer grade WD drives in recent

RE: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-22 Thread toman
> Original Message > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes > From: "Quentin Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, May 21, 2007 3:19 pm > To: "Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group" > > If it doesn't work in a known go

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-22 Thread Jim Darrough
I recently bought a new Seagate Vertical Recording technology 80g drive to replace my daughter's laptop drive. It is very very fast, and has a 5 year warranty from Seagate. I suspect that it will last a while. The old drive, which my son grabbed (hence my need for another) was a Hitachi and had

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-22 Thread roger
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 18:39 -0700, Mr O wrote: > First of all, nearly everyone used IBM drives at one point. When > you could produce the volume needed at a price you couldn't > argue with why not buy? My pile of dead or nearly dead laptop > drives is 80% IBM/Hitachi. 19% Fujitsu & Toshiba. Maybe a

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-21 Thread Quentin Hartman
On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a shame that can be said at all about hard-drives these days. When I left HMT they were actually cranking out decent product (monstly ZIP blanks). It makes me think most of the hardware manufacturers have eliminated their test and QC

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-21 Thread erock23175
with implements to increase production capacity. Numbers, its all numbersuntil "YOUR" hard-drive dies. -E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: euglug@euglug.org Sent: Mon, 21 May 2007 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-21 Thread Mr O
First of all, nearly everyone used IBM drives at one point. When you could produce the volume needed at a price you couldn't argue with why not buy? My pile of dead or nearly dead laptop drives is 80% IBM/Hitachi. 19% Fujitsu & Toshiba. Maybe a couple Seagate and not more than one or two WD or Sams

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-21 Thread roger
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 10:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Opinions sought: > > I have a friend with a Dell laptop that's old enough to be out of > warranty, but not too old to be useful. > The 20G hard drive in it failed, so I replaced it for him with a 60G > drive a few months ago. > Now t

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-21 Thread Garl Grigsby
Quentin Hartman wrote: If it doesn't work in a known good USB enclosure, it's almost definitely two bad drives. Id' definitely RMA it if it's under warranty. The question then becomes, why did they fail? Maybe you just got unlucky, that's certainly not unheard of. Maybe your friend mistreats h

Re: [Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-21 Thread Quentin Hartman
On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Opinions sought: I have a friend with a Dell laptop that's old enough to be out of warranty, but not too old to be useful. The 20G hard drive in it failed, so I replaced it for him with a 60G drive a few months ago. Now that has failed

[Eug-lug] More Laptop Woes

2007-05-21 Thread toman
Opinions sought: I have a friend with a Dell laptop that's old enough to be out of warranty, but not too old to be useful. The 20G hard drive in it failed, so I replaced it for him with a 60G drive a few months ago. Now that has failed as well, and even if I mount it in a USB enclosure, it still